My friend you are on the right path. I did the same as your for two years and it only improved each day. Now Im years beyond EC and am healed. Leaving them alone is the key. Trimming the edges is the key. Letting them peel by themselves is key. Do not use anything. You can beat this. Look at some of my old posts if you want. I always told people this is how to beat it but no one listened. Now there are two of us at least.   [End]
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keep it up no matter how hard it gets. it only gets better afterwards. dont worry what people think. i know its hard as I was obsessed with that but not caring about what others think is half the battle. just read my old posts and copy what I did. you will be on your way to recovery quicker than you can imagine. MAKE sure you never stop the exercise routine because thats part of what tricks your body into regulating the peeling process itself.   [End]
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havent put anything on them for many years and was able to regulate the peeling cycle at the gym thereby inducing fixed peeling each time the skin built up. this was eventually eliminated after two years of work out routines and the lips no longer peel. start a few years back and read my posts if interested.   [End]
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Check my older posts if your interested. http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1265712   [End]
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keep it up. im going 4 years now or so without anything on them. they are almost 100% normal. a small indent here or there but thats about it. i can say im cured. exercise is also key. now that your not using anything id sugegst going to the gym when the skin builds up and a workout using weights for an hour will get rid of it. it will peel naturally and yo may not even know it. thats all ive done to cure myself.   [End]
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im studying for the bar exam so dont have much time right now but go to my website http://www.exfoliativecheilitis.com/update those are from 6 months ago or more, i cant remember when i posted them but they are relatively similiar. if you check out the original pics who can see where the surgery was. i think i noted it too.   [End]
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i had surgery. i had cut out a huge portion of my left bottom lip to test it. it worked. but it took a year to settle and completely cured. it was worse for the initial few months after. my cautious. test it out first like me as everyone is different. note that i didnt do the same as the others who commented. i saw a plastic surgeon who offered that procedure but i refused. it was too risky. i went to an oral surgeon who performed a biopsy and at the same time she cut out a larger portion than necessary and cut deep down into the tissue because lips do not scare like other body tissue. ...
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you clearly havent read all of my posts. there are many aspects that helped and the workout was the culminating point.   [End]
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it aggravated mine at first. took a while to get used to it. then got much better. dont give up.   [End]
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same with me. my derm had no idea initially what my problem was. first he cauterized it with the liquid nitrogen and it didnt help. just scabbed and came back. he was perplexed. so he was like, ”lets try the laser.” i said sure. the first time it scabbed and came back. He said lets try it again but I watched him and he raised the temperature and that time only half came back after the scab. The final time he cranked it up and worked at it for a while (maybe 5 minuted which is long for a laser) and got right down into the lips in that area. it worked. but for about 6 months after it was bri ...
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i have. it got rid of them. they came back though slowly over time. it really made no difference. however, if you read past posts of mine it actually helps stop the peeling by burning the affected layers underneath the skin and thereby removing the issue that most probably causes our problem. i only did it on my top lip in the middle. it stopped the peeling there. i did it three times though. my derm had to do it at varying temps to get it right. the last time was the key, unfortunatley he retired.   [End]
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your post makes alot of sense, i dont have much time right now to reply but if u think about what i did, by using efudex to kill the faster growing cells, to use laser treatment to kill the cells living beneath the layers of skin, and to surgically remove a portion of my lip that was affected clearly demonstrates that there is something affecting the cellular mechanism and its reproduction. my biopsy showed fungus, but nothing that was out of the ordinary. thats why fungus creams for me stopped all peeling. but once i stopped meds it began again. it wasnt a clear resolution. ive personally ...
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ACTUALLY, when I left them alone, they went yellow, and looked rotten for a while. People, friends, family all stared. It was awful. That last for about two years. I used scissors to cut away the dead parts that lifted off. Maybe a couple times Id use natural beeswax balm to moisten it so it wouldnt look to bad if i were going to a social function. Remember, it did not happen over night. This was a yearly process. Then, at the same time I tried many procedures including bioposy, surgical removal, laser treatment, cancer cream, etc... This is all in my posts. I believe everything helped ...
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true. over the five years i made many posts after trying many therapies an procedures. all in hope of relieving my symptoms. i have have spoken to soon for some of them in desperation to find a cure. however, they have all contributed to where i am today. this time ive posted only a few times over a year and a half to be sure. i can quite honestly say my lips are finally normal. in fact, the last two girlfriends ive had have even commented on how smooth and nice my lips are and one even wished she had them and she told me that. personally, i laugh in my head and think if they only knew but ...
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look, i had ec, people can doubt all they want. i was diagnosed by the best doctors where i live as having it. all you have to do is try what i posted. its free, doesnt cost anything, and only requires your time and dedication. if you want to cure thats all you have to do. my pics of having it are on my website. they were taken halfway through my journey after many treatments so are better than when the condition began. if you want pictures i have no problem showing my lips now.   [End]
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For newbies to this forum, Ive been around for about 6 years or more. Ive gone through more treatments than you can imagine and for one and a half years now Ive been free of ex. cheilitis. Read my previous posts if interested in how i beat this condition.   [End]
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haha, that has been one of my points if you read my posts. yes humidity is a factor. for me i dont even have to work out when i go to a hot climate. every trip i have ever taken, whether for 1 week or 4 weeks, when hot and humid my problem goes away. in august i was in peru. in cuzco my lips were bad because of the altitude and cold weather. they werent peeling. and all the people i was with had the same problems. it wasnt just me. then we traveled to the amazon in the north and it was 45 everyday. my problem vanished. i live in one of the coldest places and have long dreadful winter ...
