High-carb advocate Harley aka durianrider is putting his money where his mouth is by challenging so-called ”low-carb” ultra-marathoner Tim Olson to a marathon race. Durianrider will donate $50,000 to Tim’s favorite charity if Tim can beat him in a marathon while in a state of low-carb ketosis and not using any carbs during the race, such as Tim Olson’s favorite race-time drink, Seirra Mist soda, or his sponsored high-carb VFuel energy gels. If Tim loses, Tim owes nothing. - Bogus Low Carb Ultra Marathon Performances [Video Embedded Here]   [End]
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Excess fat is what causes carbs and Sugar to become bad as it slows down glucose metabolism, resulting in high blood sugar: How excess fat causes Type II Diabetes http://curezone.com/forums/am.asp?i=2152655 Eating over 10-15% fat will start doing that. The macro ratio of Oreos: 57% carbs/4% protein/39% fat People love blaming the carbs and sugar without realizing it’s the fat.   [End]
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You are really obsessed with durianrider and freelee, aren’t you?! You may want to seek some help for that. By watching their videos, you can see they are very lean (I thought sugar makes you fat?!), that they are athletic and in great shape, and see their blood tests which confirm they are in great health. Yeah, they have ”no credentials” when it comes to health and fitness lol!!!! Part of the reason they video themselves so much is to show they practice what they preach and how they look on a daily basis, the results of what they preach. I wish all diet gurus would be as tra ...
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Excess fat is what causes carbs and sugar to become bad as it slows down glucose metabolism, resulting in high blood sugar: How excess fat causes Type II Diabetes http://curezone.com/forums/am.asp?i=2152655 Here’s a group of people who’s diet consists of mind-blowing 20% sugar and it’s not slowing these guys down one bit: Worlds best endurance athletes eat 80-10-10 ratio http://curezone.com/forums/am.asp?i=2155309 It’s not the sugar, it’s the fat.   [End]
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You’d have to wait until the high-fat foods metabolize enough before it wouldn’t negatively affect carbs. How long that would take, I’m not sure. My guess is longer than eating only carbs for breakfast and lunch, then having only high-fat foods for dinner, then being safe to eat only carbs again the next morning. It would be an interesting experiment to find out.   [End]
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More of your extremist mind at work. I never said DR has ”full credentials”. I was talking about health and fitness and was commenting about how nonsense it is for you to say he has ”zero credentials” when it comes to health and fitness. You’re doing the same thing with Colpo. I just showed one of his articles were he did a good job debunking that Tim Olson was actually low-carb. You then make it sound like I believe Colpo is a ”reliable source” with everything. I found that one article about Olson to be accurate because Colpo posted Olson’s own words. I have no idea how accurate a ...
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You need a 3rd grade english lesson as you, along with EasyDozIt, don’t know the difference between a lie and a mistake. Here you go: - lie: a false statement made with deliberate intent to deceive; an intentional untruth; a falsehood. - mistake (verb): to regard or identify wrongly as something or someone else See, I didn’t lie. I simply mistook which one of those low-carb gurus had diabetes, just like how you   [End]
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All carbs are safe, even processed carbs in moderation. It’s the high-fat foods that people add to carbs that makes carbs unsafe, like too much meat, dairy, and oils. How excess fat causes Type II Diabetes http://curezone.com/forums/am.asp?i=2152655   [End]
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I’d like to see what his typical days diet is too because from what he writes he sounds like he just eats raw meat & vegetables.   [End]
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lol, do you even read what you write?! You say: ”when you make a factual statement that’s not actually a fact, it’s not called lying, it’s called misspeaking.” after you had just said this: ”Please stop misleading people on this forum with lies” Sounds like you’re calling me a liar. I was just asking if you should be called a liar for things like making such ludicrous statements like durianrider having ”no credentials” when I simply mixed up two people from a video I posted. Were you misleading people on this forum with lies such as this: ”Yeah, I got the Clinton th ...
