Re: you dont listen to moses. you dont listen to jesus.

the late fred hoyles book "ice" was published in 1981. a lot has happened since then.

i never said neandertal wasnt human. neandertal was very definitely human and created in the image of god. but he definitely was different. he was created male and female together, both from the dust of the ground. the second species, adam, was created male, or perhaps even both together, and then his female was later taken out of him and then presented back to him when he awoke from his sleep. eve was a clone of adam. the first species was told to subdue and fill the earth. adam was not told that. noah was told that because the first species was gone. when cain was sent wandering the earth, he was afraid someone would find him and kill him. who? and where did he ever get the notion of killing to begin with? from the first species, thts where. those were the men he was afraid of.

in fact, you are simply resisting what i am saying without ever really giving it any consideration. look at the facts.

there are two seperate stories of creation in genesis. there are two genetically different species of man - different enough to be ruled out as being related to one another but not so different as to be reproductively compatable. the two species interbred in genesis and the hybrids were giants. this also fits the facts. look up ligers. noah survived the flood. why was he chosen? he was perfect in his generations - he had the genetics descended straight from the father of the second species - adam. therefor, the flood destroyed all of the first species, leaving only the second species through noah to repopulate the earth.

think this thing out instead of having a dead author do your thinking for you. did you read the neandertal article i linked?

also, if you want to argue dna evidence, then you better make a sign and write your congressman because they are deciding mens fate on the basis of it every day in this country. if you think it is bogus, you have a duty to protest, dont you? you could also fall victim, couldnt you? i personally think dna evidence is one thing that they do right, if you can trust the people doing the testing(another thing altogether).

and as far as the matrix is concerned, you cant see it until you leave it.

thanks for this discussion. too bad it is buried like this. but then these things arent for everyone, i suppose.