Hi everyone, I haven’t been on this forum in about 4 or 5 months. I see some of the familiar names, and some new ones, on the most recent discussion page. I dropped in to say that my lips are 99% better / cured. They have gotten better very, very slowly. They got bad about a year ago, and I started searching for answers. I am in my 40’s, calm and mainly healthy overall, and nothing like this had happened before to me. Before I got cheilitis, I already was following a healthy mainly-vegetarian diet, taking good levels of supplements, avoiding chemicals, etc. I’ve continu ...
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Hi Emma, As someone who has been a member 9 hours total, maybe you want to lurk a while -- unless you actually have been a member here for 3 years under assumed names. :-)   [End]
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Here is a good place to start if you are looking for summaries of the useful information on this forum: http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1553114#i   [End]
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”i can tell now whether i’ve had an allergic reaction to something (both upper & lower lips are uniformly affected), versus an autoimmune response or EC (mainly my lower lip is affected). interesting stuff, eh?” Seattle, I have also noticed a difference in my lips’ reaction to various substances, which I described 3 days ago in my post on Lipshitz’ thread about the 4 Horsemen of the Apocalypse. In my case, it’s only my lower lip that is affected, but the way the lip skin behaves, looks and feels, and the timeline of the flare-up (beginning to end), is different for each substance t ...
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Don’t pay them (she of the multiple personalities) any attention, Uklad. You are right, of course. --------- (It’s weird that your thread says there are 10 posts, but only 4 showed up when I clicked on it!)   [End]
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Hormones definitely affect the skin. They are known to be related to cheilitis. For example, hypothyroidism, which is not having enough available thyroid hormone in your body, is often mentioned as a cause of cheilitis.   [End]
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At least there is one logical person on here -- all the others seem to be as befuddled as she is.   [End]
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You don’t have time to read my post, but you spend hours a day on here. That’s weird. You don’t feel like proving what you said, so you are just going to move on, huh? You are entirely wrong in what you said - I have never said anything of the kind, and you were putting lies into my mouth. You should be really embarrassed as to how you claim things, and then you are found out to be wrong. You don’t even try to prove what you claim. So you are lazy, as well as spiteful.   [End]
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badlips: ”Well, awhile ago you wrote that you hoped the acidophilus cure would not work for others.” I NEVER wrote this, and I insist that you PROVE it by showing the link to it where I ever said this on the forum, or otherwise you must admit that you often lie and make stuff up. Prove it. -- Badlips: ”I do not know of anyone who healed their lips with EO soap besides you. I know your EC was caused by an allergy, but you wrote the EC soap helped to heal your lips after you avoided the allergant.” I NEVER said that EO soap was a cure for me. In fact, I said it was not a cure ...
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Horsie, you win the February prize for the least English-as-a-second-language-friendly thread title! ;-) --- Regarding the way that cheilitis exhibits itself and changes over time, I have found that the three things (so far) that cause my lips to flare up each have a different effect on my lip skin. Back when I was using all 3 things at once (and didn’t realize they were causing me trouble), my lips were really bad, but my lips would go through different ”looks” and changes (kind of like your description of having a fever/illness). At that time, there wasn’t any pattern that I c ...
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I never said that your acidophilus ”cure” wouldn’t work. I am just fascinated that it actually has NOT worked for anyone else here who has tried it, other than you.   [End]
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C, the term is ”fobbed off”.   [End]
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”There is no excuse for others acting crazy on this forum.” I’m so glad you think so.   [End]
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Many people with cheilitis control their symptoms by using vaseline and exfoliation. Check the last 5 years of the forum - it’s a common method. == That’s not to say that it wasn’t good of you to post your story yesterday - this forum could use more earnest participants with different experiences and points of view. == I used vaseline for 20+ years and loved it, but I stopped last year when I realized it was only harming my lips in the long run, because it doesn’t allow the skin to breathe. It’s made from crude oil, and the more I read about it, the more I didn’t want to use it. ...
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If you would consider a ”cure” to be the ending of one’s cheilitis - [which is certainly the definition of a cure as far as I am aware] - all the medical articles that talk about finding out what substance a cheilitis patient was having an allergic reaction to, and having that patient stop his/her contact with that substance so that his/her cheilitis goes away, are ALSO ’cure claims’. I have found out several substances that cause my cheilitis. When I avoid them entirely, my cheilitis goes away. Am I cured? Do you consider my story to be relevant to any cheilitis sufferers? ...
