Newbie: Coffee Enema? 
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Hi All,
I'm about to do my 1st coffee enema. I've done other enemas, but not coffee. The last time I did an enema (2qt saline), I was super bloated. With coffee, it can only be worse since coffee usually keeps me wired.
I read that if you hold an enema for more than 15min, it can cause systemic absorption. Is that possible with only one qt of solution which is not enough to move beyond the lower colon?
It usually takes me 10min to get one qt of saline solution in. Does that mean I should reduce my holding time to 10min (as opposed to the recommended 15min)?
Also, what is a good time to do the coffee enema? Before meal or after meal, etc?
I read that you can do 2 coffee enemas a day until the gallbladder pops. How long does it take before the gallbladder pops? What if it doesn't pop, should you up the strength of the coffee or keep going and for how long before giving up?
-thx in advance.
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- Re: Newbie: Coffee Enema? Mighty.Sun.Tzu
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MoreThis is a reply to # 1,382,268Hi Tierra,
Hi All,
re: "With coffee, it can only be worse since coffee usually keeps me wired."
Coffee in the sigmoid colon should not make your body feel the effects of the caffein whatsoever. In my experience it never has.
re: "I read that if you hold an enema for more than 15min, it can cause systemic absorption. Is that possible with only one qt of solution which is not enough to move beyond the lower colon?"
You should know that you only want to have a pint at a time inside you, a pint for about 15 minutes, release it, then bring the 2nd pint in. Total of a quart, but in 2 separate half-quart segments. And i believe i have read that you can hold the pint of coffee inside for longer than 15 minutes, but i will look for somebody else to verify this.
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- Re: Newbie: Coffee Enema? bcbutler
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This is a reply to # 1,382,280I've always done the whole quart at a time, for the past several years (every day for the first year). I lie on my left side and take up to 15 minutes to get the coffee in there using an enema bucket and coffee grown just for that from sawilsons.com. I put the tube a foot up in there, a few inches at a time letting some coffee out as I go to loosen up the muscles and to keep the tube warm and flexible.
Then I lie there for another 20 minutes. Usually after 10-15 minutes I hear/feel a squirt of bile from my liver. I have candles burning and use the time to run healing energy - my special time of the day just for healing, first thing in the morning.
The coffee stays in the sigmoid colon, where there's a closed circulatory system from there to your liver through the hemorrhoidal vein. The coffee doesn't make you wired because it never gets to your gut.- Re: Newbie: Coffee Enema? Mighty.Sun.Tzu
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This is a reply to # 1,382,306Hi bc,
Wow, everything i have ever read says to only do 2 cups at a time, and to do that twice. It certainly sounds like the entire quart works fine for you, but i am just wondering what resource led you to attempt this? Might you have any links?
Thanks!- Re: Newbie: Coffee Enema? msteve666
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This is a reply to # 1,382,405There are plenty of sources that use up to a quart. There are concentrations that use as little as a teaspoon per quart. It's an evolution as to what you end up doing.
I've used up to a quart and the concentration I use still doesn't cause any "wired" reaction, which is more than a tablespoon per cup. Currently I use 7 tbsp in 5 cups and split it. Or 3 1/2 in 2 1/2 cups if I am only doing one dose.
I precede coffee with a thorough cleansing includng a plain water enema.
Some people put Epsom Salts in the solutions. I treat it like a Liver Flush and take one dose of Epsom Salts an hour or two before the coffee.
Other little details I've evolved (including preparation and follow-up, but you get the drift.- Mini Liver Flush (ES-Coffee Enema-ES... tierra
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This is a reply to # 1,382,462Steve,
>I treat it like a Liver Flush and take one dose of epsom
>salts an hour or two before the coffee.
How long does it take for the ES to kick in? Do you follow up with another dose of ES after the coffee enema? And, how do you incorporate your meal schedule with all that?
-thx for your help
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This is a reply to # 1,382,519Well, certainly I only do this when I have full day available to stay home. And i don't eat that day during the process. Maybe some juice or fruit at the very end of the day.
With the ES, there is nothing to "Kick-In". It's just for relaxing the ducts, if that makes any difference at all with a coffee enema. Never noticed any difference at all with or with out it. After the coffee is expelled, I usually get a second smaller release within 30 minutes (so some of it worked it's way higher up), THEN I may follow with a plain water enema and/or SWF. The salt water rinses through anything that was lingering. i don't always get the same follow-up reaction. i drink a lot of water during the day - salt and plain. you can't help but to hold on to a lot of it.
