In my nutritional healing book under hypothyroidism it says : Keep a thermometer by your bed at night and when you awaken in the morning place the thermometer under your arm ad hold it there for 15 minutes. Keep still and quiet. A temperature of 97.6 F or lower may indicate an underactive thyroid. Keep a temp log for 5 days.   [End]
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can anyone explain to me - most pools use chlorine to decontaminate the water, and maintain a ph of 7.2 - 7.6. but most bacteria thrive in that ph range, so how then does the chlorine kill the bacteria? its interesting to note that as the ph creeps above 8 the efficiecny of the chlorine’s bacteria fighting powers drops. you must use 2 or 3 times the chlorine to keep the pool free of bacteria at ph levels of above 8. so chlorine is most efficient as killing bacteria at a ph of about 7.5, which - interestingly enough - just happens to be the overall ph of a healthy body. so, what i ...
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Answer one.....and a dozen to translate it into their dialects.   [End]
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No. But, I counted 25 MD’s & PhDs on that article. Must be chock-full of brilliant stuff.   [End]
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I would have to say that my diet was most probably iodine deficient as I never used salt. This business of dropping temps has me a little concerned though......we shall see if I go further with it.....   [End]
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Does the Chinese language have articles?   [End]
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iodine content of kelp too low   [End]
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Q: How many chinese authors does it take to write an article ?   [End]
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I think initially, look at your diet over the years... If it had less than 200 mcg of iodine a day in it, and just as importantly, if your mother’s diet was\is deficient, I would think about adding iodine rich foods into the diet and see how you react. If it is favorable, maybe up the dose some with more kelp or what have you.   [End]
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What do you folks think is the ideal test to find out if one is truly iodine deficient. I have little faith in plasma and that coat the stomach test seems a little to out there.......hmmmn.   [End]
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I have thought about this as well... I suspect there could be a glandular regulatory affect that may take a while to normalize, especially in the event that the ”patient” has been eating a deficient diet for a prolonged period of time. Kind of like starting a cold engine... and then an old engine; have to blow all the old carbon (bromide, fluoride, chloride) out.   [End]
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http://content.nejm.org/cgi/content/short/354/26/2783 It seems that this whole iodine question sure gives rise to a lot of controversy. I for one have just noticed that after 6 weeks on Kelp that my body temp is down.....which according to Broda Barnes....proves the point of this article.   [End]
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Hmmm... Near as I can tell, you are not banned from that forum. =-John-=   [End]
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Fulcanelli never dies.   [End]
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Your moderator has locked me out from posting in the acid/alkaline discussion forum. Good luck to you.   [End]
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I understand, and thank you so much. I kind of had the same idea, but didn’t know how to do the amounts. Pool stores are a poor source of info, I have tried. The stuff they sell is kind of designed to wear things out, so they can sell you parts. They have no idea what the stuff they sell is going to do to you. When I buy from them I always tell them that I would like to buy some hazerdous materials to soak my body in. Thank you for the info I was looking for.   [End]
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can I joke a little now and then ?   [End]
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Is that where you get your salvinorin from ?   [End]
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Yes, and Hoxsey’s cancer cures contained high levels of tri-iodide. The connection between low incidences of cancer and high iodide intake is real. Morris Fishbein tried to shut Hoxsey down, just as Fishbein had done to Royal Rife. But, Hoxsey won in court. Fishbein was later thrown out of the AMA for fraud.   [End]
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According to my calculation,   [End]
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Interesting that Sheep Sorrel and Turkey Rhubarb in Essiac tea both contain iodine...   [End]
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Sorry, I’m using a little chlorine in the tub now 1 teaspoon after I get out. I read yesterday that chlorine can leach out the iodine. I tried bromine, but the same thing, plus it causes me to itch. So I’m looking for something for the tub to kill bacteria, that won’t ruin the tub. Their is copper products, but dangerous to the trees when I drain it. I live in the country and have a septic tank, can’t put it there. My hot tub is one of the few vices I have left, and don’t really want to give it up. I’m 66 and tried for many years to destroy my body with skydiving (old round chutes), and sn ...
