I’m on day 2 of the master cleanse and want to do some sort of clay cleanse at the end to help remove and absorb toxins on the intestine wall. Anyone know of a good clay to use?   [End]
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It blows me away why no ”scientist” or ”doctor” has ever tested out what these green globs are made of? Does it change that much in the liver? How hard could it possibly be to run a test on these globs to see if they are the olive oil or not? At least in the article, they mention that they did run tests, and their conclusion was it was the olive oil. --- Microscopic examination of our patient’s stones revealed that they lacked any crystalline structure, melted to an oily green liquid after 10 min at 40oC, and contained no cholesterol, bilirubin, or calcium by established wet che ...
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You’ve got it! The SWF needs to be done on an empty stomach, that’s why it’s done in the morning. You shouldn’t have any problems if you do it after the class. As long as you don’t drink or eat anything before.   [End]
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Just my opinion... so take it with salt ;-) I would try the laxative at night and SWF in the morning. The first time you do it, you may need to give yourself enough time in the morning to feel like you can go to work without having to hit the toilet, this takes some timing and knowing how your body works with the cleanse. The purpose of the laxative and SWF is to get the toxins out. If you do not do them, you will feel pretty bad, as the toxins stay in. I had a lot of resistance and fear at first also, but it turned out my fears were worse than the actual experience. Let us k ...
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Hey Richard, we are on the same schedule! Day 8 is about to begin! This marks a new stage in the cleansing! I probably won’t be going out beyond day 15, but it’s still a good stage to be in! Thanks for the messages you post! It’s extremely encouraging to keep on keeping on! --- Stage 3 (Day 8 to Day 15) On the latter part of an extended fast, you can experience enhanced energy, clear-mindedness and feel better than you have felt since childhood. On the downside, old injuries may become irritated and painful. This is a result of the body’s increased ability to heal during ...
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As long as the salt is uniodized... it all gets dissolved anyway. Bottled Spring water is better than tap water... well, depending on who you talk to. :-) Just find the purest water that you can use. Congratulations on starting and good luck!   [End]
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If you can just make it past those first couple days, you’ll have gone farther than most! I’m on day 7 right now, and for me, the first 5 I was really depressed this time. Every cleanse is different, but there is light at the end, just don’t stop! Congratulations on the first day!   [End]
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Great post and attitude! It’s encouraging for me to hear. The first time I did the SWF, I could hardly stand the taste! I wasn’t gagging, but it wasn’t pleasant for me. I’m doing the MC for about the 4th or 5th time and it isn’t so bad anymore. Not like it used to be. Every time I do the cleanse, it’s like my body is adjusting, knowing what is going on. keep on keepin on and keep us posted.   [End]
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My understanding is the purpose is to eliminate, solid and liquid. It may not be bile, it may be lemon juice? Or it may be bile? Only you can judge. My understanding was to take the laxative at night and SWF in the morning. I would like to get off the laxative tea because I have some concerns with my body becoming dependant on it, but I also know it’s very important to be eliminating during this time. The toxins have to get out. This is all based on my understanding of what is going on and what I have gone through in the past with the MC. My first MC, I seemed to have more bile ...