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If you know anything about exercise it is that you have to put the pressure from the weights somewhere. For example, when you are working your chest you want to focus on the different pec muscles and only lift up and down with those muscles. The reason people get injured is because the place the pressure on other areas of their body. For example, the may lift with the arms but put pressure on their back and therefore injure those areas of their body. It is common sense. That is why those people get injured and do not gain mass or muscle bc they do not lift solely with the muscle. However, ...
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by the way it sounds like you have the same EC as me   [End]
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Well, my lips looked like a disaster for years and everyone stared. I didnt care. I worked in a school too and the kids and parents always probably wondered what was happening. Funny thing is that the kids all had the same problems as us in the winter. It was as if they all had EC. So I wasnt bothered. Dont know what caused mine but Id guess over use of chapstick and stress, and picking at them. The breathing techniques I just push all the pressure through my lips when lifting the weights. I direct it all there rather then to the muscles while concentrating at the same time breathing he ...
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I am not sure why none of you have followed my advice. I have essentially been cured since late last year. I have had no significant problems. Each part that peeled has stopped peeling and only on occasion I get the hard buildup on the bottom right side of the lip but it doesnt peel. If anything it just flakes away. Since I learned that the working out techniques which include hard breathing through the mouth three times a week I have not only beat this condition by tricking my body to regulate and control the lips itself but I have also gained muscle, gotten into shape, relieved most o ...
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seriously do none of you get the point, i beat EC, because i played the cards right, thats the point... those are my lips after beating it... im done here, good luck to all, i was just posting to show you all it can be done, now you have proof, i wish you all the best   [End]
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If all of you tell me you want me to connect the other website blog just mentioned underneath to my webpage then let me know. If you all think its a good idea I will do it so we then have 2 pages to view rather than just curezone.   [End]
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www.exfoliativecheilitis.com/update3 you can see the indents in the same spots as the old pics but smaller and now they dont really peel, if anything will flake off and doesnt really bother me at all.   [End]
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My pictures are posted, Im still working on everything on the website, it will take a few weeks. For all you guys out there, I dont care to hear that my lips werent bad. You never saw them when this problem first started. They were so bad I couldnt even talk. The old pictures from the website are 2 years after extensive medical therapy. Thats why they dont look so bad. Dedication and hard work paid off. They were the same as the worse pictures on this website. I will post the testimonial exactly as to how I came to have my lips almost normal again. Stay tuned CHECK OUT THE PICS ...
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i used to get it every morning, i would wet my mouth and wipe it away, i havent gotten it for over a year now, only once, when pollen season was here a month ago, i got a heck of a lot, but only for about 5 days. about the other post, im not saying leaving them alone is the cure, when you read my testimonial you will see. AND truth is my lips were 100 times worse than those pics also at one point because I kept putting things on them. Those pics were after using efudex, getting lip shaves, etc... I went thorugh a year and a half of medicines to get them to that point.   [End]
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As I said, everyone is different, maybe you had the dead skin on but didnt have a way to control the buildup like I do through the stress relief that I am doing. In any case, I cant keep answering questions here, I will post the testimonial though about everything. For me the buildup began on the second day and peeled on the third day, so on the second day I would perform extremely stressful workout routines using weights that would focus on breathing heavily and alleviating the stress through the breathing, hence the lips were involved, for example, I would end up using a heavy weight ...
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I actually did that for about 2 years. Make sure your using a natural balm. THen get off it slowly, leave the dead skin on more often, and you will see the changes. Sounds like your already advanced enough to do that, others will have a hard time. Believe me, I dont get the build up anymore, it will go away, you will see. Keep notice for my update. I will try to do everything as precise as possible.   [End]
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Hey I wasnt saying it is caused by stress, mine was caused by an addiction to chapstick, which killed the outler layer of my protective skin on my lips, and it never grew back until i had many different procedures performed. after it grew back it still peeled. For me, what I am saying, is that stress relief stops whatever it is in Ex cheilitis that makes the lips the way they are. Foe me, it works. Like I said, everyone is different, some people have said similar things, that stress relief works, others kidney cleanses worked, other it just went away. No my lips didnt magically s ...
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there is no dead skin to remove. maybe once in a blue moon a small portion of one side may flake and if i rub it with my finger it comes off. nothing not normal, i think that happened occasionally before i ever had the problem. the only thing i noticed was that when the pollen was released about one month ago for one week they were really irritated and red and did peel once, so maybe it is also allergy related. anyways, if i dont manage it i actually think it would be fine. i cant say and wont try until about a year from now. all i know is that as far as im concerned, im over it, a ...
