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Shelley: What Soy products are ok? by slawrence 20 y View Entire Thread 4
Hi Shelley! Hope you are well. I’ve been reading more about the dangers of soy and it seems that fermented soy products like miso, tempeh, etc. are supposedly ok. However, I am not sure what constitutes unfermented soy products. Would that be: tofu veggie burgers meat substitutes like tofu dogs/soy sausages/etc? I understand soy milk and the regular soybeans are ones to avoid. But I am confused about other soy products mentioned above. Thanks for your help! 834 hits
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Re: Food Allergy and other nonsense by Midge 19 y
We’ve recently found out that our son is allergic to milk, soy, and eggs. The doc that we see said that the bible of allergies is http://www.foodallergy.org. And here http://foodallergy.org/allergens.html#soy it says that for people allergic to soy it is ok to have soybean oil (certain kinds) and soy lecithin. It’s usually the soy protein that people are allergic to. But check with your doc. I would definitly do some liver cleanses, and a bowel cleanse (drnatura.com) Hope this helps, Midge 2,995 hits
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Re: Mild Flush Success! by Rick67 19 y
The best article I’ve found regarding how bad Soy is is at http://www.thedoctorwithin.com. Click on the chapters link and I think the title is ”The Magic Bean”. It will blow your mind!!!! I don’t go near SOY after reading that! I went through my whole kitchen dumping everything with SOY in it. Soy is in EVERYTHING!! It’s really hard trying to avoid Soy but it is possible. I’ll never touch soy again! 1,705 hits
Forum: Liver Flush Support
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Re: tofu- good , bad or ugly? by DianePMT 21 y
I have read a whole bunch of stuff regarding how unhealthy soy products are for humans. A local health food store here in my area won’t sell anything made from soy except miso, they believe that strongly about it. I skimmed a whole folder of articles on the subject in their book section a few months ago. Next time I’m there I will check it out and see if I can give you a reference or sum it up in a nutshell. It sounds like the soy industry is similar to the dairy industry in their marketing and making us think this is good for us. I’ve also heard that American soy is different genetic ... 2,397 hits
Forum: Liver Flush Support
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Re: night sweats by 2dreem 18 y
Congrats on getting on a healthy diet! I think it’s the soy that is causing your problems. Read this http://www.shirleys-wellness-cafe.com/soy.htm Soy is a toxic food and is now being show to cause numerous problems with people, especially children. It sounds like you’ve caught on to this. My sister was eating lots of soy for years and now has numerous cysts and other problems relating to her female organs. Soy is bad, do not eat it. 7,770 hits
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Re: Casey's 9th flush, aka "the exorcism" by crystal28 18 y
Congrats on getting on a healthy diet! I think it’s the soy that is causing your problems. Read this http://www.shirleys-wellness-cafe.com/soy.htm Soy is a toxic food and is now being show to cause numerous problems with people, especially children. It sounds like you’ve caught on to this. My sister was eating lots of soy for years and now has numerous cysts and other problems relating to her female organs. Soy is bad, do not eat it. 2,094 hits
Forum: Liver Flush Support
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Re: Day 1 of my first MC by plumsun73 20 y
ok. i went to this site and read about the soy oil, etc. now i’m really cnofused. is he saying that soy beans are detrimental in regards to thyroid, body weight, insulin, etc? or is it just soy bean oil, specifically? i have been eating more and more soy (edamame, tofu, soy beans, etc) and being so proud of myself for being healthy. i just can’t imagine that soy is bad for you (regarding thyroid, etc.). wo is that what he’s saying? ...confused... 1,164 hits