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did you actually mean to type ”did cure me” or did you mean to type ”did NOT cure me”? if it did cure you, you don’t sound very excited about it.   [End]
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I understand what probiotics are for. I don’t agree that most cheilitis sufferers have an internal deficiency. Did a medical practitioner tell you that? Have you actually tried the acidophilus liquid in the manner that badlips indicated? I see in your list of posts that you have gone for years thinking that you have internal toxicity, and that you announced last year that you quit your job to concentrate full time on detoxifying. It sounds like maybe the detoxing hasn’t worked. You might want to look at other typical causes of cheilitis, particularly an allergic reaction or c ...
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raisin, your long post talking about your cheilitis story is hidden to everyone because it appears at the end of this long thread. i promise you that with 90% of the forum members here, when they see a thread that mainly has ”wgb” and ”badlips” going back and forth, they will avoid reading it entirely! therefore, if you want to introduce yourself to people here, start your own new thread to say ’hi’, and cut and paste your story into it.   [End]
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I have said several times on this forum that I do not have health insurance and I can’t afford to go to a doctor. I can’t afford to get pre-existing conditions on my record, either, which would harm my future health coverage. And, I do not need a doctor to tell me I’m allergic to something that I can see for myself that I am allergic to. There is no medicine for allergy to a vegetable - you simply avoid the vegetable. Therefore, a doctor could not help me with this.   [End]
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I don’t think that I am allergic to tea tree oil, so the EO soap is not a problem for me.   [End]
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You promised that you would post a photo. Then you said that you did post a photo. Then you said it mysteriously disappeared. Then you said you’d try again. Then you said you were too busy. Then you said that your photo was too fuzzy. Now you are saying that you need people to be understanding as to why you can’t post a photo. That’s totally fine if you don’t want to post a photo - but you shouldn’t have led people down the garden path with the odd excuses in the first place. You should have said in the beginning that you didn’t want to put a photo up. Say what you mean, mean ...
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There have been several cures claimed - you will see them if you read through this forum. You need to do a search and really utilize the wealth of material that is here. I mentioned several of the claimed cures in a post, in which I copied and pasted their weblinks, I wrote a couple of months ago. One of the claimed cures was from L-Lysine. Another claimed cure was from washing with dishwashing soap. A cure doesn’t have to work for everybody to be a cure. Cheilitis is from many, many different causes, so there will be many types of cures. Finding out what you are having an all ...
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You did harass me, to the point of butting in several times on a thread that was specifically addressed to me. Further, you told me my advice was wrong, you told me I was using terminology incorrectly (yet you didn’t give proof of your position), and of course you pounded the entire forum with your constant, repetitive postings. (That is what someone else here meant when he recently said that you were ”banging on” about acidophilus.) The only reason someone deletes posts is because they are either embarrassed for the information to be public, or what they said was incorrect. You have ...
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I think that this has been done before on this forum - use the search box to look for similar threads from the past. Also, lipshitz/c.s. has a page for this on his site.   [End]
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This article lists many causes of allergic cheilitis. Garlic is one of the biggies. ** Also, for you smokers - cigarette paper is noted as one of the causes of allergic cheilitis! ** The most interesting bit for me was: ”It is not uncommon to have more than one factor contributing to cheilitis (for example, atopic diathesis and allergy, or allergic and irritant dermatitis). Notably, just over one-third of patients with allergic cheilitis also had another condition contributing to their dermatitis.” =============== The following is from Article Title: Patch-Testing Lip D ...
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This message is to everyone BUT badlips -- since we know what she thinks of acidophilus already. To all those other forum members who tried acidophilus after badlips touted it -- how did your acidophilus trials go? Badlips first posted about acidophilus about 25 days ago, and she wrote then that it had healed her lips only a few days after she first started using it. I think that she said it took a week (at most) until her lips were entirely normal and cured, and that her lips continued to remain entirely cured, even though she stopped using the acidophilus weeks ago. (She has n ...
