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Re: About soy beans by John Cullison 22 y
Positive thing about soybeans: all eight essential amino acids. The thing that I’m not liking about soy beans at the moment is the relatively large amount of phyto-estrogens. Basically, there has been some research to suggest that soy formula as a baby causes precocious puberty. My daughter began precocious puberty before she turned 7 (and she was a soy formula baby). She’s now 9, and it hasn’t progressed into puberty yet, but we didn’t discover this link until recently. She’s now completely off soy just so as not to upset things further. Of course, animal products contain hormon ... 1,216 hits
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Regarding soy - Oy! by Dquixote1217 14 y
You could not pay me to take soy powder unless you could convince me that it came from fermented non-GMO soy. Soy is one of the most genetically modified plants on the planet and much of it has been modified to be "round-up ready" or else produce it’s own pesticides. Before you consider taking soy I strongly suggest you do a Google search for "soy dangers". You will find very few people who are not linked to the soy industry or else mainstream apologists or dupes who consider non-fermented and/or GMO soy safe. On the other hand most members here and the& ... 8,450 hits 0 of 1 (0%)
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Re: Soy!! by 13mongoose 15 y
I’ve probably consumed more soy than anybody on these forums! I was a total soy junkie and unfortunately most of the soy was processed (soy protein powders and TVP) so it was a double whammy. The problem with soy is that most of it is highly processed and genetically modified. Monsanto, the big agribusiness giant, owns most of the soy produced in the US and the world. Those, like the Indonesians, who eat soy and do alright with it consume non-GMO soy and ferment it also. Its not quite as bad in that state and somebody could certainly live on it but who would want to eat a flavorless b ... 1,719 hits
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Biggest Brazil !soy state" loses taste for GMO seed by chrisb1 15 y
SORRISO, Brazil (Reuters) - Farmers in Brazil’s Mato Grosso, the country’s top soy state, are shunning once-heralded, genetically modified soy varieties in favor of conventional seeds after the hi-tech type showed poor yields. ”We’re seeing less and less planting of GMO soy around here. It doesn’t give consistent performance,” said Jeferson Bif, who grows soy and corn on a large 1,800 hectare farm in Ipiranga do Norte, near the key Mato Grosso soy town of Sorriso. He said he obtained average yields of 58 bags (60 kg) per hectare with conventional soy last season while fields planted ... 2,730 hits
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Re: biggest hampering of my motivation..help by ginger4jeff 15 y
http://www.skrewtips.com/2008/02/08/oh-soy-bad-how-we-are-mislead-about-the-benefits-of-soy/ http://www.soyonlineservice.co.nz/ http://www.westonaprice.org/soy/soy_badnews.html http://www.soyonlineservice.co.nz/03summary.htm http://www.frot.co.nz/dietnet/basics/soy.htm Every once in a while, I will ingest some ORGANIC soy as a condiment but not to replace some sort of animal product! ~eme 1,348 hits
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Re: Lecithin Advice from the Initiated? Also - salt. by knows 16 y
I personally don’t agree with lecithin. It comes from Soy and soy is some nasty stuff. So I don’t advise people take it. Soy slows thyroid function. Barefoot is a big advocate of soy lecithin so you may want to ask him. I don’t like or advise anything from soy except fermented soy which is where natokinase comes from. Of course the fermantation process does its work and the soy used is not processed at all. Read http://www.thedoctorwithin.com about soy. Doc 1,467 hits
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Re: Soy products/ thyroid gland by #75777 17 y
Soy as a whole product, contains many things, one is lecithin. Soy lecithin supplements simply rip away the lecithin, which does not contain any of the other good/bad things of the soy (except of the inevitably trace amount due to the mechanical extraction process). Do you know what lecithin is? It is a mixture of glycolipids, triglycerides, and phospholipids. It can be isolated from eggs or soy, but egg lecithin is not the same as eggs, as soy lecithin is not the same as soy. Before making this claims do some research. In spite of current research against many soy toxins it is imp ... 3,140 hits
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Re: an oldie but goodie on soy by hopinso 18 y
