Doxycycline kills a bacteria that lives in the worms and is essential for their embryos to develop. 3-4 wks 200mg/day. Stay out of sunshine while on Doxy. Once you can reduce the number of eggs laid, you can start to decrease adult & larval numbers. Email me for info to buy online. Moxidectin PLUS is a horse wormer with Moxi (a long lasting form of Ivermectin) AND praziquantel which works on flat worms. 1 dose lasts for several months. Must be careful not to overdose. I take my weight on dial 1x/mo. NASTY tasting. I put on butter & drink it down with coffee. Moxi can cause ...
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I’ve been coping aggressively with a worm infestion for over 5 years now; systemic and disseminated (everywhere) including genital. I have noticed increased activity several days AFTER taking the meds and now believe that is them trying to rapidly reproduce/hatch in response. I now consider this activity as a positive sign. Currently I am in remission with very little/weak activity following the monthly moxi and 5 days Fenbendazole. I take Doxy 2x/year to reduce their ability to reproduce. These are very successfully evolved parasites that can survive much. They lay eggs which can ...
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I did not see that you have tried Doxycycline. This antibiotic kills the symbiotic bacteria that have evolved within roundworms and performs a critical step in embryogenesis for the worms. 3-6 wks of 200 mg Doxy daily (I used aquarium product from online auction site). Once the Wolbachia are eliminated, the worms are effectively sterile and cannot reproduce. It doesn’t kill the worms in any way. Once sterilized, your meds could be much more effective in killing off the remaining adults and the Fenbendazole can work on the encysted ones. I have seen excellent results for dissemin ...
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Amazingly I JUST saw these very things online. Schistosomiasis   [End]
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I used PRZ for fish (aquariums) purchased online at the auction site. They come in various sizes. Powder is bitterly nasty-tasting and best put into capsules. I have had no problem using any of the veterinary meds and have successfully used horse, goat, dog, fish, cattle and poultry wormers. Just keep an eye on dosage as sometimes a human sized dose is quite big when using small bird or fish wormers.   [End]
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I used PRZ powder for fish (aquarium) purchased online from the Auction Site. Comes in different sizes; all nasty-tasting & bitter. MUST be put into capsules.   [End]
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Hello. Describe the ”thrashing around”. I have stronglyoides (among others) and they have disseminated to my skin/lymphatics/tissues/eyes/sinuses. They tend to buzz/vibrate in the muscles off and on for a day or so: i have had these in the muscles of my legs, arms, back, feet, butt, etc. They can also feel like they are crawling up or down a body part or across the ribs. I also had a huge problem (way back when they were many more) in my genitourinary system and stomach. They were in my eyes, ears & sinuses. I didn’t feel vibrations in these tissues, but certainly see the local ...
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NO. It did NOT work well. This drug (Levimisol) caused our infestation to move to the skin where it has stayed now - forever. It is/was much more treatable in the GI tract but in the skin/lymph, not so. Now that we are beyond all of this and in our last stages of treatment that worked (Sharkman), we will move later this year to maintenance/preventive doses only. The low dose thing did NOT work; it does not affect the parasites and it DOES increase risks of immunity. Sharkman’s protocol DID work and HAS worked to reduce our parasites to few, few few. There will always be encyst ...
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Moxidectin is an Ivermectin-type product. It is very long-lasting and needs dosing no more than 1/month. Quest Plus (horse) has moxidectin and praziquantel (for flukes) together and works amazingly well. It is powerful so be prepared for die off. Use dial to dose for your weight. It is also horrid-tasting. The best way that I have taken it is to put all or part dose on a small pat of butter and holding it carefully in your mouth WITHOUT TOUCHING IT, swallow a mouthful of hot coffee or tea. I expect to continue this product probably forever to handle the Time-Bomb-Eggs that have ...
