As I am reading threads in the support section and this one as well, I’ve come to realize that people here follow Jim Humble’s sayings word by word. I think that’s irresponsible and silly. Jim Humble discovered MMS almost by mistake as did Alexander Flemming discover Pennecilin. Now, you wouldn’t ask Mr. Flemming how much to take, when to take it, how to take it, etc....so why do so many people rely on Jim Humble to tell them every specific detail about MMS? I think it’s gotten to the point that Jim himself seems to be tired, bored and somewhat confused during his most recent intervi ...
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Interesting. I also have somewhat the opposite effect. I actually sleep better and seem to need less sleep.   [End]
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Yeah, OR WATER...he says that clearly in his book. He’s telling people to use the juice now so that people can endure the nasty taste...I’m almost certain beyond any reasonable doubt that mixing it with water makes it much more effective - I’ve seen the dramatic difference in results with my own eyes.   [End]
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I’ve actually only thrown up once while taking MMS and it was about 4 months ago - 2 hours after taking a super activated (waited 10 minutes) 19-20 drop dose on an empty stomach. I think the throwing up part is ”mind over matter”. If you keep thinking about the nausea - and the smell ...Lol...then it will make it easier for you to throw up....if you plug your nose while taking it, drink a little ”chaser” say 4 oz of water immediately afterwards and try to relax and ignore the nausea, you should be find....that’s just how it works for me.   [End]
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My theory has always been if you’re going to do something, do it right. I took a 3 month break from MMS and just began what I feel is the best MMS protocal...the one Jim Humble used in his book - and thus far the results have been amazing. My new protocal: Take 15 drops in the morning activated for 5 minutes then mixed with WATER, usually within minutes of getting up, on an empty stomach...yeah, it sucks, but no pain, no gain!!! After 30 minutes or so I’ll have a cup of coffee, then wait another 30 minutes and eat a VERY light breakfast, if any at all. Go to work, eat a normal lun ...
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The amount you’re taking is VERY little. 1-2 drops daily is just scratching the surface. I bet it has to do with the fact that your body has become more tolerant to the MMS and rendering it less effective. Plus the fact that you eat regularly also will lessen the effects of just a 1-2 drop dose. I myself have started on my intense MMS protocol of 15 drops 3 times a day - 3 days ago - and as of today, I can already feel my body accepting it more easily. I would recommend you start doing more drops....try going up to 4-6 drops a day, see if it makes a difference.   [End]
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I agree 100% I posted a similar post saying that that MMS ”feels” much more potent when taken with water vs apple juice - even the kind with no added vit. C. - several months ago.   [End]
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I was wondering how much of a syngergystic effect MMS & excercise would have together. Basically, I have a feeling that if one was to excercise within 20 -30 minutes after taking the MMS, it would allow the MMS to be absorbed more quickly and spread around your system. Wouldn’t that make sense?? For example, take your regular dose of MMS...wait 15 - 30 minutes, then do 200 jumping jacks, or jog, or some other type of cardio....I’m going to try it and let you guys know if I notice any better results.   [End]
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Is it ok to drink coffee while on MMS protocal?   [End]
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I was wondering....what if you were to drink alcohol while on MMS?? I don’t think its ever been addressed. Like different quantities could yield different side effects. For example: If I were to take MMS in the morning then have a few drinks at night - about 12 hours away from the MMS - then take the MMS again the following morning, would it neutrilize the effect of the MMS??   [End]
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I agree...I found that the more activator and the longer you wait after mixing the stronger the solution is.   [End]
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Well, the whole reason they got a patent for it was because they were claiming it DID work. That’s at least what I think I read.   [End]
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I found that the information on the patent just about PROVES that MMS does work. What I want to know is why hasn’t the company that holds the patent used it??   [End]
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Answer to #3 for those that don’t want to use the link: Action Mining was established in 1979 by Jim Humble, Mike Glenn, and a few others when we were mining our own sulfide ore property in the Panamint Mountain Range near Trona California. The CLSes™ (concentrate leach solution) were developed for successfully leaching this type of ore without the use of cyanide.  Jim’s background was firmly established in research, Mike was a licensed building contractor in construction and mechanical engineering. Both men had chemistry backgrounds. I attended to the office. It was a ...