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Good question !   [End]
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Yes I read that one sometime back. But the question is WHY has the US being doing this to its citizens for the past 55 odd years and continues doing so??? Thank heavens the germans stopped doing this when the war ended. Now they sell salt with iodine added to it.   [End]
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Thanks alot for those links you sent yesterday.   [End]
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This was no accident. http://www.newswithviews.com/Devvy/kidd102.htm   [End]
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So I put a spot of iodine on my belly last night. gone this am. just rubbed it with peroxide, came back faintly. I do grind up sea veggies in my orange juice in the am. suspect im losing it in my hot tub. what can i use in my tub, that won’t corrode the pump? thinking about a gallon of silver???? tub has 170 gallons. tub has ultra violet light, and water is pumped through it 24-7.   [End]
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Look at the coherent George W. when he was governor of Texas as compared to now... these signs are everywhere. As disconcerting as your post was this made me laugh... ”it was like watching film from another planet - the one i came from originally. ordinary folks, with brains, with lives of their own, with the ability to communicate without drama.” I have six ear piercings from the late 60’s and 70’s... and wore 10 inch feathers in them... I used to get asked where I was from and I would answer ”not this planet”. I have since let them close up... I have not tried to put anything ...
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party pooper. of course. either way, it needs to be corrected. johns swipe at temp-man was not egregious and certainly not unwarranted.   [End]
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i think the banks will even cash it for you if you want.   [End]
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watching an old documentary on the donneley(is that right?) quints and i was enthralled listening to and watching ordinary people discuss and describe the things they had experienced or observed. this was filmed in the late fifties or early sixties. oh. my. god. the clarity. the awareness. the light in the eyes. the calm. the assuredness. it was disconcerting and comforting all at once. it was like watching film from another planet - the one i came from originally. ordinary folks, with brains, with lives of their own, with the ability to communicate without drama. it became ...
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very interesting,iodine might be used in some form in the future for spinal injuries to help millions of people.   [End]
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if you want a plant, check out george noory.   [End]
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I am finding the papers on brain function and iodine’s role, in some cases with the thyroid hormones absolutely fascinating. We would most likely not need shrinks, or psychotropic drugs...   [End]
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or simple inadvertent error.   [End]
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I consider your statement as fact.   [End]
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i asked for help in retrieving it. i believe you posted on that thread, too. abuse of power big time.   [End]
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you are right.... to say what you think, that is! lol   [End]
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Please re-post , if not too much trouble.   [End]
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i like firing doctors, especially dentists.   [End]
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Nice. That is more evidence that supports our newly-postulated pathology of Halogen Imbalance Syndrome, or ”HIS” for short.   [End]
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The thyroid gland uses iodine to make thyroid hormone. We know the thyroid gland appeared in evolution at the same time as back bones (vertebrates). Radioactive iodine injected into patients shows a full outline of the bones on a total body scan. This means one of the places iodine goes to immediately is bones. Thyroid hormone makes bones grow, mature and remodel, when necessary. Together thyroid hormone, iodine and growth hormone maintain a healthy bone structure. As vertebrates (animals with backbones) are the only animals with thyroid glands it makes sense that iodine and thyroid contro ...
