Sorry to hear your mind is closed by such an unusual interpretation of John 19:30. Most say Jesus said that because he had completed everything that was prophesied for his life. His job was complete, nothing was left undone. Which is what happened. If he said it for the reason you say, it would make him a lier. ”that there will be no future revelations of the truth of God” Apparently you don’t realize the only thing that could be called a Bible back then, was the Old Testament. So what do you say about the New Testament that was written AT LEAST 30 years after Jesus died? ”It is finishe ...
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Yes I took my cat to the vet because she was bleeding rectally. They said she had some kind of bacterial infection, and gave her some antibiotic. It didn’t work so I gave her Colloidal silver which I make. It cured her. We put about 10 drops in her water. A friend of mine had MRSA, the antibiotic resistant stain. Colloidal silver also cured that. I would think putting about 20 drops of H2O2 into your cats water should work too, but I know the silver would. Hope that helps. Take Care, Gaylen   [End]
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Ok let me put it in these terms. Where did God come from? Weather you believe in God or a subatomic particle that created the universe. There has to be a uncaused cause that started everything. I say it’s God. You say it’s a subatomic particle. So God didn’t come from any where. God always has been. God is beyond time and space. This means God created time and space. So God didn’t come from any where, at any time. God created those things, so they don’t exist for God. Only we use time and space, and are created. Did he create himself out of ”nothingness”? No, God wasn’t created. God ...
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I’m just stating what I’d like to see. None of it is going to happen anyway. But I still think the same way. I do agree a teenage conventional doctor might be scary, but probably no worse than what we have now. I think quit a few people in here would probably know more than conventional doctors. I would want alternative treatments taught, and it doesn’t take too much to do them. What I described before wasn’t MY ideal school. It was a compromise I think more people might agree to. Take Care Atalanta, Gaylen   [End]
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Ok, all I can say is you got the wrong message from the church, and I don’t blame you for that. The church is pretty screwed up, especially Catholics among a few others. I respect your views though! Take Care Atalanta, Gaylen   [End]
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You’re right it doesn’t prove creation. But it is part of the book of creation. If the only goal in here is to prove or disprove, then I’m sorry for being off subject. Take Care, Gaylen   [End]
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I’m against the state and church uniting as one entity, yes. But just because the state provides money to schools doesn’t mean they control it, or are not seperate. The schools should still be able to teach what they want, without it meaning the state and church aren’t seperate. The court has it wrong there I think. What I meant by a trade, was everyone should come out of highschool being a carpenter, nurse, doctor, evolutionist, priest, teacher, or electrician for instance. They should be able to walk out of there with a trade and get a job. The junk they teach is too general, nonspecifi ...
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Hi Been There, I don’t think I have ”a self-fulfilling philosophy.” I may have a pride problem sometimes, but if you knew me you’d know it’s not a big problem, or dominates me. ”THERE IS NO MORE ”REVEALING” (holy writing/scripture) after Jesus’s death on the cross.” This isn’t true. The New Testament was written AFTER Jesus’ death. There were also may other writtings around before Jesus, while he was walking the Earth, and after he raised himself, that people liked and followed. It was the church that decided they weren’t to be included in the Bible, and then banned, and labeled. The ...
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Well thanks for the other possible reason for the silence. But trapper also wrote something like ”look who did it below.” It was my post that was below. It’s not that I care what people think about me. I proved my point, the Bible isn’t the only place for truth, and Christianity isn’t the only religion with truth either. Take Care Sans Sucre, Gaylen   [End]
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I’ve said all along no one killed Jesus. Jesus gave up his life freely like he said. He also said he could take it back, which he did. Jesus said something like a plant has to die before it can multiply. If Judas didn’t do what he did, Jesus would have died anyway. It was just the misunderstood teachings of Jesus by the desciples and church that have portrayed Judas this way for 2,000 years. It’s not the first time they misunderstood Jesus’ teachings. Nothing new here. It’s just like they did with Mary Magdalene. She wasn’t a prostitute like she is portrayed. Her and Jesus’ mother, anoth ...
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Ok think about this. No matter what you believe there has to be something that was uncreated to start everything. The only question is was it a sub-atomic particle that made everything in the universe or God. Now can a sub-atomice particle create itself? Can anything physical create itself? Science says nothing physical can create itself. I agree. Man has never created anything new. Man has always taken what was there already here and changed it some how. No energy can create itself either, or we’d have free energy. Your pocket book will tell you that is true. The whole universe is an eff ...