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Re: are these foods ok? by tc-12 20 y
Hey, thanks for the heads-up on rice, Without Sugar! :) Looks like we stood in the same line when somebody was handing out allergies. Perhaps other protein supplements should be tried by folks before settling on soy, if only bacause of some of the common soy warnings one hears, although I suspect such warnings might be a bit overblown. While researching a while back, I noticed that The Mayo Clinic and a few other reputable medical institutions didn’t seem to have any problem with soy so long as portions were typical (I seem to recall ”25 grams soy protein/day” or something like that, which ... 1,916 hits
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Re: tc-12 by SqueakyClean 20 y
Yes I’ve noticed that most (if not all) big names have jumped on the soy bandwagon! It’s partly monetary, I suppose, but also because once a few start promoting it, then the others feel pressure - soy is ”hip” now. They have some ”science” to show that soy is ”good” for people (stuff like how tofu has added calcium, and soy is a good source of protein - even though this is not an ideal way to take calcium, and most people overeat protein) but seems that the science is a wee bit feeble and ignores other science out there that shows the major problems with soy. So it’s not to say that people ... 1,260 hits
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Soy Myths by TC-12 20 y
Differing opinions from differing sources, possibly reflecting such matters as heavier intake of highly processed soy products (such as protein powders and isoflavone supplements), as opposed to typical amounts of mildly processed soy foods... The Mayo Clinic states, ”Soy foods have been eaten safely for centuries and can help improve cholesterol levels and promote heart health.” Harvard School of Medicine states, ”Soybeans, tofu, and other soy-based foods are an excellent alternative to red meat....The American Heart Association now recommends including soy-based foods as part of ... 1,854 hits
Forum: Candida Support
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Re: Shelley, Soy Question by annamarie 20 y
CureMe, Oh, but I love my Soy Milk. Are you sure it’s bad? I tried the Rice Milk and disliked the taste a lot. The Sun Soy is supposed to be Pasteurized from what I got from their web site: Is Sun Soy pasteurized? Yes. All Sun Soy products are pasteurized. Ultra High Temperature (UHT) pasteurization is used to make sure that Sun Soy is free of harmful microorganisms. This process is extremely fast, thus avoiding enzyme and nutrient breakdown. I’d like to stick with Soy if I can. Thank you, Anna Marie 1,545 hits
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Re: AVOIDING soya 'may aid fertility'!! by Karlin 19 y
Darn straight you should avoid soya when preggers. And most of the time? - soy was not embraced, but rather it was not used by the ancients. Soy has ”natural ” toxins that make it something of which we should eat of it only occaisionally. {Can I word that more confusedly? yeesh] Soy Online Service - search this for all the negative info on soy. I will paste some of the article[s] here, but they don’t paste well so I am leaving large swaths of it out. http://www.soyonlineservice.co.nz/ ---------- Soy Toxins There’s plenty yet that you didn’t know about soy! Soy cont ... 1,379 hits
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Soy by Fil 21 y
Just watch your soy intake. ~ Read about Soy: For Your Health or Their Wealth? ~ Read how the animal kingdom caused us to uncover the dark side of soy. ~ Learn the truth about the history and traditional use of soy in Asia. ~ Find out what they didn’t tell you about phytoestrogens and other soy toxins. ~ The soy industry is worth billions and spends millions on promoting its products. Is it any wonder that their political influence is global. ~ And if you need some advice about what constitutes a safe level of soy intake, we think we can help. ”Among the Hawaii ”study’s ... 6,352 hits
Forum: Bowel Cleanse Support
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Jook - sounds yum!! by Fil 21 y
