It is always a challenge to balance magnesium-calcium-sodium. When you take a lot of magnesium (especially in magnesium oil) it has a big impact on your adrenals. Magnesium is decreasing sodium and that's why always when magnesium is taken, some adrenal support should be taken as well. The magnesium chloride is not very good.      There are some really good supplements like this one:    [End]
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Hi, it looks like very bad insuline resistance. Try to include a lot of B1 vitamin to your diet and let your thyroid gland check. Are you using Niacin or Niacinamide?   [End]
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A lot of practitioner changed the TSH reference range to 0.4-3.0. It is so called functional range. Ray Peat says that he’s never seen a healthy person with TSH higher than 2.0.   [End]
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 Hi petluvr10,   I started with CDH about 1 month ago. I started pretty slowly. 5 days 8ml of CDH in 800 ml water (drinking 100ml every hour) - during this period I was feeling realy well. I had a lot of energy. Next 10 days 16ml of CDH in 800 ml water - at the beginning still ok, but at the end it started to be challenging little bit.I started to have stomach pain and started to be tired. According my practitioner the tiredness is caused by toxins which has to be processed by liver. I started to wakeup during night. I think my liver was overloaded with toxins. N ...
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Hi, regarding the NB and MMS. When you use MMS it is recommended to avoid all antioxidants, vitamins, minerals during a day. It depends on your MMS protocol, but you could be able to take your minerals in the evening when you stop with MMS. It’s actually 2 hours before the initial or 2 hours after the final dose. I am starting with MMS in 2 weeks. But not exactly with MMS. The old version of MMS is very acidic and can badly influece your mineral level in body. New versions of MMS like CDS or CDH have no problem with acidity. Acidity is the biggest problem of MMS and a root cause wh ...
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Hi INTi, yes you are right, we have the same practitioner. Regarding the potassium, I have only information which was mentioned in the TEI report. This time I ordered full report. ”Your tissue potassium level is elevated above normal. Increased potassium retention will result in sodium retention and visa-versa. The glandular relationship of these electrolytes and their metabolic retention are influenced by the adrenal and thyroid glands, as well as dietary habits. High thyroid activity is associated with elevated tissue potassium retention, which secondarily increases sodium ret ...
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Hi Phoenixceliac, you are right that my sodium level went up very fast. I was also surpriced with it. I think it was mainly caused by copper detox and andrenal cortex in the parapack and also by the AdrenaStim. I was using the AdrenaStim only little bit for more energy. In last 3 months I was using like 30% of recommended dosage. My practitioner was fine with it, because my NA/K level after my 1st analyze was 0.54. Although I have so high sodium, I was not facing any overstimulating feeling like anxiety or insomnia/sleep disturbance (I am sleeping like a child 8 hours:-) ). So I ha ...
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Hi INTi, after my 1st HTMA I received same explanation like you mentioned. The high potassium is a potassium loss because of copper dump. That’s why I was recommended to take some potassium and I was not allowed to visit sauna. What is very interesting is your sentence: " ARL’s advise was to add copper into new regime to combat the potassium issue, whereas TEIs advise was to not add any copper as it would further increase potassium loss. " Because the new plan I received from TEI lab contained much copper in supplements as well. The original recommendation was: Thymu ...
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  Hi all, I’d like to share with you my 1st retest which was done by TEI lab. My HTMA result shows a significat changes, increase in the sodium level, drop in the copper level and shift from a slow metabolic type to fast metabolic type. As it was mentioned many times, at the beginning I was feeling much worse, probably because of the copper release and I was not able to take the supplements every day. My energy level is very good now and I can excercise much more. I put some weight(muscles) on. I still have some brain fog and headache, maybe stil some detox. ... [Image Embedded Here]
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http://www.sensiblehealth.com/ Gold Coin Grass and Chinese Bitters Both products are recommended by Andreas Moritz in his book.   [End]
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Hi Feo, How are you feeling when you release more and more metals? Are you still facing copper detox symptoms? Can you see some progress during the 2 years? One thing I really don’t understand. You mentioned that you have done 10 liver flushes. You probably use epsom salt, am I right? What I remember from your last hair result, your sodium and potassium are low. Many people are very sensitive to high dosage of magnesium. I would expect that person with very low sodium and potassium has big trouble with epsom salt. How can you survive it:-) ? Thanks.   [End]
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Hi Sherpa, maybe you could try Adrenastim from Apex company. I’ve had very good success with it. I was recommended to use this product by my practitioner and it is really very good product.   [End]
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Hi INTi, I started with NB about 1.5 month ago and before I started with it I was feeling well. Because my hair analysis showed a very high copper I started with TEI supplements. 3 weeks a was feeling very well but then I started to have terrible headache, nausea and I was dizzy with blurry vision. My temperature dropped and generally metabolism slowed down, I had cold feets, cold hands and fatigue. I also had heart palpitation in the night and metalic taste in mouth. I was shocked. I called Rick and he told me to stop supplements for couple days because it is a massive copper deto ...