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Answer to #3: Yes: http://www.actionmining.com/page11.html Ouch...does that hurt?? lol   [End]
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The longer you let it sit after 3 minutes of activation, the stronger it gets, period. I don’t care what anyone says, I can prove it. I’ve read that it gets gradually weaker after 3 minutes and that is 100% INCORRECT! It may start getting weaker after 20 or 30 minutes, I have never waited that long but I know for a fact that after 10-12 minutes it is MUCH STRONGER THAN AFTER 3 MINUTES. I also think there is a direct correletion to the amount of activator you use. The more (up to a certain amount) you use, the STRONGER THE SOLUTION. This morning I took a 10 drop dose activated with 1 ...
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I’m going to ”mega” dose with the MMS today. I just took what looked to be another 100 ppm dose....16 drops activated with just under 1 tsp of lime juice for 7 minutes. For the first time ever I actually felt the MMS going down my throat - I felt a slight burning sensation, kind of like when you have a herx reaction. I plan on taking another 16 drop dose in about an hour....then wait another 2-3 hours and take another.   [End]
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What is the best way to make a ”gel” for topical usage using MMS? (28% solution) This would be used for the skin for either absorbtion or topical usage for rashes, etc.   [End]
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I actually didn’t take any more doses yesterday nor this morning. I took a 12 drop dose about an hour ago and I am 100% fine...absolutely 0 nasea. I really do believe it became so strong because I let it sit out so long. Tonight I only let it activate for 6 - 7 minutes and it was much less intense. Also, by comparing it to Silverfox’s pictures, it was closer to the 10 ppm pic than the 100ppm pic. I think I will grandually increase dose until I can tolerate 15-18 drops....I will also not let it activate for more than 8 minutes from now on.   [End]
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I was wondering if anyone here has tried taking aloe vere juice with MMS/ while taking MMS/ or away from the MMS. If anyone has, have they had any extra beneficial effects from it? Is it something that shouldn’t be taken with the MMS? The reason I was wondering is that I read that if you take aloe vera juice with vitamin C it increases the potency of vitamin C by up to 300%. Being that you cannot take MMS with vitamin C, I was wondering if that was the case with aloe vera.   [End]
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Wow....it looked JUST LIKE THE ONE ON THE LEFT!!! The one that is 100 ppm...that’s amazing....I’m starting to think that the strength of the solution is directly correlated to the A) The amount of activator/type you use - in my case I used just under 1 teaspoon for a 15 drop dose....2) The length of time you leT IT ”ACTIVATE” for.   [End]
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I took a 2 week break off MMS b/c I had a general better sense of overall well being. I noticed a rash pn my chest re-emerge a couple of days ago and waited to see if it would go away on its own. It didn’t so I decided to start up again. I took a 15 drop dose this morning (I maxed out at 18 drops 3 X a day when I was taking it before so I figured 15 drops wouldn’t be a big deal), I activated the dose with lime juice. In the meantime I was getting ready for work so I figured a good ten minutes went by before I went back, diluted it with water and drank it. The first thing I noticed aft ...
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The first time around (about 1 month ago) I started out at 6 drops 3 X a day, then up tp 8 X3, 12 X3, 15 X 3, and by the fifth day I was up to 18 X 3 for 3 days then I had to stop for a week. At most of the 15+ 3 X a day doses, I felt nausea and I had D throughtout the entire time I was taking it. When U started up again, about a week later, I went to 15 drops 1 X a day for about 1 week, then I uped it to 15-18 X 2 times a day for 4 or 5 days....now I am on a break again....have been for the last 2 days.   [End]
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Your new tests should be interesting.   [End]
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:lol:   [End]
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I noticed a VERY BIG difference between using juice & water! I’ve been on a 15 - 18 drop dose 1-2 times a day for about 10 days now. I had been using fresh Apple Juice with supposedly no added vitamin C. It seemed to go down fairly easy with little to no nausea afterwards. Well, today I ran out of apple juice so I mixed it with distilled water. I activated 18 drops with 1 ts of lime juice waited 5 - 6 minutes and then mixed with distilled water. Wow!! What a difference! I immediately felt it hit my stomach and it burned. By the time I made it to work...about 45 min later I felt re ...
