it seems the natural things are the most powerful eh. I forgot to mention I also got and still get help from a product that naturally produces melatonin. I use Pure Planet, Tart Cherry Concentrate, which I get at www.iherb.com When I took a melatonin supplement I get a headache, but not with the cherry concentrate. I started with 1 Tbls, but now take 1/2 of that each night before sleeping. It makes me fall asleep faster. I also take Supreme Fulvic liquid minerals which I think is at www.supremefulvic.com What I found from this product is that it is very calming to the nervous sys ...
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The Earthing products manufacture has sold many thousands of items with very few incidents of stray ground activity, and to my understanding if there is an unpleasant feel to the product, it is nearly always due to some faulty wiring situation in the particular house. But to help eliminate that possibility they provide an outlet ground checker to know if the outlet does provide a good ground. But still there is always some small possibility of some ”noise” from adjacent wiring even if your house is wired correctly. You will know as Earthing doesn’t create a negative feel to it in anyway. ...
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Found other Earthing testimonials and one very detailed on Lupus and another on lyme’s disease and how Earthing removed the symptoms in 3-4 months. See http://www.earthingfairfield.com/Earthing-Testimonals.html Interesting how the earth energy helps conditions that have inflammation.   [End]
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I have adrenal fatigue and chronic structural problems that have kept me from sleeping deep most of my life. I am 64. I have done a lot of things suggested on CureZone especially the various cleanses. And yet I had continued to be bothered by various symptoms especially shallow sleep and fatigue and discomfort. It is my experience that good Sleep is everything when it comes to repairing and rebuilding the body. I was turned on to Earthing a little over 2 years ago by a friend who eliminated her lupus symptoms by using an Earthing Sheet for about 3 to 4 months. It didn’t happen overnight ...
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Always better to have skin contact with the product. If one is cold or lives where winter’s are cold, they can still get continuity or flow between the mat and the body with wearing light socks or light clothing. Again this is not the preferable way, but is more preferable then not using the product because you think you can’t unless you are having skin contact. Did not mean to imply it was the best to use it. ---------------------------------------- The rubber mat, probably due to the material design of carbonize rubber is conductive over the entire surface, every little spec of it ...
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The 36 x 120 inch half sheet original design intent was to run it across the bottom of a king size bed and have enough material to be tucked in underneath the bottom mattress. This way 2 sets of legs could lay on it. The factory was making a shorter version, but due to the difficulty in getting cotton at a reasonable price (this is understanding given) is now only making the larger Bed Pad Sheet, and it will fit all sizes of bed. If only one person is using the bed, then you might want to run in length wise and tuck it in on both ends, which this longer 120 inch sheet will do. This ...
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Hi Willow, The last paragraph quote that you pasted from the manufacture is what I am referring to. If you use the 10 x 20 inch carbonized rubber Mat without the optional cover, but instead with wearing light cotton socks, you will get a ground. Also again the rubber mat if used in your bed, it will make a conductive ground connection through very light cotton PJs or socks. The Earthing Sheet products will Not do this, as they are not as intensely conductive it seems as the rubber mat. The problem with the mat though is that it is small for the bed. But I do know many people using th ...
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You ideally need skin contact with your Earthing mat or sheet to have it work effectively. If you are wearing very thin cotton clothing, the mat will also work or ground your body. The flow of the earth’s energy or free negative electrons or the healing part of Earthing will flow through very thin clothing, but not silk. Jim   [End]
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Is it considered ok to use the FIR sauna heat when one has a rib that is probably out of alignment, and it hurts to breath deep and can’t sleep on the sore rib (right) side as it might pop out again. The chiro recommendation is ice it up. I have been doing that, but I keep wondering if my sauna would speed up recovery or worse yet slow it down? what is the conventional FIR sauna wisdom on this subject? thanks, Jim   [End]
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Thanks Marlene. I realize that you are simply sharing with us how you made MMS work for you and how long it really takes to see results....and that we all need to find a comfortable pattern for taking MMS for ourselves. I am so inspired by your conviction and then your dramatic improvements over time. Your comments and what I have read on the Jim Humble website made me want to investigate the protocol and find out if the continuous every 2 hours taking of MMS is more effective then the 2 daily blasts at higher amounts. It is interesting that his website sort of mixes the 2 protocol ...
