I have been researching fulvic acid and I believe that this may be an important adjunt to MMS supplementing, specifically I want to point you to the FACT that MMS is an OXIDIZING agent, and oxidizing agents cause free-radicals in the system, someone correct me please if I am wrong here, anyway please go over this article and pay attention to the end of the article that discusses oxidation and fulvic acid. As well, fulvic acid may help to nutralize negative impacts of INorganic chlorites and allow for lower dosing with better results!!! Fulvic acid (also know as humic shale) complex ...
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If this is your sentiment really, then you better go apologize to Lynne Farrow, who did absolutely nothing to you. I suggest you do this on Ask Curezone. If you do that, then perhaps I’ll believe you mean what you say. Otherwise, I would think this is superficial. If you go down and erase your post about her, I will do the same on the forum I posted it also. Respond to this post and tell me your intentions.   [End]
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Please people, with all due respect, I will prefer to read constructive things when I go online. Maybe V has some health issues which make him say things, did you consider that? Just my 5 cents, but I do respect all your opinions. Please respect others like me. Thanks.   [End]
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Unfortunately this has been put on this forum, it was pulled from Webmaser support. It has been an ongoing fight, but I am finished on my end!   [End]
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Wow!!. People, we are entitled to our own opinions, but let’s not have this kind of fights here, being sick is bad enough. Breath ... breath ...   [End]
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You are doing things different? Vulcanel and his partners cannot post in the debate forums. You blew it in the support forum for any word from someone with experience. I like how brave you all are. The rest of us cowards can learn from all of you. Please keep us updated regularly on MMS.   [End]
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Sorry, to throw you off... Actually, its a bit of a personal issue. Just ignore the whole thread. It will probably get removed soon enough. Be well   [End]
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I’ve been reading these threade for several days to help educate myself about mms and ya know what, I don’t have a clue what you are talking about here, kinda off subject.   [End]
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Okay, have it your way...but just between us it was never about iodine and I think you know what I mean. Peace   [End]
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I agree, but, I wasn’t the one who escalated it. I’m generally peaceable. You really ought consider being nice to me, and you will find I can reciprocate quite well as others know. Just stop messin with Iodine Supplementation forum, and the V, and things will be just fine. It is but one forum of 300 on CZ, and you have many other places you can go. [Video Embedded Here]   [End]
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I would like to tell you that I feel bad that things have escalated out of control...I’m sure that we can put this all behind us soon. If you are nice to me, then I will be nice to you. Deal or no deal?   [End]
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Not sure if you are aware of the current conflicts going on, but V has enough to deal with right now... I see where you are going but timing is off. Perhaps you can edit this post.   [End]
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The second three paragraphs of the first new post in the MMS debate forum since its inception begins with a personal interpretation and discussion of ”V”’s personal traits. Hardly fit for a debate forum, especially by the main champion of MMS. Sounds more like it ought belong in the ” #2 Hate V forum”. Perhaps you’ve missed the boat, the Iodine Debate forum is the #1 place to air negative personal sentiments about ”V”. This forum should not be competing with Iodine Debate for Hate V, but should rather focus on the issue at hand. Focus on information, not personalities. Now w ...
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you have probably missed something. I know I have.   [End]
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Wombat, I appreciate your p   [End]
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And aren’t you doing the same thing as PB? ”Jerkoffs will come on here to argue personal issues. Those who argue personal issues and not information sharing in the spirit of the site, are but chaff, changing movement with the shifting winds. They stand for nothing that any Man stands for.” Of course, it is you who attacks on the personal level, and then when someone comes back to defend themselves you cry foul ball. Take it like a man or apologize and save us all from having to go through this over and over again!!!   [End]
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Wow, it’s Friday night and you’ve spent time writing all that. Some may try being nice sometime, and they may find themselves able to land a date with one of their own species. It’s happy hour in Yankee land, and all the studs are out mingling, while the PBuds sit home and peck at the keyboard, wallowing in their own sorrows, injecting themselves into affairs of others concerning personal matters which matter not. Ego. The jerks always talk about ego as if it is some bad thing, but the constant reference to same as a basis for an argument is the mark of the name-caller’s inherent w ...