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Personally I think both should be taught. But it shouldn’t be the convention message from either side. Also I think a person should have a trade by the time they get out of high school. Take Care, Gaylen   [End]
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I don’t know if you disagree with the leap in science that’s going to happen, or that science is silliness relitively to God. All I can say is the first is happening right before your eyes with the science you praise. Look into it. The second can be proven by the same method, but it’s in your heart. Not in a microscope, scale, or camera. Take Care Atalanta, Gaylen   [End]
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Yes I believe life could evolve over time. Anything is possible. It doesn’t effect my relation with God, so I’m totally fine with it. It’s just that evolution can’t be proven and I’m just debating. I didn’t say the grand canyon wasn’t created by God. Erosion is one of God’s processes. Yes what you said makes sense, and could be a possibility I think. No I can’t show you proof of God, but you can if you try. Science can show you there is something more than the physical universe that we think though. Ok, if you aren’t totally sold on evolution why don’t you investigate God? F ...
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Yes that link I gave you says the fetus goes through every stage of evolution that has happened on Earth. You can’t tell the difference between human fetus’s and some animals in the first few weeks. The fluid inside us is about the same as sea water. So I agree with that second paragraph pretty much, but it really doesn’t prove evolution is true. I know what you’re saying though! You were saying you can’t believe God saying poof and it happened. What about protits ”blinking” in and out of existance. This is already proven but conventional science ignores it just like conventional medicine ...
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Judy, I don’t buy the Bible version totally. There are ”missing links” in there too. I have never promoted the 6,000 year Earth, or the 7 day creation, or that Adam and Eve were the first people. One thing for sure is God is behind it all. I find it funny how Cain was sent out into Nod alone, and was marked to warn others, and found a wife, and built a city, when there was only him. Am I missing something? I think if he was marked to warn others, there were others. And if he found a wife and built a city, there were others. See Christians say I’m not Christian, and evolutionists say I’m ...
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Ok, I don’t know if I wrote it to you or someone else, but for evolution to be as evolution claims, the world would have to be a lot older. I lean towards evolution anyway, but I still require undeniable proof unlike you. I have MY undeniable proof of God already. None of this evolution or creation time lines mean anything between God and I. Also it has been proven by science that canyons as big as the grand canyon can be made in a period of a few years, so that argument is useless. I’m not sure what you mean by your last statement. Could life have come from erosion? To tell you the trut ...
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Hey, just remember I’m debating. I have never told anyone what I believe here or in any other forum. I have already said I lean towards evolution, but require real proof, not unproven theories. I didn’t say all mutations are bad, I just gave you a list to explain using evolution.   [End]
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I think the different chemicals thing is the result of love, but not love. It’s like saying love is happiness, peacefulness, ecstasy and so on, but these are the results of love, not love. Notice no one has ever written what love is? They can only describe the feelings that come when someone is in love. Saying love is a chemical reaction is like the medical establishment saying depression is caused by a chemical imbalance. They do tests on depressed people and find there are chemical imbalances, but it’s the depression that causes the chemical imbalances, not the other way around. Also i ...
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Ok I will give you those arguments and stand corrected, even though genetic error or flukes are still mutations. You gave good answers though. I’m only debating in here, and actually lean towards the evolution side. If evolution is proven beyond a shadow of a doubt, I’ll be fine with that. God is still behind it all in the end. That is the fact science will eventually have to face. Anyway, #29what ever says no matter what evidence is presented in here, it won’t be believed. This isn’t true. Like I said I lean towards evolution anyway, but it can’t actually be proven. That is the great fa ...
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Oh you mean the ”Gospel of Judas?” You can find about 6 pages of it at the national geographic site. Naturally the less interesting stuff. The show is going to be on the national geographic channel either sunday or tuesday. Can’t remember for sure. I’m going to record it though. There is no web site that has it translated yet though, so the show is the best bet for now. Take Care Trapper, Gaylen   [End]
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I understand how bacteria evolving into resistant stains ties in. Look I’ve read quit a bit on evolution. Sorry my post wasn’t ”Much more entertaining,” but that wasn’t my point. I think you got your posts mixed up, I never said ”This bacteria obviously has some sort of immune system that has a built-in ability to dodge obstacles and a desire to survive...just like we humans do. Our bodies similarly adapt, change and overcome illnesses and diseases all the time.” No I didn’t read your links, and you didn’t answer any of my questions either. If you’ve read my posts earlier, I don’t say ev ...