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I am a thousand million times certain that my friend had nothing to do with my lip reaction.   [End]
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I’ve never mentioned going to any allergist, so I’m not sure what badlips was going on about in the post above. I have no plans to see an allergist.   [End]
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89509, thank you, you are so kind. [and an astute observer, ha ;-) ] -- I will definitely do some testing by cutting up more raw veggies (only testing one per day, so I can make sure to test them in isolation), but I want to wait until my lips have healed a bit. If I tested now on my scrufty-looking lips (they are still scrufty and peeling from the stir-fry night sudden explosion), it would be hard to tell if there was any new reaction on top of the old reaction. I do think it’s probably the garlic. I cook with onion at least twice a week, and I’ve cooked with onion several ...
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hi raisinlips, sorry to hear about your tea tree oil reaction - it is known as a cause of cheilitis and has been mentioned in some research reports. 7% of the population is allergic to tea tree oil, apparently. the good thing is that it’s a pretty easy substance to avoid. i hope that you heal soon. ---- you asked: can reactions really manifest in flaking so soon? YES ie is there a given possibility that something triggered this before and unrelated to the preperation of the veggies? NO Did you hug your friend on meeting,give each other a peck on the cheek? NO ...
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Due to the way the forum handles ”nesting” of posts, this post looks like it is floating in outer space on the forum page. It’s actually a response to a Badlips post which is about 10 entries above, visually. ---------------- Goodness no, I don’t want photos of your lips. I wouldn’t look at it even if one were available. In fact, I avoid the image gallery here, and I have said so several times. I’ve only ever been on the image gallery 3 times since August 2009. Last time was to look at Kid 8’s picture, around New Year’s. My post that you refer to, the one where I asked you ...
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As I explained very clearly, I had not yet cooked the food when I had the lip reaction. (note: badlips had written something above about what sort of metal cooking pot did i use when i cooked the stir-fry and maybe the metal had caused my cheilitis to flare up -- that’s why i wrote this post, to answer her question. she has since deleted what she wrote above.)   [End]
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I am also allergic to shellfish, and last year my lips started reacting instantly to lipsticks containing shimmery materials, which I then found out is often composed of ground-up shellfish shells. They became red, swollen, and uncomfortable. I stopped using lipsticks entirely, but last week I bought some organic ones for when my lips get better (which should be soon, because I am doing a good job of avoiding the substances that cause my cheilitis). They have no ground-up shellfish in them. They are made by Peacekeeper and can be bought on the peacekeeper website as well as drugstor ...
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As a psychology bachelor’s degree holder myself, I can say that being skeptical of others, especially those who proclaim more and more loudly and frequently their beliefs without showing medical or pictorial proof, has nothing to do with any psychological deficiences or anxieties.   [End]
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spiffy, if you were implying that i was attacking anyone, i wasn’t. in fact, i was just trying to help ”helpful” people to do something that would help them in their quest to help people.   [End]
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I have not logged in to this forum in about a week, because it was being temporarily dominated by illogical, strident voices which had no interest in open-minded discussion. I don’t mind anyway - hopefully my time here is drawing to a close. This place (mainly the historical threads from one to five years ago) gave me some good information a few months ago when I needed it, and I did my best to compile and post some accurate, sound, research-based information that I hope will help cheilitis sufferers who turn to this forum in the future (such as this triple-R ”RRR” recommended-by-mod ...
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Are there still no photos, but she spends hours daily following the forum and making posts? That’s kind of odd.   [End]
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This kind of language is unacceptable.   [End]
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Please show me one medical textbook or doctor’s opinion saying that: 1. There is a type of cheilitis called ”regular cheilitis” and it is different than ”exfoliative cheilitis”. 2. That the condition of ”exfoliative cheilitis” does NOT have allergies or vitamin deficiencies as causes. I can show you 10 sources that say that exfoliative cheilitis has allergies and vitamin deficiences as potential causes. You are just making up this so-called medical information you are spouting. That is irresponsible.   [End]
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Do you have any medical sources for your assertions? Doctors? Research studies? Medical textbooks? ”99% of the time” people develop a skin condition when they eat fast food? Where did you get that percentage? Do any of you have any proof that you have ”bad bacteria”? Surely some of you have doctors and have had tests done. Let alone proof that ”bad bacteria” are causing your lips to exfoliate. Many of you guys are engaging in magical thinking. I’m afraid just believing something doesn’t make it a fact.   [End]
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Badlips, the alien post was a joke, and for God’s sake, if people on here can’t lighten up a bit, they need to take a breather. The fact that you’ve had a condition for 20 years is not a badge of honor - it shows that you haven’t been able to solve it in all that time, that is all. It doesn’t make you an expert, nor a doctor. Your opinion is not any more important or valid than anyone else’s opinion on here. You don’t have proof of your cure, either, like photographs of your before and after, or anybody else for whom your treatment has worked. Is there anyone else at all for wh ...