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Well said, HennaHead. No one here is perfect and sometimes things are said that shouldn’t be or personalities may be abrasive, but in the end, it is all about the knowledge and the sharing. Thank goodness we do still have that on Curezone. People are being helped here on Curezone. Let’s not loose Curezone over childishness. This should be an embarassment to those who don’t know when to stop the arguing. There is no need for arguing. Patience is a virtue. Take a deep breath and go do something far away from your computer until you have let it go. Then come back to your computer ...
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finally, somebody who gets it.   [End]
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Be careful, it might appear to some that you have a willful intent to slander Lynne Farrow, publicly.   [End]
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Actually I am not Lynn. I have no idea what her user ID # is, but there seems to be a glitch in the system. If I have to, I will be happy to tell my user name to clear her’s. First, I will ask that the webmaster respond to this email prior to doing that. In fact, there are two posts that are not mine, but have my number.   [End]
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This exercise was like contras   [End]
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all that you have proven is that you continue to troll these forums for your own amusement. i thought the webmaster cleaned up this mess once already.   [End]
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where did V talk dirty to the girls? i wanna see.   [End]
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I am Spdina too. No you’re not. Yes I am. No. Yes. Ahhhhhh. Mmmmmm. Stop that. No, you stop. I can’t. Why not ? I’m Spdina.   [End]
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Not at all.   [End]
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He only does it for SHOW!!!   [End]
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Yelrah you are a hoot! Hope you didn’t mind me using your post in the threads here...   [End]
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Subject: Spirit.... Thank you. Username: vulcanel contact vulcanel Date: 11/9/2007 3:49:28 PM ( 7 days ago ) Hits: message viewed 92 times Size: 510 char. URL: http://curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=1039238 Replies: 2 Bad Message Alert: Alert Moderators on This BAD Message Good Message Alert: Alert Moderators on This GOOD Message This is me. Click here to see my profile. vulcanel Thanks alot for toleratng all the nonsensical rants. You must be a very patient man indeed. I’m sorry for participating on the two threads below, on what is supposed to be you ...
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He knows how to apologize and has done so, very publicly for show no doubt, but only to those that pose no perceived threat to him. That is why there are many on these boards, who have not seen him at his best\worst, depending on point of view, that think he is A #1 okay. V exposed over.   [End]
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But, I’m not a sorry person. When a person says: ”I’m sorry” it has a psychological effect on the self. I personally prefer the words: ”I apologize”, when, in those rare instances where such words are appropriate for a situation. Saying ”I’m sorry” is a self-fulfilling prophesy for many, but I don’t go there. I apologize for not agreeing with you that your word choice of saying that YOU are sorry is appropriate for me, but, that is what free will is all about, no ?   [End]
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That would require two things: admitting the capacity for being wrong, and being human.   [End]
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If only you knew how to say sorry...n/t   [End]
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I was wondering when you would show up here and feel compelled to throw in your useless two-cents. I konw you just can’t resist, something deep down inside you makes you want, NEED to say something negative about V. You need it, otherwise you wouldn’t do it. You need V. But you were a little late, I figured you’d a been here an hour ago.   [End]
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Clearly, he is jealous of you Bear, otherwise he wouldn’t have attacked you on THAT level. See a real man doesn’t need to talk perverted or down to others because he is comfortable and confident within himself.   [End]
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You still stuck on my use of fear monger in referring to a post of yours months ago? Perhaps you should learn more about a subject before you post on it then. Troll fed... Are you happy now? I am :-) chow time.   [End]
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”I would like to think that these threads with your involvement in them would end at some point, but then we both know, you thrive on them.” Well, then what’s stopping you from thinking that ? Feel free to think as you wish. You just don’t like VWT forum, because you came in and called me a fearmonger, and after two previous disruptions and personal attacks, I finally blocked you from further posting. As most appreciate, we don’t tolerate childish namecalling from half-century old men. You are free to congregate with the other unhappy ones and discuss my personality and style ...