Just watch your soy intake. ~ Read about Soy: For Your Health or Their Wealth? ~ Read how the animal kingdom caused us to uncover the dark side of soy. ~ Learn the truth about the history and traditional use of soy in Asia. ~ Find out what they didn’t tell you about phytoestrogens and other soy toxins. ~ The soy industry is worth billions and spends millions on promoting its products. Is it any wonder that their political influence is global. ~ And if you need some advice about what constitutes a safe level of soy intake, we think we can help. ”Among the Hawaii ”study’s ... 6,483 hits
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Re: Consider the Soy Controversy, Part II (Opinion) by plzchuckle 14 y
***personal note: I enjoyed finding and reading these 2 articles on soy more than most articles in quite a while. WHY? I don’t care what the holistic subject, information out there is righteous with what I’ve come to term "holistic dilemma." From the beginning, I looked at the soy contraversy from this perspective: Monsanto has the market, how much of the information is skewed by the fact that "they" are looking at GMO soy? Do the "facts" apply to organic, heirloom type soy? Probably NOT. I wondered on the ... 1,388 hits
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Re: miso? by Frank the Tank 14 y
Maybe I need to understand this more. Don’t Asians which are in the billions use Soy Products? Doesn’t seem like they are going crazy or dropping dead from using the product. I have been using Soy Milk, Soy Sauce and Soy Bean Curd for over 25 years. I go the the Asian markets and buy the same items that Asians consume and for 1/4 the price sold for in American Supermarkets. I don’t just buy a little bit. I buy soy milk and soy sauce by the gallon. I do not eat red meat (except for wild game I harvest myself) nor do I consume any dairy products. Each year I go for a complete blood ... 2,109 hits 1 of 1 (100%)
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Re: Soy Lecithin by knows 17 y
Soy lecithin. I know Barefoot has good things to say about it but I don’t buy it. http://www.thedoctorwithin.com has a very good disertation on the processing soy goes through to make it palitable. Read that before you take anything soy or dirived from soy. Plus, soy mimics estrogen in the human body. Not good, especially baby formulas derived from soy. One bottle of soy baby formual has the equivalent estrogen of 6 birth control pills in it. Can’t be good for juinior or his sister. I personally have absolutely no use for that type of soy or the lecithin that comes from it. H ... 1,654 hits
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GMO Soy; nearly all of the third generation hamsters were... by Newport 14 y
Got Thyroid Problems? Then Stop Consuming This ”Healthy” Food I recently interviewed GMO expert Jeffrey Smith about the latest findings by Russian scientists, who discovered that GM soy effectively sterilized the third generation of hamsters... One group of hamsters was fed a normal diet without any soy whatsoever, a second group was fed non-GMO soy, a third ate GM soy, and a fourth group ate an even higher amount of GM soy than the third. Using the same GM soy produced in the US, the hamsters and their offspring were fed their respective diets over a period of two years, during ... 446 hits
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Re: Sorting Out Soy Confusion by Hveragerthi 14 y
I have been following this debate for some time, have read one of Fallon’s books, and do appreciate this information. I don’t like meat/poultry very much and really have wanted to be more comfortable eating more soy beyond just the fermented soy I enjoy a lot. I have to admit, I am confused as to why a lot of these authors are considered soy opponents when they find fermented soy to be healthful and suggest it? It seems they believe in both meat and soy. If EDEN is right about how bad so much of the soy is out there, could the soy opponents be reacting to that? Is the root issue ... 1,929 hits
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Meat or Soy: Will the Real Cause of Bone Loss Please Stan...