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Hi MMS readers. I have not posted in a long time. I have been reading MMS posts lately and started taking the drops about 20 days ago. I am a bit confused or unsure about how best to proceed with the MMS protocol. I have been doing the original twice a day and up one drop unless there is detox symptom. I am currently at 13 and 13, taken in the AM about 1.5 to 2 hours before breakfast and again in the PM at least 2 hours after a light evening meal. I have other supplements I take at bedtime so I take the MMS earlier. I have been taking it all with water and Holding My Nose when I gulp ...
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http://www.mydentistaz.com/services.html is this what you are looking for? Jim   [End]
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Hi I am curious if you stuck it out with MMS and you had success with clearing out your sinuses? I have not started MMS yet. Got it sitting here, but decided to wait till the holidays are over due to all the detox stories I have read. I also have a chronic sinus congestion problem and want to see if MMS is the answer. Also just read the Chelorex heavy metal website which sounds great....when the money is there to do it. thanks :O)   [End]
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daermo, Hi I am just reading posts and I wanted to ask you, does your statement mean that even though your head is not inside the little portable sauna unit, your head area was still sweating? I have simply been using two portable FIR space heaters that I sit between in a small bathroom. And I go in the room when the heat reaches 105 degrees and have the heaters about 18 inches from me front and back. I sweat like crazy in about 5 minutes. I do have to keep moving around till I start sweating as the heaters create hot spots on the body until the sweating takes place. Does the port ...
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Hi MamaCat Patch, The Humaworm can make some people constipated. Must drink more water then normal to help off set that. And I found that I had to use more OxyPowder then I normally use on the OP maintainance program. I would suggest taking the OP before bed. Maybe start off with 2 capsuls and see if that is enough to get you going again, if not take 3 the next night. But you might need to take 2 or 3 every other night to keep things flowing or another way is to take 1 or 2 every night before bed. So the long answer to your question is the 2 products are compatable per Humaworm and ...
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Hi does anyone know if it would be OK to do one’s oil pullling right after taking the morning or afternoon dose of Humaworm...you while you are waiting the 1/2 hour before you can eat? I saw a post saying someone did the OP BEFORE taking the morning dose, but that requires waiting additional time (another 20 mintues) before eating and I am on a schedule :o) So I guess I am trying to figure out if there would be any lessening of the effectiveness of the Humaworm herbs if the oil pulling procedure is done right after taking the 2 capsuls. thanks.   [End]
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http://www.bioenergy.com/Index.php?Content=NewsRoom112806-2 DG, I was just reading posts and saw your last one about having CHF. A friend told me about this supplement for the heart and found this release on it, it is called D-ribose Here is a quote from the above link...”Finally, patients who suffer from congestive heart failure (CHF) appear to have an effective means of improving their quality of life. A recent study indicates NYHA Class III-IV CHF patients receiving an oral D-ribose supplement in conjunction with standard medical therapy exhibit measurable improvement in ...