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Doxycycline (antibiotic that kills bacteria living in parasites rendering parasites sterile). I bought it on the on-line auction site - antibiotic for aquariums - use 100 mg twice a day. Avoid sunshine - makes skin super sensitive. Need minimum of 21 days; 6 wks ideal. Does NOT kill the parasitic things themselves but they cannot reproduce without this bacteria. Then go at them with the FenBen & Moxi. Slow and steady.   [End]
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Another 2 cents. Albendazole didn’t work well for my disseminated strongyloids, nor did the Ivermectin and I even took it by injection. It all seemed to help for a short while (a day or two) but then they invariably returned. Very discouraging. My son (optometrist) strongly discouraged my IVM use for huge eye risk. The ONLY thing that has helped me was Sharkman’s Protocol. Doxy for 21 days, then fenbendazole 10mg/kg twice per day for 5 days at the full moon and moxidectin horse dose per weight once a month. After several restarts (I do not do well on Doxy, but finally made the ...
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Jumping in the middle here. My understanding (from the literature) is that the Doxy kills Wolbachia bacteria that live symbiotically within nematodes and are essential for worm embryo development. It takes at least 3 wks of Doxy to eliminate the Wolbachia. The worm parasites are not affected by Doxy but they can then be attacked by the IVM (or Moxidectin) and Fenbendazole while they cannot reproduce. Over time their numbers can be reduced overall.   [End]
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Hello. I, like you, found these several research studies using parenteral IVM instead of oral. I used almost a whole bottle of it over several months. Tried several brands. First, the only needle/syringe I could get were for insulin administration which are tiny, narrow & subcutaneous. The dosage is the same as the oral. The injected medication is amazingly painful but because I was so sick, I persisted. Had to break each dose into 3 parts so I had to inject the dose in 3 different places. Then several minutes to recover from the pain after each injection. It did work, as mu ...
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I have found that after taking killing antiparasitic meds (Moxi, FenBen) that there IS increased activity. I have come to believe that they have been threatened and are attempting to breed quickly. As I kill them over time, I have fewer and fewer vibrating/buzzing (mating call) parasites following dosing. Just now killing the last ones(hopefully) in my face (eyes, sinuses, facial and neck muscles) after completing some dental work (reducing infection sources). I can tell because the little skin tags are drying up and I have some puckering on my skin and almost no activity following ...
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Hello, Your note popped up in the middle of an old post, but it DID pop up. I used Prazi for fish from on-line auction site. Powder. Tastes HORRID. GI side effects. Suggestion: newer med works great (Sharkman suggestion). Oxibendazole horse paste (Anthelcide), Amazon or Vet store 30 mg/kg - Usual horse dose 10mg/kg (your weight/2.2=kg kg x 30 = your dose) Dial it on syringe at 3x your weight. No side effects or problems and no real taste. Squirt it out onto a spoon and fill up remainder of spoon with something yummy. Take this no more than 1x/wk. I took i ...
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Tickly feelings anywhere in the body (they are in the skin/lymphatics/GI & blood). Vibrate for mating after they have been threatened with anti-parasitic drugs. Dark areas (looks like bruising)/nests in ankles & lower legs, especially in places of previous injury - they seem to prefer healed areas (sprained ankles, punctured areas, scars). Odd patches of callus (dry skin) on the feet and toes. Tiny warty-looking skin spots appear where they tickle (they stick little tubes out of the skin nests which I can feel sometimes that later develop into these spots. The skin things dry up a ...
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Thanks Sharkman! We’re on it.   [End]
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Welcome BACK! You are our hero. We are 2 old people following behind in your footsteps for several years. Last round, last year, we stopped too early and our stronglyoides came back. Darn. So, will keep this up forever now. We have been taking Doxy for about 9 months (difficult for me because of nausea/rash but have managed at least 3 wks/session). Taking FenBen (goat) 2X/D for 5 days (20mg/kg/day) at the 2 moons with IVM between (3 days on/1 off). However my son, (eye dr) has been fussing about the potential eye damage r/t IVM, but these worms were hyper and nasty and we ...