I asked my Naturopath about soy when one of the frequent controversies was going on here. He thought soy was fine in moderation. One of the problems is that soy is very common as a filler in refined foods and some ”health” foods. Many people are consuming huge amount of soy without realizing it (or perhaps not caring). Doc. would say eat a Bocca burger or drink a glass of soy milk or eat a little soy cheese, but don’t do all three in a day, and don’t use soy as a major part of the diet everyday. A little soy can be good, even beneficial, but too much can cause problems. Moderation is the k ... 1,552 hits 1 of 2 (50%)
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A Japanese Diet Contains FERMENTED Soy Products by DrJulienArbor 15 y
Fermented Soy Foods by author RoseMarie Pierce, BSc Pharm For more than 2,000 years, the modest little soybean (Glycine max (L.) Merr., Leguminosae) has provided us with nutrition and healing power. New research shows that we derive the greatest benefits from soybeans when they are prepared in traditional ways, especially when fermented. Traditional soy foods are usually divided into two groups: fermented products such as miso, soy sauce, tempeh, and natto, and non-fermented products such as tofu and soymilks. In the name of health, North Americans are increasingly developing a ta ... 4,804 hits
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Re: --Correct answers-- R by #58095 18 y
An international watchdog group, the Soy Online Service, has made it a mission to ”uncover the truth about soy” and tell us about ”the plethora of criminal and dangerous lies that issue from the soy industry.” Overdose on soy, we’re warned, and, as the men’s magazine Best Life suggests, we could ”Grow man boobs! Shed muscle tone! Boost estrogen! Saps your sex drive!” These are extremists. But even mainstream scientists are pulling back. New research shows soy is no magic bullet. Yet scientists also see soy’s fall from grace as the latest casualty in Americans’ endless search for a ... 3,501 hits 1 of 1 (100%)
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Re: You changed my mind by Neo... 15 y
Goitrogenic and estrogenic activity of soy isoflavones. Doerge DR, Sheehan DM. Division of Biochemical Toxicology, National Center for Toxicological Research, Jefferson, Arkansas, USA. Soy is known to produce estrogenic isoflavones. Here, we briefly review the evidence for binding of isoflavones to the estrogen receptor, in vivo estrogenicity and developmental toxicity, and estrogen developmental carcinogenesis in rats. Genistein, the major soy isoflavone, also has a frank estrogenic effect in women. We then focus on evidence from animal and human studies suggesting a link between s ... 3,825 hits
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Re: Mouseclick, fuhrman diet by chrisb1 15 y
SARA, Dr Fuhrman has this to say on soy and any one plant based diet........... ”Nutritional biodiversity----eat a variety of plant foods, and do not eat a soy-based diet”. But he is not against including soy as part of the diet............ http://www.diseaseproof.com/archives/healthy-food-too-much-soy.html Regards Chrisb1. 1,455 hits
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Re: Soy Milk by Dr. Lam 16 y
for those with estrogen dominance or sensitive body, soy can increase estrogenic effect by nature of its phytoestrogenic properties. for others, moderate amount of soy is acceptable. soy comes in two forms, fermented and not fermented. Fermented form can be taken by all, and it included tempeh and miso and soy sauce. soy milk or tofu is non fermented and has be used with care ,especially in women. 2,545 hits 1 of 1 (100%)
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Re: low body temperature: low thyroid function by Hveragerthi 16 y
to shut down. Tofu and soy milk are not going to suppress thyroid function. Raw soybeans are a goitergen just like peanuts, broccoli, cabbage, Brussel’s sprouts, turnips, etc. But fermentation, used to make tofu, or cooking, used to make soy milk inactivate goitergens. 1,909 hits
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Re: Soy myths part 1 by Ruffneck 14 y
Big agri is still claiming processed soy is healthy , have you tried finding a loaf of bread without soy flour in it nowdays? When you take into account the amount of processed soy , GM soy and canned soybean (BPAs) the amount of natural soy eaten is small in comparison.Regardless it would be good to have exactly the same study done but with people eating only unprocessed non-GM soybeans (if this is even possible anymore) 6,097 hits
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Re: Soy info. Doesen't look good to me? by magic_glitter 18 y