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Hi, there is a difference in units between these 2 laboratory. ZRT uses ng/ml for cortisol and also for DHEA. Biohealth uses nm/l for cortisol and ng/ml for DHEA. What I understood it is not so easy to convert ng/ml to nm/l. You need to know a molar mass value. Therefore it is better to use reference range of laboratory.   [End]
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Hi Faith110, Some people here in Adrenal forum report a small crash after any meal. I understood it whole time like a metabolic problem or problem with sugar reaction. These people include protein/meat to every meal and avoid high carb food to stabilize blood sugar . I am not sure how to differentiate between blood sugar issue and food sensitivity issue. What were your symptoms for food sensitivity? Do you think that food sensitivity and histamin go hand in hand? I am trying to make a summary what could be a reason for food sensitivity: 1. Liver - I’ve read many times here in c ...
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Hi DBLC, I am facing similar symptoms like you have now. I started with full dose of Biocidin liquid(also very good for Lyme) and GI mikrob-x and after 5 days I am facing hypoglycemia symptoms as well. But when I take Bentonite clay in the evening/morning I have nearly no symptoms. Bentonite is a big help for me.   [End]
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Hi Marie, thanks a lot for your reply. It seems like cooked vegetable, little bit rice and meat is suitable for both types - slow and fast. I’ve had a chat with Rick but we haven’t discussed diet properly. Maybe I will give him another call and ask him again. Last time I was mainly interested in the proposed supplements and detox. My main concern was copper and therefore I wanted to know how to get rid of it. BTW I know your healing journey. I’ve been reading this forum and adrenal fatigue forum for a long time, nearly every day and based on your and Maria41 recommendation I decided ...
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Thanks for answer. How detailed report about diet did you receive from TEI? I’ve received only basic recommendation from Rick (lets’ say 3 sentences). It was not exactly specified which food or combination of food should be eaten. Is the food recommendation report provided directly by TEI or is it produces by the practitioner? Thanks a lot.   [End]
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Good points, sorry for not-complete information from my side. I am 36/male. I used to be 5 years vegetarian. Diet recommendation is no sugar, no soya, no refined carbohydrates, low copper diet. I am nearly on Paleo diet, but I am using some rice and potatoes. I don’t eat grains, dairy, sugars... I am trying to eat a lot of bone broths and cooked vegetables and I stopped with vegetarian food, I eat meat regularly. I can’t be on very low carb, I am feeling worse with it and loosing weight. For digestion I am taking Super Enzymes form Now foods and I am tolerating it very well. I am not ...
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 I’ve finally received my HMA result and I’d like to discuss it with you. I am cooperating with Rick and TEI. Lab has determined my result as slow metabolic type 4, but Rick according Ca/P ratio said I have characteristics of a Fast Metabolic Type as well as a Slow Metabolic Type (when the Ca/P ratio is so close to the cutoff ratio of 2.6/1) The biggest problem seems to be high copper and related patassium loss. Because of potassium loss I was not recommended to use any detox like CE or Sauna. I should concentrate only on low copper diet and supplements. The most w ...
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I’ve found quite interesting thing for sleep. When I do accupressure massage on my foot for liver before bed I sleep much much better. I was also facing troubles with sleeping, shaking during night, racing heart... . I really see some connection to my liver.   [End]
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Hello, About 1 year ago I did a liver flush. After the liver flush I was facing couple of weeks a huge pain in the middle part and on the right side of my stomach. I tried to calm down my irritated stomach with slippery elm, potatoe juice and I was quite sucessfull but I stil had small pain and nausea after meal. I’ve done a stool analysis test where H. Pylori(I used Matula tea), Blastocystis hominis and Candida were found. 2 weeks ago I was recommended to take HCL 648mg tablet with pepsin. I take 2 before each meal. When I take this HCL I don’t feel immediatelly any pain or burn in ...