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V, you stated ”because we’re not interested in personalitiy evaluations, only information.” This is not true at all as evidenced by all the OT senseless banter that goes on... and on. People see through your blatant lies, including this one by you: http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1043810#i Your quote; ”What ”iodine dissenters”, all six of them, don’t like, is that they’re in the minority. They don’t like seeing other people happy and having fun. That’s because they’re inherently not happy people. They identify themselves as unhappy by the words they write, always critical ...
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Nobody follows me. I keep looking behind me to make sure. When anybody gets close, I make a quick turn and floor it. V has no followers, regardless of what may appear in your mind. Those people are all free and independent thinkers. They read the articles for themselves, and then make their own informed decisions. I’m not surprised that some can’t understand that, typically those themselves who are not capable of free and independent thought. They think everyone else is like they themselves are - a follower.   [End]
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Yes, my intentioned statement regarding banning was designed to allow you to prove to all that you are capable of only focusing on personalities, to admit your true self, the one who calls others names - Namecaller. That is because your mind is wholly devoid and incapable of discussing health-related topics on their merits. I don’t mind if you call me names. It has no effect whatsoever on anything but to discredit yourself But I don’t want your ”good luck”. You need to keep it.   [End]
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The point you always seem to miss... What most complain about is the FACT that you don’t talk JUST iodine and chemistry, you talk dirty to women, your twisted and perverted and mostly YOU act like you’re the GOD of curzone!!! I find you tasteless and the women who follow you, or should I say your ”made up” fantasies, are not exactly the brightest bunch to follow a BAD BOY like you!   [End]
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Quote: ”Don’t you get it ???? It’s not about personalities. It’s about information presented.” From the horse’s mouth... only information is important. Not how that information is presented to the personality it is directed at. Or, to put it another way: information is more important than the human being.   [End]
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Hahahahahaha! I love you Vulcanel! You are so predictable and quite humorous! I am banned from your forum? The horror of it all!! Hahahahaha! Oh my, you really are a character. You do understand that the action of banning me from your forum for something I said in another forum proves the point I am making here all along. A petty tyrant you are and will remain untill you grow up. Once again, good luck to you.   [End]
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Egomaniacs always think everything revolves around them! It is fruitless to waste anymore of your energy. But I think the points have been well proven. Hopefully, we have all learned our lessons from all of this and we can all move on knowing better and perhaps even manage to forgive and forget!   [End]
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I’m not here for personal agendas, only considering the information persented. I don’t care if the world is full of hypocrits. Maybe I am one. So freaking what ? What are you going to do about it, but piss and moan all day long with the others ???? Why don’t you learn to look at the issues surrounding the chemistry and studies, and forget about personalities ? That’s what we do on VWT. When a disruptor comes in, we kick them out. Call me all the names in the book, and GAS WHAT ???? I don’t care !!!!!!! You’re just a Namecaller. Don’t you get it ???? It’s no ...
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Dont you understand that this isn’t about iodine vs. MMS or any other supplement or health protocol? this is about your BEHAVIOR and your HYPOCRISY. I simply cant state my point any clearer than I have already. Good luck to you.   [End]
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Nothing I”ve written should be construed as being for YOUR benefit, but rather to other readers. Dissenters of the Iodine Project, Abraham, Flechas, et al. have a venue, created by the Webmaster, just for them. They should be grateful for that. You don’t seem to understand, so why not stick your head in a cold bucket of water for six minutes and then reconsider ? What ”iodine dissenters”, all six of them, don’t like, is that they’re in the minority. They don’t like seeing other people happy and having fun. That’s because they’re inherently not happy people. They identify t ...
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Well gosh golly, some people think iodine supplementation as its espoused in your forum is dangerous, but that doesn’t stop you from banning them when they say that. Its really very simple, you ban people in your forum for the exact same type of behavior you exhibit in other forums. Its hypocritical pure and simple. If you want to debate MMS or anything else then do so in the many debate forums, you can post anything in the Curezone open debate forum if I am not mistaken. As for Abraham, and all that iodine research, well thats lovely. But there are other people with different resear ...