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Why is that? Is Jim affiliated with that site?   [End]
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I would think that would be dangerous....Jim Humble mentions the use for/ around the eye somwhere...either in his book or on his former website video...activated MMS is a very strong acid that can burn skin...it happened to me :) If you do decide to use it you should probably use it unactivated or if activated diluted with at least 4 oz of water. JMO.   [End]
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I find that strange....It’s completely GONE!!! ...and the weirdest part is that you are automatically redirected to:http://mmsmiracle.com/JimHumbleMMS which is a site that sells it.   [End]
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what happened to it?   [End]
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I think you have lost your mind...lol...in a good way, I guess. I think your ”experiments” are honorable and somewhat harmeless but if I were you, I would be careful....especially around kids. You never know if their parents see you interacting with them, etc, they may get the wrong idea...or if one of them decides to tell their parents that you were harassing them, etc....just some friendly advice. As to your experiments, I find them very interesting....but they don’t suprise me. Sodioum Chlorite or Chlorine Dioxide should kill any bacteria or viruses outside the body. That’s what ...
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Do you think the news about MMS is spreading? And if it is, how long will it be before critcs try to ban it? It seems to me that this forum seems to get more and more posts everyday. If it continues to spread like this, they will start regulating this stuff in no time.   [End]
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I’m no expert by any means but isn’t 15 drops 2X a day for 2 months a little excessive? He probably should scale back a little....maybe even take a week off and do some heavy supplementation. That’s what I did and I’m actually able to tolerate the MMS much better now that I did the supplementation for a week.   [End]
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Interesting interview....I am still listening to it. Bruce keeps on hammering the ”hazardous chemical” in reference to 28% solution. Adam is actually standing up to Bruce in a polite & concise manner....impressive. To give Bruce credit, when he is calling the MMS a ”snake oil” he means that it is the closest thing to a LEGITIMATE cureall.....NOT the traditional usage of the word - which means something that is sold as a cureall but is worthless. Kudos to both Adam Abraham & Bruce for an intelligent and polite debate.   [End]
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The amount of MMS you take varies on problem and body weight. A general rule of thumb is 2 drops per 25 lbs of body weight. You don’t want to start off that high but I personally would start off higher than 1 drop, depending on how tolerant your body is to foreign substances. I weigh roughly 200 lbs and I started off with 6 drops 3 X a day and had no ill effects. The next day I went up to 8 drops 3 X a DAY, still no ill effects. After 4 days I maxed out at 18 drops 3X a day, then had to back down to 15 -16 drops 1X -2X a days b/c of nausea. For your case of candida, topical applica ...
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I have been using MMS now for about 3 weeks (took 1 week off and supplemented heavy, now back on MMS 1X - 2X a day 15-16 drops each time) I am happy with my results so far. I actually ordered 3 bottles from 3 different vendors just so I could see if there were any differences between the 3. Besides the packaging, I noticed very little....although I have not tested any of them. Now I was wondering, b/c I know the shelf life of Sodium Chlorite flaked is much longer than the shelf life of the solution, I would like to know the best storage for the Sodium Chlorite flakes, if I were to ord ...
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That’s really great news. I believe there is a section in Jim Humbles book about using MMS as a oral antiseptic...chapter 10, I believe. How did you obtain your result? Just ingesting it? Brushing? Garglin? All three?   [End]
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Very interesting. Do you know his exact protocal? For example: does he take the flaxseed oil in the morning & MMS at night? How much and how often does he take the MMS and how long has he been taking it??   [End]
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It is a concern that the MMS does not get to certain areas such as: upper respiratory area, throat, lungs, lymph nodes, sinus, etc. Isn’t that where 90% of infections infect?? I like Hellth’s idea on experimenting with ear and nose drops....seems very interesting. When you post your results, please post the amount and type of liquid you are diluting the MMS with and whether you are activating it or not, just so we don’t cause people to use the wrong amount. I used straight MMS (activated)on my arm and it butnt me pretty bad....it happend 2 weeks ago and is finally just healing up this ...