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I don’t remeber #28913 asking that, but I don’t buy into the story about Cain’s wife. I don’t think Adam and Eve were the first people. I answered your question so what about my statements you were responding to here? The old series of mutations theory? The mutations aren’t complete yet, even though they would make them even weaker, which would go against ”the survival of the fittest” theory? Take Care Judy, Gaylen   [End]
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Ok, so what series of mutations resulted in the next higher form of life from bacteria, and what was it? Also how much time did this take? Also I forgot to mention before, white skin reflects light, dark skin absorbs it. So there wouldn’t have been ”a survival value for the lighter hair and skin in the new environments.” He He, them darn old Norsemen marauded over here too. ;-) Take Care Judy, Gaylen   [End]
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By ”the topic at hand” I assume you mean creationism. Judas betrayed the Son of God resulting in him being crucified, thereby being part of the history of creationism. Really anything can be associated to creationism. The computers we use to communicate with in here were made by ingredents created by God, which man used to create something different. Creation is everywhere and in everything. This can’t be said for evolution. Take Care, Gaylen   [End]
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Also evidence of mutations like albino’s, two headed snakes, Siamese twins, giant people, and migets live shorter lives. Darwin also proved marrying cousins like he did and having children also produce kids that live short lives too. People who are born with mutated body parts like arm’s and legs unually don’t pass on this trait. Evidence shows there is no advantage to any of these mutations. Also. if bacteria, or plants mutate they don’t wipe out the other varities like evolution says they just have more varities. So where is the scientific evindence backing up this theory?   [End]
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Yeah, evolutionists always use that argument. So what mutation evolved into the next higher life form? And what was this life form? (link please) ”Just one example of how a random mutation gives benifit to a species.” Yes but according to evolution we evolved from Africa, so your example wouldn’t work. Maybe your example needs to evolve? Your alternative wouldn’t work either. Oh well time for bed too. Take Care, Gaylen   [End]
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Ah yes. I’m supposed to ignore where it says ”Creationism” at the top of the page and not mention anything from the book that explains creation, so this forum can evolve. Thanks, Gaylen   [End]
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Have you ever thought that IF everyone who says they ”use the Bible” to gain their “wisdom” actually did, they would all be the same. There would be no differences. Yet I see people who claim to be guided by the Bible arguing all the time. How could this be if they’re guided by the same book? They’re reading the same words. Truth is, out of the 1 billion Christians that are guided by the book, there isn’t two of them who totally believe the same thing. Why is that? There are many reasons. The reason isn’t because of what’s written in the Bible though. That doesn’t change. It’s the same wi ...
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With the ”Gospel Of Judas” being released today and the show coming up, I thought maybe people would like reading this version first. Here is some of the story of Judas, and what made him betray Jesus, and what happened to him afterwards. (BEFORE THE BETRAYAL) Judas had enlisted with Jesus hoping some day to become a great man in the new kingdom. He at last realized that there was to be no new kingdom such as he had anticipated. But he rejoiced in being so sagacious as to trade off his disappointment in failing to achieve glory in an anticipated new kingdom for the immediate realizatio ...
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Yes I see the same type of people every where too. Putting their faith in conventional medicine, and when it doesn’t work complains about that too. I never see you in the spiritual forums. ? This is where the biggest debates are going on now. http://curezone.com/forums/f.asp?f=543 ;-) Take Care, Gaylen   [End]
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I don’t think boiling water can ionize it, but I could be wrong. If you drink the boiled water for at least a couple of weeks you should feel noticably better. That would be the test. Yes the ozonated water does make you feel better. They both do. It’s just that I’ve been doing both so long that I can’t remember the difference. Take Care, Gaylen   [End]
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Yeah I felt the same way back when I was asking you what you’ve read before. I like how you think it’s what I call the principles and you call the essence behind what is written that matters. I’m the same way. There are a lot of things written I could care less about, and couldn’t answer, like who begat who, or where they live. By the way I’d be mumbling 60’s cartoons. I sense I’m older than you are. So you carry the torch further down the road for me. Take Care Bro, Gaylen   [End]
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Yes, abd nice talking with you again too trapper!   [End]
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I’m not sure which one I like better. They are both great in my book. I think the difference I see is ozone kills the bad things, and ionized makes you feel healthier, or better. I’ve been ozonating the ionized water for a couple of years now so it’s hard to seperate the two. I think the ionized water definately raises the ph though. I have mine set on 10 or 11. You can really feel the difference at that setting. The one I have is the Regency II. http://www.biogro.us/regency.html They’re $650 now. I had to pay $750 when they first came out. The filter lasts about a year. I think they’re w ...
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I’d just like to say, I think the best way to take supplements is a wide range type. If you take any higher amount of supplement you need a higher amount of another one right? Like you said you need magnesium to absorb calcium. So what do you take to absorb a higher amount of magnesium? I think it’s best to take high amounts of everything. That’s all. Take Care Rog, Gaylen   [End]
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trapper, Yes the sheep of Jesus do hear his voice.   [End]
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Supersport I’m not saying all the theories about evolution are true. Personally I think some of it might be true. But the point I was trying to make was it could be true. Anything is possible. Also there is a way for evolution, and Adam and Eve to be true, and there are at least a few other reasons why Jesus came here. I don’t think anybody wants to hear any of it, so I was trying to show the fact that anything is possible. Most Christians don’t think about all the possibilities. I’m fine with you believing all that’s in the Bible. What got me going was that person basically saying you’r ...
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There can be a middle ground, and I believe there is. How do you know you aren’t ”believing the deceivers?” Remember what Jesus said, a house divided cannot stand. This person is a believer. Don’t condemn a person’s soul, or your soul risks such a fate. That stuff you just said is what turns a lot of people away from God. It isn’t from God. God created a universe where anything is possible didn’t he? (hint: yes) Did Jesus say anything is possible except evolution? (hint: no) He took the thief next to him into Heaven THAT DAY because the thief believed Jesus was going to Heaven and wanted ...