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I will post a testimonial on my website soon, www.exfoliativecheilitis.com with pictures   [End]
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dont stress out, there are ways around it, it is hard and takes a great deal of mental control but you can overcome the negative aspects. it took me 4 years just to ask a girl out without fear. but what ive recently noticed is that FOR ME, i capitalize because all people respond differently, humidity helps a great deal (warm climates) and working out. Working out relieves the stress and as long as i work out every few days the lips dont peel. you just need to find whats right for you. if i can give any advice, you need to get over the creams and balms, it si hard, and took me a few y ...
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True, for me, it is management, not cure, but the point is that they have been fine during stressful law school exams, and a canadian winter at its coldest considering its been -30 with wind. i go out without the scarf around my face and they are still fine. i think if i stopped they would peel again, but i dont think it would be the same as long as i found stress relieving techniques. i suggest you try it out and see if it works, plus the bonus is self confidence increases and you obtain a good looking physique. When they do flake ill explain, they just get a little hard in the peelin ...
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Am wondering if anyone out there has tried what I posted previously. I am back in the freezing winter and and working out three days a week doing weights for one hour each day, and it seems to control the peeling. My lips havent peeled since ive been back, they didnt peel while i was in brazil, and i even had exams and they werent that bad. They do flake once every few weeks or so but so do peoples lips that are normal. You guys should at least try. I found that alleviating the stress and focusing on my lips while i work out and breath heavily has reduced my symptoms by about 80%. I ...
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listen you idiot, i dont make cash, it is a website that is hosted by godaddy for free, i dont pay the monthly fee, because they put their own ads on it, look into it yourself, get off this forum because all you do is spread negativity. i took the initiative to make this website for people like us, to help, and to bring all to one place. most people are here because of me, and i hope you are not.   [End]
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my doctor agreed with the theory and explained it is possible   [End]
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if you check the archive you will see all my posts revolve around the same theory. and posts from years ago are from medical treatments i was trying that helped. so anyways, im fed up with the haters on here. this is the last of my posts. im good now, i dont need to post anymore, i was just trying to help others. PEACE OUT   [End]
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Listen, I live in Canada and traveled to europe for a school exchange, and met my girlfriend there in europe, and i am now visiting her in brazil for the holidays. Ive never mentioned anything about girls before except when i finally got the courage make a move and forget about ec. if you look at my posts i mention it was a long long time before i had the courage to get with a girl because of ec. im not fabricating anything, clearly reducing stress for me helps and maybe traveling is the key and the warm weather helps with the humidity. for me, being out of school seems to be the trick ...
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true, remission is a better term, but i like to think of it as cured because if i lived in such a climate the problem would go away entirely and it would be as though i never has it. you must remember that everyone is different and it is not the same for all, this is what works for me, and it is true that i will go back to the winter this sunday in canada and i will probably peel again and suffer again. i am just putting my thoughts out there because maybe it can help another like it has helped me. i will update when i am back home to demonstrate that this theory is correct for so ...
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So I left early december to visit my girlfriend in Brazil and as you know it is the summer here. It is 30 or more every day, with sun and humidity also. My lips have not peeled once while here. I attribute this to the warm climate. For about 4 days straight it was cool and they got thick and seemed as though they would peel but then it got hot and humid again, and they did not peel. Also I am away from school and have no stress. So this theory seems to be holding up. No stress and humidity seem to work wonders. I am still working out to which helps alleviate the stress like I mentioned bef ...
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give me a few weeks, im away but will be home in a few weeks.   [End]
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i wish it were that easy   [End]
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And for the smartass I only post what helps so try hitting the gym maybe youll see a difference.   [End]
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OK I understand the confusion. The problem is that now it is winter and the stress from exams is creeping up again. My lips out of nowhere went bad but not like they used to. They were red and did peel again but not thick peels, only very thin flakes that happened every two days or so. It was not noticeable but noticeable to me. SO with the flare up from the stress and cold i decided to hit the gym because i am heading to brazil for a month in december when exams finish. What i noticed was that my lips stopped peeling. My thinking is that the stress encountered from school is sorted ...
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I just started working out 3 weeks ago and my lips havent peeled since i started. Ill update. Im doing weights. No Peeling in 3 weeks or any serious discomfort.   [End]
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yeah its a step towards improvement - mine stopped all that a few years ago but they still peel - thats about it though, but try leaving them alone and see if they improve with the soap or anything   [End]
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here in the images under peeling lips, on this website   [End]
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hey, i posted a pic in the images, that pic is my lips now at their worst, on their worst day, they are much better compared to what they were on the website, i just leave them alone and put nothing on, it helps. the area that was cauterized is the middle upper lip. if you look, you see only one fordyce spot and on the sides on the rest of my upper lip you see hundreds. that whole area pretty much used to peel, and now only a small small section where the lips touch peels maybe once a month. so it works, there is no doubt.   [End]
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I just wanted to post my questions again about your fordyce spot cauterization. Hey They used a laser to cauterize, but I couldnt tell you which one, but every derm here in canada has the same or similar machine in their office. It wasnt a Co2 laser, I know that. There was real scabbing after, like a cut. No damage. It was very pink for a few months once healed but went normal after. In the entire spot that was cauterized there is one new fordyce spot, a small speck, but used to be about 60. It was a derm that performed the procedure. He retired unfortunately half way throu ...