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Good, then you have my opinion. Opinions are neither right nor wrong and any opinion I express should not be construed as fact. I often do not agree with what appears here but I do agree that people have a right to this expression. Article 19 Human Rights Charter, United Nations: ”Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers.”   [End]
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”what a circus.” And it is much more than ”three rings” doing a VERY good job of keeping the people as a whole befuddled\confused. Throw in a little soap opera, a little talk show, a little daily nonsensical, superfluous news, and a reality show or two... numb, brain dead, whatever. I am beginning to think that Ellen, Oprah, Dr. Phil etc. are plants...   [End]
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if you eat a bunch of cilantro and do a urine test, you will find mercury, if you have it.   [End]
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i certainly do. i just wanted you to be the one to say it. just getting a witness there, V ol buddy.   [End]
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the kinds of insanity this population will accept just floors me. that prosecutor in the duke rape case, for example. i doubt he sees any jail time, and that is a crime. yet they go after a guy who was involved 40 years ago in killing those two young men in the south. they should go after him if they can, but the press conferences? gonzales’ involvement? this is frickin news? that will show those guys pulling that crap now that they will pay, eh? what a circus.   [End]
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Now you went and did it... to quote trapper, dam* bastards!   [End]
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It is propaganda. It goes counter to the data presented in that double-blind, randomized study by the 3 MD’s that study you downloaded to CZ this week, doesn’t it ? They don’t want the info to come out that high dose levels of iodine are not only safe, but necessary. One reason is that it goes against what they’ve said in the past, which would make them lose credibility. Secondly, orthoiodosupplementation, if effected en masse, would cause fewer people to be ill, thus robbing the medico-fascists of the source of their continiued ill-gotten gains.   [End]
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Smart. That might save your life someday. Let’s pray it never gets to that though.   [End]
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carry it in my wallet just in case something like Chernobyl might happen.   [End]
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nice postings by you below !   [End]
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thank you, tom. an interesting read. hey, V, what is your opinion of this paragraph? ”As established by the National Research Council’s Food and Nutrition Board, the revised 1989 Recommended Dietary Allowance (RDA) for iodine is 40 mcg for infants, increasing to 150 mcg for adults and children age 11 and older. The RDA for pregnant and lactating women increases to 175 and 200 mcg respectively. Harrison’s Principles of Internal Medicine reports that average U.S. iodine daily intake ranges from approximately 0.5–1.0 mg. According to the Merck Manual of Diagnosis and Therapy, less th ...
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http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=820857#i Glad you picked up on that, I think it’s valuable.   [End]
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T. C. McDaniel, MD Cincinnati, Ohio   [End]
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god tempts no one.   [End]
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here is a little more from that page... http://www.iodine4health.com/overviews/clinicians/west_clinician.htm ”Our environment is now loaded with the toxic halides bromine and fluorine. Up until now we have had no way to detoxify the body of these thyroid poisons. Iodine Therapy now provides a protocol to accomplish what we have desired for years. And as an added bonus, there is additional detoxification of mercury and lead.” ”People with heart arrhythmias, heart disease, ovary disease, breast disease, menopausal problems and hot flashes, muscle wasting, hypo- and hyperthyr ...
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So then I wonder if I use a lot of natural chelating foods/supplements then might something show up in the test?   [End]
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i love the book of job. i wouldnt say that god and satan are buds, but god gives him the time of day, and treats him the way He wants to be treated - as we all should.   [End]
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I remember reading one of your posts where you mentioned a man(doctor?) who was curing disease using knowledge of zeta potential, can you give his name again, would like to read more.. thanks   [End]
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i dont know if i can handle any more of this. the docs almost killed my dad injecting an iodine substance in his heart for ”tests”. now he thinks he is allergic to iodine. how do i get through to a guy so deadened in his brain? a beautiful country boy with a seventh grade education? now you know the monsters i seek to slay.   [End]
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calcium blocks pain as well. that would be more pronounced, as grz may well attest. my dad is hooked on coral calcium for that very reason.   [End]
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found this read interesting... in fact the implications on brain, heart, lung, liver, etc. problems due to an iodine deficiency seem to explain a lot. http://www.iodine4health.com/overviews/clinicians/west_clinician.htm ”Amazingly, while medicine shuns iodine therapy, their most popular anti-fibrillation drug, Amiodarone, actually is iodine in a toxic, sustained-release form. This drug can produce a smooth heartbeat when the body has accumulated about 1,500 mgs of iodine—the exact amount of iodine retained by your body when iodine fulfillment is achieved by natural supplementat ...