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Yeah I’ve read the garbage he’s been putting out, and the other top three health news letters on line, and they all say the same thing. I’ve written them all a couple of times. I’ve written all the major newspapers, and TV stations, and all my local stations, and papers, and the only one who responded was Ralph Moss’s 2nd in command. She said we had really been on a roller coaster ride with ozone, and the reason Moss doesn’t promote ozone is because of lack of research. I don’t think this is true though, because he talks about other products that have less research than ozone does. Truth ...
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I just had this article sent to me about ionized water. Thought it might be pf intrest. Ionized Water: Weight Loss & Osteoporosis Date: 3/31/06 Author: Stanley Arcieri Source: Crusador Ionized Water: Weight Loss & Osteoporosis By Stanley Arcieri Dietary calcium has recently been associated with weight loss. More specifically, it may facilitate fat loss, excretion of dietary fat, the reversal of gradual weight gain, the prevention of fat storage, raising metabolism, increasing high density lipoproteins, and the reduction of both kidney stones and symptoms of PMS. Plus it just m ...
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My wife had breast, kidney, LIVER, and intestinal cancer. 18 tumors total. Ozone cured it all. You can read the story at http://curezone.com/forums/m.asp?f=254&i=1529 Take Care, Gaylen   [End]
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I didn’t say the Bible was a lie. The Bible isn’t an all inclusive history of everything that happened on Earth either is it? It leaves out a lot of things the author, (man, and in the case of Genesis maybe two men) thought didn’t need to be included. (Human judgement) You asked if one part of the Bible is a lie, which I don’t believe, why should the rest be believed. First, anyone who has done the will of God, knows God is in their life. They see God acting in their life. Second, I don’t believe the authors lied in the Bible. There are various reasons for the contradictions, or conflic ...
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Yes this is what always happens when science tries to control and study prayer, or anything to do with religion under their conditions, instead of letting it happen naturally, and watching and observing like they should do. They screw it up and claim it is fact. They make it into something it’s not, and then say it’s ”scientific evidence”, which is another word for screwed up bias information most of the time. Especially when it comes to health information. This includes the news media’s involvement, who are drug company puppets. I listened to one of the doctors that conducted the study b ...
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Lol! Oh my. You sit there and accuse Christians of doing nothing but attacking, belittling, and being so stupid for it, and then you turn around and do the same thing. Science doesn’t make up stories? I always find that funny coming from someone here in curezone. If you follow scientific methods on health why are you here? Why aren’t you using their cures? It’s based on fact, not stories, & ”save lives” as you say. (pukes after saying that) Religion pumps up the ego and makes people think they are better than others? Have you been to a doctors office before? Ok, I guess you want t ...
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Look I wasn’t attacking the messenger, or trying to confront you. I did go through the post and state what I agreed and disagreed with. That’s all. I wasn’t accusing you of anything. I guess I won’t disagree with you, because you seem to think I’m attacking you when I do. I guess I won’t show you where you did say God is love. No you didn’t say any one should agree with that. I’ve only read revelation once. It just sounds like a bad dream to me. I don’t give it much credit. It might have had truth for people back when it was written, but I don’t believe what most Christians do about the ...
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If you really look, both science and religion prove each other. Neither side is totally right. They both require faith in something that can’t be proven physically or scientifically. You are right, they offered nothing proving their arguement, but what you said was false too. So you’re no better. The big bang is a ”big lie” according to the laws of science too. No subatomic non-physical thing could grow into a physical universe so vast in the blink of an eye, like they say it did. Proving this will require all the laws of physics to be thrown out the window and starting over again. (which ...
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The ”humor” wasn’t even that great, and was mindless. But creationistdude made a good point. Something as simple as the computer takes a creator. What about us? Also the Bible doesn’t claim the Earth is 6,000 years old, but most Christians seem to think so.   [End]
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Hey I’m Christain too, but if Christianity is real, couldn’t you all make these things happen by faith, if we can throw a mountain into the sea according to the Bible?   [End]
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I’m just wondering why this would be so important to you. It won’t prove either side is right or wrong. It won’t prove evolution defined by science is correct, or that the Bible is wrong either. God created a universe where anything is possible. So in my opinion the average debate on evolution from either side of the wall is flawed. The truth is either inbetween or far beyond science or religion.   [End]
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What is conventionally called ”love” is an ego strategy to avoid surrender. You are looking to someone to give you that which can only come to you in the state of surrender. The ego uses that person as a substitute to avoid having to surrender. The Spanish language is the most honest in this respect. It uses the same verb, te quiero, for ”I love you” and ”I want you.” To the ego, loving and wanting are the same, where true love has no wanting in it, no desire to possess or for your partner to change. The ego singles someone out and makes them special. It uses that person to cover up the co ...