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you can go get them cauterized by a derm, i did, was easy and fast and no damage, but you may need a couple session if you have a lot   [End]
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Hey I am glad to hear that about costa rica and hawaii. Every time i have gone away my problem has gone away. My doctor even confirmed the humidity theory and how it can improve the lips. Since this problem began every summer, vacation, and sunny day my lips are always better. The past three summers my problems have gone away and because it is much cooler here right now because its the fall they are getting a little worse. But, without the cat they are much better. Ill post pics soon in the website. I have to laugh, because when i go away to a humid place I dont even have EC. My plan ...
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I made the site a few years ago and I couldn’t even tell you how many doctors told me it was EC. Some didn’t know what it was but others knew right away because they saw it before. Generally, it was the young doctors that didn’t know. Those pictures are so out of date now for me that I will post new ones asap. I will make an update page.   [End]
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It wont be a cat for everyone, just allergies in general. Try it out, go get patch tested, you never know.   [End]
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So, I haven’t been around in a while because I am enjoying the fruits of success with my lips. I wanted to bring to all of you attention a few things. As most of you know i was previously away in Italy doing an exchange for school and my lips improved significantly there. I thought it was because of less stress from school and the sun and humidity. This is what I have found. It is not the sun that helps my lips but the humidity. When humid I have no problems with them. The humidity acts like a natural moisturizer. You can go into a sauna for your self and see what I mean. This ...
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hey man, this is exactly what happened to me, 100%. this happened for about 3-4 months before it turned into exfolaitive cheilitis for me. it was an alergic reaction to the chapstick i was putting on. i would suggest to leave them completely alone before it gets worse and let nature take its role. if anything, maybe use an all natural balm without chemicals or anything to alleviate the inflammation. trust me, get off that other stuff if your on it. if your on nothing the lips may just be reacting to other stressors. i remember i started wiping them down and rubbing them and using creams wh ...
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we were dating, had no problems with the kissing or anything, sure i was paranoid, especially when we did without any balm on and sober, but i forced myself to do it, kind of like public speaking is you have anxiety about that. i dont think she ever noticed, and the funniest thing is that although i realized im not really into her it took away all fear about approaching other girls. it is ridiculous to think i waited 4 years because of the psychological impact this condition has. i now have no fear whatsoever and actually did pursue others while away without thinking about my lips. do not ...
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i was away on an exchange for school and got some funding for it from the school. as for the rest, stayed with some family, and morocco only cost me $300 for 8 days.   [End]
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So I know its been over a few months but this is what Ive learned. As I finished school a few months back my lips right away went normal. The cheilitis was reduced in its severity. This had me thinking it was stress amplified. So I spent 5 weeks in Italy, and my cheilitis problem basically was non existent. Then I had an exam at the end and it came back real bad. As soon as the exam ended I went traveling throughout europe and went down to morocco, the entire problem went away 100%. This was attributed to the humidity, sun, and heat in general. I didnt have the condition, not even one seco ...
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check my website, http://www.exfoliativecheilitis.com pics are there of its recent worst no white stuff, but like i said before, i stoped eating bread at one point and the white stuff stopped as a result   [End]
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Hey all, so I was right, i finished my exams, no more stress and I am now chilling in Europe for 2 months. I have only been here for 2 and a half weeks but they have been incredible. My EC is gone, they stopped peeling, it looked like it was going to peel but then didnt which is normal, they got hard on the bottom lower lip but it went away whereas it generally peels. I am loving it. I will take pictures for you all. Also, the girl update, she is now my girl, and weve kissed etc.. Although Ive been paranoid as hell its all good, no worries. I love it, EC sucks but dont let it ruin your ...
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i actually developed an allergic reaction to bee propolis from using beesswax lip balms, it will not reduce the inflammation onkly make it worse in the long run. every derm i saw said to stay away from it, but try if you want.   [End]
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So last night I went out with my class and needless to say was with the girl the whole night, talking and hanging out. Didnt notice my lips at all because I balmed them up. Was drunk so it didnt bother me. It was great. I am starting to realize that letting this stop you from enjoying life and dating is ridiculous. I cant believe I went 4 years with this stopping me from dating. None of us should let that happen. Anyways, the funny thing is i almost bailed out before, thinking how hard it is going to be and how paranoid i will be. It wasnt that bad, well, it was until i drank up. Ive still ...
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Hey Everyone I have a quick thing to point out. I am not trying to hate on anything or anyone I am saying this in all of our interests. With all of the talk about cures and remedies can you all please remember that nothing is a remedy or cure without leaving the lips absolutely alone. You cannot try melatonin and then apply vaseline or other oils or balm because you then do not know what is helping the lips. That only confounds the study your doing. It is imperative that you apply nothing except for the one thing you using like PS and must not apply anything else until you are done you ...