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thanks for the heads up on OxyP use. I will use only as needed.   [End]
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2nd day on Huma cleanse and I noticed lots of very tiny little white dots of material in and around my stools. could this be eggs of some sort or too soon to have this come out? thanks Jim Edit....also I forgot on the first day starting about 2 hours after the first 2 capsuls, I had allergies start up and last all day, runny nose, sneezing and congestion. By today, the next morning it was gone. I have not been experiencing any allergies since last fall, so I was suprised, but then I figured it was die off?   [End]
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Can I assume that taking Oxypowder is compatable too with Humaworm? And excuse if the answers are here, I just this post and added my question, but what we be the suggestion for taking any other supplements that one might normally take in the morning, like adrenal herbs? Would I take th humaworm first and then wait 1/2 hour before taking anything else? Food I understand you wait at least 1/2 hour after, but what about other herbs, do they need a 1/2 hour later also? Or should they come first and then the humaworm next/ thanks   [End]
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I am new to this discussion and don’t know your history, nor have I bothered to read all the pages previous or all your posts in this forum. But I am curious if you have done a flush/es and if you bothered ( since you are so inquisitive) to have a lab analysis done of what came out to answer your own question? If so would you mind posting those results. Thanks for your particiaption. Wishing all the best of health! Jim   [End]
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Cudos to Spirit to his careful methods....though I have to think there is a lab he could send the stones to for analysis and know for sure. Also I don’t see how the olive oil explanation can create the thousands of tan and various other shades of brown, black and yellow stones that I have had come out. And all the ”tons” of hard little gravel and also the much larger hard shelled tan stones with dark ,dried up centers. Jim   [End]
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Hi Johanna, Did you have food allergies that caused sinus problems or mainly airborne allergies? I have noticed that my airborne allergies have dramatically improved this summer also...and I would give credit to the flushes and cleansing. My food allergies are still there though and I keep hoping that they will go also. But the core problems which is a blockage somewhere inside the right side of brain sinuses is always there draining and making me umcomfortable. And it is connected to my right ear and (with ear aches) and the swollen gland. Also I have the root canals there also.... ...
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I was wondering if anyone who has a few root canals and maybe swollen glands near the ears and jaw And maybe some sinus problems had seen a significant decrease in these symptoms or other problems by ONLY doing cleanses especially the Liver Flushes???.....that is, you did not extract the evil, bacteria ladden root canal. I keep wondering if I need to have my two root canals removed (already did the amalgam removal) in order to get at the ”root” of the problem. I know this is not the root canal forum, but I want the opinion or experience of flushers and cleansers to see if that is enough ...
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try this link, his first link sticks a comma in the address so it gives an error http://www.worldofteeth.com/ if you do get a comma after the .com, then remove comma and refresh.   [End]
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Hi Johanna...I am one week into my Clarkia parasite cleanse and I would like to know if I understood you correctly...I would like to get back into the every 2 week pattern on the Liver Flushes and so this week I should do another one. Should I just stop my Clarkia for the 2 days and then go back and continue afterwards? Seems to make sense as long as I am not stopping the effectiveness of the parasite cleanse. ***Also if anyone knows, and from what I can tell from reading it is anyone’s guess, but I have been stirring through my feces the last couple of days and there is a ton of ...
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http://www.theholistichorse.com/index.php?page=details&id=343 $15.78 for 5 pounds.   [End]
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Jessina...thanks for the paragone heads up, will check it out. I did a google on D.E. http://www.freshwaterorganics.com/DE_for_Humans.htm $5.95 1# human grade D.E. plus how to use it for detoxifying parasites. http://www.herbalremedies.com sells 6 oz but more $ http://www.diatomearth.net/de4_003.htm might be the best deal...need to be sure it is food grade. 3# $14 plus ship. sounds really valuable to add to the kill!   [End]
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so do you just stay at 30 or keep adding a few drops each day?...and do a full 2 weeks and then stop a week? and then start another 2 weeks? and if you don’t mind me asking...have you ever taken the drops from the other entrance?...enema ;o) they make it sound more effective at killing the critters. I was also thinking about the $10 zapper, but noticed you hadn’t seen results eh? thanks.   [End]
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you are all very caring and helpful people. Thank you very much! Did any of you have any trouble sleeping though? I have crazy dreams that keep jarring me awake, or make me toss and turn all night. I caved and took half of a valium my friend had, just to get some rest for once. It helped and i got some rest. Do you have any other ideas? Otherwise- god bless Dave   [End]
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If anyone has used the Clarkia drops, can you tell me if it is okay to start with 10 drops? I did an earlier non tincture parasite Clark cleanse...2 years ago and didn’t notice a thing come out or any cleanse detox symptoms. Also have done several liver flushes and a few bowel cleanses...so I would like to jump right in at 10 drops, does that make sense or better to be conservative and start at 3 drops? thanks.   [End]
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thanks Jessina on the input on your body’s output from the Para-Busters. Good to know it works. I had noticed also it was out of stock, so I ordered some Clarkia to get started. I wanted to do both....but maybe I can find a small amount of D.Earth so I do to order 10#’s. Too bad you can’t use swimming pool D.E. We used it on our swimming pool filter grids when we had a pool growing up in L.A.   [End]
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the name alone is makes it worth trying...will do! thanks.   [End]
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I have been trying to decide which products to use and I noticed that the Oxy Powder people sell a parasite product that’s main ingredient is the diatomacous earth. It is little expenssive at $29.95 and unlike OxyP there are no testimonals. See: http://www.oxypowder.com/parabuster.html they say it slices and dices the critters.   [End]
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I suspect the thing about Ayurveda is that the complete knowledge of it is still coming out, not only in the West, but also even in India appearantly. I had heard a talk ( from an Indian Ayurvedic company)that explained how the Vayjas (doctors of Ayurveda) for the most part had their knowledge from the previous generation. Not much had been written down and to some extent the original purity of the source of this information was not being used. The source being the recorded hymns of the enlightened seers from thousands of years ago in the Vedas. So there has been a lot of corners cut wh ...