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”If people do not follow my instructions, they will not be cured.” -Badlips This is a really off-the-mark, untrue statement - obviously you have some kind of problem and are way too self-regarding than is reasonable. There are many people with cheilitis who do not have ”bad bacteria” and do not need acidophilus liquid to cure their lips. I would urge everyone to check with their doctors or dentists about Badlips’ various assertions -- it’s always good to get a reality check when you are self-treating. Anyway, the real reality check will come in about a week - either a bunch of ...
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Jasman, I would try the glycerin. There is no downside to trying it -- it’s cheap, easy to get, and harmless. It will only help your lips. I think it’s much better than a cream to use after the soap.   [End]
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There is no ”regular cheilitis”. Exfoliative cheilitis is a form of cheilitis. Ask your doctor if this is not so. I also have exfoliative cheilitis. ---- For someone trained as a medical researcher, you make some leaps of logic and unsupported assertions. You also get some facts wrong. Some readers of this forum are ready to believe anything they read, so I don’t think it’s responsible for any of us to be throwing out conjectures as facts. It’s not just I who have pointed this out here.   [End]
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What exactly is your data source to show that ”most people with cheilitis” have an upper lip raw triangle? Is it the handful of people on this forum who have said that they have, in comparison to the thousands of people in the world with cheilitis who have never even heard of this forum? Badlips, you are making so many health and medical claims from your own imagination, though some are perhaps from your own personal experience (which is not the entirety of all cheilitis knowledge in the world), and some of your claims seem to be beyond your level of medical training, and maybe now tha ...
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”Oh, the humanity”... hmm... Well, I’ve seen three different news stories on BBC online in the last 2 days about how respected astronomers think that there is alien life out there in the universe, and that probably there is even alien life living on Earth now, So maybe... maybe the dreaded raw upper lip triangle has nothing to do with ”humanity” and instead is simply an indication that the bearer of such a mark is an ALIEN! ;-) Is this forum really a secret way for you guys to get messages to each other? In the alien code book, does the phrase ”liquid Acidophilus” really mean ...
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I think that ”misplaced” is not a good synonym for ”ectopic” in this case, because 75% of people are born with Fordyce Spots in their lips and genital area, so it doesn’t make sense that they are misplaced - where should they be placed? They are called ectopic because they occur where they are not expected -- but, whose expectations are they not conforming to? I would suggest that the physicians/biologists/etc. who named them ”ectopic” were just surprised to see them showing up where they were showing up, because they hadn’t expected oil glands to be in the lips and genital area. If 75% ...
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As must be clear by now, I disagree with Badlips about this, and I think washing the lips 4 times a day and swishing the mouth with acidophilus once a day are not incompatible. In fact, I hope everyone washes their lips at least twice a day, when they are washing their face morning and night, even if they don’t use a different soap than they are using on the rest of their faces. I’m sure your doctor would agree. And not everyone has a raw area on his/her upper lip. I don’t, even though my bottom lip has had cheilitis for over a year. But the proof is in the pudding, and if acido ...
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Hi Jas, Yes, that is the stuff. It’s hilarious that they say ominously ”this is a medicine” and ”you have to be home to sign for it”, as if it’s oxycontin or something that anyone other than the purchaser would use for nefarious ends. Must be some kind of EU health and safety regulation. This stuff is one of the most common ingredients around, in foods, in personal products. You can even cook with it, as a low-cal sweetener. This might be a reference before your time, but when I use Glycerin, I think of the Bush (Gavin Rossdale) song ”Glycerine” from my ”slacker” days in the ...
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The vast majority of people with cheilitis do not have cancer and will never get get lip cancer. However, cancer can be a cause of cheilitis. The term ”actinic cheilitis” describes a cancer of the lip. I ran across some definitions tonight that I’d like folks to be aware of, especially those of us who have not yet been able to see a doctor about our lips. I’m not out to scare anyone, but if you have a long-term lip disease/condition that is not going away after you’ve tried all the normal treatments, you’ll want to rule out the possibility that it’s cancerous. --- A. What ...
