Wow! Lapis, I am not sure what to make of all that, are you saying the Metabolic Typing Diet as defined by woolcott is a basterdized version of kelly's and it is designed to make you fail! I am am not at all suprized that the "establishment" is possible of doing what Kelly claims. I don't, I quess understand enough to determine what it is exactly that is deceptive in these theories. The diet itself seems to simply expound on the Banting, Atkins low carb diets with certain variations. And even more emphasise on the individual! You have kind of blind sided me for the moment and I am not quite sure how to respond to this diatribe by Kelly and would appreciate any more insight you may have on this. Until then I will be searching for answers to this puzzle and hope to illuminate myself and others on this problem! Grog