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Kids (they say) like marriage creates twice the bliss and twice the boundaries (over staying single)...and if you have twins it must be quadruaple the bliss and boundaries :o)lucky you, no kids here....boring! One of my biggest desires is to be able to eat wheat (puris, chapatis and nan) and to eat rice dishes without feeing congested. I have pretty much given up on that wonderful part of Indin dinning. When I can eat those problem foods with no reaction I will feel very satisfied with all this internal cleansing work. Enjoy your divine meal.   [End]
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thanks for the links...oh yes that debate on is it really M.P.... Dr. Richard Anderson is sure convinced that it is and defines it in detail....but what the heck, you are right you have to decide for yourself. It is similiar to the debate on stones and what they are made of. None of it matters as long as the results (better health) are there and there are no negative side effects. I tend to believe that most all this stuff works and what I get from you is we just need to find out what works for us in a comfortable way and get the job done.   [End]
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Johanna...thanks so much for sharing more details with us. I learn so much more when you get the ”rest of the story”. I have been away from CZ for a several months and I appreciate learning and catching up from those with lots of experience and knowledge. I don’t have Andreas book, I see there is a new one also. Would you recommend getting the 2nd one if you know? I like that he is positive about Oxy P. My experience and feeling on it was that done in moderation that it is not aggrevating to Vata. Most the cleansing is not that accepted by Ayurveda as aggrevates vata dosha so much.... ...
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Johanna, This is kind of a continuation of my post in the Liver Flush forum today. I just have to wonder if someone has layers of mucaloid plaque in their colon from years of constipation... if Oxy Powder is or will really disolve all that away. I know that is what is stated, but I wonder if that is the case. I have only done one (1) week Oxy P super cleanse and then have been on maintainance for several months. I do love the product as I know I am not leaving anything behind each day....inside the digestive track. But then I go do another Bowel cleanse and gobs of ropey slims ...
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Johanna, This is kind of a continuation of my post in the Liver Flush forum today. I just have to wonder if someone has layers of mucaloid plaque in their colon from years of constipation... if Oxy Powder is or will really disolve all that away. I know that is what is stated, but I wonder if that is the case. I have only done one (1) week Oxy P super cleanse and then have been on maintainance for several months. I do love the product as I know I am not leaving anything behind each day....inside the digestive track. But then I go do another Bowel cleanse and gobs of ropey slims ...
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Hopefully someone who has more knowledge with solving the diarhea will post to you. But the general advise on Colonix and other cleansing products is to stop taking them when you have this problem. Maybe you have, but just wanted to add that. Also to eat things that slow down elimination like rice and yogurt. And take some probiotics to help normalize the bowels also. Wishing you relief.   [End]
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Johanna, How interesting and yes challanging that you know you have a large stone lurking in your GB. I know you have been here for a long time, just curious if you have tried any of the herbs that break down stones like the Gold Coin Grass etc ? Obviously your have cleared the 2 organs of gunk as seen by your results which is terrific. It seems there are those who find the flushes are the main thing to restore health. But others may have to do more of the other cleanses. If one has been constipated most of their life, then colon cleanses seem essential. And the theory goes that a ...
