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to begin, i would like to say that i got into an emotional eating pattern around 6 months ago in August 2015 and it continued till January 12th 2015, and then i developed following symptoms on 12th.
1) blood in stools in 2 bowel movements on that day and it hasn't after that. (4 days have passed.), it was there earlier also 1-2 weeks ago on 2 instances.
2) abdomen lower left side ache (colon?) - it increases sometimes to bearable but quite some pain and sometimes gets fine.
3) little pain around rectum. - not much.
I am 28 year old, 170 cm and 108 lbs and maybe losing further which should be obvious if my colon is overworking? i have been trying to go raw vegan but failed terribly at it with this emotional eating, but that means i have also had lots of fruits and vegetables, also other good things like aloe vera juice, coconut water etc at these times.
my doctor thinks it's IBS, but i readings from curezone and internet and knowing my eating pattern from last six months, think it is diverticulitis, my doctor says it because of my age, i haven't been diagnosed with it, i don't want to go through CT scan or endoscopy, if i touch at the colon around that area, it seems little swollen as well.
Anyways, i read few things on internet which helped me but i am not sure i should continue with:
1) applying hot pack on abdomen.
2) mild bouncing and jumping exercises at home.
3) have been mostly on liquid diet except some fruits twice and a dessert (not very sweet) twice at different times.
4) had apple juice for constipation, that's why maybe having watery stools and quite often, wouldn't call it diarrhea as it is not much.
5) keeping myself hydrated by drinking more than usual.
6) will go on Water Fast for 1-3 days depending on my health and then on juice fast for some days.
7) i already had a parasite cleans with neem oil (15 drops, i have taken in twice in last week and after that rejuvelac for good flora)
8) i also massaged the area, but that increases pain, so don't plan to do it till i am better.
I also strongly feel after facing this, i am done with overeating and i can start raw vegan or 80-20 diet after and while recovering from it.
Please suggest further course of actions.
I have some questions that i would like to ask
1) should i apply heated packs on pain area or not? as a friend said that heated pack shouldn't be applied if there has been a bleeding (in stools, but that was 4 days ago), i also read somewhere that for mild attack, you should apply heated packs.
1) should i go for aloe vera or wheat grass juice or rejuvelac fast instead of water fast? since these work on the colon.
2) doctor recommended some Antibiotics for infection, on what basis i should decide whether i really need them, if pain increases?
3) should i continue the exercise, obviously when i am not feeling the pain or should i wait to get better?
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This is a reply to # 2,297,652Hey!
Sounds like you need a good plan.
There are few things I can think of.
1. Natural oils (coconut is great; or OO) on the problematic spot - will decrease discomfort an help healing.
2. 80/20 diet may be not the best for you at this point, since good fat in food in your case will promote healing and free-passage through the colon and rectum. There is a Youtube vid w Dr Fuhrman on 80/10/10 diet
3. I'd have at least 2 tbsp of ground flax seed mixed with juices or salads or raw/or cooked soups
4. You may have just a simple (but serious) rectal tear (happens often in young ppl esp women) +/- increased tonus of the sphincters.
5. Less likely: internal hemorrhoides
the last two can be visualized with/w/o/ local anesthesia by a abdominal surgeon or anyone who has anoscope/rectoscope they will examine just the few 10/15 cm at the end of your digestive tract.
Diverticuli are not so frequent in young age.
If you start raw vegan take extra care to avoid or chop/chew/discard at least in the beginning rough fiber as from bell peppers/other peppers sometimes apple peel (chewing chopping should be enough for these) and and also for ex. from pineapple outer layer, which is best to discard including the spots with the seeds.
Ease elimination and soften the stool with things like avocado citrus fiber, apples are good too. If you can do 1 week fast at some point it will let your colon rest even better. Take extra care to clean up beforehand - important in cases like yours.
Best,
DL
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This is a reply to # 2,297,652DL gave a great advice. I just wanted to answer your questions.
I have some questions that i would like to ask
1) should i apply heated packs on pain area or not? as a friend said that heated pack shouldn't be applied if there has been a bleeding (in stools, but that was 4 days ago), i also read somewhere that for mild attack, you should apply heated packs.
Yes, heat packs are fine. You can also apply castor oil twice a day on your abdomen and apply heat. Castor oil taken orally will help, too. One tablespoon in warm black tea first thing in the morning. It will give you diahrea. Blood if red in color is from small tears in the rectum/anus, no big deal, but black color blood means internal bleeding. If it was red then you need good fiber and probiotics. If Castor oil is not helpful, take Trifala Churna every night before going to bed.
1) should i go for aloe vera or wheat grass juice or rejuvelac fast instead of water fast? since these work on the colon.
Yes, you can continue to eat these foods, but DO NOT fast with only these foods, you will feel worse.
2) doctor recommended some antibiotics for infection, on what basis i should decide whether i really need them, if pain increases?