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I’ve been using your technique and I must say it is working rather well. I usually don’t brush my teeth afterwards so after I unplugg my nose I do get a little after taste - but NOT nearly as bad as before. Great advice!   [End]
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Jim Humble says only do it that way with a doctor present. Even Jim had a doctor (or nurse) present when he did it on his website. You would probably have to go to Mexico in order to find a doctor willing to inject someone with it.   [End]
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From my understanding it is sensitive to oxygen...or at least our ”air” here on Earth. I believe Jim stated somewhere in his book that if you spilled some MMS that it should be dried off immediately b/c it will dry rather quickly and form crystals. This being the case, then yes, our air will affect it.....how much, I don’t know.   [End]
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I had a question on how I would make the 1000ppm mouthwash with the 22% MMS solution? If I wanted to make a 1000ppm mouthwash with the regular MMS solution and I wanted to make about 1 litre....how much MMS would I use for the 1 litre?   [End]
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Ok...some great info. in there....thank you! I had another question concerning the diluted mixture. Does it really matter how much your diluting the MMS aftrter activation, unless you are taking it on a completely empty stomach? Think about it...if you eat or drink anything within 2-3 hours of taking the MMS it will automnatically be diluted in your stomach even further with whatever you eat or drink....isn’t that the case? So if I drink a full glass of water after taking the activated MMS it would be the equivolent of diluting the MMS with a full glass of water. This is something n ...
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This is somewhat confusing. I’ve been using just under 1 ts of lime juice to activate 15 drops of MMS. From what your saying, I may be using too much activator b/c of the vit C that is in the lime juice may neutrilize the solution. According to Jim Humble it is ok to use more activator....but from what your saying, it is not. Am I using too much activator?? Cold you actually do me a huge favor (since you’ve become our official amatuer chemist...lol), and test how many ppm is being released the way I’m activating it....15 drops of MMS with 45-50 drops (just under 1 ts of lime juice).   [End]
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Awesome...thanks for your help Silverfox....it is much appreciated.   [End]
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Any updates? Feeling better?   [End]
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Which brand of Apple juice have people here used? I am currently using Florida’s Natural that is supposedly 100% pure Apple Juice WITH NO ADDED VIT C. I’m mixing a 15 drop dose with about a teaspoon of lime juice...waiting 3-4 minutes then diluting with 2-3 oz of this apple juice. It’s been the only way I can tolerate the taste/smell/aftertaste/burping, etc. The reason I am asking this is b/c silverfox (I think that’s his name) tested the ppm of sodium chloride with the apple juice mix and he said it registered at 0. I want to make sure I am not using the same apple juice he used.   [End]
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Thanks for the info.! I notice alot of people say to drink water with a high ph. Why is that so important??   [End]
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That makes sense. How far did you space out the vitamins from the MMS? Taking the MMS in the evening/night...then the vitamins/suppliments in the morning?   [End]
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Hello BioSafe....I don’t believe we’ve ever had an exchange but I have read many of your posts. I personally don’t think your out to hurt anyone...I think your doing the opposite actually, your trying to help & educate people. This is a somewhat new and controversial subject so of course you will not agree or disagree with many people on the forum. That’s what these forums are for though...educated debate...in order to further educate. I understand that you are launching your own product, which is fine....who knows how many incognito MMS sales people are on here?? You never know.... ...
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I started using MMS a few weeks ago. Used it straight for 9 days....worked my way up to 18 drops 3X a day. Tried 20 a couple of times then realized it was too much so I backed down to 18 drops. I felt that it had cleared out my system...I had a rash that seemed to subside as well as a sinus infection & trouble sleeping, slight night sweats.....that all went away after 3-4 days on the MMS. The MMS was starting to get to me...couldn’t really enjoy my food...everything tasted like a chlorine/bleach mix...uhhh....so I decided to stop takin it after 9 days and start heavy supplementation on ...
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Today I took 20 drops X 3....defenitely noticed it today. I took my first dose around 11 am, 2nd dose around 1:30 pm....then 3rd at 4:30 pm - that’s the closest and most MMS I’ve ever taken....I did notice a difference. After my 3rd dose I felt some heartburn....and slight chest pain, yes, slight chest pain. Slight nausea that lasted for about 30 minutes....no D since I took the doses...had some this morning before I started the doses. I think I took too much, too close together....last time I do that....I’ll still take 20 drops but I’ll be sure to spread them out better. I’m treatin ...