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Hello, Generally we cannot access human ivermectin as it requires a prescription AND is quite costly. Most of us use veterinary meds which are available and are cost and treatment effective. The horse paste or gel is available on Amazon or eBay or vet or farm supply stores. The dosage is the same as for the horse (by weight). about 10 doses per syringe. Squirt it onto a spoon & top it with honey or maple or applesauce. No issues   [End]
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Just HAD to jump in here. I’ve been taking FenBen for almost a year now; along with Doxy and IVM per Sharkman. I’ve made significant progress fighting disseminated red threadworms Stronglyoides (which I got after a poorly-informed doc prescribed steroids). A few observations: I bought a large bottle of vet FenBen (1000 mL) and I carefully keep it refrigerated. I decant some into a small bottle for dosing (also kept in fridge). It seems to be much more effective than the little, older bottles (that I bought off the shelf @ Farm Supply store) that sat in the cupboard between dose ...
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i’VE had red threadworms (stronglyoides from horses) in my lymphatic system for over a year now. They went there when my pulmonologist prescribed steroids for wheezing. Turned out it was parasitic white worms cycling through my lungs. Physician dumped me asap and thanks to CZ i was able to sort it out myself. I tried everything I could get after extensive research. Was able to rid myself of white worms (hook?) and ascaris but these threadworms are impossible. In Feb, I started a 21-day cycle of Doxy followed by a dose of DEC. This actually worked. NO symptoms, no crawlers, everyt ...
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Hi, Try on-line auction place - get the one for an aquarium. Go well!   [End]
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Other than Dr Yu, we think alike about American physicians. BUT, we can do better managing our own health anyway than they can/will! I use Fish Doxy (ebay) 100 mg pills. Take 2/day. Stay out of sunshine. According to the research, 21 days of Doxy then 1 dose of DEC 8mg/kg AT $ MONTHS later is supposed to handle filiarial worms for a year. Another study reported significant improvement when ALB was added. I know that Matt reported that we must take care of flukes first but now that it is over (hoping only :), it really doesn’t seem to matter. The flukes responded to the ...
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Hi Rainshaker, I’ve been battling round and flat worms and red thread worms in my lymph for a year now. I finally went to see Dr. Yu in St. Louis (out of desperation) and he was great - prescribed IVM 100 mg 4x/D for 10 days every month for 6 months (along with antifungals and supplements). I did fine with this. Besides this human IVM, I have also taken IVM horse paste and IV subcutaneous injection without difficulty. Few side effects are reported. The only real issue that I can find is that IVM CAN affect the eyes and vision but I think with moderate use it would be fine. I’ve do ...
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Yee. I made bottles of DMSO with all of my wormers and finally just poured them all together. I used it locally and it DOES work. Just not in eyes. Good luck. The only good worm parasite is a dead one.   [End]
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Just to jump in here. DMSO will dissolve and deliver most things into the tissues but not sure if in adequate amounts to equal oral intake. I have found that the nozzle on the horse paste works great; just dial your dose and squirt it directly into gelatin capsules. The capsules will become a bit soft, but easily last a day.   [End]
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Hello, I too have this same thing: stronglyoid red thread worms (filiarial). At first they were along with white lung worms and an assortment of GI worms, tapes and flat flukes. Over this last year I have aggressively taken just about everything - all in an organized, appropriately-dosed regimen along with diet alterations (ketogenic with intermittent fasting). Over this last year I have removed all the whites from my lungs, sinuses & those stuck to my throat. Praziquantel or niclosamide - 1 series/month cleared out A LOT of flat wormm. Liver flushes. Then the larger GI ’thin ...
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I am a bit confused by your request. Eosinophils are usually elevated with parasites and allergies so the norm is 0. Maybe you are thinking of neutrophils? These are your infection-fighting white blood cells which would be depressed by steroids.   [End]
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Hello Don, I coughed up my first worm (white) July, 2017 and have desperately been trying to handle this ever since. I had white worms in my lungs, multiple flukes, tapes and red thread stronglyoides that moved to my organs and skin (crawlers). I have taken just about everything since then and have made some real progress only lately. Today (for the first time only) I feel hope that perhaps I am beating them. Don’t push the doctor thing; they will label you with a ’worm psychosis’ and prescribe accordingly. Worse yet, it goes into your computerized medical record and affects ...