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You are describing fordyce spots. I have never used Protopic. The Fordyce spots on my lips just exploded out of nowhere about 2 months ago, after I’d had cheilitis already for about 11 months. I have no idea if they are simply a symptom in the progression of cheilitis, and if it was natural for them not to show up for many months and then suddenly to seem to be all over the place in my lips, or whether something I did in the autumn (some product I used, some vitamin that I did or didn’t take, etc.) caused them to form in my lips. Mine are pretty noticeable now. Tonight they are ...
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Hi Jas, Just to make sure, did you get the EO with mint and tea tree? They have different varieties, but I think the mint and tea tree version would probably be best for the lips. It’s got aloe vera, tea, calendula, and coconut oil besides the tea tree and mint, all of which are healing substances. But if you got a different variety of EO soap, that’s okay - it should have beneficial ingredients too. This is what I do -- When: After brushing my teeth (morning and evening) and anytime after eating (any meal or snack where the food or liquid gets on my lips), I wash my lips ...
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I don’t think that my cheilitis is caused by ”bad bacteria”. My cheilitis seems to be caused by a swift, negative reaction my body began to have last year to certain external substances, such as alpha hydroxy acids in my face lotions and one or more of the chemicals in Boots’ antibacterial ointment. When I eliminate those products from my life, I don’t have active cheilitis. However, it takes a couple of weeks after an exposure to one of those products for my lips to heal from the incident. I was accidentally exposed to the Boots cream about 6 days ago, and I’m now undergoing exfol ...
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Ich1, It is very informative and helpful to the readers here, especially the lurkers and the people who will first visit this site in the future, to read stories where someone’s cheilitis was cleared up, and to know the cause of it. Thanks for taking the time to post. We don’t often get to hear stories like yours, because the many people who have cheilitis and who solve it by following the typical first steps to eliminating it that are suggested by doctors (such as stopping using certain toothpastes or mouthwashes) never end up finding this forum and staying on it, trying everything ...
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Hi Bungle, Yes, I think you are damaging your lips further each time you apply the lemon juice. Lemon, lime, orange, and grapefruit juices contain citric acid, which is a pretty corrosive acid. It exfoliates and eats into things like teeth and skin. Because they break down the bonds between skin cells, these juices are used on their own as natural face astringents (applied with a cotton ball), and they can be part of the recipes of commercial facial astringents/lotions as well. Citrus juices, oils and acids can actually cause lips to develop cheilitis, and they cause teeth to l ...
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In mid-December, I figured out that my cheilitis was being caused by at least 2 things, AHAs in my face products, and Boots antibacterial cream with tea tree oil. When I began to avoid them, my lips got much better and were healing up nicely. Then, in late December I accidentally used the AHA lotion one day, and the cheilitis came back with a vengeance. I made sure to avoid it after that, and my lips began to get better again, although the healing was about twice as slow as before. This slower healing may have been due to the extreme weather we were having around then and the severely ...
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spiffy, 3 days ago i posted a link where the liquid is on sale for $6.50: http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1557171#i   [End]
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my spots don’t stick out like a pimple, except for a couple of little ones on my top lip that stick out a teeny bit when i stretch the upper lip taut. once in the past i tried to squeeze one of those, the ones that stuck out just a bit, and a tiny bit of something came out of it but didn’t get rid of it. i didn’t try to squeeze any more in my upper lip. you can’t see them even from a foot away if i don’t stretch my upper lip, which doesn’t occur in normal interactions. the spots that are visible by other people from close range are the ones on my lower lip, and they are embedded with ...
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Astiocles, this thread is kind of old and probably isn’t being checked anymore. I think that Badlips answered your question in one of her newer posts over the past 2 days - just read through the newer threads, and I think you’ll find your answer there. If not, just ask her this question in one of the current threads that are active today. :-)   [End]
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I’ve had a different experience with Fordyce spots. Much of my bottom lip has healed in the past month. About 15% of the bottom lip (the middle, inner part, in a thin strip) still has cheilitis on it, but most of my lip area looks normal now. The healed parts of my lip have not had more layers grow on and cover them, they’ve actually had several layers removed from them (the dead skin layers that had built up on them when they were suffering cheilitis have slowly sloughed off), so they are now softer and more pliable, and physically they look a tiny bit less thick. They look the w ...