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Nope, there’s an iodine debate forum where all the dissenters with nothing better to do can go. But, they’re not arguing against VWT, they’re arguing against 150 years of positive history of Dr. Lugol’s solution, The Iodine Project, Dr. Abraham, Flechas, Blaylock, Shevin, Ghent, Easkin, Miller, Derry, http://www.iodine4health.com ; jcrows; and hundreds of personal testimonials of SUCCESS. Their real arguments are with those folks, if they had any arguments of merit. Fact is, they don’t have any meritorious arguments to present, so they just piss and moan and whine and complain. ...
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And you say it swell too!!   [End]
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Perhaps he gets mixed up with all the identities he has created on curezone??? Sometimes I wonder if V is also W, C, HH, #88706...??? I think he may have a multi-personality disorder.   [End]
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Thats all very nice and swell, but the reality is that you refuse to allow others to ”warn” of the dangers of iodine on your forum, but then want to ”warn” people of the dangers of this or that in other forums. This is called hypocrisy, and you do it regularly and its obvious to quite a few people. If you want the luxury of being confrontational in other forums, then give that same luxury to people in your forum. Otherwise you come across as just another petty tyrant who cant stand anyone to disagree with him.   [End]
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Its common knowledge that people who refer to themselves in the third person have an outsized ego and are viewed by others as deeply flawed in a humorous or bizarre manner.   [End]
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I had no idea that was a word, but seeing how silly it looks I would have no interest in using it! Thanks anyway!   [End]
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in·an·i·ty Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[i-nan-i-tee] –noun, plural -ties for 2. 1. lack of sense, significance, or ideas; silliness. 2. something inane. 3. shallowness; superficiality. in·ane Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[i-neyn] –adjective 1. lacking sense, significance, or ideas; silly: inane questions. 2. empty; void. –noun 3. something that is empty or void, esp. the void of infinite space But if you prefer insanity, I can go with that too. See? You learned a new word today. Don’t wear it out. I rest my case.   [End]
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Aw, you’re just jealous. I was just trying to warn some folks, and get some clarification. From IDSfireguy’s post at MMS forum http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1043362#i See page 61 of the article in the right column, under the Discussion section. In monkeys, chlorite interferes with thyroid function, meaning it’s likely a goitrogen, just as perchlorate and other oxychlorine species. Also had renaltoxic effects in rats. That’s kidney. MMS is bunk, and it needs its own Debate Forum, as has been suggested on webmaster debate forum. Meanwhile, positive testimoni ...
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“You argue like a child. Completely unprofessional and emotional. Sad really. Wombat is way out of your league and I have no idea why she even bothers answering your inanity.” ************************Do you mean insanity? “And for the record...speedy. I can match, post for post, grammar for grammar, illogical and immature writing style of you and (speedy). Did speedy get banned? Hmmm. It’s like the disgruntled ex-employee returning to do nothing but create trouble.” “You fool no one. Duh.” And you’re calling me childish???? Looks like someone felt left out and wanted to p ...
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There’s very few losers in the world who think this of V, and he’s not bothered by it. He understands that it is a law of your human nature that everybody cannot be simultaneously ”happy”. V wouldn’t WANT to make the kids with poor hygeine who smelled like they never wiped their butt back in grade school like him anyway. He wants them to stay away, far far away and is glad they don’t like V. One can call an apple tree a cherry tree all season long, but in the autumn when the fruit drops, it doesn’t matter what you called it. It is what it is. And by their fruits, you know what ki ...
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You argue like a child. Completely unprofessional and emotional. Sad really. Wombat is way out of your league and I have no idea why she even bothers answering your inanity. Oh wait, maybe I do know why. Because she is passionately dedicated to her forum. She is passionate about helping other women. She cares and works hard. I guess that kind of dedication is confusing to you. She is not rude to anyone, except to those that personally attack her. A very human quality. You are only passionate about listening to yourself complain. You love it, admit it! And for the recor ...