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Are you really surprised? The Paleo people are just as cult-like as they accuse others to be and will apologize for their diet, such as make their diet lifestyle sound wide and inclusive instead of narrow and overly strict so as to avoid turning off potential converts. As much as they want to say Paleo is not low-carb, we all know it is.   [End]
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Yes, high blood sugar is bad, but it’s excess fat mixed with a carb-based diet that’s the root cause of hyperglycemia as we’ve been trying to tell you for a while now: How excess fat causes Type II Diabetes http://curezone.com/forums/am.asp?i=2152655 The reason low-carb may work to prevent hyperglycemia is you’re simply taking carbs out of the equation per se. Now aren’t you glad to know that carbs aren’t evil and you don’t have to avoid them and you don’t have to live off disgusting raw meat anymore like you’re some kind of carnivore?!   [End]
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”No Oil--Not Even Olive Oil!”   [End]
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From the head Paleo guru himself: DON’T EAT: Refined vegetable oils EAT: Healthful oils (Olive, walnut, flaxseed, macadamia, avocado, coconut) http://thepaleodiet.com/what-to-eat-on-the-paleo-diet/ Um Loren, those ”healthful” oils are just as refined as the others and I doubt the Paleolithic people had oil presses back then. The truth about oils: - Olive Oil is NOT Health Food but Sick Food https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfBKauKVi4M - No Oil--Not Even Olive Oil! - Caldwell Esselstyn, MD https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_o4YBQPKtQ   [End]
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Here’s how to prove your raw meat diet is nonsense. Put raw meat and also raw fruit in front of a child and see which one they grab to eat.   [End]
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The true ”Paleo” for humans would be frugivorous omnivore like how Chimpanzees eat; mostly fruit with a little bit of salad greens and even smaller amounts of animal products, mainly in the form of insects. Ironically, it would be closer to the 80-10-10 raw vegan diet! But Paleo people will have none of that because the real reason for ”Paleo” is to find a ”healthy” excuse for eating so much meat.   [End]
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Well yeah, the Paleo people make it an umbrella term because they don’t want to come across as being so strict, but if you look at most Paleo sites, they are say Paleo is low-carb. -- ”one thing i can guarantee you is that everyone lies. the paleo people are out eating pizzas when no one is looking. and the vegetarians all crave bacon and eat it alone in the dark.” Ain’t that the truth! I do believe with vegans that meat cravings are mostly caused by under-eating. Carb cravings are caused by carbs being the body’s preferred source of fuel.   [End]
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You claim I tell lies, but then say durianrider has no credentials, should I call you a liar? I simply misspoke in that it was low-carb guru Tim Noakes who has diabetes. Durianrider has been in the fitness industry for over 15 yrs, has trained with pro athletes, and is an elite runner and cyclists that consistently finishes in the top of his races. Far from having ”no credentials” unless you think only school credentials count which would be too bad for you if you think that way. Sorry to hear how the way DR talks hurts your little ears, but you’re a total hypocrite to say his vide ...
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lol, whatever you say.   [End]
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I don’t know why it’s so hard for some of you Paleo people to read what I write. I said ”He may be lower-carb, but he is certainly not low-carb.” ”Paleo” is defined as low-carb by it’s gurus and I was asking for low-carb endurance athletes (which includes Paleo) and the few people you could find seem most likely they are eating 40-30-30 ratio than a low-carb ratio. I never said this guy wasn’t eating ”Paleo-approved” foods, but those foods are only part of what ”Paleo” is said to be as the other part is low-carb. If it’s just ”Paleo-approved” foods that makes a diet Paleo, then t ...
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Good for him if he did.   [End]
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And I’m not going to show you a picture of my tongue and stomach. That’s just creepy.   [End]
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Oh brother. Let me point out all your mistakes: -- ”Such as 801010 is what kenyans use to make victories, when they clearly do not.” Firstly, I never said their diet is what they use to make victories. I was just showing what they eat as more of proof that their low-fat diet is not slowing them down by any means. Second, you are the one who’s twisting what I say to fit your agenda. My thread title   [End]
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How do you not get enough potassium if you eat a ton of bananas? The simple answer is she wasn’t eating a ton of bananas, or else she wouldn’t be low in potassium. It’s also why she was low in magnesium because she simply wasn’t eating enough. B12 is probably the only nutrient a vegan would not be able to get enough of no matter how much they eat. Her making subjective claims like she ate more on her raw diet than cooked diet is meaningless unless she knew exactly how many calories she was getting which she never says. Anyone can make a guess. We have no idea if she was under-e ...