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Magnesium oil helps me very much with muscle weakness. Give it a try and you will see whether it helps.   [End]
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Hi, I have a book which is called ”DIAGNOSING AND TREATING CHRONIC FATIGUE SYNDROME” by dr Sarah Myhill. If you are interested in this book, please send me PM with your email and I will send it to you.   [End]
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Hi, I had also an endoscopy and test for H-Pylori came back negative. After that I did a Gastrointestinal Function Profile in Genova labs and H.Pylori came positive with very high elevated values... . But H.Pylori infection has about 75% of population and the reinfection is very high as well. If you want to treat H.Pylori, you should treat your family members as well. For the H.Pylori treatment can be used mainly Matula Tea, GastroMend HP, Pyloricil.   [End]
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I am using this one: http://www.health-energy-fitness.co.uk/The-Shop/Support-Liver?man=0&type=0&search=   [End]
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Hi Dave505, I’ve confused you little bit with the name ”David”. Mikey mentioned this name at the beginning of this message. David is a health practitioner in UK. I was answering you but also little bit reacted to Mikey message and I mentioned David’s name. Sorry for confusion. I like the book from dr. Lam, it helped me understand a lot of problems. I’ve not read the web pages so I can’t compare. Fortunatelly I have no problem with NAC, gluthatione.   [End]
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Hi Mikey, I paid for the tests about 700USD + express delivery from Europe to US. I’ve been studying Ray Peat work which was mentioned by Klauss here in curezone and also by David. Couple weeks ago I was facing mild reactive hypo. I started to sip during whole day diluted orage juice with salt and collagen 1/3. I think I feel better. I have constant energy/sugar level during day. I was afraid of potassium and sugar in orage juice but as I am only sipping diluted juice with salt and collagen, it is ok. In last 2 weeks I don’t have reactive hypo. I find it interesting. I am not sure w ...
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I have to say I am really impressed by David’s knowledge. I think my biggest problem is digestion and infection which was also confirmed by tests and also poor mental stress handling. For example I tried to take HCL and digestive enzymes (NOW brand) but after couple days I was always feeling much worse. I had stomach pain and generally I felt worse. I thought when someone has infection in stomach, HCL/enzymes can cause no harm. But it is not true. Actually it can make things worse and now I am not allowed to take it. I obtained very detailed 4 pages long protocol for mucosal barr ...
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Hi Mikey, I’ve done couple of tests with the guy you recommend me in UK and the conclusion is that my AF is caused for sure by underlying problem + my mental stress in the past. These tests discovered: - heave bacterial infection in gastrointestinal system (although I am not facing any bloating, cramp. I would never say I have this problem...) - parasites - dental infection in root canal - wrong liver detoxification - weak pancreas function - very low HCL in stomach - protein digestion trouble And the final result is AF confirmed by saliva tests and all my symptomps. I wa ...
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Hi, how can NB address candida, SIBO or other pathogens in gastrointestinal system? Thank you.   [End]
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Hi, please excuse my English. I have some personal experience which I’d like to share with you. 1. Liver Flush is very very hard for adrenals. I tried 2 liver flushes about 6 months ago. Although I didn’t use Epsom salt at all my AF went down rapidly. I released about 60 and 50 stones but my liver was very sensitive without ES. Also I had feeling that my GB and liver was more congested than before LF. I did one week preparation with apple juice and ACV but evidently it was not enough. I generaly think it is not good idea to avoid ES in LF. Next time I will test my body reaction. Da ...