RR by krosser 11 y
View Entire Thread 5Meat or Soy: Will the Real Cause of Bone Loss Please Stand Up? The soy industry has done it’s best to fan women’s fears about bone loss, blame meat for the osteoporosis epidemic and promote soy milk and other products as the solution. Consumers who bone up on the issue, however, will find that soy has only a rickety leg to stand on. And the soy industry itself knows this! Between 2001 and 2005, I attended three symposia sponsored by the soy industry entitled “The Role of Soy in the Prevention and Treatment of Chronic Di ... 1,110 hits
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Soy & Isoflavones in Human Health by Hveragerthi 14 y View Entire Thread 5
http://www.naturalproductsmarketplace.com/articles/2010/01/soy--isoflavones-in-human-health.aspx Soy & Isoflavones in Human Health The soybean and its many derivative products are staple foods in many Asian countries. In addition, it has long been one of the shining stars of the health-food scene. Although commonly used in tofu, soy can be found in many other forms, including meat and dairy analogues. Soy protein is available as a powdered product, and soy and its specialty compounds are offered in dietary supplements. Soy contains valuable constituents, includi ... 1,444 hits
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hexane and soy - insult to injury baby formula by trapper/kcmo 15 y View Entire Thread 4
and dont forget, only organic soya lecithin from clarkson soy will do. http://www.naturalnews.com/026303.html Soy Protein Used in ”Natural” Foods Bathed in Toxic Solvent Hexane Wednesday, May 20, 2009 by: Mike Adams, the Health Ranger, NaturalNews Editor Key concepts: Hexane, Soy and Food (NaturalNews) Virtually all ”protein bars” on the market today are made with soy protein. Many infant formula products are also made with soy protein, and thousands of vegetarian products (veggie burgers, veggie cheese, ”natural” food bars, etc.) are made with soy protein. That soy protein is a ... 1,956 hits
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Why no Peanut, Soy or Canola? RRR by molly bloom 17 y View Entire Thread 2
PEANUT OIL Peanut Oil contains 48% oleic acid, 18% saturated fat and 34% omega-6 linoleic acid. Like olive oil, peanut oil is relatively stable and, therefore, appropriate for stir-frys on occasion. But the high percentage of omega-6 presents a potential danger, so use of peanut oil should be strictly limited. Peanuts are particularly susceptible to contamination during growth and storage. Poor storage of peanuts can lead to an infection by the mold fungus Aspergillus flavus, releasing the toxic substance aflatoxin. The aflatoxin producing molds exist throughout the peanut growing ar ... 13,101 hits 2 of 2 (100%)
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How soy works in the body by Julie Deardorff by LCD 18 y View Entire Thread 2
http://www.chicagotribune.com/features/health/chi-0612170494dec17,1,7122607.c... How soy works in the body December 17, 2006 Here’s a look at soy’s role in various health conditions. Soy and cardiovascular health The American Heart Association endorsed soy as a way to reduce ”bad” cholesterol, or lipid levels, in 2000, a year after the Food and Drug Administration approved the health claim. But after reviewing more studies in the last several years, it reversed its position. Bottom line: Soy isoflavones, plantlike compounds that have a chemical structure simi ... 2,545 hits 0 of 1 (0%)
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Is Soy Healthy? by drpr 18 y
I became interested in the soy issue because not all raw foodists are 100% raw. Some are, but there are those who do not maintain 100% raw at all times, or who consider themselves some percentage of raw, with mostly-raw referred to as ”high raw” (I don’t label myself). Some of these raw foodists will eat tofu and other soy products. And many raw foodists consume nama shoyu, which is unpasteurized soy sauce. I consume nama shoyu but have decided to stay away from other highly processed soy products. However, I may decide to try edamame some day. I get emails from Dr. Mercola’s website ... 2,197 hits
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Re: soy vs. tofu by SqueakyClean 19 y
Tofu is definitely something to avoid. IF you want to eat soy at all, then how about tempeh, or miso? They are fermented so you can have them in moderation. If you can find something that has been naturally fermented then it is okay. But it’s still important to eat non-GMO, and to eat small quantities, because it can wreak havoc on your hormones! Of course, you can consume anything occasionally, be it tofu, or brownies, just be aware! Here’s another link: http://www.westonaprice.org/mythstruths/mtsoy.html and that site has more info about soy, too. Also see http://www.thedoctorw ... 1,555 hits 1 of 1 (100%)