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There is a tool out there called the VitaMixer. http://www.vitamix.com/ It’s a great way to get more whole foods, including veggies and fruits into your diet. Just something to look into. It’s a bit expensive, and I let that stop me for 7 years, but I finally broke down and got one! I love using it to make meals! You’d be eating more soups and can make your own bread fast and easy, and make smoothies. Just something to check out for lifestyle change. Of course, it only works if you use it.   [End]
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Thanks for the post haha! I’ve never tried laying on my right side after drinking it, but know that is a part of the liver cleanse. I have had some problems with it flushing out at times. My solution was to make sure I kept standing up. I’ll try your suggestion. Thank you.   [End]
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Personally I don’t like to take fiber during the fast. I feel it interferes with the body getting the fasting message, and doesn’t let the bowels rest. But I have absolutely nothing to back this up. However, I do blend the lemons instead of juicing them, this gives my body some fiber to work with and uses more of the whole lemon. There is a thread on here with the same questions and answers as you posted. http://www.curezone.com/forums/m.asp?f=478&i=24174 Some people like taking the psyllum. It’s a personal preference that only you can answer.   [End]
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I believe it’s normal. It’s happened to me before. You can try blending the lemons with the pulp (about 1/2 lemon to 10oz drink), that will put a little fiber in the drink. I have had the bile, and there is always some bile, so it is not to be feared. Are you doing the Salt Water Flush? That may help also.   [End]
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What a great post! I love the attitude of making food for others while on the cleanse. It really helps to see the difference between hunger and ”hunger”. So much of our eating habits are mental, so much of our food associations are mental, so much of our social interactions center around food. When I’m on the MC, it’s like there is a switch in me that turns off. The smells turn into a feast in themselves. And it really increases my appreciation for food. We have so much to be grateful for, and so much is taken for granted. You’ve made it to day 20! That’s a huge marker! ” ...
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Either one will get the job done. I tend to agree with mastercleanseruser, but no real reason. The tea’s seem to be more natural. If you already have the pills, you may as well use them. :-)   [End]
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No Laxative tea but they have senna capsules? That’s very odd. Do they have a Celestial Seasonings section? They make a laxative tea as well, it’s not called Smooth Move. There are many laxative tea’s out there, Smooth Move is just the name of a particular tea brand by a particular company.   [End]
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Busy week for you! Here are some thoughts: I make all the juice in the morning also. I use Nalgene bottles (they hold about 30 oz which is three glasses and can be purchased at most camping stores). As for work, make all the juice in the morning, bring it to work, and then just take a 10 to 15 min break to have your ”lunch” or ”dinner”. They’ll never know. I use store bought OJ. Juicing would probably be better, but the store bought has always worked for me. Not the canned, but the bottled, not from concentrate and as fresh as you can is always best. Skipping the SWF (Sa ...
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I’m not an anti depressants so can’t offer any advice about that, but I did notice that for the first 5 days of the cleanse I was extremely depressed. I’m feeling much better now. There seemed to be a switch for me on the evening of day 5.   [End]
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Hey Ray, I’m on day 7 also! Congratulations to the both of us for making it this far!   [End]
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The issue for me, is there seems to be no proof that the green globs are nothing more than olive oil. Do you have any scientific experiments or articles that proves that the green globs are not olive oil? Any conclusive tests about the makeup of the material that proves it has been in the liver for longer than 24 hours? If so, please point me to those, as I would love to see this proven false. (When I say scientific experiments, I am talking about tests that have analyzed the materials to find out what they are made up and how they were formed.) I would also like to see some e ...
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I think it is best to take the stance that there is no conspiracy theory, even if there is one, and look at all the evidence. Here’s why: It’s too easy to chalk off anything that disagrees with a viewpoint as part of some conspiracy that can’t be proven. All this does is help a person prove they are never wrong. What we need is evidence, hard evidence, from both sides to determine which is true. And all evidence must be looked at. Medical Journal’s, Naturalist doctor’s, nothing to be discounted. We need to put the Medical Establishment vs Naturalistic Medicine battle aside, an ...
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Just so you know, I’m on your side! I’m a believer in the master cleanse, fasting, and many natural solutions to solve human diseases. At the same time, I don’t want to blindfold myself and feel I am willing to accept the truth even if it doesn’t fit with what I want to believe. I’ve spent hours going over this forum, and still have nothing to go on either way! It’s frustrating to spend hours reading posts of people ”arguing and bickering about who killed who...” (quote from the Holy Grail :-) Without any kind of evidence. This is some if the first evidence I’ve seen in this fo ...
