are the scriptures true? 
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that is the real question here, right?
well, there is only one way to find out if the scriptures are true or not, if there is a god or not, if the god of the bible created the universe and everything in it - ask him.- Re: are the scriptures true? MrCooties
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>>>>>"are the scriptures true?"<<<<<
What do you mean by "true"? "The word of god"? Which of man's versions of god's word (the scriptures) are true, and which of the others are false?
>>>>>>"ask him."<<<<<<<<
I have and got no response.
What did he say to you exactly?
Why did he tell you and not me?
Why does he give followers different answers?- Re: are the scriptures true? trapper/kcmo
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MoreThis is a reply to # 274,549god cannot interfere with free will which inherently means his existence cannot be proved. that would rather bias things for us, dont you think?
the bible explains your questions and provides the answers you seek. the things in your way are twofold. first is believing what others say about the bible and god - most are liars and the rest are deceived. second is that god looks on the heart so he already knows who he is dealing with - it is you who has to find out about him.
so how do you get gods attention? do something completely out of the ordinary... actually obey him!
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congratulations. you have yet another excuse for never changing. how does perfection feel? you must be able to help many people with your awsome powers. you should share some of your great conquests with us, should you deem us worthy.- Re: are the scriptures true?which sc... Uncas
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This is a reply to # 274,554ouch ! oh trapper are you upset? lol! ...awesome power... perfection... conquest...
seems these describe issues you could think about dealing with...this kind of granduer is generally delusional! Did it never accur to you that your mystical beliefs are just metaphores for lifes experiences! And that most if not all religious stories are just that, how could it be otherwise, does ones myths supercede another mans! Whose the judge? The heavy hand of war?
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This is a reply to # 274,555Maybe, He's a blonde chick. Go for it Bro!
You won't burn forever.
Malachi 4:3 And ye shall tread down the wicked; for they shall be ashes under the soles of your feet in the day that I shall do this' saith the Lord of hosts.
It will be over in no time for 5hit heads like you.
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Since you follow an updated version of the bible and reject earlier versions, how long will it be until your current version is outdated and the "real truth" (the future version) is released?
Doesn't this make any current version invalid, since a newer version is just a matter of time before release, a newer version which refutes the old?
Do you not think there is one god, one reality? Or does time change god?
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This is a reply to # 274,559Why do I care? This is a debate forum.
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This is a reply to # 274,585You're thinking too hard, or avoiding a response.
I'll spell it out for you:
Which version of the bible do you believe is the truth?
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This is a reply to # 274,587to me, there is only one version - the original in the original language. everything else is a copy(which is all we have available and which is obviously prone to some error) or is a translation( which means it has gone through the sieve of the mind of the one who is doing the translating). the biggest jokes on earth are the king james only crowd. does anyone in their right mind think for one second that anything in that translation went contrary to what the king thought or wanted? now way jose.
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This is a reply to # 274,551>>>>>>"god cannot interfere with free will "<<<<<<<<<
So you are more powerful than your god?
>>>>>>>>>>>"so how do you get gods attention? do something completely out of the ordinary... actually obey him!"<<<<<<<<<<<
I do the same good deeds every day that I am sure you do, I just don't need a bible to tell me not to rape and steal. So, you and I are likely the same (except you need a book to tell you not to rape and steal). You are favored because god gave you belief in him and not me. Something I can't even control - either someone believes or they don't. Can't control that.
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- Re: are the scriptures true? beej
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This is a reply to # 274,560>>>>>>"god cannot interfere with free will "<<<<<<<<<
So you are more powerful than your god?
>>>>>>>>>>>"so how do you get gods attention? do something completely out of the ordinary... actually obey him!"<<<<<<<<<<<
I do the same good deeds every day that I am sure you do, I just don't need a bible to tell me not to rape and steal. So, you and I are likely the same (except you need a book to tell you not to rape and steal). You are favored because god gave you belief in him and not me. Something I can't even control - either someone believes or they don't. Can't control that.
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>>>>>>>>"You don't keep the ten commandments"<<<<<<
...but you do? How about some real world comparisons? Wanna compare good deeds for the week? Month? Year? Lifetime? Or does the real world not matter when we are talking belief systems?
You seem to believe it's not what you DO, it's what you THINK.- Re: are the scriptures true? beej
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This is a reply to # 274,564I have broken the law many times.
1John 1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.- Re: are the scriptures true? nick5
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This is a reply to # 274,565"I have broken the law many times"
You are weak because you (try to) follow the law of an evil fictional character instead of your own.
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