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lol, yes, its called traveling.   [End]
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mine used to until i stopped putting anything on them except maybe a natural balm occasionally but i have also gone through mutiple treatments and i think when i used the medicine effudex that changed it for good. it is actually a cream for skin cancer that kills faster growing cells and because our problem has to do with the same thing i gave it a try and improved them substantially but also made them worse in certain areas as since i used it i have found it harder to talk because it affected the border where the lips touch   [End]
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yeah, the funny thing is no one every notices, my family thinks im crazy except the odd time when they ar at their worse. generally, you cant even tell though... but its how they feel to me which makes me realize   [End]
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yeah, the funny thing is no one every notices, my family thinks im crazy except the odd time when they ar at their worse. generally, you cant even tell though...   [End]
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i will post pictures of the BEFORE STRESS AFTER STRESS on my website http://www.exfoliativecheilitis.com in two months. Right now you all can see what my lips are like on that site in stress situation as those pics were from when i was studying in the winter during for the lsat (major stress). The new pics im going to post will be from europe in june as I will be there for 2 months without any stress and EC free. I know the sun and humidity will play a part as well but I just want to prove my point. Expect the pics around late june.   [End]
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i didnt mean an inch thick, i meant the problem goes down an inch into the underlying layers of tissue beyond the lips. and i do remain optimistic to beat this one day, like i said i thought i beat it last summer but then it didnt turn out how i wished.   [End]
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i only had it in the top middle area because i didnt want any adverse side effects by doing more. it was more of a test, and it seemed to work. it stopped peeling for 3 months, there may have been a slight peel here or there but nothing noticable and very rare, ive actually been thinking about doing it again because i am wiondering if it was just the humidity and sun that helped or the actualy injection. i am going to try again in september because now its summer and that wouldnt help   [End]
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Thas Great So how long did you know her before telling her about it? And what was her exact response?   [End]
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So i was avoiding the girl during exams because my lips were pretty bad so made sure i didnt run into her but i am taking her out next weekend so well see how it goes, ill probably be paranoid as hell but yeah, if it works out then ill just tell her as a take it or leave it kind of thing because there is no way you can hide it if you want to see the person all the time, I appreciate all of your advice.   [End]
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thats what i am trying to tell you, i did leave mine alone for 3 months and they were soft like a baby, but in no means were they cured, they were the best 3 months since i got it but then started law school and went downhill, they were soft, not red, not inflammed, and only flaked rather then the thick peel, but you couldnt even notice and i was able to talk, laugh, smile, etc... i truly dont know why but I assume it was because i had no stress and the sun and humidity help alot. the summer before that I was in europe and also had absolutly no problems what so ever only to come home and t ...
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no, im saying they are worse when i have exams. and i am saying the problem goes beyond our lips into the area underneath the lips. if you look into what i was saying youll figure it out.   [End]
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yes i have been on this forum for years, but i have not been in school for years to experience that kind of stress. in the summer my lips were healed and they didnt bother me at all, they werent inflammed or irritated, and they hardly peeled except for a flake or two. Then in september i went back to school after years off. and not just regular school, law school which is a thousand times more stressful. two weeks into school my lips went from normal to awful and sticky and i had hard times talking but it evened out. with final exams lately they were so bad for a month that i couldnt talk. ...
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Listen to this, for the past month i havnt been able to talk without it seriously hurting. the reason is because of the amount of school work i had. then over the past three days i have had two exams, on those days they were so bad i couldnt open my mouth or smile or anything. my exams finished today and they are no longer inflammed red sore and i just talked on the phone for 4 hours without any problems. Stress reduction is key.........   [End]
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Also, I had a Cortisol Injection in the Affected Area of Top Lip and it stopped peeling for 3 months   [End]
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Anyone Tried Gingko Biloba as it also reduces cortisol   [End]
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Cortisol Keeping a Dangerous Hormone in Check By Dave Tuttle Three studies have examined phosphatidylserine’s ability to reduce cortisol levels. In the first, a double-blind, randomized study conducted at the University of Naples, Italy, eight healthy males exercised on a bicycle ergometer (designed to increase their cortisol levels) on three separate days one week apart.10 Before each exercise session, the test subjects were given either a placebo or a 50-or 75-mg intravenous dose of phosphatidylserine. As expected, ACTH and cortisol levels rose after this intensive exercise prot ...
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Fordyce’s Spots: Does anyone not have them but has EC   [End]
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do you have them on your lower lip too, i dont, only on my top   [End]
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make sure you post what the derm says   [End]
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im not lying, why would i lie about this. this worked for me so maybe it will work for one of you. we all know everyone is different. also, i did this for like 4 months, not one or two, plus another 8 now since i stopped eating bread. WHen I stopped it was april last year and stopped for the 4 months of summer. Then i gradually added it back slowly with grilled cheese and pizza and peanut butter sandwiches. But i only eat those maybe once every two weeks if that. Therefore ots been close to a year now. everthing takes time, especially you lips and this condition. they need to adjust and y ...