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Invini, My last several flushes have all been double doses. I never want to do the 4th E.S. but I do. I am pretty sure it helps clear more stuff out. When you do the 2nd GF/OO are you doing just 1/2 the amount of the first one? That is how I understand the directions and it works fine. What I like about doing the DDose is I get old dead things out towards the end of the flush or the next day or two....ya know the harder and darker pod looking stones that can have mucus around them. I love it when weird things come out. A thought on tiredness. When I do my 2nd OO/GF I then lay back ...
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Thanks for serving dinner, just reading your menu has filled me up yum yum!!!! My default fav Indian dish is sag (spinach) paneer (fermented cheese squares). I miss understood your timing...you are on the first day with ES 1 and 2 I take it. You know what I do between 1 and 2 is do an enema...I know just the opposite of what we are taking about with the hunger pains hah hah. If I don’t do one then I can’t get to sleep and have to visit the throne room through out the night. Also the enema makes the morning easier and I seem to get right to the stones and then the beatles. A ...
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yeah so many things factor in... funny it is similiar to what can happen when you have had really hot/spicey Indian food :o)....I am getting hungry!   [End]
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Invini...not to add to your frustration, but Indian food is by far my favorite! If it is done right it is very satisfing. One explanation I read is that it can satisfy all 6 tastes...salty sweet etc. I had posted in another thread that I sip some warm water in between ES 3 and 4 after #4 also while waiting the 2 hours to eat fruit. This gives me stomach a more full sensation and also helps move things along down to the exit. Might help.   [End]
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I enjoyed reading the previous thread, what demons we all fight eh! The only way I can do a colon cleanse is to not have anyone else in the house or I start caving and start eating. Eating is such an emotional thing. Ayurveda says that your digestion is strongest when the sun is the highest which is around noon time. The advise is to eat your largest meal for lunch. When the sun goes down your digestive fire (digestive enzymes and acid) called Agni gets low and hence the advise is to eat light at night and the earlier the better. If one eats late at night or heavy food, then it d ...
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the burn is probably caused by a few factors all previously mentioned... and all cause iritation of delicate tissue and nerves. It may not be preventable, except to apply a soothing ointment right away.   [End]
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Hi don’t be concerned. Each flush is different and the idea is not to put too much attention on how many or much comes out...though we all do that. The proof is in how well you feel in the days to come. That being said, my advise is to stay on schedule and do your 4th ESalt today ( assuming I am reading the times right). I take some warm water after my 3rd and 4th ES drink that gets the movements and quanity going. The ES if a cold drink with Apple juice or cold water like suggested slows things down. Also after eating the fruit salad (2 hours after last ES) will helps keeping thing ...
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Good advise I am sure...I will try next time thanks. Though it has been my experience that most of my flushes have had very litte burn and all done the exact same way (with 4 E.Salt drinks), so that makes me think it is either the type of rough stones or acidic toxins coming out that cause the burn. Also next time I will probably do preperation with GCG and talk to Mrs Chang...maybe some insight there too. I would like to speed this process up...get all the stones out.   [End]
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We always want toxins to go so that would be nice. I wonder if GCG and the Bitters help with this? I have been out of the loop on reading here and did not about those 2 Chinese herbs until today. It sounds like they allow for a more powerful flush and I wonder if they make burn less? thanks.   [End]
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I just finished another flush, maybe #12 as I lost count. Anyway in the past I have had some anal/anus burning with elimination during the flush. I have read that it could be citrus juice from the grapefruit juice, but I have had many flushes with no burn so I figure it is not the juice. This last flush I had a lot of burn, almost like there was sand paper coming out. I have read about gravel coming out and have had some before. But this flush I had lots (many hundreds to a few thousand) very little hard, tan stones come out. I figure that was the cause of the burn as there was ...