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Seems like he promotes calorie-restriction: ”In fact, if I’m just out doing easy long rides, I don’t have to eat anything at all” Then seems to contradict himself about supplements: ”The answer: none of them. Nature is smarter than science. By rejecting these claims and having all out faith in the Paleo Diet, I not only save a lot of money on supplements, but have a mind at ease that I don’t need them.” ”I could maintain moderate levels of exercise for longer periods of time without supplementation. However, supplementation extends the length even longer. I’m less likely to “hi ...
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Present your evidence that I’ve lied about my diet claims, or else take back your slander.   [End]
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More anti-carb madness. Maybe these athletes should stay better hydrated and simply brush their teeth more. ”Saliva helps to protect teeth from erosion and decay, so dehydration during heavy exercise can increase the risk of oral ill-health.” ”Fast energy replenishment often means athletes use high-carbohydrate diets or guzzle sugary, acidic energy drinks, which without cleaning can boost the risk of tooth decay and damaged enamel.” ”46.5 percent of athletes admitted they had not been to the dentist in the past year”   [End]
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You say you don’t have a problem with vegans, yet you are the one who keeps bringing them up and obsessing on it. That’s not healthy. You can go to any health food store and find supplements made from eggs and dairy, also glandulars from animal organs, so there goes your argument. But regardless with your unhealthy obsession with vegans, the point I’m making is most of the Paleo websites sell supplements. None of the high-carb/low-fat sites do as far as I’ve seen. That doesn’t bode well for the Paleo diet. Keep throwing those insults at me if you want, but it’s not going to ...
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lol, the stuff you write! ”The point is that I don’t know, but I don’t go around speculating about what people are doing. And if I don’t have proof, I don’t make accusations...I keep it to the science” Then in your next breath: ”Have you posted that tongue pic yet? I ask this because I know you are not healed of anything you say you are. I know this because your mind is angry and deceitful. ” Ha ha ha ha! I love what a hypocrite you are. The funniest part is you can’t even see that the one with the truly angry mind is yourself. Time for you to do some inner reflection. ...
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”You lot” That was written by Jessie, the Brit. The other slang is from listening to too much of durianrider and freelee I suppose. I think the words they use are cute. But why are you so obsessed with this? It has nothing to do with the debate about diet and it’s not helping anybody except for the people who are hating on me. Don’t feed the haters.   [End]
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Only getting 10.1% of calories from protein is NOT eating a ”lot” of meat/milk no matter how much you want to believe it. And I never said or implied that the Kenyan runners were vegan. YOU are implying that I did even though you clearly saw I wrote ”80-10-10 ratio”. It’s all starting to make sense though from you saying ”This is a liberal tactic these days”. You’re obviously one of those far-right wingnuts who detest vegans and that’s why you come across so angry and militant and why you’re constantly bringing up vegans even though I never did because your type sees them as some k ...
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You implied that I’m I think the Keyan’s high-carb diet is the sole reason for their marathon dominance: ”[He] seems to think that the only thing that separates Kenyan runners from the rest of the world is their diet.” And if you ever wondered why I think you come across as a total nutbar: ”it was something about the writing style that impressed me as female, but I couldn’t put my finger on it. Now I know what at least part of it is. It’s the use of ”lol” in the messages. I happen to be part of the male community that believes that men should not use emoticons like smiley faces an ...
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Firstly, the guy in the interview speaking for Oslon is low-carb promoter Steve Phinney who has Type II diabetes   [End]
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He may be lower-carb, but he is certainly not low-carb. Notable quotes from his interview: - At this point I’m anaerobic and relying quite heavily on carbs rather than fat. - For races in the 4-6 Hour range I definitely need more carb intake - but I am burning carbs here and there and need to replenish them if I wish to continue at the intensity it takes to win the race. - In this case, I rely on Puresport, caveman energy bars, beef jerky, and fruit, especially grapes, strawberries, and bananas. I might even use some Organic Brown Rice Syrup - If I need a big boost late ...