My logic using the salt water was that if the liver released anything, it would be in the upper intestinal tract and the salt water would push it through quickly. but i have never seen anything more than the what was in the initial coffee/ water enema release.
you could do another ES later - but that's part of the trial and error that's might be right for you. i'm always tinkering.- Re: Mini Liver Flush (ES-Coffee Enem... Mighty.Sun.Tzu
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This is a reply to # 1,382,541would you say steve and others that a 2 cup at a time coffee enema provides less benefit than a 4 cup?- Re: Mini Liver Flush (ES-Coffee Enem... msteve666
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This is a reply to # 1,382,605Just what I felt or observed didn't seem any different with 2 than with 4, and if you look at a diagram, the sigmoid colon is right there at the forefront. Since you are not going much past that point, you don't need a big volume. Just lie on your left side and it will pool right there. I've settle on 2-3 being enough
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- Re: Coffee Enema: No more than 3 cup tierra
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This is a reply to # 1,382,678Good Point, Steve. There's no benefit to go beyond the sigmond colon (or 3 cup), and might even be harmful for coffee sensitive ppl.
>Currently I use 7 tbsp in 5 cups and split it. Or 3 1/2 >in 2 1/2 cups if I am only doing one dose.
>
How do you decide whether to do one dose or two doses?
Do you do it back to back? Or, do you wait and for how long before you do the 2nd dose?
-tia
- Re: Coffee Enema: No more than 3 cup msteve666
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This is a reply to # 1,382,895Whatever mood I'm in. I usually do one. I'm still experimenting. So, when close together, I'll wait about an hour, since i also usually have a secondary expell within that hour. And, maybe a quick 1-2 cup plain water rinse before the second one. I've also just waited until the next morning. Nothing is gospel, here. Do one, see how it goes.
I started to do extensive cleansing beforehand, just to isolate the effects, so that I knew whatever I expelled was the result of the coffee. And, unlike a liver flush, so far, I get the exact same results every time, which is just additonal sedimentation. Just don't know what it is or where it was hiding.- Thx Steve! tierra 15 y 14,909
- Re: Coffee Enema: No more than 3 cup msteve666
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- Re: Mini Liver Flush (ES or SWF) tierra
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This is a reply to # 1,382,541Steve,
>With the ES, there is nothing to "Kick-In". It's just for >relaxing the ducts,
No diarrhea or loose stool at all? What dosage of ES do you use?
>After the coffee is expelled, I usually get a second >smaller release within 30 minutes (so some of it worked >it's way higher up), THEN I may follow with a plain water >enema and/or SWF
I'd think that ES would acheive the same goal (flush out the toxins) as the SWF, but in a milder way. (I read that you're not suppose to do the SWF (Salt-Water-Flush) more than once a month.)
What concentration of SWF (Salt-Water-Flush) do yo use? I suppose your body reacts to SWF (Salt-Water-Flush) better than ES.
-tia- Re: SWF (Urgent Correction) msteve666
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This is a reply to # 1,382,632I have already fasted and precleansed, So nothing to expell. It's only an hour or so, so there isn't enough time to get any other reaction, for me anyway. Certainly long enough to hold the coffee with it kicing out. After that I am expelling and rinsing anyway.
In a day can go through a gallon of saltwater when I am REALLY cleansing. (standard concentration of 2 tsp per quart)
If you look at the Master Cleanse, it's a daily morning ritual, for the 10 days or more that you are doing it.
[EDITED NOTE: I had posted 2 tbsp per quart - WRONG - it's 2 teaspoons per quart - I had ES on my mind]- Re: SWF (Urgent Correction) tierra
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This is a reply to # 1,382,681Not familiar with the MC. I'm in no condition to do the SWF (Salt-Water-Flush) with my distressed kidney anyways. I'll stick with the ES (2Tbsp per Qt). I find it very difficult to drink 1Qt of liquid in one go. I have to force myself to do that :(.
- Re: SWF msteve666
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This is a reply to # 1,383,258Just to clarify a couple of things.
Theoreticallly, the concentration of Seasalt (2 tsp per quart) is isotonic. It neither is absorbed or draws out water. So, it just goes through you. I always drink a couple of glasses of water an hour beforehand, just to be sure I am hydrated enough. I actually find it easier to get down a lot of saltwater than an equal amount of plain water. Anyway, even at that, I can still hold on to a lot of water.
