If you are expecting Logol's or Iodoral to give your body the necessary Iodine part of the formula (iodine/potassium iodide), then you probably don't want to mix the Lugol's solution in orange juice or take vitamin C at the same time as any iodine.
Chem lab experiments show that:
"The vitamin C chemical gives an electron to each of the Iodine atoms to form the Iodide ion with a negative charge. This then shows that the Iodide ion is colorless in water solution even in the presence of the starch. This reaction changes the form of the Iodine element to the Iodide ions."
Did you get that? The iodine becomes a new form, iodide. You loose the benefit of iodine properties. That's ok if you only need the iodide.
The rest of the experiment will turn the iodide back to iodine; but you probably won't want or need to do this. Certainly not for consumption.
"Bleach, which contains sodium hypochlorite, removes the electrons from the iodide ion to reform the iodine element and shows the colors of the iodine element again, even if quite briefly. In the meantime, the Vitamin C is still reactive in giving electrons back to the iodine to make the colorless iodide ions.
The bleach removes the electrons from the ion form of iodine and the vitamin C gives electrons to the element form of the iodine."
The lab test certainly is not using orange juice; but why take the chance?
So, it is good, if you want to kill the taste of iodine by mixing it with vitamin C. However, remember the experiment above; and:
"The iodine is reduced to iodide, and the vitamin C (ascorbic acid) is
oxidized to dehydroascorbic acid. Iodide is an essential mineral, and
dehydroascorbic acid is just as effective as a vitamin as the ascorbic acid
Richard E. Barrans Jr., Ph.D.
Director of Academic Programs
PG Research Foundation, Darien, Illinois"
It depends on the type of orange juice you are using. Fresh OJ would provide plenty of Vit. C to interact with the Lugols. Frozen OJ becomes questionable as to how much Vit. C is really in it. First, the OJ in frozen OJ has been heat processed to prevent spoilage. Heat destroys Vit. C. Then, the longer it is frozen, what Vit. C is in it gradually declines, and again, the same for when you mix it with water. The longer that pitcher of OJ sits in your refrig, the less Vit. C it has in it. They can put on the label the amount of Vit. C that was in the original fresh OJ (prior to processing), but what you really get at the end of the consumer line is another story. Since I dilute my OJ twice as much as the can calls for, the Lugols darkens it a tad. That tells me there isn't enough Vit. C. in it to knock out all the iodine. I also use other juices purchased from the health food store and have noticed the the Lugols changes/darkens that juice as well.
there is a principle that i preach constantly which is teach your body to like what is good for it. all the processed food has taken this ability from us. so if i KNOW something is good for me, i make myself taste it and imprint my brain that this is good. i take a lot of Lugols in water for this reason. one can do a lot in a little water and chase it with more water or take a little Lugols in a lot of water and chug-a-lug. one could even spike a quart of water a day and sip it throughout the day.
If vitamin C (ascorbic acid) is what is giving the Iodine molecule the negatively charged ion, then isn't it the acid part of the vit. C molecule that is doing this? And if so, then can't stomach acid, or any acid for that matter, do the same thing? So don't ALL forms of Iodine ingested become Iodide ions once they hit the stomach?
I am unable to find the list of body parts that either Iodine or Iodide help. I remember that Iodine is found to be stored in breast tissue and that it is the Iodine that is the major contributor to the alleviation of FBD. This is why I posted the original statement. Women especially should think about taking vitamin C apart from taking iodine. I kind of remember that the prostate is helped by iodide. Anyway, if iodine is found in the breast tissue and the thyroid, then iodine must survive any conversion by digestive acids.
Actually, what happens is the organs which require Iodine undergo a process called "organification," where enzymes make Iodine from iodide. The breast tissue is one of these organs which do this. Iodine does not occur anywhere in nature in any food source. All ingestible forms of iodine are in the Iodide form. The enzyme which accomplishes this organification in the thyroid gland is called thyroid peroxidase and the one in breast tissue is lactoperoxidase.
Thank you. This means I could just get potassium iodide, when I run out of Lugol's. I don't think that will be controlled by the DEA. I don't have breasts anyway. All other organs will benefit from both forms anyway. Right?
I wonder why Drs. Abraham, Brownstien, and Fleshas thought they had to use elemental Iodine in their tests. SSKI should have worked. Right?