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Hello. I hear you. In July, 2016 I examined exactly what I was coughing up and found that it was a white worm - about 1.5-2”. FREAKED ME OUT! I COMPLETELY understand your/our situations. Formerly very healthy and fit 71 yo, I was suddenly very ill with no functioning immune system, massive fatigue & anorexia and a nonstop, productive cough - full of worms. Google brought me right here where I found and received so much help and information that I am now (almost a year later) slowly coming out of it - pretty much on our own. I had a complex infection (multiple species - several fl ...
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I am yet ANOTHER parasite host(ess) dealing with much the same issues. It really doesn’t seem to matter too much exactly what these things are. They have several life forms and stages and quite difficult to get exact answers. Luckily (!?) it doesn’t seem to matter what you are killing, just kill them. I don’t think we are ever going to kill them ALL off, but we CAN reduce their numbers so they are not such miserable squatters and maybe we can reduce their rate of replication. In any case I have used Ivermectin ALOT without any problems. The oral horse gel was not very effec ...
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For some reason, this forum appeared this morning on my CZ logon. Even though it is old, I found it amazingly exciting because I have come to the exact same conclusion this very morning! My worm infestation (hyper-infection in fact) came from my eating nothing but organic foods both in Florida & Ohio (winter & summer). I first became sick after eating a salad in Fla (Feb) (at the Mexican restaurant). Within a month I had pulmonary symptoms, wheezing and desperately ill. Ended up taking the acid reducers, steroids and antibiotics prescribed by well-meaning but poorly informed phys ...
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Lets try this again: http://curezone.com/upload/Parasites/Liver_Flukes_an/Intestinal_Flukes.jpg   [End]
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Can anyone tell me what these things are? I found this image in the file and mine are the same. I am not sure what I have done to get them out but they are coming in droves. Better out than in but I need to know what they are so I can go after them!   [End]
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After a couple of very rocky and discouraging days (month), I THINK I may actually be winning! After huge night-time worm activities and non-stop day-time crawling activities, I’ve kept up the anti-parasite meds (throwing pretty much everything I have at them), managing pH & toxic dumps (coffee enema, MSM, charcoal, chlorella) for days. After sleeping for a full 10 hrs (!) last night, i woke up feeling ’different’, almost normal (but drained). Mucus is normal (hasn’t been for MONTHS), coughing minimal & only tiny amt ’normal’ sputum. No crawling anywhere; knee ’remarkably’ improved, ...
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It IS reassuring to know that I am not alone with this craziness. This parasite thing is fairly new for me and I’m trying frantically to get up to speed in managing (ie KILLING) it. ALOT to learn. I was surprised to hear that you would back off the treatment. Wouldn’t it be a good sign to have a reaction which would mean you ARE affecting them? Keep it up and maybe even increase it. ???   [End]
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Interesting night! Something is happening - significant increase in phlegm all day (mucous changes in pulmonary, sinuses and GU tracts) but not the typical (?) thick, nasty tasting, biofilm with ’things’ in it: only phlegm but lots of it. Jerked awake at 3:!5 AM by increased HR, suddenly freezing cold, loud ringing in ears & weird pit-of-the-stomach/belly feeling (ominous). Could feel squiggling in gut in several places (felt like bigger creature however). Then after a few minutes all back to normal, but headache. Then same thing happened 2 more times then all over. Birthing?? ...
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Stupid Question: how to use/dose OXBen & FenBen? Topical or oral?   [End]
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No WAY can I sit this out without fighting back. MIgrans everywhere; legs aching; knees unbendable, tickly feet. pH acid (took 2 MSM), pulse rapid, temp low. Went ahead & dosed IVM & ALB. garlic. papain/cranberry. Aggressive migrans on face; persistent & legs despite Quest, IVM topical. Still passing dead red babies.   [End]
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What horrid things these are! IVM (oral, topical, rectal) only stopped them for a short while. I had a couple of good days and felt better and actually started eating a bit, BUT it continues. So, I am trying to understand what is happening - mostly reading here at CZ. DEFINITELY agree that this is the place to be and you guys are awesome. THANK YOU ALL. So, after starting on Prz, ALB, PPZ, got huge migrans issue. Bladder area unbearable. Took 1 dose of LEV (test dose) which made everything worse. 1 dose Pyrantel & 2 days of IVM & ALB gave me some relief and sleep and able to ea ...