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-- ”There are suppliments sold from EVERY type of field in regards to diet.” Show me all supplements that the low-fat/plant-based promoters sell. --”Do you see meat suppliments, the answer is NEVER!” Except here: Paleo Protein Pure (Beef Protein) ( 2 lbs Container) $59.99 http://www.julianbakery.com/affiliate-product/paleo-protein-pure-beef-protein-2-lbs-container/ It was linked from Loren Cordain’s own site: http://thepaleodiet.com/store/ Strange that a Paleo diet has to supplement with beef protein powder!   [End]
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Oh I see, so when I call out people for being snake oil salesman and being on steriods, that’s insulting them, but when you call me insulting things, that’s calling a spade a spade. Okie dokie. I never attacked your queen god Denise Minger. I simply showed that the reason she fell apart on her vegan diet was, as she even stated, ”I was not eating nearly enough”. Yes, you do become malnourished when you don’t eat enough. Ask any anorexic. If you can’t see Mark Sisson juices, then that seems consistent with you’re inability to read and you may need to go get your eyes examined. [Image Embedded Here]
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Sigh. Let me set you straight. 80-10-10 is a macronutrient ratio, just like 40-30-30 that’s promoted by the Zone diet. Just because one vegan, Doug Graham, calls his particular raw diet ”80-10-10” doesn’t mean the definition of 80-10-10 has changed to exclusively mean a raw vegan diet, just like eating a 40-30-30 ratio doesn’t necessarily mean you’re following the Zone diet as you can eat that ratio as a vegan. Doug Graham even says it himself about the term: ”’80-10-10’ is a caloro-nutrient ratio. It’s about consuming more than 80% of your calories from carbs and less than 10% ...
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I said 80-10-10 ratio. Please learn how to read. When are you Paleo people going to post a list of all the worldclass Paleo endurance runners? There should be a lot of them if the Paleo diet is so great.   [End]
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You Paleo people don’t seem to read so well. Here’s what the title of my thread actually said: ”Worlds best endurance athletes eat 80-10-10 ratio” http://curezone.com/forums/am.asp?i=2155309 The article said the Kenyan runner’s macro ratio average was 77/10/13, or in other words, an 80-10-10 ratio. Why do you keep assuming plant-based necessarily equals vegan? It’s called plant-based, not plant-only. You seem to have some unhealthy obsession with vegans. You saying the Kenyan’s diet is actually closer to Paleo just boggles my mind! Keep dreaming!!!   [End]
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Yes, I do criticize snake oil salesmen, especially the one’s who don’t disclaim that they use steriods. You find those kind of people acceptable? Tell me, why is it mostly the Paleo orientated people who are the one’s selling tons of supplements and not the people who advocate a low-fat/plant-based diet? That doesn’t bode well for your diet. I showed you evidence about the ex-vegans here all under-ate, including Paleo-queen Denise Minger. Don’t blame me because you are so biased towards your Paleo diet that you refuse to accept the evidence, even when Ms. Minger said on   [End]
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lol ok, so you didn’t say I said diet was the sole reason, you’re just saying that I’m implying that I’m saying diet is the sole reason. Wow, such a big difference lol. Just to let you know again so you don’t keep assuming and making an ass out of yourself, I wasn’t implying diet was the sole reason for the Kenyan’s dominance in marathons. I was simply showing what the diet is of the best endurance runners in the world, nothing more. Anyone with common sense can see that. I still haven’t seen your list of all the world class Paleo endurance runners. There’s got to be a lot of the ...
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Yes, because I never said the Kenyain’s high-carb/low-fat diet is the sole reason for their dominance. I’m just showing that their dominance INCLUDES the diet you Paleo people think is the devil. Btw, are you ever going to show me those worldclass Paleo marathoners? Their must be a lot if the Paleo diet is so great. You also know I’m a he and what my name is because you were told so: fectoid2 ”You keep saying ”he”, but to me, the tone of the writing seems female. I can’t really put a finger on it, but it just seems that way. I guess it doesn’t really matter, but for some reason i ...