These are all the articles Mercola has on soy: http://www.mercola.com/article/soy/index.htm This one: http://www.mercola.com/2000/feb/13/soy_thyroid_disease.htm in particular made me think of my sister. Mercola has collected a rather extensive amount of information against soy, but soy is advocated as something healthy. It’s so easy to be confused here!! 1,281 hits
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Re: soy by Tony Isaacs 17 y
GM soy is certainly far, far MORE dangerous than non GM organic soy. Both the soy and milk industries have axes to grind against one another, but to me that is much like the pot calling the kettle black. Here is the other side of the debate: http://www.westonaprice.org/soy/ploy.html and I pretty much agree with it. Almond milk would be a much better choice, imo. DQ 2,463 hits 3 of 3 (100%)
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Re: way to eat after MC? by Joyful 20 y
I am vegetarian anyway so I’ll be continuing as usual. Except for the fish (I get my Omega 3 from flaxseed oil), like Itsycoo, my diet is very much Japanese style with a focus on seaweed, tofu, lots of veggies, some fruit and brown rice. I eat other soy products too like soy cheese, almond cheese (my favorite!), soy ice cream (like Soy Delicious), tamari and texturized soy protein (TSP). I need to stop now, I’m making myself hungry!! 1,128 hits
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Re: CAN YOU MAKE KEFIR IN SOYA MILK?? by arlenaghan 20 y
Kareem - Soy products are not good for you........go to: http://www.mercola.com/article/soy/ What is much better for you is: coconut oil go to: http://www.coconutoil.com/research.htm Soy products can make you very very sick......my son was getting so sick/tired etc...because he was using the soy powder in the mistaken belief (propaganda) that it would make him healthy.........when he stopped using it,,,,he got better within the week and hasn’t touched the stuff since... all the best...arlene 2,307 hits
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Re: Could a stuck stone cause a stroke? by just_peachy 21 y
It seems that most articles and research singing the praises of soy somehow also make money from soy products. Just an odd observation after reading the following sites and then doing some digging. Why Soy Can Damage Your Health The Magic Bean? Soy-tainly not! 3,853 hits
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About soy beans by Claudio Acuña 22 y View Entire Thread 3
I am experimenting eating soy beans as my basic meal. Soy beans are easy to cook, easy to eat and tasty. Soy beans have a lot of fiber and for that reason they promote interesting bowel movements. Proteins of soy beans have a biological value of 74 in a scale where the whole egg protein has a value of 100. This number makes the soy beans as the more efficient veggie for acquiring protein from food. Claudio Acuña 1,537 hits
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Re: SOY ALeRT! by Jawg 20 y
They marketed it as health food. But who did the marketing? - it was the soy marketing board, the producers of soy. I was sucked in by it, it was BOGUS!! Soy has toxins all by itself, that it produces.Soy has been avoided by cultures for millenia. ’ Link to another good soucre of truth on soy below - Jawg http://www.soyonlineservice.co.nz/index.htm 895 hits
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Re: shame on me? how about shame on you? by #29858 20 y
They marketed it as health food. But who did the marketing? - it was the soy marketing board, the producers of soy. I was sucked in by it, it was BOGUS!! Soy has toxins all by itself, that it produces.Soy has been avoided by cultures for millenia. ’ Link to another good soucre of truth on soy below - Jawg http://www.soyonlineservice.co.nz/index.htm 3,440 hits
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And then read rebuttal to Bill Sardi... by #28447 19 y
Here’s Fallon and Enig’s rebuttal to Bill Sardi: http://www.westonaprice.org/soy/soy_update2001.html ”Reply to Mr. Bill Sardi, published in The Townsend Letter, April 2001” Oh, and Dr. Mercola now also cautions against soy ”food”. Read: ”Soy Myth Exposed: Soy is Not a Health Food” http://www.mercola.com/2005/feb/26/soy_myths.htm 3,237 hits
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Thyroid medication and soy by Oma 20 y View Entire Thread 2
I have been reading about too much soy in your diet will interfere with thyroid medication. I have been trying to lose weight and can’t seem to get anywhere. I was wondering if anyone had any concrete evidence that soy in the diet isn’t good if you are taking thyroid medication (synthroid). If so, how much is too much? I drink soy milk, soy cheese and use soy flour in receipes. Any help out there? Oma 2,275 hits
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Dalpert by gracey 21 y