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i cant remember how long, but i stopped for the whole summer and didnt even think about it, my reason for stopping was because i ate on the road fruits and vegs for work. then i realized the white stuff was gone cause in the mornign if its there it dries and makes dead skin, and that problem was gone. so i tested it, ate sandwiches, and it came back. I have to admit now i do eat pizza and grilled cheese every now and then and it comes back but hardly, and i did notice eating bread makes my lips red and inflammed the following days. try it out, you have nothing to loose, only to gain.   [End]
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yeah, when im on vacation i have no problem at all with my lips strees induced for sure   [End]
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I just stopped eating bread, havnt had it since when i drink beer or eat pizza it will come back for two days its 100% related to wheat   [End]
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thanks guys, those testimonials were encouraging, its ben 4 years now for me without a thought of even trying to get a girl, but theres this girl in my class at school and i dont know what it is but normally i wouldnt even try to talk to her because of the lips condition, but i just keep finding myself pushing towards gettign to know her. This may sound strange and maybe ’emotional’ but its just like you know theres soemthign there between tot he two of you thats not worth passing up because of a lip problem. Well, in any case, im going to give it a try. See where it goes. Im just gla ...
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just asking cause im going to find myself in that situation soon?   [End]
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I am looking for a natural thick lip balm that leaves a coating on your lips for up to 6 hours without eating or washing. all my lip balms now are not like this and i hate to continuously reapply. Can someone please make a list of all natural balms that are like this. thanks,   [End]
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this is exactly our problem, this was confirmed in my biopsy and my doctor explicitly told me this   [End]
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you know, i was thinking about the white stuff the other day and couldnt figure out why i dont have it any more, but i dont and havnt since i stopped eating bread, so maybe its connected, its the only difference in my eating habits and lifestyle habits, and it is actually quite a relief because the white stuff hardens in the mornings and causes dead skin to form which i do not have any more. I am sorry to say that it has actually stopped eating bread in july, but did ocassionaly eat it because i love it, but its really only been a few months without any except the fact that i ate 3 grilled ...
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I stopped eating bread months ago, my lips have improved dramatically, i noticed i always coughed when i ate bread so knew i had an allergy and decided to stop, the problem also started during the summer i began to eat sandwiches every day, to may connected. Anyways, they are alot better now, they peel every two days rather then 4 and are healthy. the peel it light, thin, and just peels right off without any problem.   [End]
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i had that done 3 times, it helped, but only shiort term, so youd have to keep doing it every 4 months, its not worth it, and my derm said keep the lips out of the sun as it could possibly turn into that cancer one day. great huh!   [End]
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i did, also, you just have to be patient, do nto put anything on at all, it is irritation and the skin is trying to adjust, being as we have the exact same thing, i cured that by not touching them or applying anything at all to that area. I would do the same, anything else only worsens it.   [End]
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Hey, check out my website, http://www.exfoliativecheilitis.com, your the first person that had the problem start the exact same as mine, I have a spot on the website that states everything about my condition and how it started, check it out, and email me (email on website) if you have any questions.   [End]
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thats exactly what happened to me, identicle.   [End]
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im in toronto, but havnt looked for it, i just use burts bees wax lip balm, i get it from shoppers drug mart. try it out.   [End]
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i tried it for a few months, the peeling stopped in a week but it wasnt worth it, it made my lips feel so uncomfortable that i stopped using it, they always burned, and just felt weird, i cant explain it but far from normal   [End]
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i tried protopic but all i found was that it burns and makes your lips feel irritated all the time, although it stopped the peeling it wasnt worth it. you can give it a try though, see how you like it.   [End]
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So this is the case, my ex cheilitis basically went away during the summer, i mean i still had it but you couldnt tell and it didnt bother me at all. The thing is that i was doing a delivery job and was outside all day every day, it was the first time i did this and was out like that. My job ended at the end of the summer and i went back to school, no more out side, no mroe sun, my lips went back to the bad state they were in before. So is it no stress that healed them or the sun. I think its the sun that makes them better because i was stressed otu trying to learn two languages, wor ...
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no, thats after the hell, read my about me section and youll understand how my lips were, i used beeswax balm about once a week for 3 years then was finally able to stop that after all the lip shaves and drugs. I used something called efudex which made a huge difference (its a drug for cancer of the lip), it thinned out the area greatly, meaning, the layers peeled much thinner, and from there it was patience, just not applying anything. I always made sure what i put on was natural and used a straw and fork and knife for everything, even burgers, and never let water soak the lips. One th ...
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yes, exactly, its not easy but if i can do it you can do it, and it takes months so dont expect fast results   [End]
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I am saying this because I am following the exact same path, and you honestly cannot even tell I have excheilitis anymore visually. I know I still have it, it still peels I still get the white stuff and it feels awful if i talk too much but visually you really cannot tell. It is getting so much better because I just leave them alone and dont apply anything at all. Yes I went through torture getting to this point because they were awful when you first leave them alone for a few months but you get over it. It took a year to gradually settle but they are so much better now. I urge you al ...
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your absolutely right, im on the same path and notice the exact same, i just l;eave them alone for the most part, you mind if i post yoru posting on the website http://www.exfoliativecheilitis.com in the testimonials section.   [End]
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I do not have sponsors, they are there because if you have your web site hosted free by a company they place there sponsors there.   [End]
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I have something to say here, I have created my website http://www.exfoliativecheilitis.com to help us, and solely to help us, and the main purpose was to bring everyone to one forum where we could discuss this and share remedies. This forum is here, in curezone. Someone out there and probably on this forum started a copy website with the same name and is starting there own forum. Thsi is what we do not want. The while point is to get wveryone to one site and not different sites, how can we ever learn if that was the case. I am just sharing my belief about this. I hope the co ...