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It’s pretty obvious who’s who.   [End]
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Well I wouldn’t expect people who hardly eat carbs to get Type II diabetes since it takes the combination of excess fat on a carb-based diet to cause diabetes, along with causing obesity, but the facts are Inuit people have a ”similar prevalence of coronary artery disease as non-Inuit populations and they have excessive mortality due to cerebrovascular strokes.” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inuit_diet#Nutrition But lets keep it local by just looking at people at this forum. Seems like most people here are on some kind of ”meat & veggies” diet and most of those people are not getting ...
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Hard workouts, lots of protein, and tons of supplements to get fit and swol? More like fake tans, fake boobs, photoshop, starvation, and lots of steroids and other peds! Two insiders expose the truth about the health & fitness world. [Video Embedded Here]   [End]
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Oh, you got us good! All this time I’ve thought you were just severely under-carbed by all your ridiculous and asinine claims, such as recommending a zero-carb raw meat diet and that humans are only supposed to have a bowel movement once a week, but turns out you were just trolling us the whole time. Good one!   [End]
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Stop with your lies, fectoid. I never said the Kenyan runner’s diet is the sole reason why they dominate. If your low-carb Paleo diet is so great, were are all the world-class Paleo runners? Why aren’t they winning all these pro marathons? Why haven’t the Kenyans and others switched to Paleo if it’s such a superior diet? And you know I’m not a she, so stop trying to be derogatory. ”Personal attack is often the best indication that the writer knows his logic is flawed and therefore tries to deflect attention by attacking the opponent, instead of attacking the arguments of the ...
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You’re saying one-size-fits-all diet is a myth, but are making the case our ancestors ate Paleo and that’s how we should eat, so which is it? --”Do you not also find it odd that they go from ”starving” on a vegan diet to thriving on a paleo diet?” No, because starving on any diet will make you feel like crap. The reason they are ”thriving” on a low-carb diet is meat & fat are more calorie-dense, so you get way more calories in per same volume of food. If the Paleo diet was so great, then most doing the low-carb ”Candida diet” would report feeling significantly better, but go chec ...
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Then how do you explain when I got off all the meat & fat all my problems quickly went away and haven’t come back even though I’m on a high-carb/low-fat diet that you claim is poison?   [End]
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I appreciate your sentiments. As for Paleo, the belief that humans weren’t eating starches way back when has been debunked: The Paleo Diet Is Uncivilized (And Unhealthy and Untrue) http://curezone.com/forums/am.asp?i=2137404 The belief that the Inuit Eskimos are a healthier people is not true either: ”evidence has shown that Inuit have a similar prevalence of coronary artery disease as non-Inuit populations and they have excessive mortality due to cerebrovascular strokes.[24][25]” http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inuit_diet#Nutrition Paleo was even recently rated the worst die ...
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How do you know it wasn’t protocols 3-8 that did the trick? Only getting 4-5 hrs of sleep alone will cause a lot of cognitive & memory problems, also a lack of B12 and D each! It also doesn’t say what she exactly eats in a day. What if her increase of fruits caused the improvements? Too many variables in her protocol.   [End]
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You recommend everyone eat raw meat only diet as if they were carnivores?   [End]
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”as if some starving paleo man would pass by some ripe delicious fruit, sadly saying ’looks good but I can’t eat that because it’s not good for me’, ridiculous.” Exactly! And that people think ”Grok” with basically only rocks and sharpened sticks were able to run down and kill large game to be able to feed his family for days as if they were a pack of lions is also ridiculous. A pack of lions hunting only have a 30% success rate. Grok would starve to death.   [End]
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I was eating low-carb for many many years and all of a sudden started developing symptoms I thought was hypoglycemia. All the quack alternative practitioners I saw recommended I go more stricter Paleo, scaring me away from gluten grains, but all that did was make me sicker. About 3-4 days after avoiding all animal products, all those symptoms that were ruining my life were gone. For over a year now I eat the exact opposite, eating as much ”anti-nutrient” fruit and ”evil” grains as I wish, and none of my symptoms have come back. How would you explain that other than my previous ...