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I’ve had a couple of spots on my left arm for a few weeks now that wouldn’t go away.  So this morining I decided to activate about 20 drops of MMS and pour some of the activated MMS directley on the spots.  I then got band -aids, soaked the middle part of the bad-aidm and placed one on each spot.  I felt a tingling sensation for a few hours so I decided to take the band-aids off to see what was going on.  The MMS burnt the hell out of my arm!!!  Burnt all the hair off where the band-aids were as well as 2 nickel size burnt marks.  I think this is due to my own ...
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That’s mre or less what I do....usually wait about 1/2 hour or and hour and start drinking water. Usually will wait that long as well before or after eating.   [End]
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I also use the real lime out of the green lime plastic bottle....works fine. I was using ACV until just about everyone on here said only use it as a last resort. Funny thing though, for some reason I thought the ACV may have been slightly stronger....I used less and got just about the same strength (I’m just guessing on strength by going by how strong the smell of chlorine is from the mixture after 5 minutes - I know, it’s completely non-scientific but seems to work). I am mixing it right now with filtered Brita water from the fridge...although that will soon come to an end b/c the ta ...
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Sounds to me like your a sore loser....stop whining so much. How much do you weigh?? Maybe 15 drops 2X a day wasn’t enough. JH says that the dose should be based on body weight. For a 200 lb man 20 drops would be the equivolent of 15 drops for a 150 -160 lb man....think about that for a seconed. For what syptoms were you using it for?? It is primarily used to kill bacteria & viruses that are anaerobic...what was yours? For you to come here and say it doesn’t work for any disease or for any person just because IT DIDN’T WORK FOR YOU ON A SPECIFIC DISEASE is wrong, period. There are ...
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I started using the MMS 5 days ago and I am up to 18 drops 3 x a day. Now before everyone out there calls me crazy, I’d like to say that I have yet to get very nauseous from it....my 2nd day there was a little at my 2nd 12 drop dose....but hardley even notice the stuff ever since. Now the reason I am taking such a high dose is that Jim Humble himself says that the dose should be taken in comparison to body weight. He basically says that if an average person weighs 160 lbs....they should be taking the 15 drop dose....if someone weighs twice that much, they should take twice the dose!!!!! ...
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You should really give MMS a try.....it’ll only cost you about $20 and it’ll last you a year....probably the least expensive treatment out there....most bang for your $$.   [End]
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That is bothersome....why would they delete your original post??? There was a comment by Bruce calling the MMS ”snakeoil”....but he wanted someone in the U.S. to market his version of it anyway.....hmmmm.....suspicious.   [End]
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LOL....I’m sure it was Abraham that approached Jim....not the other way around. I think I actually even saw a clip in which Abraham says something along the lines of, ”Jim is in a better mood today”....relating to the fact that something may have happened the day before....like Jim telling Abraham to go pound some sand....lol.   [End]
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You seem to stress the point the ”you would take alot of them”....is that b/c of the MMS releasing alot of free radicals so you need them even more or is that just b/c you would anyway.   [End]
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I understand that vitamin C essentially smothers the effects of MMS but what do other pro-immune system suppliments do....such as the following: Selenium? Ecinachea? Golden Seal? St. John’s Wort? Has anyone heard of any pros/ cons/ synergistic effects with any of the above mentioned??   [End]
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Yes, you are right....but Jim should be more aware of what he says in a documentary....or at least mention the fact that people have injected MMS but just the the activated form of it....and SO SHOULD THE PRODUCER OF THE VIDEO. JMO.   [End]
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Oh, I see now....he was the first to IV the ACTIVATED form instead of the regular MMS....MY Mistake.....Sorry,.....STILL VERY CONFUSING THOUGH....they should BE very careful in editing the video so people understand that.   [End]
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I agree with you that other than close family, I won’t tell anyone about MMS b/c of the risks involved. There’s way too much at risk....someone could easily screw up the solution and OD....or worse, even kill themselves....Jim Humble even says it himself that people really need to be trained to take this stuff. I understand the fact that he may have been the 1st to do it that way but what bothers me is the fact that he says at the end that NO ONE ELSE HAS EVER DONE IT THAT WAY, THAT HE IS THE ONLY ONE....which could be true....now if that was true then the whole section in his book abo ...