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Although I said sluggish, I would say that the bowels are definitely improved after the MC! It is incredible! When I go... I don’t even have to wipe. It comes out like clay. And it feels like my body is working correctly! It’s a great feeling. However, after the fasting, there is usually a change in my body. It has to become used to getting no solids, to digesting solids again. And that first bowel movement after the fast, sometimes takes a day or two. There could be numerous answers to why: 1. My dehydration is down. 2. Not coming off the fast correctly. 3. Body’s adaptat ...
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I’ve heard the same thing about bowel movements. That you are supposed to have 3 a day or whatever. I find it a bit odd... If I have one good one a day, in the morning, then I feel great. I wouldn’t put to much pressure on yourself about how many bowel movements you are having. I’d say at least one a day. Maybe when we become superhuman then we’ll go 3 times. But that almost seems like the food would be passing through a person too quickly?   [End]
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Finally, something in this forum that has some substance. I’m starting to lean toward the liver cleanse being useless. However... some interesting questions about the article: First let me restate the timeline. A woman in her 40’s who eats a lot of fatty foods, was having pains in her right side. This was going on for about 3 months. She tried a herbalists suggestion for the liver cleanse, and saved the green blobs that came out of her rectum in the freezer. Sometime later, she had a gallbladder attack, so she had surgery and had the gallstones removed. 1. Is it possible tha ...
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Thanks for the excellent response! So if the SWF doesn’t work when measured 1 quart to 2 teaspoons, the book says: ”try adding a little more or a little less salt until the proper balance is found; or possibly take extra water with or without salt. This often increases the activity. Remember, it can do no harm at any time.” Right now I am using 3 teaspoons because it seems to work more consistently for me. It sounds as if the book is open to different people needing different ratios?   [End]
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Wow! 26 days! That is incredible! I’ve never gone past 14 myself. It’s curious that your tongue is still coated. I’ve never gotten my tongue clear, but always thought it was just around the corner (like day 16 or 17). Keep us posted as you progress, as well as any advice!   [End]
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There are other people, including myself, who have gone through the same questions. It could be many different things. If it doesn’t work, don’t worry about it and don’t try it again for that day. Just wait for the next day. Who knows, maybe the body needed that extra salt? After all, you are drinking a lot of water/juice. I’ve had the same problems with the Salt Water Flush (SWF). What I’ve done is experimented around with the amount of salt. The book calls for 2 teaspoons of salt for 1 liter of water. This was producing the same results on me that you are describing... it di ...
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I’ve had the same problems with the Salt Water Flush (SWF). What I’ve done is experimented around with the amount of salt. The book calls for 2 teaspoons of salt for 1 liter of water. This was producing the same results on me that you are describing... it didn’t always happen. So now I’ve gone up to 3 teaspoons of salt for one liter of water, and that seems to work just fine. Some of the other things I do to ensure it passes through: -I make my 90oz of lemon juice drink right after drinking the SWF. This keeps me standing up. -I don’t lie down. I think this keeps gravity fro ...
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I’ve had the same problems with the Salt Water Flush (SWF). What I’ve done is experimented around with the amount of salt. The book calls for 2 teaspoons of salt for 1 liter of water. This was producing the same results on me that you are describing... it didn’t always happen. So now I’ve gone up to 3 teaspoons of salt for one liter of water, and that seems to work just fine. Some of the other things I do to ensure it passes through: -I make my 90oz of lemon juice drink right after drinking the SWF. This keeps me standing up. -I don’t lie down. I think this keeps gravity fro ...
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I use the SmoothMove at night and salt water in the morning. Using Smooth move both in the morning and at night caused stomach cramps for me. Just using it at night and salt water in the morning works perfectly for me.   [End]
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I’m sorry you are having a terrible time with this. I know everyone reacts to the master cleanse and the salt water cleanse differently. However, here is what I think is going on. You are still eating food! This will make you feel sick! And is extremely unhealthy. Make sure you do not eat any food while on the fast. Only the lemonaid drink. And make sure you take the laxative tea at night. Too much of the laxative tea can also cause nausea. One thing you can try is to just start off with the laxative tea at night, no salt water in the morning. After a couple days, give t ...