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Adrenal Fatigue, it’s still not real. Starvation, it still is.   [End]
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If the Paleo diet is so great, then why did it make me so sick and why has hardly anybody here gotten better on it? And then why has a high-carb/low-fat diet made me better?   [End]
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Still pushing the raw meat diet? Yuck! Come back to reality, carbs aren’t bad for you, unless you eat a lot of fat in your diet which screws up carb metabolism and causes high blood sugar problems and obesity.   [End]
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Kenya’s a poor country with a history of turmoil that barely averages 2,000 calories per day, so no wonder they have a not-so-great health record for the average Kenyan. http://chartsbin.com/view/15619 However, the elite runners average 3,000 calories, the recommended amount for an active male. http://curezone.com/forums/am.asp?i=2155309 Their high-carb/low-fat diet helps keep them lean, just what an endurance athlete wants. ”The studied Kenyans had less mass for their height, longer legs, shorter torsos, and more slender limbs. One of the researchers described the Kenyan p ...
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Because she had a history of under-eating on her vegan diet: ”Anne went vegan during training for The Dark Knight Rises” http://perezhilton.com/teddyhilton/2012-12-03-anne-hathaway-vegan-diet#ixzz3JHKBP4hs Dark Knight was released in July 2012. Anne Hathaway On Starving For ’Les Mis’: ’I Just Had To Stop Eating’ http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/07/anne-hathaway-starved-les-mis-stop-eating-for-total-13-days-shooting_n_2257258.html Les Mis was released in December 2012. It’s epidemic for actresses to calorie-restrict to maintain being thin for roles and public appea ...
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I posted before about how under-eating can cause hypothyroid, so it should be no surprise that the risk rates of women getting hypothyroid is parallel with the rates of calorie-restricting eating disorders in women: ”Women have 10 times the risk of hypothyroidism as men” http://umm.edu/health/medical/reports/articles/hypothyroidism ”Anorexia nervosa... is diagnosed approximately nine times more often in females than in males.” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anorexia_nervosa ”Bulimia nervosa is nine times more likely to occur in women than men.” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B ...
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But do you think the adrenals are actually wearing out, like how the pancreas can from overuse?   [End]
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I didn’t know you tried!   [End]
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Not sure what that article is supposed to tell me as it doesn’t mention adrenals or cortisol. It does support my side by reaffirming that women get hypothyroid more than men. So if I may ask, where do you get your claim that ”AF” is now just a term to describe cortisol patterns? The originator of the ”AF” theory, Dr. J. Wilson, says ”AF” is when the adrenals wear out and can not produce enough hormones, similar to how the pancreas can wear out from overuse and thus stop making enough insulin. He then sells unproven supplements he claims can ”rebuild” the adrenals--that should be ...
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You don’t have ”AF” just as no one else does because the condition does not exist. About these other people, how do you know they even had all the symptoms blamed on ”AF”? How do you know their diets are not based on starvation? Do they mention how many calories their before and after diets are, because that’s really the only way to know for sure. Anyone can write how they had ”AF” and changed their diet and lifestyle and got better. Unless they gave greater details, such as all the symptoms they had and how many calories their before and after diets were, it really doesn’t tell us m ...
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If they are not eating enough, then starvation WILL be their problem. Don’t confuse starvation with not eating anything. Starvation begins when people eat below the amount of calories they need. And just to clarify, I’m not saying everyone’s problem at this forum is starvation. I’m not even saying everyone in the AF support section is suffering from starvation. What I am saying--because it’s fact--is that everyone who has the symptoms listed for ”AF” is suffering from starvation because that’s what ”AF” really is; starvation. Also, other things can cause fatigue, so not everyon ...
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The doctor who wrote that article: ”Dr. Jennifer Landa is Chief Medical Officer of BodyLogicMD, the nation’s largest franchise of physicians specializing in bioidentical hormone therapy” The article also links to her personal website where she sells expensive unproven supplements: http://store.jenlandamd.com/supplements.html About bioidentical hormone therapy: ”The Medical Letter on Drugs and Therapeutics concluded ”There is no acceptable evidence that ’bioidentical’ hormones are safe or effective. Patients should be discouraged from taking them.” https://en.wikipedia.org ...