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Hi, I am always little bit surprised how can someone with AF do a strong parasite clearance. I find it terribly taxing for my body and last time I did it (Hulda Clark one), it brought me to crash border nearly. You have to be really very strong now when you can survive it so easily.   [End]
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Hi, I’ve done about 10 Egg yolk LF and I find them very helpful. I had better energy and felt much better. I never released any stone but I really think it helps. On the other hand I did Clark/Moritz LF couple of months ago and it was really hard on my body. At the time when I did this LF I was strong. But after the flush plenty of symptoms returned. It took me a lot of weeks to recover. I wouldn’t recommend it in case you are still fighting with AF.   [End]
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Genadij Malachov recommends: Take 10 organic eggs and wash them well in warm water. You will also need 1 kilogram of quality butter, 1/2 kilo of very quality honey, and two hundred and fifty milliliters of fermented milk/buttermilk. Mix everything with whole eggs (do not break eggshell) and place in a warm place until eggshell is dissolved. Then stir thoroughly and take three times a day 1 tablespoon.   [End]
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Does anyone tried buttermilk & honey as it is recommended in this link? http://curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=1049116 It sounds strange but similar recipe is recommended by famous Russian natural healer Genadij Malachov for adrenal fatigue. What do you think about it? Thank you.   [End]
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That makes perfect sense to me. I have both symptoms, pain under right lower rib cage, discomfort in my right shoulder. But I also have low back pain, dizziness standing up... . After my last liver flush(nearly 3 months ago) I am also facing fibro problem. How do you detox your liver when you have adrenal problems? Liver flush Herbs Infrasauna Castor oil Any other method suitable for adrenal fatigue? Thank you.   [End]
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Hello all, how can be one sure that the main problem is liver congestion or adrenal fatigue when the symptoms are so similar? For example liver congestion and Adrenal fatigue share these symptoms together: Fatigue Dizziness Insomnia Visual problems Low back pain Muscle weakness Ear problems Nausea Emotional/mental problems Mineral imbalance Obesity/Underweight Heart Palpilations Bad blood circulation Is there any key indicator which would determine liver congestion or adrenal fatigue? I know saliva test could be used for adrenals, but it is also not 100% valid. Bl ...
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Thelaughingdogs, thanks a lot for your support. I hope I will recover soon and will feel better than before liver flush. Could I ask you which supplements do you take to recover from the crash and what dosage? Thanks a lot.   [End]
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Thanks for reply. I read many times that Epsom salt is very harsh to kidney and adrenals. That’s why I didn’t use Epsom salt to make this flush easier for my adrenals. It is interesting that you recommend ES. Have you been suffering with adrenal fatigue? Did the liver flush helped you? Thanks a lot.   [End]
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Thanks for answer. I was little bit hypothyroid last year so bigger dosage of kelp should not cause any trouble. I will have to anyway make my body stronger before I start with liver detox. But probably not LF. I am not cooperating with anyone. I will have to find some natural healing doctor. So far I have been studying all possible approaches by myself. I know dr. Wilson, but I really hate enemas, therefore I’ve preffered LF. But my body was not strong enough. Thanks for your messages, I will update you with my progress.   [End]
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Hi, I have Nature’s Way kelp (capsules) as well. But I take only 1 capsule per day. Maybe I could increase dosage. How much Kelp do you take? I have weakness in my legs and in my hands as well. I have strange reactions during night. Somehow blood circulation is bad and also I have heart palpilation during night. It really scares me to death. The open question for future is whether to continue with liver flushes or not. I have enlarged liver and therefore I should detoxify my liver. But I don’t want to experience this reaction again. Thanks a lot.   [End]
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Hello all, 3 weeks ago I did liver flush. Now It seems it was a big mistake. Before the flush I felt really good. 2 months I was strong without any anxiety, insomnia… . I wanted to help my body more and therefore I flushed. I haven’t used epsom salt. It had to be a gentle flush. 2 days after LF I got anxiety and terrible weakness and nausean after meal. 2 weeks after LF I thought I will manage it as I mentioned here: http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1955193#i But last 2 days I am terribly dizzy,anxiety is back again and I have terrible insomnia as well. I am really afr ...
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Thanks for answer. When I think about my symptoms more and more I came to conclusion that root cause could be: - With LF I make my body weaker mainly adrenals or thyroid and therefore my body has this reaction or - I tend to react with panic when st happens in my body. Maybe the LF is so huge change in my body that I react with panic. In this case problem could be purly emotional. or - Somewhere I read that liver holds old emotions. Maybe when I release bile and stones, some of these emotions come to surface. What do you think? Thank you.   [End]
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Thanks for reply. After nearly 2 weeks since my last LF I don’t have anxiety any more, but still have little bit heart palpilation when I eat meal. I am not so weak as I was. So far I haven’t found what I had done wrong. I will have to check my thyroid and adrenals again. Do you think that thyroid or adrenals malfunctioning can cause these troubles? One thing surpises me anyway. Before big LF, I did about 8 Yolk liver flushes. I really believe that it helped me. But always I was facing little bit heart palpilation after this LF. That’s realy strange. 2 years ago when I did 2 big LF ...