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I have had several flushes with seed looking items coming out also. They appear mostly at the last eliminations of the flush or the next morning. Also I got a lot more of them after adding the 2nd GF/OO drink in the morning proceedure. The ones I get are hard, often dark and usually hollow. I just figured they were somewhat calcified older stones. But they look like could have been a pod as well. Strange stuff inside us eh.   [End]
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Congrats on a terrific flush! You do eat well and that all helps. I got some ugly black ones out last night 2 days after.... such a joy! Better out then in...good motto!   [End]
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Doesn’t stone free really have it’s importance in symptom free? It seems to me that you listen to your body and your symptoms. If it feels comfortable doing LF every 2 to 3 weeks and there are still uncomfortable symptoms or conditions in your life or body then you keep doing the flushes. At least that is what I gather from this forum and what my experience is so far. We are all not built the same. Some folks can do 1 to 3 flushes and their allergies stop or their skin clears or their pain goes away. But I would guess most of us have to do many flushes to have symptoms disappea ...
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I chuckled at your name Boldyloxx. What country are you in or from? Congrats on your first flush, welcome aboard! To advoid toilet ”runs” I do a warm water enema in-between my first and second Epsom Salt drinks. So around 7pm I do the enema. This clears the bowels, so that the E.S. drink doesn’t force me to visit the toilet several times during the night. Some of us when we drink the E.S. drink plus the OO and GF drink before bed have to get up several times a night to visit the toilet, but doing that first enema before the olive oil drink stops that from happening. It also ...
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I am doing LF 10 today and getting lots of brown husks or shells that are very thin and maybe 1/4 inch in size. I have gotten these many times before, but this time they are lots with every visit to the throne room. I am wondering if there has been a diagnosis of these reddish brown to dark brown husks by Dr. Clark or whomever knows this stuff? They look like skins of something that was inside like a seed or pod or little creature....maybe mini aliens lol. I also discovered that as soon as I ate fruit my running to the throne stopped. Next time I will continue on liquid all day to se ...
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Order Difficulties? If you experience any trouble with your order, do not hesitate to email us at orders@oxypowder.com. Or simply call us at (713) 476-0016. I copied this from their web site order page....I called them after my internet order to be sure it was processed. They are very helpful.   [End]
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Angie, I just looked at your web site. Thanks there is some valuable information there. I understood you to be using OP daily for maintenance instead of every other day. Can you tell me based on your oxy powder experince, do you feel there is any negative effect from taking OP everyday for a maintaince program? I know everyone is different. After doing the week cleanse program with OP I found that only by using it every night could I acquire the desire regularity that I was comfortable with. I am chronically constipated and have done a some cleasning to correct it....but my body see ...
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I learn so much from other folk’s experiences with all this. I am not big on discomfort and the LF is not easy for me, but you have inspired me to move on. I have done 7 LFs on pretty much the every 2 week program, but have now not done one for over 5 weeks. I will have to wait untill after I pig out on Thanksgiving so it will be 7 weeks by then and the body is really telling me I need to do one now. My allergies have returned in force and that is a sure sign. I had not eliminated them, but they had lessened. So I am excited about doing a double dip next time around. Thanks. ...
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I can understand why you will be doing it this way from now on due to the results. Did you find that the oil was coming out of you for ever after that? I seem to be running to throne throughout the 2nd day with oil speeage. And I am wondering with that 2nd OO-GF if I will not have a lot of toilet time. No need to answer, but I would expect that is what will happen, no leaving the house that day that is all. Thanks for sharing. Jim   [End]
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Thanks yes I remember that now, as I it printed for a guideline, but have always ignored that part thinking it was too heavy duty. But I would like to amp up the results. The idea of 35 flushes like some of these folks have done is major heavy duty, I would like to get cleaner quicker and maybe that 2nd does will help. Jim   [End]
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christi or anyone who knows, can you tell me when you and did the second dose of oil/grapefruit the next day? do you do it after the 2 E.S drinks in the a.m. or before or? thanks. Jim   [End]
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such dedication!!! you have a lot of alkalin/water inside you each day....constantly alkaline I guess is the goal. I have been using/adding Hydrogen Peroxide 3% human grade with the salt and baking soda and squirting it up my siunuses as another poster suggested and like I you I do it backwards, very carefully to help release the blockage. This has helped somewhat, but I don’t do it often enough. I know to a great degree (in my case)it is sourced in poor digestion, assimliation and elimination of food over most of my life time. So I suspect the channels are backed up all the wa ...