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There’s no mystery to what is causing the symptoms listed for ”AF”. It’s starvation and that’s why all the symptoms are EXACTLY THE SAME and why most in the AF section are calorie-restricted. Can’t get much simpler than that. Dr. J. Wilson just made a wrong theory about what is causing those symptoms, but he sure has cashed in on it and made a lot of other practitioners a lot of money buy selling supplements for something that doesn’t even exist. And yes, everyone who has taken my diet advice has gotten better because my advice is for people who are sick from not getting enough cal ...
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Well since the webmaster is the one who controls the forum and the only one to rename things, that’s why I’m asking them. As to whether or not the rest of the forum agrees with me or not about ”AF”, does the medical community base medical conditions on what most of their patients believe? No, they base medical conditions on science and evidence and the evidence is clear on   [End]
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Webmaster, did you look at the evidence yet? It’s clear and overwhelming that there is no such thing as ”adrenal fatigue” and that it’s actually symptoms due to starvation. Everyday that you don’t rename the AF support forum is another day people keep being misdiagnosed with something that not only they don’t have, but is not even real. Please do the responsible thing and take action on this so people don’t keep going down the wrong road to health.   [End]
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Also want to mention that whether a person is stressed and as a result that causes them to start under-eating that leads to starvation, or if under-eating is what has directly caused their stress, they are still under-eating and that’s what I’m focusing on because, as I showed you in that list, so many people here are under-eating and I don’t see anyone raising awareness about it. If you’re worried about stress caused by other reasons not having a specific section at CZ, then simply rename it to ”Fatigue”, but you’ll still see the majority of people in there are under-eating and if no o ...
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Well since starvation is a big cause of stress, I would expect most of the same symptoms be included in that list, but you’re kinda putting the cart before the horse because their list looks to be symptoms that can be directly caused by stress, or symptoms from conditions that cause stress to the body. That page does prove some of what I’m saying, like #1 & #5 where they talk about how stress causes the adrenals to produce cortisol, which is why all the people here who’s adrenals are supposedly ”fatigue” actually have high cortisol reading during certain times of the day, especially nig ...
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Not cherry-picking, you just don’t get what I’m saying. The reason I’m asking the AF forum to be renamed to ”starvation fatigue” is because all the symptoms listed for ”AF” are the   [End]
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Then do a test, try my advice and if it doesn’t help, then you know. Otherwise, you’re just wasting more of your time and money chasing dragons.   [End]
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And wanted to add what person who started all this ”adrenal fatigue” nonsense even says is a cause: - Dr. J Wilson’s Adrenal Fatigue Questionnaire Predisposing Factors - I suffer from anorexia.   [End]
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If you got it all figured out, then why are you still sick? It’s just like almost everyone as in the Starvation Fatigue forum trying to come up with theories and ideas to explain why they think their adrenals are out of whack, making things sound so technical and complicated that you need to have a doctorate degree to understand when the simple fact is the biggest reason they feel out of whack has nothing to do with the functioning of their adrenal glands, they feel out of whack because they are calorie-deprived. You can change the name all you want, from ”Adrenal Fatigue”, to ”Adrenal ...
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You ridicule what I say and my advice to you (that diet is your real problem), yet you haven’t tried my advice and you’re still just as sick as you were before trying every parasite protocol out there to try to rid something you think is causing your problems. Now you are saying you’re eating tons of food, so how many calories are you averaging now? I know you think I’m being mean to you, but I’m the only one here who’s actually trying to send you down the right path to getting healed.   [End]
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I see your posts as an attack because of saying stuff I’ve never said and your snarky attitude, but now it adds up because you think I’m someone I’m not. This is my only account, so whoever ”told” you different told you wrong and for the record, I don’t support a fully raw diet, except for maybe treating cancer. The closet to raw I support is the Raw Till 4 diet because I do think fruit is optimal food, but I also support diets like Starch Solution if people don’t have access to quality fruit, or don’t feel satiated from basing their diet around fruit. Back to the debate since now you ...
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The reason I brought up Faith is you seem to have a similar personality as her; head-strong, combative, taking things to the extreme, like exaggerating what your opposition says. For instance, you came into my thread making it sound like I think fruits are the only foods you can eat to not starve. Where did you ever get that? Faith and others used to do the same thing. When I discovered carbs were the missing link to a lot of people’s problems here, including my own, I was telling people carbs aren’t the problem and basically have as much fruit as people wanted. I never suggeste ...