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my mind has a clarity that makes empathy and compasion, well, not harder, but more of a conscious choice. it is becoming harder for me to understand how people can allow the fog they wonder blindly in. no, thats not right. i understand it, i am having a real hard time accepting it as ”thats just the way things are”. people deserve better. they deserve not to have their faculties sabotaged.   [End]
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lord kelvin was old school. when it comes to making a paint with certain properties, yes. when it comes to health and biology, it is too synergistic with too many variables for this to apply. look at the pharms. they only play percentages. someone always gets hurt. none is 100% helpful, or even harmless.   [End]
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they go hand in hand in order to keep up appearances.   [End]
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Could explain the ”turn up” of a lot of things... including the anti-lawsuit laws, codex, etc. etc.   [End]
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thank you.   [End]
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And for some reason, while switching everything iodine-related over from the Alkaline/Acid balance forum, my post pointing out the warnings from the same place about Calcium Hydroxide were removed entirely. Oh, the shame of it all.   [End]
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which makes the chemtrails make more sense. ”POOR THE COALS TO THEM! TURN THE FUNACES UP SEVENTY TIMES!” i noticed when goat boy was here to roundtable healthcare, the skies were clear and gorgeous, the sun brighter than it has been in over a year. the sun is really acting up now. comet mcnaught has sown its wild oats. should be a hot time in the old town this year.   [End]
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I was thinking and reading more on this over the last several days and I think ”they” are way behind schedule... underestimating the adaptability card.   [End]
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that’s funny!   [End]
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from radiation   [End]
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Yes, and some of my writings from yesterday have disappeared as well. I have since reduced other information I have used in efffecting various cures down on paper. I just wadded many of these up and threw them into my trash can. It is much more efficient this way, rather than to type it into a computer and then watch it disappear later. CZ has a selective memory it seems. That increases my reluctance to participate, which is just what satan wants.   [End]
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sad but true,if man would get his hand out of everything it would heal itself,god made this place very remarkable,but we know what man wiil do!   [End]
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There is a floating trash dump in the Pacific ocean the size of the African continent several (3 I think) meters deep. Beaches are coated with sun degraded bits of plastic all the time, specifically in the Pacific, the north coasts of the Hawaiian Islands. If the fish, plants and other animals for that matter, are so polluted that they are all now questionable to eat... just how polluted are we? Pretty bad I would say.   [End]
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where talking about the ocean water as a whole,i know some parts are bad,but i would think as vast as the oceans are they in general are good,but deffinitely not as good as a 100 yrs ago or a 1000 for that matter,if left alone for some period of time they should be able to repair themselvesand we know that probably won’t happen.   [End]
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if you don’t mind,go to the acid alkali debate forum and at the top of the page click last message and see if it directs you also to the iodine discussion forum,strange.   [End]
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answer depends on the quality of the water, the composition of the salt, and your definition of sanatizing.   [End]
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  dear friends, a few years ago when i was in trouble through an heart infarction plus hypertension i put ’salt’ on google search and found my way onto ’curezone’. i learnt a great deal from that day. when i read up on the ’salt cure’ i discovered to my surprise the many people in the usa had a big problem with iodine deficiency, and read that ’table salt’ was the main culprit, plus diet. well it seems to still be there. i being a layperson don’t for one moment have the ’answer’ but have read much about it. this w/s i forward to you just might have someof the answers, plus the "s ...