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What is conventionally called ”love” is an ego strategy to avoid surrender. You are looking to someone to give you that which can only come to you in the state of surrender. The ego uses that person as a substitute to avoid having to surrender. The Spanish language is the most honest in this respect. It uses the same verb, te quiero, for ”I love you” and ”I want you.” To the ego, loving and wanting are the same, where true love has no wanting in it, no desire to possess or for your partner to change. The ego singles someone out and makes them special. It uses that person to cover up the co ...
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I think I would have to agree with the books. For you to see something in someone, you have to know what it is, and understand what it is inside you. If it’s inside you, it’s part of you. Not saying you will ever react that way. Not saying you would ever approve of that type of action. You know what rape is, and I bet at some point in your life you thought about how sick it would be to do it, when you heard it in the news for instance. Not saying you would ever do it. But you went through the act in your mind. You’ve manifested the thoughts, and feelings. Thoughts and feelings are somethi ...
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Thanks for the compliment Been There. The Bible is not a book on how to love like you said. It only point you in the right direction, and tells you to go and find it for yourself. I know you’ve learned from the spirit too. I saw it in a post you did before. You are right about love not being an obligation. I’m glad to see! I’m not sure about your statement that love comes before faith. For me I had to have faith there was a God, then when I seen God acting in my life the love grew. Maybe it’s either way depenting on how the person operates? Who knows. True, God made us creatures of love ...
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Yes science some science is definately ”false logic” I would say. You can’t deny all science though. This is like saying all Christains are like the queer bishops. How can you call people who don’t love God ”never to be repentant ingrates”? Aren’t they our brothers ans sisters who are no better than us? That either raises them up to you, or lowers you down to them. When really there is no you or them. I wouldn’t say science is made by satan. Science is only another way of veiwing our world and reailty. Religion views it more from the inside out, and science views it from the outside in. ...
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Is ionized water the same? Just about all I drink is ionized water. I’ve been drinking it for just about two years now. I love it & fell a lot better from it. I set it to 10.5 on the ph scale. I’m pretty sure it makes the water neutral? It says, ”during electrolysis attracts positive & negitive ions.” You are supposed to keep it in a glass container as a result. All I know is it does a great job at making you feel healthier. Take Care, Gaylen   [End]
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Wow. I’ve never read the forward before. It is helpful in defining the words they use in the book. It would have saved me some time if I had read it before. Good luck with the book though Quinthius! Take Care, Gaylen   [End]
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Ok I C L, From my understanding, the one day is a thousand years, and a thousand years is one day means is, to God, time has no meaning. They’re all the same to God. The past present, and future are all the same to God, because they don’t exist with God. It’s the same with space with God. No such thing with God. Humans are the ones that live in time and space. To your question, I would believe God over man any day. God has never talked to me though. God only lets me know God is in my life. Now my questions to you. Who wrote the Bible, (God or man) and were the men who wrote the Bible co ...
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You wound up in the right place to respond to my post. I understand what you’re saying though, and you sound intelligent to me. Personally I think Quinthius is right though. Science and religion are closer than most think. They both seek the answers of how we got here, and what reality is. They just use different ways to prove it. Like astronomy seeks intelligent life and people who believe in ufo’s do too. They just search for proof in different ways. People who believe in a God can experience God in a personal way science can’t prove. Does that mean there is no God? Science can’t pr ...
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Light, I wasn’t trying to say I have all the answers either. I was just saying what I’ve heard from science mostly. Most of my statements had question marks after them meaning I didn’t know for sure. I was just throwing more wood on the fire of thought, I thought anyway. I thought they were great questions that will make me search more. So thanks, and I’m sorry if I bummed you out. I didn’t mean to. I would like to say I don’t think the Bible has all the answers though, like the answers to your questions. So maybe don’t limit your belief to just the Bible? Some things in science can’t be ...
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Yeah I haven’t bought into the marcoevolution part either. I do believe the universe was set up so anything is possible though. So who knows. Take Care, Gaylen   [End]
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Yes you can get to everything from there. Here is the list of all the papers. http://www.urantia.org/papers/toc.html#PARTI You might want to start here with Jesus’ birth? http://www.urantia.org/papers/paper122.html Hope you like it! Take Care, Gaylen   [End]
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If you want to see all that stuff thrown into one book, try http://www.urantia.org/ I know you’re Christian like me, so start with the teachings of Jesus. If you don’t like it, leave it. That’s what I do when reading any book. If you like it, take what you can use and leave the rest. There are a lot of terms used in the book that you won’t know what they mean, like ”Thought Adjuster”. This is their word for the Holy Spirit. ”Morontia” is the word they use for the state Jesus was in, which is half spirit, and half physical when he first rose from the grave when he told Mary not to touch h ...