Soy especially processed soy, like Soy Milk and protein bars made of soy isolate, soysauces, etc...causes Hormonal Imbalances. A little may not be enough to notice. However it mimics estrogen in the body which may inhibit ones production of other hormones. Many men claim that they have experienced some libido problems while ingesting soy on a regular basis. Just a warning it may be different for you. 9,383 hits
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Re: Soy by shelleycat 20 y
The whole ”eat soy for estrogen” idea was due to bad research. There are 20 other reasons NOT to eat soy, and the affect on estrogen is not positive over time. Baby girls fed soy are menstruating by age 8 and are infertile by age 28. Boy babies fail to achieve a healthy puberty. For more info: http://www.westonaprice.org/soy/index.html 995 hits
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Soy Lecithin can affect the thyroid and alter the require... by Penn 7 y
Soy Lecithin can affect the thyroid and alter the requirement for iodine. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16571087 There’s lots of info on this online... https://draxe.com/what-is-soy-lecithin/ After reading some of this stuff, is it possibly you guys are experiencing soy poisoning yet still blaming iodine? I’ll refrain from suggesting the obvious, wrt soy and BP. 4,048 hits
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Re: Soy Lecithin can affect the thyroid and alter the req... by Penn 7 y
Do you take soy products? My post was directed to the effects of soy & the thyroid etc. You seem totally intent on blaming iodine for something, everything, no matter what. Does it even matter whether you take soy products or not?? Obviously trying to downplay soy’s effects, blaming iodine all the way. hmmm... A BP troll would do this. 3,937 hits
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Soy Bad, Bad, very Bad!!!!! by Maniek 14 y View Entire Thread 11
Each year, research on the health effects of soy and soybean components seems to increase markedly. Research is not just expanding in the areas such as cancer, heart disease and osteoporosis; the soy industry suggest that soy has potential benefits that may be more extensive than previously thought. The multibillion-dollar soy industry insists that the health benefits of soy significantly outweigh any potential risk. What was once a minor crop listed in the 1913 US Department of Agriculture (USDA) handbook, not as a food but as an industrial product, now covers 72 million acres of American ... 2,034 hits
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Re: Soy Myths by lucifiel 15 y
(I’m a Singaporean Chinese, btw. =) I do eat quite a bit of soy from time to time.) Interesting... and sorry for bringing up an old thread. Asians have been eating soy(fermented and non-fermented) for thousands of years. Yet, if soy is supposed to cause cancer or whatever problems, then why are Asians still up and living? Let’s just put it this way: I do not believe there was a diagnosis or even any form of treatment for cancer a few thousand years ago, so why haven’t most of us been wiped out already? After reading more than a few hundred articles and posts about this topic, I t ... 2,028 hits
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Soy Reduces Sperm Count by Liora Leah 16 y
Soy reduces sperm count: study http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20080730/ts_afp/ushealthinfertilityfood WASHINGTON (AFP) - Eating or drinking a lot of products containing soy and isoflavones can result in reduced sperm count among men, a Harvard School of Public Health study has shown. ”There has been a lot of interest on whether soy affects fertility because many studies in animals suggest that this is the case, but there are very few studies in humans,” said researcher and lead study author Jorge Chavarro. ”This only the third study to look at whether soy food has a relatio ... 2,625 hits
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Re: Where do I get my important by Pecosbillie 20 y
Actually, any claim that the meat industry is worried about soy is simply wrong. They aren’t, not in the least. Soy is nasty crap, by any measure. It tastes bad, has many side effects many negative that can take litterally decades to manifest. Now if you want to talk stooges, lok to big soy. THese people make other lobby groups and political action groups and such look like a group of Mother Theresa clones as a group of Girl Scouts. Most university researchers simply refuse to even do any research on Soy if they anticipate a result contra to soy interests, because ”Big Soy” plays ha ... 1,570 hits
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History Of Soy by Lapis 18 y View Entire Thread 7