No antibiotics, it will just give you other health issues that you do not have, you can use Colloidal Silver, which you can start today, one tablespoon twice a day, it will not harm you. Inculde good probiotics in your meals, such as Kimchi, Sauerkraut, yogurt and probiotic capsules. I alternate these probiotics to get all different strands.
3) should i continue the exercise, obviously when i am not feeling the pain or should i wait to get better?
Yes exercise is fine without too much exertion. Walking and swimming are best, Yoga is fine too.
Feel better.
Archus
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This is a reply to # 2,297,711Thanks Desert Li and Archus for quick response. I appreciate you two always being there for the support.
DL,
1. would apply the coconut oil.
2. 80/10/10 seems like a good idea, can't find the link though, let me know if you have the link, would read about it further.
3. i do have flax seed, would ground them and add them in soups.
4. when i feel better i would see if i can get the examination done, i do have swelling just under the rib cage on left side, quite noticeable with touch not in the looks, also feel quite some back ache today.
5. i also think so, but yes could be possible.
you mean first i should take cleansing diet like apples etc and then go on fast? i am on Water Fast today and plan to do it for 2 more days and then juice for few more days as needed and then i was thinking of starting 80-20 (now 80-10-10) diet.
Let me know what you think?
Archus,
1. thanks for clarification, i would apply heat packs, i already have triphala churna, till few days ago, i had been taking it in morning and night, i was trying to follow a non invasive colon cleansing program with triphala and psyllium husks (i was not needing it much as with it i was feeling little constipated), so i would take triphala just once at night, let me know if you think i should go for castor oil first.
2. fine, i won't fast on these, i also felt that maybe it can be too aggressive.
3. Colloidal Silver is quite expensive here, i do have neem oil which is antiseptic, antifungal, antipyretic and antihistamine, so i feel it should work. I take rejuvelac as a probiotic, maybe i can make it with different grains to have different strands, currently i just make it with amaranth.
4. fine, i'll do some yoga and slow dance.
Archus and DL,
I am already feeling better with your responses, it's winter here in india, one just have to keep oneself warm, what do you think of cayenne pepper powder, should i include it in my diet for the heat or should i keep away from this spice, i have read some good things about it.
would go and sip on some hot water tea for now.
Peace
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This is a reply to # 2,297,818IAmThat,
This is the link-caution for low fat diet (from which I believe, after re-feeding, should still abstain from):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x38WyAVTvYk
This is the 80-10-10 concept; I believe it is reasonable for now to aim as Fuhrman above talks for 70-10-20 or 60-10-30, where the last number is calories from fat, the smallest - protein.
Now 80-10-10 (I don't recommend it still for you)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y61pvWxHBUQ
It is OK if you are already into the short fast. I meant, given your history, it will be easier on you to first clean your colon and then do a longer fast, if you decide for a longer one. Short fasts are not so critical in terms of cleaning the colon. Still may promote better function if you do it right.
The swelling under your left rib cage may be just stool stuck in the natural bent of the colon between the horizontal and descending part. Back aches is often experienced during fast and is not necessarily related to digestive health.
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This is a reply to # 2,297,832DL
Thanks for the links. i went through them.
i would listen to my body and give it reasonable amount of fat as i feel the need to be, i would prefer it to be initially in terms of cold processed healthy oils, as nuts and seeds could be hard to digest initially with this phase and then definitely would like to add more nuts and seeds.
i can definitely take seeds powder, fenugreek and flax as you suggested being primary.
yeah i would clean my colon and would do intermittent fasts and then when situations are right would go for longer fast.
if the swelling is as you mentioned, then triphala churna and hot water tea should really help, let's see.- Re: Diverticulitis attack after mont... IAmThat
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This is a reply to # 2,297,838I felt that i must update you and Archus about my current condition.
DL you were right about the swelling, about after 24 hours fast i took castor oil, it didn't cause the diarrhea, but it did cause the bowel movement, and stools did have some blood in it, but only the red one and not any black marks on it.
and after that pain became much easier, swelling is almost gone, and after 4 hours i broke my fasts with few apples, i feel body is not ready to fast longer under given circumstances, given i need to go to work from tomorrow.
and i am losing weight again and i don't want people to be commenting on why are you fasting etc?, so i would like to avoid it on weekdays, weekends are mine though, would keep short fasts on weekends and rest of the time, plan to follow the diet according to what we have discussed.
would keep updating the thread.
and again i would thank you two for your responses, it really saved me some anxiety about my health and relieved me from the pain in time.