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Hello, last week on Sunday I did my 2nd LF. Whole week before LF I was drinkig ACV and apple juice + plenty of garlic. I did the LF without Epsom salt, I used salt watter flush after LF to clean my colon. I drunk nearly 3 liters of salt watter and in the evening I took 3 enemas. I thought that my colon is cleaned perfectly. I felt very good and released about 50 stones. 4 days later I started to have anxiety and I am very weak. When I stand up quickly I feel dizi and I feel nausea after meal. I feel little bit pain on my right side. Anxiety I had nearly whole last year. But wh ...
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Thanks for answer. I will start with the book and let’s see the result. You mentioned that this breath technique took away your anxiety. How fast was this technique for your anxiety? Are we talking about weeks/months? Thanks.   [End]
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”My Buteyko coach said it is common when your cells first start getting more oxygen since there we starved for oxygen for so long.” Hi Feo66, how difficult is to learn Buteyko breath? You mentioned that you had a ”Buteyko coach”. Is it possible to learn this technique just from book. I’d like to order the book from Amazon and hopefully I will be able to learn this technique. Thanks.   [End]
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Thanks for answer. My biggest concern was the delay between parasites killing and liver flush. I will try the liver flush and will see the results. Thank you.   [End]
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Hello, I need a help regarding liver flush. Please excuse my english I am not native speaker. In January 2012 I did parasite cleanse. I was facing terrible die off and my body was completely exhausted. My neck/back was blocked, I had terrible dizziness, anxiety... I was very confused with this result and different ideas came to my mind like adrenal exhaustion, thyroid problem… . I was so scared that I haven’t done liver flush so far. Problem is that since this parasite cleanse I am very anxious and feel pain in my liver area and also I can’t sleep during night. I was not able to ...
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Hello, I would like to do liver flush without Epsom salt. In my country I am not able to find Magnesium citrate, but only Magnesium chloride hexahydrate (MgCl2 6H2O). Could I use the magnesium chloride instead of magnesium citrate? If yes, should I use it only as a laxative next morning after liver flush? Or shall I drink it also before the liver flush? What would you recommend? Thank you very much a please excuse my English.   [End]
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Hello, some time ago I bought frequency generator and I used it for concrete virus with a good result. But now after some research I’d like to use this FG as a zapper (I don’t know which bugs are present in my body and I want to kill them all). My idea was to use 2500 and 30000 frequencies and use standard Dr.Clark approach 7+20+7+20+7 minutes. Shall I use both frequencies or would you recommend only 2500? Would you recommend any other frequencies? Is it always better to know exactly which bug I have in my body and use FG with concreate frequency? But I think I could get good ...
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Thank you very much for your answer. I did the same mistake in the past with liver flush without previous parasite cleanse. Since that time I’ve never repeated liver flush:-). Maybe it was the Epsom salt which I was not able to handle. My body was completely stressed. I have blood tests for thyroid and andrenals. Andrenals results are little bit higher. Thyroid test is ok now (I was little bit hypothyroid in the past). In last months I have feeling that everything what my liver is not able to process, is stored in my back muscles. This feeling I had mainly during parasite cleanse ...
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Hello all, 2 months ago I did my 1st parasite cleanse following Hulda Clark protocol. During this cleanse my neck and complete back was blocked, I had heart burning during night and I was not able to sleep during night. I had a feeling that my adrenalin is pumped to my body. When I finished this protocol I felt really badly mainly because of my back/neck pain which was completely blocked. I wanted to continue with weekly protocol but I was not able. I started to have anxiety in night and I was very weak mainly after a meal. Also today after 2 months I am facing little bit dizziness dur ...