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yes it returned to normal after 6 months   [End]
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check the website http://www.exfoliativecheilitis.com they are on there   [End]
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I did the laser thing, it definately helped and reduced the area, but it is no cure, after about 6 months the area came back, but if your looking for a fix that you will do a few times a few it is well worth it, i didnt bother because i am more worrird about damage from several uses of that laser and making it worse, but give it a go at least once. there is one area on me that was lasered real deep and you can tell i had ec there but it doesnt peel anymore, in the top upper middle, a portion of that area, i am very happy with that because that was the most annoying area.   [End]
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we shhould all seriously investigate this problem, it is common in all of us as far as i know, and all have it usually in the morning, the only other time i get it is during physical activity when i breath through my mouth for a while which seems to exacerbate the growth of it. please all add to this thread.   [End]
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mine did too but believe me, leave them alone and the situation will turn for the better, i stayed in one whole summer for 3 months and left them alone and didnt touch them when they were cracking and bleeding, after the summer i started using an all natural balm so i could go out, but sparingly, and they slowly stopped the cracking and bleeding, the still do if i put on lots of balm, but only if i do that.   [End]
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I seem to think the the problem for us is the white stuff that grows in our mouths, we all seem ti have it, and it is only where the problem exists and is only found in the morning upon waking. Has anyone had this tested, do they know what it is, maybe it is a fungus that causes ex cheil. Does anyone out htere not have the white stuff with ex cheil.   [End]
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Ok, I should have been more detailed, sorry, I havnt got them wet at all, i basically dried them out completely, no water, no moisturizers, no saliva at all, no licking. I didnt let anything touch them. I drank with a straw every time, and used a fork and knife with burgers and sandwiches, and still do. When they were dry and looked bad i left them alone. They got extremely dry, but after several months started to adapt, and began to feel more normal, I actually started going out without lip balm occasionally and talked without problems, as one could with ex cheilitis, as i do have the c ...
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So here is the deal, what i have done is basically left my lips alone completely, and boy was it hard, I first went through several months of occassionally applying vaseline only during events where i was going to have to talk alot to people. Then I stopped everything and in the past 3 months have only applied chapstick about 4 or 5 times for sun protection only, and my lips are a million times better then before, they peel incredibly and the area looks like it is shrinking, the skin just comes off and they dont even look like ex cheilities anymore, just small indents on the bottom lip wh ...
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he said dont lick them, bite them, pick them, use scissors to trim the edges, use water when excessively dry rather then licking, dont press lips, dont put pressure on lips, use a small amount of vaseline if you absolutely have to by cleaning your lips with a little water first then apply a small amount of vaseline on affected area, then wash it off, he said its caused by either the sun which in our case its not, only in older farmers from being out all day everyday, or from fungus which its not because our bioposy’s ruled that out, or from an allergy. Mine is from an allergy but you guys ...
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let me know what you guys think.   [End]
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So i went to this specialist and he was the first physician that knew what it was, he was like ”thats ex cheilitis man”. He knew everything, and he said dont touch them, dont even apply beeswax balms or anything, leave them alone and apply a little water everynow and then or else it will be long term, meaning for life, he said peelign off the skin is the worst thing you can do because it makes it peel faster therefore the cells reproduce faster, and the best thing is to slow down the process by letting the thick layers form and peel themselves.   [End]
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ive researched pure lanolin and it def. should not be used on the lips. it is irritating and can only exacerbate the problem after prolonged use.   [End]
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HAVE ANY OF YOU NEWCOMERS FOUND YOUR WAY HERE BECAUSE OF http://www.exfoliativecheilitis.info   [End]
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Hi, would you be able to acturately detail your procedure for the lemon technique, your daily routine etc... How often did you apply, what times of day, how much, when did you and how did you exfoliate, thanks, ill gladly post it on the website as well if you wish.   [End]
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hi, your problem sounds alot like how mine started, exactly actually. What your experiencing is an allergic reaction to that your putting on your lips. Probably the propolis in the beeswax balm. I suggest just putting an all natural oil on you lips every day for a month and let them settle. It takes time. Mine took several months. Hopefully you ca ward off any future exfoliative cheilitis which will probably result if you dont care for them properly now, that was my biggest mistake. Use pure shea butter or cocoa butter or something, make sure it is pure and no chemicals or beeswax. You ...
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If the lemon technique worked for you can you please wait a month and apply nothing at all to your lips, not even lip balm, and then tell us if it worked, cause if you havnt done this then you will be only causing mixed emotions.   [End]
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what laser was used on your lips and what areas and what exactly were your results, was it a cauterization, did it bleed scab or pus etc... could you please fill me in as im trying to get an appointment with a local derm who specializes in the laser technology. thanks.   [End]
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i went to a local store and bought 2 plants and used the gel for the leaves, and your right it may work for someone else.   [End]
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Personally, I think you guys are crazy to put lemon on your lips, that stinging would be awful, and I can only see it making things worse in the long run, like making new areas peel or not, I am obviously not a doctor but I do know that making your lips peel, like pulling off the skin when it is not ready is the worst thing you can do, it just irritates the skin and makes it worse, think about how your lips responds to it, it sends signals that it has to target the area by creating an inflammation which makes it red to stop the spread of anything abnormal then triesd to heal the area. How ...