Learn The Truth About The Historical Use Of Soy Just How Much Soy Did Asians Eat? In short, not that much, and contrary to what the industry may claim soy has never been a staple in Asia. A study of the history of soy use in Asia shows that the poor used it during times of extreme food shortage, and only then the soybeans were carefully prepared (e.g. by lengthy fermentation) to destroy the soy toxins. Yes, the Asians understood soy all right! Many vegetarians in the USA, and Europe and Australia would think nothing of consuming 8 ounces (about 220 grams) of tofu and a couple of ... 1,444 hits
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Two Faced About Soy? by chef jem 14 y
I hardly ever watch TV. Maybe once a year I will look a some of an extraordinary event like a special event in the Olympics. I have never watched the Dr. Oz show before this afternoon. The only reason I did was because Dr. Kaayla Daniel, the author of ”The Whole Soy Story: The Dark Side of America’s Favorite Health Food”, made an appearance. I cut out a precious hour of my day to see this and even had alerted a few friends to watch it as well saying it was ”guaranteed to be informative”. I trusted Dr. Kaayla Daniel’s knowledge on this subject. I didn’t know what part Dr.Oz would play an ... 2,555 hits
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No argument from me by Dquixote1217 13 y
No argument from me. Other than fermented organic soy products I do not see how anyone who claims to be in favor of natural health can promote the use of soy. Non fermented soy is decidedly dangerous and it’s promotion comes from the deceptions of the multi-billion dollar soy industry. Whether fermented or not, the very large majority - perhaps 85% - of all soy is GMO soy. Soy and canola, another unhealthy item, are two of the three most genetically modified food crops in the world. Another is corn, from whence we get corn oil and, worse, high fructose ... 2,004 hits
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Re: Soy? R by grzbear 18 y
You can do a search on http://www.mercola.com In addition you can try this: http://thyroid.about.com/cs/soyinfo/a/soy.htm and type ”dangers of soy” in google... bunches of stuff pops up, whether they are reliable or not I could not say. I do know that after canola, soy is the biggest GMO crop in the US, then corn... if you eat processed food with any canola, corn or soy ingredients it is likely to be GMO. GMO is associated with lung, brain, and digestive disease in laboratory studies (probably a whole host of things they have not identified yet) and I guess more rec ... 3,727 hits 2 of 2 (100%)
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Re: Soy protein ok before liver flush? by sandover 18 y
After reading Dr. Mercola and Nina Planck, I do not eat most soy products or give soy to my family anymore. If it is protein you want, what about just beans? I have come to the conclusion that soy is really, really bad for us. It’s, as Planck calls it, a completely industrial food. It throws hormones out of whack. And, it lurks in most processed foods! Some places suggest that fermented soybeans are OK (natto, soy sauce, tofu). We bailed on tofu, soy milk, and other products containing soy flour or oil. Go to mercola.com and search for soy and read for yourself! I felt pretty horr ... 1,978 hits
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Re: Weight gain by Omie 21 y
Hi Nequamminor, The thought occured to me that you might be getting too much soy in your diet. Do you drink smoothies made with soy products? Soy milk? There are phytoestrogens in soy that can cause symptoms like you are experiencing, including the enlarged breasts. Soy is also in mayonnaise, breads, pasta sauce, etc, etc. It would be easier to list the items that don’t have soy. If the soy answer is no, you might want to have your thyroid checked as a malfunctioning thyroid can also cause weight gain. Hope this is helpful. Omie 1,228 hits
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Soy Bean : Is it Good or Bad? by Gail 22 y View Entire Thread 15
hi, i’m a vegetarian, and soy bean and tofu are part of my diet. I always thought of it as being beneficial to health. furthermore, it is a source of protein that vegetarians/vegans usually lack. I recently found this article on this website: http://www.shirleys-wellness-cafe.com/alert.htm#soy The article goes as follows: ------------------------------------------------- Newest Research On Why You Should Avoid Soy Contrary to popular belief that soy is a health food, evidence reveals that soy consumption has been linked to numerous disorders, including infertility, increased ... 1,075 hits
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