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Re: What is the evidence that Soy is bad? by Pecosbillie 20 y
Keep in mind long-term concerns aren’t a real factor in the research regarding cattle, as they tend to be slaughered in a short period, relative to the life expectancy concerns of us humanids anyway. And plenty of research has been done on humans and the negative effects of soy. The problem is that the Soy industry has deep pockets, and like the tobacco industry, has a well funded crowd of attorneys, and in-the-pocket researchers who launch well-funded all-out assaults on any negative findings by other researchers. And the sad reality is that they do and have done just that. Some poor s ... 4,255 hits
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Re: Flax oil is *not* a goitrogen. Soy is!! by Pecosbillie 20 y
Soy, yuck! Soy is poison, period. Overall it causes way more harm to society as a whole than it helps. It’s cheap, which means profitable, and it won’t kill right away or directly, so even health food interests push it on us. No doubt even poison ivy has elements that could be benefitial if injested, it’s the rest of the plant that’ll get ya. Soy isn’t poison ivy I suppose, but close enough for me to avoid it when possible. Contrary to widely held myth, it was not a historical staple in asian countries, and even the ancients recognized it’s ’less than healthful’ aspects. Only since ... 4,399 hits
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Re: I love soyfee soy coffee by Karlin 20 y
There has been some troubles with soy. There is an FDA link below[2nd one] that is an interesting read on soy illnesses by our government. SOY report [FDA -quoted from link] - ”The problem, researchers say, is that isoflavones are phytoestrogens, a weak form of estrogen that could have a drug-like effect in the body. This may be pronounced in postmenopausal women, and some studies suggest that high isoflavone levels might increase the risk of cancer, particularly breast cancer.” There are much worse stories coming from the Healing Crow site... So its not al good with So ... 1,964 hits
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Fermented Soy IS Goitrogenic
RRR by wombat 13 y
View Entire Thread 2Fermentation INCREASES the bioavailability of goitrogens. Just stay away from any soy if you have thyroid issues and/or are iodine deficient. http://www.thehealthyhomeeconomist.com/2010/0/mercola-is-wrong-fermented-soy-is/ Mercola Confusion: Fermented Soy IS Goitrogenic by SARAH, THE HEALTHY HOME ECONOMIST on OCTOBER 15, 2010 in HEALTHY LIVING I’ve been a reader of Dr. Mercola’s alternative health newsletter for over ten years. I love how he exposes the scams of Big Food and Big Pharma and is, in ge ... 5,276 hits
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Soy by plzchuckle 10 y
GM soy destroying children (NaturalNews) Soy, once touted as a medical miracle, has been outed. Ninety-one percent of the soy we consume is tainted by the filth of the GMO machine, literally the most quietly kept epidemic of our lifetime. Soy makes up a large portion of the diet for the chickens, pigs, and cows some of us eat. Even the vegetarian/vegan community is exposed as a number of meat substitutes list soy as a main ingredient. Soy and soybean oil have wiggled their way into a wide array of processed foods including salad dressings, peanut b ... 7,514 hits
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The truth about soy
by wombat 14 y
View Entire Thread 5excellent website. http://www.soyonlineservice.co.nz/ ...Have you ever wondered about soy? It’s promoted as the miracle food that will feed the world while at the same time prevent and cure all manner of diseases. But what if all you’ve read about soy is nothing but a multi-million dollar marketing strategy based on scanty facts, half-truths and lies? Most people remain unaware that soy is known to contain an array of potent chemical toxins. The modern manufacturing processes of high-profit industries make no effort to remove these pot ... 2,120 hits
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Soy Diet Is Cruel and Unusual, Florida Inmate Claims by trapper/kcmo 13 y View Entire Thread 2
Soy Diet Is Cruel and Unusual, Florida Inmate Claims By LIZETTE ALVAREZ Published: November 11, 2011 MIAMI — One too many bouts of flatulence and cramping has led a Florida inmate to sue the Department of Corrections, arguing that the prison’s soy-based turkey dogs and sloppy Joes amount to cruel and unusual punishment. Eric D. Harris, 34, who is serving a life sentence for sexua| battery on a child, said the soy in his prison chow is threatening his health by endangering his thyroid and immune system. Florida prisons serve meals with 50 percent soy and 50 percent poultry three t ... 464 hits
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Beware of the Dangers of Soy R by LuellaMay 15 y