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I tored the alow vera thing for a month but to no avail. It didnt work although it made them feel a little better.   [End]
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I hear you, my derm said the same thing, that it should heal in time, but that may be 10 or 20 years from now. He also said it was an allergy. If I apply lip balm several times a day my problem goes away too, but if I stop it comes back, so be wary if you stop, your hopes may be shot down, as I was in Europe for the summer and applied every day several times a day lip balm and they were like I never had the problem, but I stopped when I got home cause I didnt want to become addictive and for it to get worse. I’d rather apply it when there was something important like a trip, family ou ...
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I was wondering if I could post your statement on my website http://www.exfoliativecheilitis.info It was excellent and I am in need of a few more testimonials, I would post it under testimonials, and since your theory is identicle to my beliefs about our condition I would love to use it. cureforcurezone   [End]
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PS: that also supports my theory on children in elementary schools as it being a defense mechanism in their lips to harsh weather. and uklad at least the person is trying, no reason to be vituperative   [End]
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Thank You I am glad someone else out there agrees with my cellular turnover theory and with the damage to the cells memory.   [End]
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I ust started using this balm as a result of beoming allergic to the other I was using and it is amazing, helps a million, makes it peel in one clean sweep, on then off, my lips feel a whole lot better too, you guys should try it out.   [End]
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i actually just left them alone for 3 weeks without anytihng and they got really thick and had about6 layers of dead skin on them and they just got worse and worse until they were like a rock, my whole botom lip starting peeling lightly in places where it didnt before to compensate for the inability to function. The healthy areas peeled to elease the unhealthy areas, which made it worse. I do not suggest doing this, it cuould just worsen the problem.   [End]
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Actually, mine resulted from overuse of chapstick, I know everyone is different but mine did result from a chemical trauma (and it was an addiction, if I apply chapstick now I get a physical relief and the lips go back to normal without peeling for many days, even a week) to the cells and as a result lost their ability to moisturize theirselves and replenish normally. The problem with the lips, as many derms agreed with me, is that their was some type of severe TRAUMA to the cells (chapstick / lip biting) and now the cells reproduce at a rapid rate, at an adnormal rate, and this is the cel ...
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i wish it were that simple, ive gone the healthy road but it doesnt make a large difference. our problem is not internal, if it were many people would have healed theirselves but yet only a few have out of how many, a few is such a small number compared to everyone on this forum. chances are that those people didnt even have our condition just a mild case of chronic chapped lips. ive only read about one guy who did liver flushes and healed, probably not the same condition as ours, and one peson who uses oils and healed but if off them they go back to normal. so are these people really heal ...
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i think you need to relax, it will take weeks to notice any changes. mu lip is only lopsided slightly because i told her to cut out enough deep tissue to see if it heals properly. it was worth a shot. after my biopsy my skin healed perfectly, lip looked normal, and then it burned and the skin was eaten away by what ever is in our lips. WHat ever is in our lips (fungus yeast or whatever) completely ate through to the top layer. I remembber the lip was perfect at bed time and then allnight i was in agony and then in the morning it was as if the affected area was back and it was a fresh w ...
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yeah there mine unfortunately, i look at them and think whoa, i just showed a friend the website and they said that its hard to believe a thing like this even exists, it made me think that I wouldnt believe it if it didnt happen to me. Anyways, my biopsy was on the left side, yes it is less lip there cause of the biopsy. it is normal to be like that on the other side, thats what it is supposed to look like.   [End]
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no, just followed the docs orders   [End]
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sure i noticed that too, i=om mine its fine but then i checked it on my bros and it was light so i guess its the comp differences. Ill change it soon.   [End]
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This is the format below. Can some of you please take your time to fill these questions in as i need ome testimonials for the website http://www.exfoliativecheilitis.info This is very important, I am continuously updating and am about to get the petition going. I need your help though and I am disturbed at the lack of help i am getting from all of you. This website os for all od us and if you have any suggestions then i will do my best to alter the site for al of you. Gender: Age: How long have you had exfoliative cheilitis?: Symptoms: How has this made you feel?: ...
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the first was cefzil or something like that and the second is cant remember. It was a stronger mox for bacteria and fungus and worked better. Its been around for centuries my doc said   [End]
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funny you mention gluten because I have stopped intake of this as best I could, and have noticed a sliht improvement in my lips. Ive ate whole wheat bread for the past 3 years every day and my problem started when I started living off of sandwiches. I always seem to cough when I eat bread as well, some type of allergic reaction. I dont think its a cause but definately connected. I keep you updated. Its only been 4 days. I miss sandwiches but I miss my lips more. Also, ive kept a food diary for 6 months to see what makes it worse and what doesnt effect my lips. This could help som ...
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