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as is many animals on land,man is his own worste enemy! isn’t in general salt water very sanatizing?   [End]
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good point !   [End]
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lol,it also may have been god speaking of satan and some things he does,god also wiggles into you mind,hopefuly always welcome.   [End]
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I don’t know. I do know that the machines are not exposed to the oceans. I also know that many species of fish are disappearing from the oceans.   [End]
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I did not introduce satan into the conversation ! Thus, it is not my doing. See how he wiggles into your mind ? Through you, he has entered this discussion forum. satan has entered here, to confuse and obfuscate. I’m honored, that he finds a need to visit; we must be on to doing something REALLY good here !!!!!   [End]
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but by attacking satan,one of gods creations,you are not attacking god,we are off subject,see what you did,lol.   [End]
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do you not think the same could go to idoral and lugol’s,there possibly only as clean as the machines processing them,is there a part of kelp that i should know about that is not good to consume other than possible contaminents which are in all aspects of life including the air we breathe,thanks for the response,i’m just trying to learn as we all are.   [End]
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satan serves a useful purpose - he helps the Lord separate the good from the bad, among other things. In reality, satan works for the Lord, even though he may not realize it. Similarly, those who promote kelp tablets on other forums actually are working for us in helping treat Halogen Imbalance Syndrome (”HIS”), even though they themselves don’t realize it !   [End]
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lol,come on now,that’s taking it a little far,you do know he in my mind also created satan and i will always attack him. i agree with you about all the attack stuff,it takes two to have an argument,if only one person was arguing people would think something was wrong with that person talking to himself,i do like reading and evaluating all opinions,but when they turn to attack,it weakens the point.   [End]
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Probably. When I mow my lawn, the grass clippings are natural and organic, provided I didn’t spray my yard with pesticides. To the extent that the ocean is not polluted, then eating seaweed is fine. I never much had a desire to grab a handful of seaweed and eat it myself, but, to each his own. I’m not convinced that the oceans are clean. Evidence seems to point otherwise. I read last week that there was an oil tanker leaking off the British coast somewhere. fish are known to accumulate mercury from the oceans. Given a choice, I personally prefer a purified form of the a ...
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if its grown naturaly as kelp, is it not natural and organic,for instance say i go to the ocean get a handfull of seaweed and eat it,is the iodine in the kelp not natural and organic no matter what the scientific name? just a thought,as usual i could be wrong.   [End]
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I am not surprised by your response at all. Most people are severely deficient in iodine.   [End]
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”My bet is that if a person gets their halides into balance, that their own bodies would take care of the pH balancing, provided they are eating reasonably well.” Is this comment based upon the glandular\hormonal balance possible when the body is in halide balance? I am finding the halide issue\reading in total rather fascinating. I find myself getting a little angry about things too, but try to keep that feeling at bay... I upped my kelp intake once again over the last few days and have had noticeable reduction in joint pain and swelling (knees primarily). I also seemed to have ...
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Watch out for the habitually-negative, and cripple-minded ones who will attack this new forum. That’s why I left.   [End]
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My bet is that if a person gets their halides into balance, that their own bodies would take care of the pH balancing, provided they are eating reasonably well. Remember, iodine is an extract of kelp, just as echinacea root extract comes from the purple conflower, or oxytocin is an extract of claviceps, or hemp oil is and extract of hemp, or honey is the extract of a beehive. In nature, the concentration of the active ingredient can vary substantially. With kelp tablets, unless you have an actual analysis of the lot, you do not know the amount that is in the tablets. Compare this ...
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dear friends, a few years ago when i was in trouble through an heart infarction plus hypertension i put ’salt’ on google search and found my way onto ’curezone’. i learnt a great deal from that day. when i read up on the ’salt cure’ i discovered to my surprise the many people in the usa had a big problem with iodine deficiency, and read that ’table salt’ was the main culprit, plus diet. well it seems to still be there. i being a layperson don’t for one moment have the ’answer’ but have read much about it. this w/s i forward to you just might have someof the answers, plus the "salt cur ...
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http://www.salviasupply.com/store/ayahuasca.html (Not sure if you are joking or not, but the above link might be of use...)   [End]
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i’m a quick study.   [End]
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