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It sounds like our experiences are different. When I drink my hot tea, and when I eat anything, I get food, beverages, and saliva on my lips. That is what some people with cheilitis do, and that is what causes their lip skin to change color (darken) and stain when they eat. Eating substances that touch my lips creates a film of food, beverages, and saliva on my lips which is certainly very detrimental in my case to lip healing. The saliva contains powerful digestive enzymes which also attack the lip cells, because that’s what it is meant to do. In my case, the leftover saliva and fo ...
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About 15 or 20% of my bottom lip has cheilitis now, and I don’t know if that part is getting better or not. When I discovered that the AHA lotion was causing most of my cheilitis and I stopped using it, my lips healed really well for a couple of weeks, and they went from 80% with cheilitis to 20% with cheilitis, from daily exfoliation to about every-3-days exfoliation, which is of course a welcome improvement. I’m not sure if the healing on that last little strip on my bottom lip has stopped or not, since this week, it’s looked the same each day - no improvement for several days, and ...
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Calmvoice, glad to hear that you’ve seen positive results with Bariderm/Bariederm. I don’t know why psychologically you don’t like to see keratin (is that the wet, white line of dead skin cells that Badlips so oft speaks of?) on your lips, and that decision is obviously up to you, and you must do what you must to be comfortable, but, simply in terms of the vaseline in particular, I wonder if the Bariederm might be taking you 2 steps forward, then the vaseline taking you one step back. Vaseline makes lips so greasy and pliable, and doesn’t allow any air to get to them, and I felt that ...
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It’s on sale for $6 - the sale price will show up if you put it in the cart http://www.swansonvitamins.com/AM099/ItemDetail?n=0   [End]
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http://www.swansonvitamins.com/FL063/ItemDetail?n=2692%204294959029   [End]
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This is the acidophilus liquid I found on sale for $6.50: The regular price is $12.59 It is on sale for $6 something. The sale price will show up when you put it in your bag. --- American Health Acidophilus Culture Blueberry Low Sale Price! See price in bag Retail $12.59 Item #: AM096 Availability: In Stock 16 fl oz Liquid Liquid Probiotic Acidophilus Billions of organisms Natural blueberry flavor American Health’s Acidophilus liquid is composed of hardy, viable balanced cultures of specially selected strains of lactobacillus cultures in a natural palatable b ...
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Yes, it’s definitely true that experiencing stress makes cheilitis worse. Stress makes almost every physical and mental malady even worse. It’s so destructive. I also had times when the damaged upper layers of my lips turned mushy when eating and were left discolored. I think that the mushiness is from saliva and chemicals in the food we are eating getting onto the lips (which cannot be helped, when one is eating) and chemically breaking down the weakened skin so much that it turns to mush. I do think that it would help your lips if you washed them with a very gentle soap, such ...
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this thread is getting hard to read (bunched up on the on far right side of the screen), so i made a new topic on these lozenges: http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1556885#i   [End]
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In reference to the topic at the end of a long thread from yesterday, where people were discussing the GUM Periobalance dental probiotic supplement: 1. You can buy it from a retail establishment if you want, you don’t have to call the manufacturer. -- In the US, one place that has it is Drugstore.com. For new customers, any order of $25 ships free at drugstore.com. http://www.drugstore.com/products/prod.asp?pid=212087&catid=132230&crpg=2&tab=1#1 Note that the product does not have good reviews on Drugstore.com, about 2.5 out of 5 stars with 13 people reviewing it. However, t ...
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Badlips, Good for you that you’ve found something (acidophilus liquid) that has drastically improved your lips! So that others here can figure out if their cheilitis is similar to yours, and therefore might be treated in the same way as yours, can you describe all the cheilitis symptoms you’ve had, how long you’ve had them, etc.? I know that you have often complained about having a white line of wet stuff on your lips. What other symptoms of lip irritation and exfoliation did you have? Did you have a lot of dry skin buildup, layers of dry skin rising up on their own from you ...
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Stuck, it’s only misinformed or lazy doctors who claim that it’s the cause -- when the sufferer is a mature, reasonable person who insists that he/she does not bite or lick his/her lips obsessively. I find it so offensive that doctors would say that the patient is lying about this. It may be something in the environment around you (in your house, for example), or something in the foods you and your sister eat, or bath/skin products you both use, or a fungal infection that both of you picked up (that is very easy to do when you share bathrooms and kitchens with people), that is causing ...