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have had my share of ”problems” with dealing with other personalities - we are all different after all. But, I personally have read posts where Vulcanel has apologized - Many times over. So, please get over this! Thank you, and... Peace to you. Oh, and PS: I just don’t see Wombat as mean-hearted...EVER!   [End]
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i love you.   [End]
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sounds to me like he chose the right ones to do it to.   [End]
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”What you did to speedy1 was dispicable. What a scumbag you are!!!” Yelrah saw the whole thing... Again, you a very sick person.   [End]
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what makes you think that we have any moderating rights in the iodine debate forum? Get real. As you can see, most of the recent posts there are anti VWT in one form or another! You are a huge waste of time. If you are a sincere, yet confused poster, please back off, take a deep breath, re-group, start over. If you are a troll, well, just keep it up! Have fun! buh-bye!   [End]
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Yeah they sumptin ain’t they. Never have I seen such immaturity at that age. Can you imagine some staff member from Oprah’s show, going there seeking information, about iodine for the women with Breast Cancer ? V has educated himself to the point, that now, he absolutely knows everything there is to know about nothing. He seems to be going through his mid life crisis. So what does he do? He starts a personnel forum, so hundreds of people can watch him. I cringe with embarrassment for him at times. He attracts the ladies though, all three of them, wishy washy VombaT, Cora, and Monica999. ...
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I never pulled up any posts, you’re lying. And I don’t post, then delete. You’re lying again, OR very very confused...   [End]
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Okay, well perhaps you haven’t seen him at his worst, but I can assure you he is getting what he deserves! No offense to you Kill, but this guy has been a real jerk!   [End]
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Look I could be anyone; lots of people follow curezone and you have made lots of enemies around here. Lots of people see the things you post, then delete... Speedy was a nice person who didn’t deserve the things you said about her, especially when you pulled up old posts and made fun of her illness and relationship troubles, that is going too far! You are a really sick person!   [End]
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Look at how long these issues have been going on. It started with Prism ...and has turned into one huge mess. I will not go around bashing anyone, because I know better than that. I have a great deal of respect for Vulcanel. He’s contributed so much to Curezone. It’s like everyone is ganging up on him and attempting to bring him down. I’m just sickened that this problem has been dragged out for so long.   [End]
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I can certainly see why you can’t handle Vulcanel!   [End]
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Again, you’re full of ___it! n/t   [End]
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What exactly are you sickened by? Is it the gross things that V says to people when he feels threatened and afraid?   [End]
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ok, Speedy1. Welcome back! This is a very uninformative testimonial: http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1042866#i SERIOUSLY needs work. How do you expect anyone to learn anything from that? V gave you good advice. AND, BTW, in your last incarnation you stated that you were ”made up”. Anything that I said to you was assuming that your persona is, indeed, ”made up”. So, why would anything said to a ”made up” person hurt your cyber-feelings? Or, are you ”real” this time around?   [End]
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You’re full of ___it!   [End]
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This situation has gone out of control. I can’t believe what’s going on here. I’m sickened and appalled by certain people’s actions. I really hope everyone can put their differences behind them and move on to more positive things.   [End]
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My response to V’s post: http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1042976   [End]
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unsubstantiated accusations. You’re a waste of time.   [End]
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There are several who know what I am referring too; perhaps they will chime in with their 2 cents... As for who I am that is really no matter. Let’s just say I am someone who doesn’t care for the way you and v treat people.... I don’t think it’s very nice to hit below the belt. I also don’t like that you say mean and nasty things and Mods protect you and delete the threads, I find that very irresponsible.   [End]
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Vulcanel gets criticized for running his forum like a nazi, and banning anyone who dares to express an opinion that doesn’t exactly line up with his. Then he turns around and does the exact same things he bans other for on his forum in other forums, only worse. This is called hypocrisy. And that is exactly what he gets criticized for, and justly so. I am glad iodine has served you well, I am also glad Vulcanel brought it to your attention. That doesn’t excuse his atrocious behavoir all over Curezone however. You are not in a position to be objective on this matter, nor do I expect you t ...