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Only one way for you to really know: count your calories. Otherwise, everything else is just speculation. Here’s some free sites to help calculate up your calories: http://cronometer.com   [End]
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That’s right, you have NO IDEA. You’re just assuming you were getting sufficient calories and I hate to break it to you luv, but looking at your symptoms (low body temp, tired all the time, losing hair, easily sick, heavy periods, weak and atrophying muscles, high TSH), those are all classic signs of starvation. You’re simply under-eating and you’re exactly why I’m asking the webmaster to rename the AF support section to ”Starvation Fatigue”. Be happy about this though. Now you know what has been causing your problems. As to your question in that one post, ”my guess is hypo cause ...
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So how many calories did that average out for you?   [End]
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No need to get defensive, trapper. What I meant is supplementing for medicinal reasons, not nutritional reasons. Obviously people like vegans are going to have to continually supplement with B12, or people not getting enough sunlight will probably have to supplement with Vit D. I’m talking about taking high-doses of a nutrient to produce a medicinal effect. If taking high doses of a nutrient makes a person’s symptoms go away and if they stop taking that high-dose and their symptoms don’t come back then taking that nutrient at high dose produced a cure. If their symptoms come bac ...
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How do you know you were getting sufficient calories?   [End]
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Another thing, this request isn’t about high-carb. It’s about warning against calorie-restriction which if you have all the symptoms listed for ”AF”, you are suffering from starvation because that’s what those symptoms mean. Lots of things can cause fatigue, but the symptoms listed for ”AF” are the   [End]
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Oh please. How do you know eating high-carb would have ”killed” you? The only people where that actually could happen is people with severe anorexia who may have trouble re-introducing carbs too quickly. It’s called   [End]
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I’m just expressing my opinion from what I’ve been observing. I’m not saying iodine supplementing hasn’t helped anyone, I’m just commenting that is seems like, as with every other recommended protocol at CureZone, it doesn’t help most who try it and of the people it does help it’s only helping as long as they keep taking it, like people on coffee. When I say getting ”truly better” that would mean not having to keep taking any kind of medication or supplement, such as Iodine higher than our bodies actually need. I know a lot of you believe the RDA of iodine is too low and you have e ...
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That’s the problem, you’re only getting over a thousand calories a day. You need to at least be getting over TWO thousand calories per day: http://www.nhlbi.nih.gov/health/educational/wecan/healthy-weight-basics/balance.htm As for so many other people here only getting around a 1,000 calories a day, why do you think they are still sick?! I think the answer for you is just too simple for you to believe. How about this, try my advice for at least a couple of weeks and start a blog about it here. Track and post what you’re eating so everyone can see. If my theory is correct, yo ...
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I do listen to what people say. It’s you guys that have convinced yourselves that parasites are causing your problems who are the one’s who won’t listen to anything other than what you guys want to hear. Case in point, you won’t even listen to what I have to say: ”Your diet idea is irrelevant to me.” I gave you this advice over a year ago to just try and see if that’s what’s really causing your problems, but you STILL have not even tried it because you have convinced yourself that’s not the problem, so you won’t even listen and try my advice that might be the advice that’s gets you ...
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I agree with most of what you say. I think iodine in large amounts if anything acts like a stimulant, just like coffee makes a person feel like they have more energy, but it’s only a bandaid that will cause problems in the long run. These iodine promoters, though with maybe well-meaning intentions, think they have found the ”miracle” nutrient, but the thing is, there is no miracle nutrient, or super food. We only need the amount of nutrients we need and any excess our bodies piss or metabolize out. Of course, if someone is deficient in iodine, they’ll need to supplement with iodine ...
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You’re giving advice when the advice hasn’t even helped you. It’s like the blind leading the blind. All you people who think parasites are causing your problems are ASSUMING that’s what the problem is, but you guys are only GUESSING, so for any of you who assume you have parasites but aren’t getting any better trying to rid what you think you have, it’s highly irresponsible to tell a newbie coming here who’s desperate that ”sounds like” what they have. That’s just going to send them down the wrong path, waste their money, prolong the appropriate treatment for what is really causing thei ...
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