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I’ve read that the tongue becomes coated as a sign of toxins being released, and that you are finished with the cleanse when the tongue is pink. Does anyone know the biological facts behind why the tongue is coating itself, and why it slowly becomes pink? Is this a good indicator to follow for fasting and why specificly? Thanks.   [End]
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The problem with using laxative tea is your body gets used to it. My suggestion is to use the SWF. There are days when it absorbs into my system instead of flushing and I feel a bit bloated. But if you keep doing it every day, your body learns what to do with it. You can experiment some with the amounts. I take 3 tablespoons because that seems to work better for me. I also blend the salt / water in a blender to make sure the salt is dissolved.   [End]
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I’m on day 9 of the MC, and every night I wake up full of energy. This lasts from about 1:00 to 3:00. Does anyone have any explanation for this? Any ideas what may be happening? I’m wondering if it is the laxative tea that is doing it, or if my adrenal gland is somehow getting taxed?   [End]
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The laxative tea and the Salt Water Flush are extremely important in the cleanse. It’s what gets the toxins out. Do the Salt Water every day. You will have water coming out, this isn’t the same as diarea but is part of the flush! There are days I have when the SWF seems to be absorbed in my body, and others when it comes out. You want it to come out! I’m experimenting as to why some days are different than others. Usually, the water coming out lasts anywhere from 1 hour to 2 hours for me. I’m trying to figure out why it takes different times and how to get it to shorten. ...
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I agree. I chew gum for the same reason. If you are worried about the sugar, you can get natural sugarless gum at health food stores. Peelu is the brand I’ve used before. It’s a bit harder to get started, and the flavor doesn’t last as long, but it will help with the bad breath. I’m not sure I agree with the person who posted about awakening the salivary glands will interrupt the process of your body eating off the dead cells. The thing is, on the Master Cleanse, you are still taking nutrients into your body, through the lemonaid. You are still getting food in, although in a ...
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Wouldn’t chewing on Ansise seeds activate the salivary glands and interfere with the fasting process just as much as gum would?   [End]
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Great post! I copied it and saved it with my fasting files! I have always wondered about the coating on the tongue. I know that it is a sign of toxins being released, and have heard you know when you are done with the fast once your tongue clears up. Does anyone know the science behind the tongue? What is happening specifically? Why does the clearing up of the tongue signify that you are ready to come off the cleanse?   [End]
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I’ve done the Master Cleanse about 5 times, and it has never been to loose weight. I am on the low end of what my weight should be (6’3” at 168) and have always been concerned about loosing too much weight. From reading the book and personal experience, the book states that you will only loose what your body doesn’t need. I weigh myself every day and night, and am on day 9. I’ve lost 6 pounds. 2 of that 6 has do to with the food you loose at the beginning of the fast that will be immediately gained. Other friends I have had who did fast to loose weight found they did not loose as ...
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I’m doing the Master Cleanse for 10 days, which is the minimum suggested time in the book. If you haven’t checked out the book yet, I would advise you to. For me, when doing the cleanse, weight is always an issue. I’m on the side of afraid that I’ll loose too much or will do some damage. Some of it comes down to faith, Mr. Burroughs in the book says that if you are underweight, you won’t loose anything that you don’t need. In other words, the only weight you loose is what your body doesn’t need anyway. But I track my weight while on the fast. Right now I’m on day 5 and have lo ...