As far as ES - the Liver-Flush dosage is 1 tablespoon in 6 oz. of water.
Or a quarter teaspoon just as a magnesium supplement.
2 tbsp of ES in a quart doesn't relate to anything I've seen.
There are other protocols on kidney cleanses.
Just as and FYI check out the Master Cleanse Forum and google it, too.- MC - isotonic SWF daily tierra
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This is a reply to # 1,383,287I see. Yeah, 2tsp of salt in one qt of water ain't that salty. The Master-Cleanse cleanse actually says to drink that every morning in one sitting. Still, I have trouble taking one qt of liquid in one go (I'm only 100lbs). I usually take 16-24oz upon rising. I'll urinate a portion of that in a couple hours and repeat the same amount.....
-thx- Re: MC - isotonic SWF daily msteve666
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This is a reply to # 1,383,342That's right. One sitting.
I've seen where people have taken proportional amounts based on an average 150lb person. 24 oz would be a proportional amount to your weight.
I actually drink 2 quarts at one sitting. The first quart goes down pretty quick. But since it is moving out of your stomach pretty quick, I get the rest down within the next 15 minutes. So wait 10 minutes and you will be surprised at how much additional you can drink. (Not the same when you drink plain water or juice)I don't know anyone who does 2 quarts like I do.
I drink it warm. It doesn't really taste that salty. Some people say they gag on the taste. I guess that's just an individual sensitivity to taste.
FYI - only take when you are clear. (After a flush or cleansing protocol) It's not a laxative. You don't want it to run into a brick wall as it's racing through you.- Post Cleanse Rinse? tierra
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This is a reply to # 1,383,513>FYI - only take when you are clear. (After a flush or >cleansing protocol) It's not a laxative. You don't want >it to run into a brick wall as it's racing through you.
>
I'm confused. I thought the SWF (Salt-Water-Flush) (2tsp salt:1qt water) is part of the Master-Cleanse for 10 days straight; NOT a post-cleanse rinse.
-thx- Re: Post Cleanse Rinse? msteve666
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This is a reply to # 1,383,531Where are you confused? The Master-Cleanse is a fast. There is no solid food in you. The Master-Cleanse process is going to breakdown residual matter and the salt water will rinse it out.
The SWF (Salt-Water-Flush) isn't independent of the cleanse, it's part of it. Once your clear of what you ate after the fist day there is nothing to block the path of the salt water. That's the only prerequisite.
Now, with me, never did an MC. I know what and when I eat the day before and that my next day's elimination is from my last meal from the day before. I did an SWF (Salt-Water-Flush) today. Had a morning elimination, did a mini-fast by not eating during the day, did an early evening SWF (Salt-Water-Flush) and ate light around 8pm. I'll start eating about an hour and half after the SW, whether I've expelled the saltwater or not. Just normal eating and drinking at that point, I speculate, whether it's true or not, would stimulate peristalsis, which would help move the salt water along, if it were sluggish. Tonight it took a few hours to push through, which was an hour after I had something to eat.
None of this is written anywhere, it's just what my experience and my body told me I could do.
But, again, you don't drink salt water if there is something significant in front of it. I've had insignifcant eating a few hours before that. Maybe a few grapes, a yogurt. Minimal. Light. Nothing that is going to block the water flow. It will just wash it out.
So there is an ideal way to do it, then there is the way I allow myself to do it. OK?- Got it! Thx Steve! tierra
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This is a reply to # 1,383,543Thx for the tips and your personal experience. I'd always thought that SWF (Salt-Water-Flush) is a laxative. Thx for straighten me out.
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- Got it! Thx Steve! tierra
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- Pre-requisite for Coffee Enema? tierra
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This is a reply to # 1,383,531I know that I need to do Bowel Cleanse and kidney cleanse before the liver flush. Do you know if there're any pre-requisites for the coffee enema? Or pretty much just empty what you ate the day before (whether with SWF (Salt-Water-Flush) or ES) and that's it!
P.S. My lower back is getting increasing tight. I ordered Dr.Clark's kidney cleanse, will arrive on Monday. I'm still comtemplating whether to do the coffee enema first or wait for the kidney cleanse.
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This is a reply to # 1,384,035I've never done a kidney cleanse.
And you just want that lower section of your colon clear and clean since the coffee is just going to be sitting there. So a plain water pre-rinse is the least you should do. IMO
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Hi tierra,
We are all different so make your choice.
Please read my blog titled "My challenge" link below.
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