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thanks once again for the added detail. I will give it a try!   [End]
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I have read that some people are using it in enemas because it is cleansing. The only I know about it is that it is alkaline,not acidic. Do you know why ACV worked so quickly and so well? and are your sinuses still clear several days later? thanks for sharing your success.   [End]
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Very inspiring message. I am doing # 7 today and only about 70 stones and maybe 1/2 around 1/4” over several trips to the throne room. I had several hundred stones each of the other flushes. So either I have less stones inside which kind of suprises me as my symptoms are not less...assuming there is a correlation, Or this flushing takes some tinkering or changing like you did to get more out. Your colon therapist was also very important for all those ”nuts” to come out. Do you do a colonic after each flush? We have to drive 2 hours to find a c-therapist in Iowa. You have found so ...
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thanks for posting this message!!! I awoke this morning and wrote myself a note that I needed to find the arise and shine web site as I need more information about cleansing...I knew about this from the past. So I read your post and there it was. Chommper is what I needed!!!! Jim   [End]
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Johanna, Thanks for the input. There are so many guidelines on Curezone one can lost in the details and different versions of the cleanses. I have been using so much OxyPowder because that is what it takes to give me more than 1 or 2 BM’s per day. I eat a fairly good diet with lots of liquid, though not always just water, some herbal tea and juice. But about 50% raw and lots of fruit and veggies (Behler’s broth). But really good regularity is not an easy thing for this body and never has been all the way back to childhood. That condition of course is a big reason why I have all the ...
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Johanna, I was curious if you felt the OxyPowder cleanse was really doing what it says, namely oxidizing the intestinal walls? I did one week, but was still eating though mostly raw and had no idea if really did much cleansing. I am use it daily 2 to 4 cpasules to for maintainance and it is helpful for good bowel movements. I know one has to also clean the colon and not just the liver to create good health. So I have used psyllium for about 2 months each morining, but feel I am not progressing fast enough. So I am thinking I should add Bentonite, but maybe not if I am using the Ox ...
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I have used magnesium citrate on and off with good success... in helping sleep and consitpation and muscle cramping. Jarrow makes a Magnesium Optimizer for just over $7 from liverfriend.com Also I like Natural Calm which is a magnesium powder that really hits the system fast and is very effective for sleep and constipation. You have to search for that, but it is around $18. I am glad I read this post from the Newsletter as this reminds me to take magnesium and electrolytes after flushes and enemas or colonics.   [End]
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Wow that is so great that you are unloading this past stuff. So many people are so buried underneath all that stuff. We don’t bury it, the stuff buries us. You are really breaking through and when that happens to me, after the shock of it, I get quietly high that some deep layer is being released or removed. Suggestion, it is good to get grounded some how. Go for a walk, put your bare feet on the ground, breath deep and hug, love and accept yourself as deeply as you can.   [End]
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thanks for sharing such a clear experience of yourself interacting with your frustration of ongoing personal pain and in your insight into the food or sense of taste craving to pacify the pain. Believe me we all can relate to this. I once heard a spiritual teacher say that the sense of taste and I guess food addiction is the last big stress in the way of Self enlightenment. And wouldn’t that be because it really is just the behavioral expression to the deep emotional impressions associated with the taste-food. We have learned over and over again to pacify or soothe our out of balance em ...
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So I just read all these posts and I am a little confused. I am on 3rd day of Oxy Powder and did not start constipated. Though I have the tendency, but have been using a psyllium powder cleanser for 7 weeks with good results. After larger BM this morning, have had 3 liquid BM’s since...this is getting old already. I am not looking forward to a week or more of liquid several times a day. Is it the case that OP is just liquefying what I have eaten in the intestinal track only, as opposed to actually oxidizing plaque on the walls? If that is the case I would want to move on to co ...
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sb/paulette, nice to know someone is observing and following what we are doing. I started one yesterday. Did warm water enema before 1st E.S. That takes the pressure of my colon and keeps me from visiting the throne all night. I mixed the ES with organic bottled apple juice. (also made some a.j with the juice and drank some bottled a.j. 4 days ahead. ES still tasted yuky! But I have the thought this is going to make me super healthy and that helps change the reaction to the taste. Slept pretty good, got up at 6am did the 2 ES as scheduled and finally after about and hour afte ...