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Here’s a great website that goes through the apple juice preparation of the Liver Flush! I also learned a lot more about the Liver Flush. I don’t think this page was on the main page in this forum? I found it from another member. ttp://www.sensiblehealth.com/gallbladder.html It looks like it’s done a day in advance! So here is the method: Master Cleanse for 10 days on the 11 day, drink only apple juice on the 12 day, drink apple juice and begin the liver flush at 8pm The next day Salt Water Flush And begin to come off the Master cleanse by drinking OJ!   [End]
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For all your help on this thread! It’s helped clear up some confusion for me about the fast.   [End]
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This is a bit strange Idris33, you have described my body type and situation exactly. Well, except for the wife and Turkey part. ;-) And my first name is Stephen. Strange... I have done a cleanse called the Master Cleanse that helped with a lot of the abdominal things, like gas and milk, but still have that portruding belly even though I am rail thin. I’m interested to see what anyone responds to your post. It looks like you are passing out some of the Gallstones. Which is a great sign.   [End]
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I have read that it is recommended to clean out parasites first. I’m doing the Master Cleanse right now, while it isn’t a parasite cleanse, It does cleanse the bowles out. I plan on doing a liver flush right after the cleanse. I would like to know the answers to your questions as well.   [End]
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Does anyone know what these are? Or the purpose of them? It doesn’t list them in the ingredients, and when I looked them up on the internet they seem to be associated with taurine? Muscle building? Here is an excerpt from the recipie: Take 4 ornithine capsules with the first sips to make sure you will sleep through the night. http://curezone.com/cleanse/liver/huldas_recipe.asp   [End]
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Thank you Roslinville! That last part especially helped me see how the liver flush works with the Master Cleanse!   [End]
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Ahh ha! Thanks for clearing that up for me. So when you are taking your malic acid pills, or drinking the apple juice, or taking the epsom salts, all of these are to loosen up the kidney stones? I’ll probably use the apple juice and epsom salts, but I only need to drink them at 2, 6, 8 and 10? So I’ll do the Master Cleanse for 10 days, then on the 11th day, stop drinking the lemonaid by 2:00, and instead drink the apple juice & epson salts. Then again at 6, 8 and 10. At 10 take the oil potion. Lie down with dreams of gallbladder stones in my head. The next day, I start comi ...
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Thanks for the response. Does the lemonaid mixture from the Master Cleanse help to soften the stones? Or is it only apple juice?   [End]
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Ahh! Thanks for translating for me! :-) I’ve never done the B&P with the Master Cleanse.   [End]
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Yes. Tea tonight and SWF tomorrow, and then OJ! Hoorah! OJ always feels like a huge meal to me after the lemonaid. After the next couple of days, you may want to take the tea again to get things started.   [End]
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You can try adding a bit more salt to the SWF. 3 teaspoons work better for me than 2. It’s usually a cyclical process for me. Some days are different than others. I don’t know what the B&P shake is, but just keep doing tea at night and SWF in the morning. Sometimes I experiment with doing different things in the morning after drinking the SWF. Like laying back down, walking around stretching, different times, to see if one will trigger the SWF more than the other. Keep us posted to what happens.   [End]
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Hello, I am just starting doing a master cleanse. This is my 5th one and I stubled across the curezone forum! I’ve been looking over the Liver Flush, which I’ve never done, and want to do it with the Master Cleanse. I’ve spent about 3 hours looking for some answers and haven’t had much luck. I would appreciate any help with some of these questions: 1. When is the best time to do the liver flush? Before the MC? In the Middle? Or at the End? 2. Many of the liver flushes recommend drinking apple juice for 5 days before, but being on the master cleanse, I’m sticking to le ...
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True, regular use is not good. But it’s important to be eliminating. I find when people usually start the Master Cleanse, they want to do everything except for the laxative part. What ends up happening is they don’t eliminate, feel terrible and think the fast is not for them. The elimination is just about the most important aspect of the fast! It’s not good enough to just urinate to remove toxins. Another mistake is when people take the laxative or the SWF at different periods of the day. Laxative at night, SWF in the morning. The first time I did the cleanse, I took the la ...
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I’ve heard of some people using Agave as a substitute. But I’m not sure if it has all the minerals that Syrup has. Agave is from the cactus plant, looks like honey, and can be found at most health food stores.   [End]
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