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This is a reply to # 2,297,914Hello All/Archus and DL
I wanted to share that, i am doing fine with thriphala powder, rejuvelac and fruits and salads, and one time cooked veggies with some oil in it, for fat, so it would be around 60-10-30 diet.
but i also wanted to say that though i am not eating like crazies, i do have cravings for Sugar and tendency to eat it after the meal and have to control it.
i don't know what could be the reason?
and also it seems that food doesn't stay in the stomach, i get hungry after few hours again, though i eat considerable amount of salad or fruits at a time till i am full, and with these cravings i do give in to something liking to my craving but then i need to stop and i do stop much earlier than i was doing earlier, but this tendency is irritating.
i think this craving has physiological source while if i keep eating then it is emotional, though emotional is better and i can stop after a while, but i do need to understand the physiological and give myself the required nutrient.
my cravings are mostly for nuts and sweets, something having both though a bad combination feels like best in the time of cravings particularly cashews, so i guess if it is magnesium, then i can try cashews and green leafy veggies cooked, for reducing oxalic acid and have good quantity of them, otherwise it's difficult to have them in good quantity.
i also feel de-hydrated after meals, even if i have taken something healthy like salads, or fruits.
Let me know if there's something you think would be good for the situation.
also i wanted to ask, when do you think i can do an enema? i mean given my situation, how long should i wait before i take one?- Re: Diverticulitis attack after mont... DesertLili
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This is a reply to # 2,298,617IAmThat,
Good job!
I feel you may not have enough calories. Raw food is more water-containing and you need more frequent eating. Probably sweet fruit like dates, bananas, grapes, figs es can be on of the solutions. Or fatty foods like avocados, more nuts and flaxseed, coconut oil, cold pressed sesame or flax oil, sesame seed and last in this list - olive oil.
If you culturize the nuts (recipe on youtube) you may be able to have more and they will be more digestible, aslo if you mix them with sweet produce like coconut (or whatever available in your area) you will have the nut part and the sweet part together in a healthy way. Look for "Gorilla milk" with Lou Corona on Youtube.
Basically you may need to increase your food quantity and/or caloric value.
I believe, now you fed as many days as you fasted. You may carefully go for an enema, if you think one is needed. Seemingly you do not have anymore bleeding, but I would be rather inclined to think if you wait some more time, then the risk of a new fissure (providing this is what it was) would be lrss likely. If you decide for one, take care to use enough vegetable oil so to avoid any friction that may irritate your colon.
If you have a good ayurvedic clinic around and it is affordable you may inquire if they do Colon Cleanses there and have them teach you how to do it at home.
There is also a description of my Colon Cleanse routine, which I like doing before a fast - you will find it in my recent messages.
Now, I am sure that many would advise that if you eliminate, cleanse is not necessary. I would go with your own feeling - do you need or not a cleanse?
My own criteria for myself is - if I feel there is something stuck, which creates a problem with spasms and local "swelling" more than a day, then I assume either more fiber or cleanse is needed. With time and with using fiber at every meal, this need will gradually subside, if it hadn't already subsided for you.
Take care,
DL
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This is a reply to # 2,298,660Hi DL
I think you are right about calories, 3 times a day meal is not working for me, and i feel i can't eat enough to be digested and turned into calories, that's why and also because of colon condition i might be losing weight.
i love bananas and grapes, i think can include them in diet for rest of the time whenever i feel hungry in between, primarily for snacking.
coconut oil also seems really good option, i love what they call in india coconut chutney/sauce made with desiccated coconut and coconut oil.
i think i should wait for a month before i go for an enema.
today also i overate and noticed some red blood in my stools, i did read your message and should have taken caloric advice more seriously. i just fasted for one day 1 week ago, would do so again for 1 day this weekend.
i will take a good care of my colon, i do feel i need a cleanse but can definitely wait for it, i tried to find your post about cleanse but couldn't find it here...
//www.curezone.org/forums/s.asp?f=762&c=0&ob=d&m=DesertLili
next plan, include bananas,grapes and dates as much as possible, 3 times a day meal (once fruits, once medium salads with nuts, once cooked in coconut oil vegetable) is already there, can have these sweet fruits 3 more times in necessary quantity, but i do not understand one thing that if i am having less calories, shouldn't i feel tired rather than strong craving for food, i do feel fatigue i would say, but these cravings sometimes get uncontrollable, and sometimes i feel they are emotional and sometimes maybe physical, i just feel at times can't help with them, i hope sweet fruits helps, emotionally i feel stable in other aspects, rather better, i am fine throughout the day but in the evening i feel fatigue and some sort mild heaviness in the head and then i act on the food as if i really need it, it does limit life to meaninglessness, though i have been feeling otherwise more in touch with meaning of life, this is just ironical.
best regards
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This is a reply to # 2,299,095Hi !
This is my post I was talking about:
//www.curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=2293602#i
You may want to post under "new topic" next time.
That way you are more likely to get an input. It is difficult to track threads older than a day or two.
I will be on and off of the forume due to time constriction.
Take care,
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This is a reply to # 2,299,382Thanks DL
I am doing much better now in terms of not eating more than required amount of anything, i do feel some discomfort though which gets relieved by eating, if i can bear the discomfort, it's fine.
would do Colon Cleanse as soon as possible.
sure, would post on new thread for next post.
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