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pepe, I am doing a LF today can you tell if in your 16 flushes if it matters if you drink some water after 2pm? I am feeling thirsty thanks. jiowa   [End]
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Giz, I have done 2 flushes (and one 7 years ago) and the reason I started doing them again was a chiropractor in Texas who I was about to buy some adrenal support products from, told me that the real source of my adrenal fatigue was an over worked liver. He suggested to solve the problem to do gallbladder-liver flushes and colon cleanses. His comments made sense to me as I had heard from several chinese medicince docs that my liver was stagnet or blocked or toxic. Also I had all the symptoms like allergies etc. Also we know that the liver directly influences all the major function ...
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Ghee is available at most large health food stores. If you live in the US you can get it at WholeFoods. Also you can order it online at: http://www.mapi.com/en/1-800-255-8332/mindbodygourmet.html or at a Indian Food Store. In my opinion you want to make sure the ghee is made from milk that is either from organically feed cows or from ”rbst” free milk. That is milk that does not have the rbst hormone added to fatten the cows. rbst is a genetically engineered version of natural cows hormones that is very controversial as far as it’s effects on the human body. But ghee is one of ...
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I think they would have different reactions in the body. The olive oil has effects on the GB and liver and maybe not so much on the digestive track. There is the daily liver cleanse that is uses only 1 Tbls of olive oil with the juice on one lemon and 1/2 it’s rind and a fresh piece of ginger that you blend, strain and drink on an empty stomach. I don’t think I would try any more then that per day.   [End]
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ghee is clearified butter esentially. But done in a very exact way so that the heating does not destroy the good stuff. It stays fresh like coconut oil does without refrigeration. It is a divine food that is wholesome to cook with.   [End]
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Have not tried it with ghee....but in Ayurved ghee is used as part of the preperation for a castro oil flush. One takes ghee each morning for about a week in progressively larger amounts to soften the intestinal walls so that the oil flush cleans better. The Indians love to use ghee for everything.   [End]
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Andreas, Are there any body types that tend to need or crave more protein or is it all just a fad brought on by the idea of avoiding simple carbs and high blood sugar by eating protein instead? My wife is a kapha pitta type and really likes to have protein several times a day. I on the other hand am vata pitta and feel more bogged down by it, though I do ocassionaly crave some fish or a little chicken and act on that craving with positive results when small amounts are eaten. I am hoping that the liver flush routine will clear out some the congestion and make my own energy not swi ...
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Well since all I did was have the 9 amalgams replaced, it was a quick 2 day and basically painless process. though the rubber dam thingie reminds me of when I was a kid and the dam is one of trauma sources ... also when I started getting all my early doses of mercury. Dr. Margolis is enough cheaper then the other wholistic dentist that I found in Phoenix, that I decided to drive farther to see him. How much I would have to find that stuff, but he is more expensive then Mexico....duha! But his whole office is geared around being thourough and emlinating problems. He apperantly often ...
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I had 9 amalgams removed in Phoenix in February of 2004. The wholistic Dentist that I used was Dr. Michael Margolis. He is in Mesa and his phone number is 480-833-2232. He does all the protocols and he is a warm and caring doctor. He can correct your problem, he appearantly corrects other dentist’s errors on a regular basis. Jim in Iowa.   [End]
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thanks CanDo!!! I will take your feedback, input and words of caution seriously. Hope to report good things later. Jiowa   [End]
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I did a flush 5 years ago, had about 50 to 75 stones. Finally did a 2nd one last night and today. I don’t think there were any stones. I did notice some floating brown mini pieces, but not what I remembered from last time with actual green mini stones. Also I had 3 BM’s after 2nd Epson water last night. Then when I had the olive/juice drink I had another, then went to lay down and had another urge and back to the bathroon...so it may have 15 minutes before I laid down still. Then I had to get up 3o 4 more time before I fell asleep, which took 2 hours due to bathroom trips. Slep ...
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