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Lol! Illusive indeed. I believe the evidence definately points toward creation, but... :-) the Earth is still older than what most Christians think. Remember a million years is like a second to God. Actually the past, present, and future are always present now to the spiritual. Time or space doesn’t exist to the spirit. Take Care, Gaylen   [End]
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Very interesting points! Some I think might be flawed, but some require further exploration. Good Post! 1. The shrinking sun (which is using its fuel at the rate of millions of tons each second)limits the earth-sun relationship to less than ”millions of years”. Is this considering that the sun was a lot bigger when it was created? Also that there could be other yet unknown forces involved? 2. The small layer of cosmic dust on the moon indicates less than 10,000 years of accumulation. Could this be a result of a lot less cosmic activity in recent years? Everything was a lot closer a ...
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Right on James. Truth is another static, along with the church you talk about, and the change you talk about in the world which is happening all through the universe. True, no matter what religion you read the spark of truth has to come from inside. No one religion or book contains all truth, in my book. Each religion specilizes on on different ways to find the partial truth, and different parts of the truth. I’ve read about those different eastern religions except for Vedanta. I like the Tao. I totally agree with the church being everywhere we go. There is no church for the beliefs ...
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Super, No that site didn’t show how evolution is true. To prove evolution, all you have to do is listen to the news about the bird flu. Virus can evolve right? I don’t believe bacteria or virus can evolve into a bird or something else eventually like evolution says. That’s why I said to a certain degree. Things do evolve though right? You can see this type of evolution everywhere in animals, plants, and the universe. What that article was showing, proven through experiments done with quantum physics, is that the physical or material existance, comes from the spiritual, or from another re ...
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Evolution depends on changes here and there, by chance, that result in a creature becoming better from it in the end. Also, that creature eventually evloves into a higher life form, like a reptile into a bird. Yet through one of the laws of evolution, the survival of the fittest, the lower life form is still allowed to exist even though it isn’t as fit as the higher life form. We still have both reptiles and birds in the world today. Wait though, evolution says the less fit or less superior form will be eliminated by the fittest. Now I’m all mixed up. Which is it? Maybe some theories in ev ...
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What you said could just as easily be said the opposite way: God is evolution! God is the only proof of its existence! Without the God of evolution man would only have unreliable and biased metaphores to explain the origins of life! And these metaphores would be dogmatic and bigoted like the Big bang! A fitting thoery to quote from science, a theory created by man! You need to read what Quinthius said. Science can be proven wrong daily, and you want to follow that over a book that’s basic concepts can’t prove wrong by science? A book that had many truths right about 2,000 years before ...
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Stands up and Applauds!!!!!!!!!!!! VERY, VERY well said James! You are the first I’ve seen anywhere who has a grip on the truth! Go James Go! ;-) So you’re not Christian, believe in God, (not that Jesus is God) and don’t go to church, right? What type of things do you read? Take Care, Gaylen   [End]
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So what do you think was meant by God not being a respecter of men? I think it meant God values everyone the same, and no one is superior to anyone else. God could care less what your place is in this world. You really think it’s an obligation to love, rather than a desire, pleasure, or something at our core? Yes Tesla had a great mind. He also invented the type of ozone generator I use too. They are still the best made. I don’t know if you know what I think about science. In general I don’t think it’s good for much. Some can’t be denied, but a lot of it can. I follow it to see if ...
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Trust me Super, evolution is fact to a certain degree. It’s the creating force behind it all they can’t see, or understand because you can’t prove the spiritual with the physical. Read the link in my other post if you want a mind bending experience on reality. Take Care, Gaylen   [End]
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I just saw this on the science channel today! (Science keeps inching foward, but eventually be turned upside down, and blown away like dust on a counter top, and find religion was right all along.) ”A NASA probe has allowed scientists to peer back at the earliest moments when the universe was created, less than a trillionth of a trillionth of a second after the “Big Bang.” And what it’s telling them is that the universe suddenly grew from sub-microscopic, to astronomical size in less than a blink of an eye.” ”Astronomers have determined this by looking at the oldest light in the univ ...
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I just saw this on the science channel today! (Science keeps inching foward, but eventually be turned upside down, and blown away like dust on a counter top, and find religion was right all along.) ”A NASA probe has allowed scientists to peer back at the earliest moments when the universe was created, less than a trillionth of a trillionth of a second after the “Big Bang.” And what it’s telling them is that the universe suddenly grew from sub-microscopic, to astronomical size in less than a blink of an eye.” ”Astronomers have determined this by looking at the oldest light in the univ ...
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I just saw this on the science channel today! (Science keeps inching foward, but eventually be turned upside down, and blown away like dust on a counter top, and find religion was right all along.) ”A NASA probe has allowed scientists to peer back at the earliest moments when the universe was created, less than a trillionth of a trillionth of a second after the “Big Bang.” And what it’s telling them is that the universe suddenly grew from sub-microscopic, to astronomical size in less than a blink of an eye.” ”Astronomers have determined this by looking at the oldest light in the univ ...