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He actually goes on to say that he is ”the only one to ever have done it that way...no one else has ever done it that way” Which is even MORE of a contradiction of what is in his book.   [End]
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I would like to start off by saying that I am a proponent of MMS....I’ve been using it for 3 days and am enjoying the benefits so far. What I discovered today though seems to REALLY bother me. Jim contradicts himself in the new docyumentary he is making: ”Understanding MMS” - http://phaelosopher.wordpress.com/2007/11/28/understanding-mms-video-diary-day-2/ That is a link to the video....watch the video and listen carefully....he flat out says that he is the ”first person ever to inject himself with MMS” and goes on to say that ”NO ONE HAS EVER DONE THAT BEFORE.” That completely ...
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Great idea about wrapping the bottle in aluminum foil...I’ll do that with mine...just keep in a place where any child cannot access it. (I have a 2 yearold...best to keep it away from him) I don’t think that dropping the MMS in drinking water will have any MAJOR benefits other than purifying the water itself...and if you are just using it to purify the water, then the longevity of it shouldn’t matter. Once it has killed what needs to kill in the water, it can safely go away....as long as you don’t re-contaminate your water...which unless it takes you days to drink a pitcher of water, w ...
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I think Jim advised against storing it in the fridge b/c of the light exposure it would get from people always opening & closing the fridge. From my understanding, the #1 killer of this solution is direct sunlight....and the #2 killer is any light at all....makes me wonder why they didn’t put the solution in copletely opaque bottles vs. translucent ones.....and why they picked green bottles vs. brown....brown bottles tend to block UV rays while green bottles don’t.   [End]
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I just took my second 15 drop dose....it was roughly 2 1/2 hours since the first. I did have some D when I woke up this morning before I took the 1st dose....but none since....I haven’t had to go yet.....I defenitely feel something going on in my stomach this time....NOT NAUSEA THOUGH....more like slight heartburn with a little tingle....feels good in a weird way....makes me know something is going on. I will now wait until tonight to take the 3rd & final dose of the day.   [End]
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I just took my 1st 15 drop dose 1/2 hour ago. This is my story: I ordered the MMS on Thursday and I did not feel like waiting for it to arrive b/c I didn’t know how long it would take so I went out and bought some stabilized oxygen on Friday. I took 3 doses of the stabilzed oxygen (each dose equilvolent to about 6-8 drop doses of MMS) - all 3 doses were activated and the 1st 2 1 hour apart and the 3rd before I went ot bed. Felt fine, no nausea at all. I took my first dose yesterdeay (Saturday) about 12 pm of the stabilized oxygen activated eq. to 6-8 drops of MMS. To my suprise m ...
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Good to know! Thanks for your response!   [End]
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I smoke cigarettes....my worst habbit. I have tried to stop and hopefully soon will. My question is will the MMS first attack all the carcinogens and impurities caused by my smoking before it attacks anything else?? So essentially would be useless to take the MMS b/c I smoke??   [End]
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Thanks for your response. I have a feeling that the Aerobic o7 doesn’t have more than 3.5% or they would have probably stated it on the bottle but you never know. Going by those #’s and multiplying it by 12 (b/c the drops out of this small bottle I believe are smaller than the drops of the standard MMS bottle - I believe Jim says that in his book) so I figured I took the equivolent to 6 drops. I’m 5’11 and around 200 lbs (and also have a high tolerance to just about any drug or foreign substance) so I fugured 6 drops would be ok to start with. My concern is that I did not use nearly ...
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I just ordered some MMS and have read the book. I find it almost unbelievable but I am willing to give it a try. I didn’t feel like waiting for the week or so that it will take for it to arrive in the mail so I went out and bought some stabilized oxygen at my local vitamin store. The stabilized oxygen I bought is called Aerobic O7 and it does contain Sodium Chlorite. I was wondering if anyone out there knows how much Sodium Chlorite is in this solution - if it is the standard 3.5% solution that Jim talks about having used before inventing MMS? And if so, since you have to use betwee ...
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