Oleander for XMRV 
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Hello,
Tony or Luella May do you know of anyone that has taken oleander to treat XMRV or chronic fatigue syndrome? If so, did the oleander help them? **XMRV is the retrovirus that has recently been associated with chronic fatigue syndrome. You can read more about XMRV by clicking on this link http://www.xandxmrv.com/
I have read that oleander has helped people with HIV and since XMRV is a retrovirus like HIV I couldn't help but wonder if an oleander supplement such Sutherlandia OPC would be helpful for people with XMRV or chronic fatigue syndrome.
Your thoughts about this would be much appreciated.
Thanks.
Taurine
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- Re: Oleander for XMRV Tony Isaacs
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This is a reply to # 1,567,254
There have been reports of SOPC helping with chronic fatigue. Given the properties of both oleander and Sutherlandia frutescens it is certainly something I would try if I had chronic fatigue. I know that I used to feel tired a lot, and often had a couple of periods during the day when I really felt pooped out. I am not sure how much the SOPC I take had to do with it, but that has not been the case ever since I began taking it. I will note that I take several other supplements and the the ones I have taken for blood sugar and fatty liver protection have likely played a role, particularly Chromium GTF.
Here are some other suggestions:
http://www.tbyil.com/Chronic_Fatigue.htm
If it were me, I would follow those suggestions, take the Chromium GTF and also add in the super nutritional product intraMAX. You might also want to add in a good superfoods powder. I like to take the custom designed one I use (modeled after the Dr. Schulze formula with added acerola) and blend it with raw organic goats milk, a raw egg. some raw honey and a tablespoon or so of blackstrap molasses for breakfast. Yumm!
For the virus itself, I would take olive leaf extract (in liquid form if possible), colloidal silver and plenty of digestive enzymes a few times a day, including on an empty stomach. Digestive enzymes help strip away the outer coatings of viruses. My favorite digestive enzymes are Garden of Life's Omega-Zymes. The best price I know of is at iherbs.com (and if you have never ordered from them before you can get $5 off your first order with my referral code of X0T949). I also take serrapeptase and bromelain to really round out my digestive enzymes.
If you do and see improvements, please let us know.
All the best,
Tony
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- Re: Oleander for XMRV Taurine
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MoreThis is a reply to # 1,567,313Tony, thank you for the advice and for replying back to me.
I have had CFS for many years now.....I have chronic Lyme Disease. So, I attributed the CFS to Lyme Disease. Very often people with chronic Lyme Disease have co-infections, such as babesia, bartonella, CPN etc.. But recently I learned that the retrovirus XMRV may be another co-infection that can possibly occur with chronic Lyme Disease and according to Dr. Judy Mikovits XMRV may be a reason that some people never seem to be able beat chronic Lyme Disease.
I have been treated for chronic Lyme Disease for several years now and my symptoms have improved considerably but I am still not completely well and the CFS is one of my worst lingering symptoms. So, my thinking is that if I do have XMVR and since XMRV is a retrovirus that is similar to HIV may be Sutherlandia OPC or a similar oleander product would be helpful for me.
Thanks again for your advice and reply.
-Taurine
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This is a reply to # 1,567,254Taurine....
Have you had your thyroid tested? Fibromyalgia and chronic fatigue are a symptom of hypothyroidism and adrenal fatigue. Most folks feel lousey with a TSH above 2. But to most doctors, that's a normal TSH.
Janie Bowthorpe has a wonderful site for more info on why testing just the TSH lets the majority of hypo folks fall through the cracks and stay untreated.
http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com
Granted, other things can cause chronic fatigue like lyme disease, but a sluggish thyroid is a major culprit in many cases of chronic fatigue and fibromyalgia.
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- Re: Oleander for XMRV Taurine
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This is a reply to # 1,567,388Iolite, thanks for the reply.
I was diagnosed as being hypothyroid and I am currently taking compounded thyroid..... it's similar to Armour. It hasn't helped my fatigue though.
I tested positive for Lyme Disease and have been diagnosed with chronic Lyme Disease. And I have found that treating chronic Lyme Disease is complicated and extremely difficult!!!!! This is one stubborn bacteria!!!!!!!!
I have tried numerous alternative and conventional therapies and I have improved but I am still not well....I have sort of reached a healing plateau. So, that's why I am looking into the possibility that I may also XMRV. XMRV is a retrovirus that is similar to HIV and therefore, I am looking into Sutherlandia OPC as a possible treatment for XMRV.
Again, thank you for your advice and suggestions.
-Taurine- Re: Oleander for XMRV LuellaMay
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Hi Taurine,
Colloidal silver has been effective against Lyme Disease. which may also help with chronic fatigue. The link takes you to Utopia Silver which is of extremely high quality with no other ingredients added. Additionally, by using coupon code LR001 you receive a 15% discount if it is not on sale. For Lyme's Disease, you would take two ounces a day. Make sure that you take probotics to insure that the intestinal flora remain thriving. Colloidal silver kills one-celled pathogens, even those resistant to antibiotics and although I don't have personal experience, I have heard great testimonies with regard to colloidal silver and Lyme's. However, I will say that I have used colloidal silver for other conditions, not only for myself, but for my dog Misty, and I can emphatically state that it has never failed me.
With regard to your thyroid, iodine supplementation may be what you need. Trapper and Wombat are the reason why I am no longer hypothyroid and I feel great, no fatigue. I remember those days.
While we are on the subject, I just want to add that I attribute colloidal silver and Oleander for my no longer having fibromyalgia, of course, together with a proper diet.
My Best,
Luella
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