Re: you dont listen to moses. you dont listen to jesus.

well, we are all over the road here, but i will do my best.

first off, there are two descriptions of creation given in genesis. some say the second description is a literary device and is simply a reiteration of the first. i contend that this is not so. they are distinctly different, as any bible debunker will tell you in one of their attempts to discredit the bible through showing contradiction. the first species was created after the plants and animals were created. they were created male and female at the same time. they were told to be fruitful and multiply and subdue the earth.

none of these things are so with the second species. adam was created by himself, formed from the ground. then more animals were created(the socalled rise of the mammals in the archeological record) and he gave names to them. THEN did god create eve, his femmale, not from the ground, but from out of adams own flesh. they were not told to be fruitful. they were not told to eat herbs, only fruit and seeds from trees. and they were not told to subdue the earth, but simply not to eat the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.

both species were created in the image of god, which means both had language, among other things. have you ever heard a snake talk? it was one of the first species that had the conversation with eve and deceived her into eating the fruit. it was the first species that was cursed to crawl on its belly the rest of its days and eat of unworked ground. they lived in caves and were hunters and gatherers. they were quite active sexually, and violent as well. this was as god had told them, much like the animals they were created with.

it was the first species that gave adam and eve the idea of sex, thus they recognized their own nakedness. it was the first species that gave cain the idea of killing, thus he murdered his own brother. it was the first species that cain was afraid of after being shunned and exiled. later, it was the sons of god(adams seed) who took note of the first species again in order to take their women for wives. these hybrids produced giants and were known of far and wide, and feared.

by the time of the flood, the whole human race, both species, had been corrupted to the point that they were no longer any of them doing as god had said. noah was selected to survive the flood because of his genetics. they had not been corrupted by the first species, so noah was chosen to carry on the secand species and the first species was wiped out in the flood. we are all decendents of noah, so the genes of the first species are cleansed from us.

then, after the flood, noah, representing the second species, was told to be fruitful and multiply. a new age had begun on the earth, complete with a new heaven as well that could produce a rainbow and show many more stars than before, if any were visible at all before the flood.