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That’s great, Silly. It’s good to hear of cases where doctors are really taking cheilitis sufferers seriously. (Although, that probably happens much more than we on this forum realize, because the sufferers who are taken seriously and whose doctors seek hard for a solution are probably NOT the ones who are desperate enough to search for an online forum like this.) Keep us updated on your allergy tests. As you know, I ended up discovering that my cheilitis was a reaction to several irritants/lotions that I wasn’t putting on my lips, but on other areas of my face and other part ...
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Hi Bungle. I see that you aren’t new here, that you posted a thread 14 months ago... I don’t know if you have been following the forum since then and have seen my previous posts, but if you haven’t, I’d like to offer a couple of thoughts. You said that your cheilitis was caused by taking accutane, and persisted even when you stopped taking the drug. That is a story that I’ve seen told over and over on the internet. I think that patients should be warned about this potential side effect of the medicine, because it’s so long-lasting. -first thought- I don’t know for sure what ca ...
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I don’t think that the glycerin caused the Fordyce spots. The spots may have been there in my lower lip, underneath all my exfoliation, for months. It might just have been that I started to SEE the Fordyce spots when my lips finally healed enough that I could see beyond the wildly-exfoliating surface. The top layers of my bottom lip were so ruffled up and irritated in the past few months that the internal lip structure (where the Fordyce spots are) was not visible to me until mid-December.   [End]
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That’s an amazing experience! Thank you for describing it to us. -- Regarding what the American female doctor said to you -- For various maladies, with most of the doctors I’ve seen, they’ve mostly listened and examined and given advice/prescribed medicines, without telling me what they thought the outcome might be. Acting neither pessimistic nor optimistic, they gave no sign as to how they thought things would go. I’m sure they are trained in medical school to act that way, and their constant exposure to human ills and concerns must make them numb, and cautious. However, I ...
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If you are referring to my post on how I noticed Fordyce spots for the first time ever on my lips at the same time that I started using glycerin, I was only speculating about the various reasons the Fordyce spots were suddenly appearing. Using glycerin was only one of many changes that I instigated around that time. It could have been anything that caused a big growth of Fordyce spots in my lips, including simply a natural progression of the cheilitis condition. To see if coconut oil was any better than glycerin in terms of my Fordyce spots, in late December I switched back to coconut ...
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Thanks, hon. :-)   [End]
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Yeah, there are so many mentions of foot fungus, bunions, venereal disease and dandruff in the ancient holy books! Those publications are the foundation of any good medical school curriculum. Having skin inflammation is a common and bland condition - it is a mammilian affliction (from time to time, in some creatures) and not any huge new modern disease that just hasn’t been comprehended yet by medical science. My cheilitis was probably originally from foot fungus, and then was greatly worsened by having an allergic reaction to several things. Fungus and allergies are not new medica ...
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Natural foods like honey, vinegar, yogurt all have good properties, and they may make a small difference for the better, but they probably are not going to heal entrenched cheilitis if it is caused by any of the typical reasons (fungus, bacteria, virus, lip licking or biting, allergic reaction, hypothyroidism, vitamin imbalance, cancer). --- There are 61 posts on the Peeling Lips forum where people have talked about vinegar in the past. I’d suggest you take a look: http://curezone.com/forums/search.asp?q=vinegar&f=403 There is a storehouse of knowledge on this forum in the ...
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Unfortunately, the search function is turned off for my membership here (I hit the wrong button in the Curezone account ”Privacy Manager” and it can’t be reversed.) I went back to the start of my written participation here, which was around page 54 of the Peeling Lips forum, and these are a few of my posts which might contain helpful information for others: ”If you are new here and seem to have cheilitis, these are some things to think about” http://curezone.com/forums/am.asp?i=1552121 ”More tips for newcomers who have cheilitis” http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=15403 ...
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Yay! My recent thread has been triple-recommended (RRR), which is really nice. It is: ”If you are new here and seem to have cheilitis, these are some things to think about” at webpage: http://curezone.com/forums/am.asp?i=1552121 ...especially since people don’t tend to reply to my postings, say they are glad for me, say goodbye, or anything neighborly like that. ;-) ;-) However, when I clicked on the ”RRR” link at the top of the Peeling Lips home page, it said that there are no RRR postings at all. I wonder if this is to do with the fact that my postings were mistakenly chan ...
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