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this is excellent advice, given to you by Vulcanel: http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1042924#i   [End]
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Even though you are a newbie here you seem to have some issues with V. Please link me to the threads that support your accusations. Who the hell are you? The very first post of yours I read was suggesting that you would have liked to have a ”dialogue” with me(except, i’m mean, or whatever)... ok, is this a way to start a conversation?   [End]
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...brought us the iodine project. Vulcanel saved my life, and as a result of that a lot more people know about iodine supplementation. Vulcanel has brought some real good to CZ. Seems he gets criticized for the same thing a lot of people do on this site, which is argue. Not only does he argue, he does it well. That really pisses people off, I guess. Fragile egos can’t deal with it. Vulcanel is GOLD.   [End]
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my subject was vulcanel. i havent given two thoughts to MMS. the one thought i have i wont share here.   [End]
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Twapper ,I dont see why you feel threatened by MMS, after all it follows the same conventional medical paradigm as elemental iodine in its allopathic philosophy of the one trick pony miracle cure! Is this some kind of new age drug war going on here? lol!   [End]
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yes, i think we set a real fine example more times than not. thank you.   [End]
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Yep,do as I say not as I do 3 stooges. They sure set a fine example here don’t they?   [End]
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VWT=MLC=NPD the tyranical trio, they attack people all over Curezone then whine like little girls when challenged for there their overzealous bullying! These useless clowns think they own Curezone! Somebody called it NPD narcissistic personality disorder, they must be at the center of attention at all times!   [End]
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Vulcanel acting inappropriately? How shocking! Just another petty tyrant...   [End]
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i dont care if he is negative, as long as it is constructively put on why it is bad to take. if i understand correctly the sodium chlorine doesnt act like normal chlorine or sumthing (does that make sense?).   [End]
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Wombat pretending to be Spdina, who is really pretending to be Speedy? Perhaps I am more than 1, more than 2... Or could I be U? Dun Dun Dun Dunt! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MxvfsKe8dQ   [End]
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I’ve been consumed, and more of same today. Most truths are relative, but one universal one seems to be that it’s difficult for many to agree on much of anything throughout the ages. Finding someone who agrees with one on a regular and consistent basis is a gift, of sorts. It generally means both have arrived at the same conclusions regardless of the path which took them there. I don’t play most videos but if you give a link to those of which you write, I may share sentiments.   [End]
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I wonder who is protecting you?   [End]
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”Only those who have something to fear from open discussion would be against an open discussion. Why are you so worried ?” Now you’re just being silly, we both know that I am interested in learning the truth. Are you playing the projection game with me? Really, as intelligent as you are I am surprised that you would want to continue playing with me. Did you like my video selection? I thought the second one was very hot, don’t you agree?   [End]
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Nobody worries about MMS. As anyone with half a brain knows, it’s worthless, which is why it is illegal to make any therapeutic claims for it. The FDA isn’t ALWAYS wrong. Only those who have something to fear from open discussion would be against an open discussion. Why are you so worried ? My opinion above only agreed with that of another person. Evidently, this distrubs you. I can understand that perhaps, if it were true that you are accustommed to not having anyone agree with you, and when you see others agreeing, it makes you uneasy. Only supporters of MMS should h ...
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Again, if this forum was a bit older that would make sense, but the debate is already happening right inside the support forum and there is simply not enough info out there on the topic! V8, don’t you have better things to do with your time than worry about MMS? For example, make some scar salve?   [End]
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I agree. Having an MMS debate forum is a good idea, to keep the support information separate from the debate information. Such structuring enables folks who only want to see supportive information, to view it without having to expose themselves to debate topics they may not be interested in. That structure works well with other forums, and should be expected to work equally well with MMS. I’m in favor of it too.   [End]
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“If the opposite side of the MMS Miracle is not allowed to be discussed on the support forum then a place where one can do so is needed.” Your so far out of line… 1.You were clearly there to blast me personally, and it was really uncalled for on that forum. 2.I think everyone in that forum is receptive to voices of concern, for example: http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1041640 This poster was welcomed and his/her comments were dealt with in the manner received, which was respectful and courteous. There is no need for a debate forum for MMS because the debate has a ...
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The need for an MMS debate forum has arisen. Misinformation, dangerous information from over zealous amatuer members and biased moderators does not allow this type of misinforamtion to be challenged. MMS seems to be another one of the forums who imitate the allopathic paradigm declaring miracle cures and nurtering the pill popping mentality ingrained in the american boob tube culture of instant gratification, contrary to Curezones motto of ”education not medication” . If the opposite side of the MMS Miracle is not allowed to be discussed on the support forum then a place where one can do ...
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