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I guess fortunatly for me, opinions are still legal. (By the way it’s ok to make any health claim as long as you don’t claim to be a dcotor, or are selling anything you promote to make people healthy.) It’s actions that get you in trouble. I’ve written Bush and told him his war on terror was stupid and like kicking an ant hill, and that he’d only get more terrorists. That was right after 9/11. Before he got re-elected again, I told him he should at least do one thing right before he got voted out of office. I really wish that statement would have come true. :-( I basically told Bush he’s ...
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Hi Firework, I don’t believe diet is the only cause for cancer. My wife got cancer the second time even though we were on a good diet. There are other sources of toxins like environment in the house and outside the house. I’m not sure of the cause for fatty liver, but I think parasites and eating fatty things might be the cause for that. I don’t think DNA causes disease. DNA is like a blue print I think. A blue print for a huse will not build a house, it takes action of some kind to get the result. I’m sorry to hear about your cancer & doing chemo. I think the best thing to do with che ...
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Ear insufflation with ozone kills brain cancer. Ozone passes through the ear drum, into the sinuses, through the thin membrain behind the nose, and into the brain. All you have to do is try it for a little while to see brain fog gone, and then you’ll agree. It really works. The rash can be really annoying, but what’s the other option? If you find it hard to believe ozone can go through all that, consider ozone killed the mold on the outside of my house, from using it inside the house while curing my wifes cancer. It will go through paint, sheetrock, fiberglass, and wood. Skin is easy to g ...
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I read about what’s called ”Ozol” from this site and tried the Eucalyptus oil. http://healingtools.tripod.com/oxidblood.html You can read more about Eucalyptus oil from the same site, and it says old Eucalyptus oil produces ozone too, so I thought it would be the perfect combination. http://healingtools.tripod.com/eucaloil.html Take Care, Gaylen   [End]
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I just got this email. We may not agree totally with it, but I would think the point hits home with most in here. In the beginning, God created the Heavens and the Earth and populated the Earth with broccoli, cauliflower and spinach, green and yellow and red vegetables of all kinds, so Man and Woman would live long and healthy lives. Then using God’s great gifts, Satan created Ben and Jerry’s Ice Cream and Krispy Creme Donuts. And Satan said, ”You want chocolate with that?” And Man said, ”Yes!” and Woman said, ”and as long as you’re at it, add some sprinkles.” And they gained 10 poun ...
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I just got this email. We may not agree totally with it, but I’m sure the point hits home with most in here, I would think. In the beginning, God created the Heavens and the Earth and populated the Earth with broccoli, cauliflower and spinach, green and yellow and red vegetables of all kinds, so Man and Woman would live long and healthy lives. Then using God’s great gifts, Satan created Ben and Jerry’s Ice Cream and Krispy Creme Donuts. And Satan said, ”You want chocolate with that?” And Man said, ”Yes!” and Woman said, ”and as long as you’re at it, add some sprinkles.” And they gain ...
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This alone should make a huge difference in the health of our kids who don’t have cavities yet.   [End]
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Once you don’t need the lessons that unpleasent events teach you, they will disappear from your life. Everything that is happening is supposed to happen, learn acceptance. The only difference between ALONE & ALL ONE is one L. The L is for love & can make the second happen. You will not be punished for your anger; you will be punished by your anger. If someone knows you are intimidated by their anger, they will use it against you. Loving people live in a loving world. Hostile people live in a hostile world. It’s the same world. It’s a choice! When you wake up each day, you ...
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hehe I was hoping people weren’t taking that post too seriously.   [End]
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Dr. Pressman reminded me of a story that was in the news a few years ago. I don’t know if you remember a lady that came into an emergency room in Calf. a few years ago, and had intestinal problems. When they cut her open the odor that came out of her made several people in the emergency room sick. I’m not sure, but maybe one or two died just from the smell. It was a rotten egg smell. The lady that came into the emergency room in the first place died for sure though. The police or cororner found out she was taking DMSO & H2O2. So Dr. Pressman says to wait at least 8 hours between taking th ...
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Yep it’s amazing how much attention & money one idiot can get. It’s also amazing how they can say that, when they know what the half life for ozone is, and they know ozone is created by the sun reacting with POLLUTION. Hmmm. Get rid of the pollution and their ”cause” for global warming would be gone then. Simple :-) They scare people with bird flu, or SARS to sell more vacinations. They scare people with terorism so they can take away our rights, and have more control over us. They scare people over ozone so they can declare people like us threats to nation security, and take away our gen ...
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We have the beta model at http://www.plasmafire.com $1,800 The first time she had cancer we had a non-medical grade one from http://www.appliedozone.com It’s about $550 now I think. I want to say don’t even spend the money unless she is willing to REALLY live, breath, & drink ozone. I don’t think people realize how much ozone we ingested when curing my wife. It’s not really something plesent smelling or tasting either. If the person is REALLY willing to do what ever it takes to wipe out the disease, they will conquer it I believe. I think if the person has that real determination, they ...
