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Iceman1981
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Hi,
I'm 28 and I have a serious Acne problem that doesn't seem to want to go away. Here is a a breif history of my diet and lifestyle:
I never had Acne while I was a teenager (ate the typical american diet). I developed mild Acne at the age of 21. Ever since I started getting a zit here and there. I changed my diet around big time. I cut out junk food, no soda, no sugar, no gluten, no dairy and what ever foods I had a allergic reaction to. I drank only water, vegetable juice and herbal teas. I exercised regularly and ate tons of vegetables and some fruit every day with lean meat (chicken, turkey). This really helped my acne and it went away. I have 1 to 2 large, well formed bowel movements per day. I would only get a pimple if I really ate something bad.
Last october 2009 I decided to take a liver supplement containg:
- Milk Thistle Extract (Silybum marianum) (Fruit and Seeds) (Standardized to 80% Silymarin Flavonoids) 300 mg
- Dandelion Root Extract (Taraxacum officinale) (4:1) 100 mg
- Artichoke Extract (Cynara scolymus) (Leaf) (Standardized to 2% Cynarin) 50 mg
I read so many reviews on milk thistle and how it helps the liver and people with acne. So, I bought a bottle and used the liver supplement (above) 3 capsules a day for two weeks in october 2009. I started breaking out big time. So, I stopped taking it. I developed severe acne with red cysts and white heads. I would get these every week. It is now may 2010 and I still have these cysts that appear every week and I am really really depressed. It has left a ton of marks on my face. I never had this problem before and I don't know what to do. Do you think my liver is trying to get rid of the extra toxins and hormones by expelling them into my colon and my colon can't eliminate them quick enough, so the excess toxins is coming out of my skin?
I'm taking the following supplements. (I took these before last october and never broke out):
Multi Vitamin
Vitamin D3
Probiotic
Fish Oil Liquid
Coconut Oil
Saw Palmetto
Beta Carotene
Calcium & Magnesium
Chromium
Zinc
Digestive Enzymes
Vitamin E
B Complex
Psyllium & Bentonite shake twice a day for the past 2 weeks
I used to wash my face with Proactiv for the last 8 years and it has helped a lot. Now the Proactiv has stopped working. No matter what I put on my face, it doesn't seem to help. I'm using manuka honey, coconut oil, aloe vera and I'm exfoliating.
I've narrowed this down to these things:
Colon/Intestines/Leaky Gut and Liver. I never had hormonal acne before, so I don't think it's that. It's probably the toxins in my bowels that is getting into my blood causing me to break out. I also want to go on a serries of colonic hydrotherapy to get all of the mucoid plaque out.
I'm sorry for the long post, but if there is anyone out there that can help me or put me in the right direction, I would appreciate it very much. It's very stressful to go from smooth clear skin to a face that has acne and marks.
Thank You !!!
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- Re: Severe Acne After Taking Milk Th... MENDOMAID
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This is a reply to # 1,626,681I had a few thoughts while reading about your Acne problem.
Increasing the amount of zinc you take may help.
Hulda Clark found several parasites in Acne and advised using parasite herbs.
Go on a gluten free diet for at least a month - all sorts of problems clear up in some people and leaky gut syndrome suggests you have a problem with gluten. The Specific Carbohydrate Diet is a good gf food guide.
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- Re: Severe Acne After Taking Milk Th... Iceman1981
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This is a reply to # 1,626,708Hi MENDOMAID,
Thanks for the reply. I'm taking 100mg of Zinc (gluconate) per day. I've also been on a gluten free diet for about 8 years. I plan on doing a parasite cleanse after the bowel cleanse. I'm pretty sure it's a leaky gut that is causing my breakouts. I'll take some supplements to heal the gut and see how it goes. Thanks again.
- Re: Severe Acne After Taking Milk Th... Iceman1981
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- Re: Severe Acne After Taking Milk Th... SeattleTom
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MoreThis is a reply to # 1,626,681Hi Iceman - You've done some excellent work on your health--good for you.
I had an experience similar to yours years ago. I read a lot of good things about milk thistle and dandelion, and started taking them 14 years ago. My liver started detoxing rapidly and I had numerous healing crises for many years. I learned a few years ago that detoxing the liver causes it to dump lots of old toxins into the colon and bloodstream. For this reason, it's better to cleanse the colon and kidneys before one starts cleansing the liver. I had to learn this the hard way.