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Thanks a lot Klauss for you answer. I visited TCM doctor yesterday and he told me that from TCM point of view adrenals do not exist. Everything is included in kidney area. At first he wants to fill my liver with cchi energy and after that ”blood energy” in my kidney. I received plenty of herbs but I am not sure whether I am going the right way. He does not agree to start with acupunture now because of missing energy in kidney. I’ll try it couple of weeks and hopefully it will help little bit. I’ll let you know.   [End]
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Thanks so much for this information. I was really impressed by page http://www.drlwilson.com/ There is so much helpful info on 1 place I am going to follow some of his recommendations anyway.   [End]
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Thanks for answer. Problem which I have with TCM is that I don’t know whether I can combine my prefered herbs like licorice, shizandra, jiaogulan, ashwagandha with the herbs I would receive from TCM. Somewhere here on CZ I saw a message that adaptogens will not solve the AF in case kidney is jing or jang deficient. This infomatin was the cause why I started to consider TCM and this information is still confusing me. Is it true with the kidney deficiency and AF? You mentioned: TCM uses mostly herbs and I haven’t seen anyone here heal with herbs alone. My idea was to rely on TCM to f ...
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Hello all, i’d like to ask you what is your opinion about TCM and acupuncturist help. I read a lot of documents about adrenal fatigue and I came to conclusion that it is not so easy to cure it by myself. Would you rely on TCM and acupuncturist or would you try to learn as much as possible about AF and heal by yourself? Thanks for reply.   [End]
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I’d like to ask you for help. After my 2nd liver flush I experienced terrible adrenalin attacks in my body. Suddenly many times during day my heart started to palpilate and I was short of breath. It was like a small panic attack. It took about 1 week until this symptom disappeared. Now I am little bit worried of doing my 3rd liver flush. I haven’t done parasite cleanse so far. What do you think about it? What could be the root cause? Thank you for any idea.   [End]
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Thanks a lot for you answer. I am going to check this product.   [End]
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HI all, I am little bit confused with my split and blood test results. When I use split test I have long trails and a lot of junk go down to the bottom of the glass. But recently I ordered blood test as well and from the allowed interval 0.00 - 0.35 I was only on value 0.1. So I was told I have no problem with candida by my doctor. In last months I am facing a huge fatigue/mild anxiety and therefore I am trying to find a root cause. I don’t have any other symptoms. What do you think about the test results? Which test I should believe? Split or blood? Thanks a lot.   [End]
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Hi all, I’d like to buy some amino acid supplement but I don’t know which one I should buy. I read many times about so called free form amino acid. Would you recommend it? Do you have any concrete brand which you like? Thanks a lot.   [End]
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Hello, do you have any experience with immune modulators suitable for person with adrenal fatigue? I want to buy Cat’s claw (Una de gato) but I am not sure whether it will not worse my adrenal fatigue and hypothyroid symptoms. Weak immune system can also have relationship with ph balance. I believe that acid environment is very suitable for all kind of viruses and bacteria. In last days I read interesting book from Kurt Tepperwein where following steps are mentioned: 1. Stress, anxiety, no exercise, wrong breath... causes acid environment in body 2. To make ph balanced in our ...
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Thanks for answer. I realized I have to order saliva test via internet to be really sure about test results. Regarding thyroid antibodies, FT3 and FT4 are in allowed range. I think my main problem is stress which is causing my all issues. Because of this reason I want to start with Ashwagandha. Hopefully it will help little bit.   [End]
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Hi all, I am new in this forum and I’d like to ask you whether you could help me understand my labs results. I was tested in Czech Republic with following serum results: Cortisol: 660nmol/l Allowed interval is: 171 - 536nmol/l Does it mean that I have high cortisol level? It is little bit stupid question because I am confused with my thyroid results. My thyroid TSH result is: 4.64mlU/l Allowed interval is: 0.27 – 4.20mlU/l The thyroid result is higher than allowed interval but I was told that I am hypothyroid. What about the cortisol? Cortisol result 660nmol/l is ...
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Hi, I was facing this illness some time ago. I discovered a way how to get rid of this illness very quickly. Just press 30 times /5 times a day (the more the better) bellow mentioned point on your body (it is not in english language, but click on the picture): http://www.patakyovi.cz/clanky.php?idc=4 When the Bell’s Palsy is on left side, you have to press on left leg. In case it is on right side, press it on right leg. I really experienced great result with this technique and got rid ot this illness during 1-2 weeks completly.   [End]
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