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I would say I mixed about 1 cup of water with 20 drops of eucalyptus oil? You know me, I just throw something together and try it. You may like more of both. It doesn’t smell real nice like you think it might, but it smells better than olive oil, that’s for sure, and works better too I think. You know how to make or where to buy the container to do this right? I think you can buy the container at http://www.plasmafire.com To make one, I would get a small glass jar with a lid. Poke two holes in the lid. One from the generator, and one to you. Put the tube from the generator to the bottom ...
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I wondered the same thing when I started this. Like I said I’m not an expert on this, so this is just my opinion & experience, which if you add $4 to, you might be able to buy some coffee at Star Bucks. What I read is 3% H2O2 contains 97% water. It could contain those other things as far as I know, but when you think about it, H2O2 is a cousin or brother of ozone. It oxidizes everything too. If you add toxins to it, it will oxidize them, I would think. So there is no need to add anything to it. No virus, bacteria etc. can survive in it, so adding anything to it would be a waste of money f ...
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Good point FF! I put 3% H2O2 into a spray bottle and spray it all over the body after a hot shower. I have really noticed a difference health wise, and have become a firm believer. Since doing this routine I have noticed my right ankle doesn’t really hurt any more. I got hit by a car there when I was a teenager, and in the last 2or3 years it has really started hurting A LOT. So I may have found the cure for bone problems I’ve been looking for. FF, you were saying you put it on your hair. I’ve been spraying it on my hair, and it seems to becoming lighter. (naturally black, now more of a b ...
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I’m not an expert on this. I’m the experimenting kind that just goes for it. I would just put 10 drops in a glass of water and drink it. Then gradually raise the number of drops until I reached the amount that seems to be too much, then back off on the number of drops. (like when doing apricot seeds) I don’t think it will hurt you. The water will taste bad and you won’t want to drink it is all. I drank a chug straight out of the bottle one time and didn’t suffer any ill effects, so you can see that amount won’t hurt you. It wasn’t a plesent experience, so don’t do that. Then I put an ounce ...
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It’s just an old protocol they used back in the early 1900’s to breath ozone. It is supposed to let you breath about 10 times more ozone than you can with olive oil. I tried it once and it seemed to allow me to breath more per sitting. I was just wondering if Rog had tried it, or anyone one else for the matter, and was wondering what their experience was. That’s all. Take Care, Gaylen   [End]
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Hey Rog, sounds like you may have breathed ozone through olive oil? Have you ever tried Eucalyptus & water? It seemed like I could breath more that way. Tree oils were claimed to be a better way to breath ozone back in the early 1900’s. Take Care, Gaylen p.s. you’ve been writting some good stuff lately!   [End]
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Yes her cure was that simple. Other applications of ozone aren’t. All she did was buy a ozone generator, turn it on, stick the tube into a glass of water for 20 minutes, and drink it. Some days she drank only 1 glass of water, some she drank up to almost a gallon. The machine was on a lot of the time in the same room we were in. The only other thing beside ozone she did was changing the diet to a more healthy one, and juicing every day. Both times she had cancer, it was gone in about 3 months. 18 tumors total. I just want to say people have tried ozone and either aren’t as dedicated, or f ...
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I have read ph is one thing cancer patients have in common, but ph won’t get rid of cancer. (According to tests, and is one reason why we used ozone instead.) About all I drink is water that has a ph level of 11 or so. It really helps keeping you healthy, but I’m not so sure it would cure cancer. Just my opinion from what I’ve read. Take Care, Gaylen   [End]
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My wife had bile duct cancer the second time she had cancer. I’ve heard it’s caused by parasites, which she had, so you might want to check that out and do some parasite cleanses. I think it’s better to attack the tumor first so it doesn’t spread and then get rid of the parasites. Here’s her story. http://curezone.com/forums/m.asp?f=254&i=1529 Hope it helps. Take Care, Gaylen   [End]
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Countdown to Telomerase Therapy: An Interview with Dr. Michael Fossel By David Jay Brown Michael Fossel, Ph.D., M.D., is a clinical physician and neurobiologist with a strong interest in the human aging process. He is currently the Clinical Professor of Medicine at Michigan State University, and Attending Physician at St. Mary’s Hospital Emergency Department in Grand Rapids, Michigan. Dr. Fossel is the author of Reversing Human Aging, and the recently published Cells Aging, and Human Disease. He believes that we are only about a decade away from a truly remarkable form of anti-aging t ...
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I think you know more than you let on Beej!   [End]
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After reading all your other posts it sounds like your body is toxic. That’s all it sounds like to me. You’ve had the cancer tests, and before you were wondering about yeast or bacterial problems. Like I told you when you were asking before, they aren’t cancer. The toxins given off by a good infestation can weaken the cells and immune system to where the cells can become cancerous though. I’ve been saying for a few years now how prostate cancer is probably started by these problems, and now they have come out and said the same thing on the news this last week. They say it’s viral. Just rem ...
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