Brought to you by The Best Years in Life Beware of the Dangers of Soy Friday, October 30, 2009 by: Ethan Huff, citizen journalist ( NaturalNews) Soy. It is found in seemingly every prepared and processed food item available on the market. Whether it is soy protein, soybean oil, or soy lecithin, soy derivatives have become an almost universal additive in American food products. Commonly thought to be a healthy, protein-dense food, the soybean has been touted as a wonder victual capable of feeding the planet and stopping world hunger. Truth is, unfermented soy is one of the most ... 692 hits
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Beware of the Dangers of Soy by LuellaMay 15 y
Beware of the Dangers of Soy Friday, October 30, 2009 by: Ethan Huff, citizen journalist ( NaturalNews) Soy. It is found in seemingly every prepared and processed food item available on the market. Whether it is soy protein, soybean oil, or soy lecithin, soy derivatives have become an almost universal additive in American food products. Commonly thought to be a healthy, protein-dense food, the soybean has been touted as a wonder victual capable of feeding the planet and stopping world hunger. Truth is, unfermented soy is one of the most harmful, toxic substances to ever become so pr ... 527 hits 0 of 1 (0%)
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This is what I found out when I was sleuthing my MSG head... by glaxony 8 y
MSG is a natural by product in the fermentation process of making wheat-based soy sauce. Why any soy sauce would be wheat-based is beyond my comprehension and nobody has been able to answer that question, but I suspect it has to do with keeping soy sauce as cheap as possible, because wheat-free soy sauce is more expensive than regular soy sauce. Maybe they just want to damage people and kill them slowly over time. But then they would have less customers, so that doesn’t make any sense to me. The Chinese restaurants that advertise NO MSG may or may not know this. If they do not know it, you ... 538 hits
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Re: Soy and Skin Problems by Hveragerthi 13 y
Please google the Weston Price Foundation. The Weston Price Foundation is a joke. They have been thoroughly discredited more than once for their false and misleading claims. Here are some examples: http://curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=1547245#i http://curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=1542308#i http://curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=1734287#i I genuinely have nothing to sell here. My email is sent out of sincerity and is not propaganda. I used to be extremely into soy when I was a vegetarian/vegan; but I can honestly say that some of my symptoms have improved ... 1,439 hits
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Re: Is soy safe for estrogen-dominant breast cancer? by Hveragerthi 13 y
Thanks Hv! It’s good to hear a positive opinion about soy amid all the negative floating around. [Quote] All soy products are cooked and/or fermented, which reduces or destroys any potentially problematic compounds in soy. So unless someone is allergic to soy there really is no reason to fear soy products. [/Quote] I’m not sure if the Trader Joe’s Soy Protein Powder is cooked or fermented. It’s a powder that you mix with water and drink. So, isn’t it just soy beans ground into a fine powder? Either that or it’s an extract of soy proteins? In that case is it still perfe ... 1,599 hits
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Soy Sauce For Burns R by SoGAGirl 18 y View Entire Thread 2
Soy Sauce or Tamari repair burned skin. I used Soy Sauce right after I realized that I had been out in the sun too long. Every area that I applied the Soy Sauce was fine the next day. I missed an area on my back by the next day it had turned pink, was tender, and later pealed. I burned my finger while ironing one day. It was very painful and thought about trying the Soy Sauce. I dipped my finger in a small container with the Soy Sauce and got instant relief. This was rather acquired. So, I soaked the pad of a band-aid with the Soy Sauce and then placed it over the burned spot ... 9,563 hits
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Weak observations by #28447 19 y
”-how come Asians who consume large amounts of soy products daily seem to have no reproduction issues from eating it. Asians culturally are known for wanting very large families and they seem to make them as large they desire to. So I don’t get this new research about soy affecting fertility! Asians also have avoided many health problems associated with the western diet or alleviated them from eating soy regularly.” Good question.... these can only be answered by clinical studies, not epidemiological studies and observations, such as the ones you are making, where there are MANY factors ... 1,265 hits
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