In your case, your liver is probably releasing old toxins faster than your colon and kidneys can eliminate them. This is why it's releasing them through your skin, causing the severe acne. I think you'd be wise to continue the colon cleansing you're already doing, do some colonics, and do some kidney cleansing. You might to read "The Detox Book" by Bruce Fife, ND, to learn more about this. Also, http://www.drlwilson.com
and http://www.arltma.com
have good articles on detox and related issues.
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Hi SeattleTom ,
Wow, I thought I was the only one who had this milk thistle problem. You're right about the liver detoxing very rapidly and the colon couldn't eliminate as fast as the liver was detoxing. I'll do as you say and cleanse the bowels and kidney before I do a liver flush. It makes sense. Thanks for the links.
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Re: Severe Acne After Taking Milk Th... valerie_cct
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This is a reply to # 1,626,681I haven't heard of Milk Thistle causing Acne before, but I do think it might be helpful to have a series of colonics to get an assessment of you the condition of your large intestine.
I'm a practitioner of colon hydrotherapy, and you can tell a great deal about the clients overall health from observing the waste matter the client releases through the outflow observation tube.
If you haven't had colonics before, here's a picture of a modern closed system that shows the lighted outflow viewing tube.
- Re: Severe Acne After Taking Milk Th... Iceman1981
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This is a reply to # 1,626,933Hi valerie_cct,
Thanks for the picture. I had a few questions about colon hydro therapy. Since I know I have leaky gut, would the colon hydortherapy push the toxins back into my bloodstream. Should I heal my leaky gut before starting colon hydrotherapy? Or should I do both?
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Hi Iceman1981, you can do both together. Before having a colonic, discuss your leaky gut with the therapist and be sure you feel comfortable with her before proceeding.
A colonic can achieve successful results without using too much pressure, as can carefully administered home cleansing enemas. The important thing is not to force too much water into the colon under excessive pressure.
A colon hydrotherapy session consists of an alternating series of inflow and release cycles. During inflow the therapist can control the pressure of the water and at first introduce a small amount into your colon. A gauge on the machine shows the pressure your colon is experiencing and as you begin to feel full the therapist can see it.
That, along with your feedback, allows the system to be switched to the release cycle and water and waste matter to flow out through the observation tube to the plumbing system. Normally the therapist will gently massage your abdominal area along the outline of the colon to assist in breaking up pockets of impacted waste to enhance the effectiveness of your release.
Then the cycle is repeated, this time with a little bit more water, but never to the point where you experience excessive fullness or discomfort.
If you take enemas at home, do them while lying down and don't hang the bag more than 18 inches above your hips. This will insure that there is not too much pressure. If you experience excessively uncomfortable fullness, stop the flow and wait a few minutes before proceeding. If it's still too uncomfortable, end this session and expel on the toilet. If you feel up to it afterwards you can refill the bag and try again, or let it wait until another day.
You can find additional information about colon hydrotherapy and home enemas on my web page at http://valerie_cct.tripod.com/
Best wishes for your natural health, it appears you are doing all the right things!
Valerie
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This is a reply to # 1,628,304Hi Valerie,
I just booked my first sesion of colonics for this thursday coming up. The clinic is 5 mins away from my house. I put money down for 6 sessions and got the 7th session free. I hope this can break up any mucoid plaque that I have because I really need to clear up my Acne and get all of the toxins out of me. Have you seen any positive results dealing with Acne after a session of colonics?
Thanks.- Re: Severe Acne After Taking Milk Th... valerie_cct
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This is a reply to # 1,629,663Hi iceman1981, you are indeed fortunate to have a facility so nearby where you can go for colonics. I hope you find them to be helpful and I expect that you will, but the results will most likely not be immediately obvious.
You ask if I save seen positive results in treating Acne with colonics, and the answer is emphatically yes! It's not just colonics, but a healthy lifestyle in general,including colon cleansing, a healthy diet, aerobic physical activity, adequate sleep and cleansing your skin thoroughly at bedtime, especially if you have been wearing makeup during the day.
I get the impression from your posts in this thread that you are already leading a healthy lifestyle, so adding colonics should provide an additional benefit that hopefully will help overcome your Acne problems. But don't get discouraged if you don't see major improvements for a few months.
I hope you avoid the temptation to resort to prescription drugs which promise a quick cure. The cure is likely to be worse than the condition you hoped to alleviate.
And don't ever let yourself become constipated. My personal rule of thumb is not to allow myself to go more than 48 hours without a natural bowel movement, and if that happens I take a gentle cleansing enema before going to bed that night. I also have at least one maintenance colonic every month whether I think I need it or not.
I wish you the best of success in resolving this frustrating condition that causes so many people such anxiety and distress.
Sincerely, ValerieAdvertisement
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This is a reply to # 1,629,663Hi again, if you had your colonic session on Thursday how did it go? How did you feel afterwards?
Hopefully you found it to be successful. When is your next one scheduled?
Wishing you the best of success in getting your colon and Acne cleared,
Valerie- Re: Severe Acne After Taking Milk Th... Iceman1981
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This is a reply to # 1,633,064Hi Valerie,
I came down with the cold on tuesday and I couldn't make it on thursday. but I did reschedule to go on next staurday. I'll update you.
Thanks.
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- Re: Severe Acne After Taking Milk Th... Ask Christian
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This is a reply to # 1,626,681Hey Iceman,
Great stuff and unbelievable job of taking care of your health! Thats how I got into health and holistic medicine was the clearing of my skin through natural methods.
I haven't heard of milk thistle causing Acne before. However it seems to be exactly what you said with your body not being able to detoxify and eliminate the new load of toxins coming out of your liver your skin has to jump in and "save them" or you rather or you'd get very sick. Acne in most cases is actually really a good sign even though it sucks it means the body is getting that crap out of you instead of succumbing to the toxic overload.
Anyways I would do exactly what you said. Get some colonics if you can afford them and do a kidney cleanse. Then I would do a few Liver Flushes at least 6 and see how your skin is doing. Also definately afford trouble foods that can cause inflammation to help heal that leaky gut and make sure your getting enough fermented vegetables/probiotics. Fermented Veggies are the BEST Acne FIGHTING FOOD IVE EVER FOUND. It is because they assist in so many of the bodies functions related to acne development.
On your skin...I guess proactiv worked for you but it never worked for me. I actually wash my face with clay. Leave it on to dry for like 30 min and take a shower. Afterwards I put on a formula I made based in aloe mixed with lavender tea tree and neem oils. I also put hydrogen peroxide on newly popped pimples because it dissenfects and helps heal the wound faster.
Hope this might help. If you need anymore feel free to Personal Message me. Good luck and let me know how it goes! I hated acne and want to help anyone that is frustrated by it!- Re: Severe Acne After Taking Milk Th... Iceman1981
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Hi Ask Christian,
Thanks for the info. Especially on the fermented vegggies. I know of home made Sauerkraut being good for digestion. Any other veggies I can ferment at home that will help with my acne? I started taking L-Glutamine and a product called Sea Cure to help rebuild the lining of my gut. I'm also taking aloe vera and coconut oil to sooth the gut.
Since you said you "hated" acne, I'm guessing you don't have Acne anymore?
Thanks.- Re: Severe Acne After Taking Milk Th... Ask Christian
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This is a reply to # 1,627,262Other than the occasional pimple that pops up. My Acne is gone!
There are a bunch of recipes on youtube of people making them which are great.
My Favorite is Kimchi: google the ingredients/youtube
Coconut Kefir Sodas made from coconut powder/grains are great but they can be a little expensive. Body Ecology's founder, Donna Gates LOVES fermented Young Coconut Kefir and touts its benefits. Actually speaking of which check out her site: http://www.bodyecology.com
great resource for the most strict/ but most healing diet I've ever come across and I've read them all lol
PS the ferm veggies are VERY different tasting at first than anything you have ever had because the microflora eat up all the sugars so they are almost vinegary. TIP: add some granny smith apple to help keep the taste a little sweeter. The granny smith is the most sour of apples and therefore the little Sugar it has the microflora gobble up so it won't aggregate Candida which is 90% of the reason you have acne.
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This is a reply to # 1,626,681I just found out that Milk Thistle has latex on it.Very people is sensitive or intolerant to it. As I'm doing some research as what to eat or not ,I did this finding.
Today I had a bad encounter with just mandarine juice. The worst have been kelp (the latex on it).- Re: Severe Acne After Taking Milk Th... CheveTim
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This is a reply to # 1,626,681All the things you are doing sound great. What really helped my cystic Acne go away was by doing liver flushes. I have done 2 Liver Flushes and 2 colonics. I will be doing a 3 colonic soon. Doing a parasite cleansing before the Liver Flush is important and the colonics help get them out of the body as well by detaching them from the intestinal walls. The program that I followed to get rid of most of my Acne is Acne No More by Mike Walden. Now I only have a few small pimples but NOTHING like before. I am currently taking Panthothen which is a natural acne solution that aims at reducing sebum production. I am also taking several other supplements and eating very healthy- everything organic and as allergen friendly as possible. If you are interested in doing a Liver Flush I will give you the information of how to do it.
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