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Hi Willow, Wow, what a history! If you don’t mind, I would love to chat with you here as we do have similarities, and it may save Matt from some double effort. I have apparently had parasites for some time (without much issue apparently) until night-time coughing & asthma sent me to the Drs. several months ago. In a nutshell, I took the stomach acid reducers, systemic steroid and a z-pac they prescribed (ignoring the high eosinophils and low WBC, anemia & vit D levels). Pulmonary symptoms stopped but only temporary as now I seem to have a hyper infection of worms (which sent me to ...
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Last PPM I skipped the Prazi dose and took the ALB, Pyrantel and rectal IVM. What a difference - NO crawling, pulmonary Sx minimal, even the biofilm is different - more like normal mucus instead of worm biofilm. Feel amazing in fact. Even as a horse owner, we all wondered about the absorption of oral IVM as the horses always needed alot more dosing.   [End]
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Hi Willow. What is your situation? Matt & I seem to be dealing with strongylides - threadworm. Fran   [End]
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Hey Matt, I never considered a strongyloid infection. Have done a quickie search and found some interesting stuff. Considered a lifelong infection because tooo difficult to eradicate. sigh. everyone agrees ivermectin as drug of choice. Can give rectal or SQ. have found half price injectable on ebay; buying 2. Recommend 2 wks on & 1 wk off - like for ever. Migrans attracted to substance in skin,especially on feet. this substance messed up by metal ions- identified as possible treatment. colloidial silver?? headed off shopping for distilled water and OxyBen.   [End]
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Even though my digital scale says it measures mg, it won’t give me 50 mg. It ends up being a huge pile! No time to go buy new one. By the way, eyes responding to colloidial silver drops; less reddened & feel a bit better.   [End]
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OK Matt, 2nd opinion: Packet of Levamisole = 46.8 Grams Instructions for cattle: dissolve packet in 1 qt water (32 Oz) which is good for 90 days. So - 46.8 G in 32 oz = 46,800 mg in 32 oz = 1462.5 mg/oz = 48.75 mg/mL (if i oz = 30 mL) so I will take 1 mL of this three (3) times daily. i weigh 133# so OK if it is a little less than 150mg/D. They are doing horrid things in my lower belly - will start mixing this now.   [End]
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Wow Matt, this will keep me busy for some time; THANK YOU. I VERY MUCH LIKE your dietary thoughts. We have been eating ketogenic for years now & have started pulsing some resistant starches twice/week mostly cold, boiled white potatoes, tapioca starch & plantains (per Dr. Mercola) to help maintain blood sugar. We also take capyrlic acid MCT oil regularly. We had just added fruit juices & yogurt per CZ which I think highly encourage these worms. Will immediately switch back to keto and see if that helps. Seems like it MAY hinder them a bit more at least.   [End]
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OMG Thank you Matt!!! it is so reassuring that you are here! I’m on all of it! Shopping. Already have alot of this stuff and eating most of these foods. Not good with yogurt made with pasteurized milk - we live on water kefir & kombucha - assume these will work? NO appetite currently; will have to force. Will start on LEV; not sure how to dose it. I have a packet of drench powder (52 Grams). Will get out calculator & see if I can figure it out. Sounds like I need to also start on DEC as soon as it arrives. and Fenben. Shall I continue with PraziQ (causing stomach issue ...
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Matt, I am SO grateful for your help!! What is OxBen and GSH? Just ordered some Xanthoparmelia capsules from Amazon. How often can I take IVM? Any issues with toxicity? Pyrantel? Horrid GERD at 1am so got up & dosed IVM.   [End]
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Thanks for the help with this! I have been on Matt’s protocol now for 4 days following 2 wks of ALB and IVM with Pyrantel every 3 wks. Basically adding PZQ & PPZ citrate to the ALB. Yesterday I felt great; first time in a LOOOONG time. However PPM dose of PZQ still not staying down - horrid gastric upset again. Any suggestions? Not the yogurt. Maybe if I exchange the PPM dose of PZQ with an earlier ALB?? Have not seen any worms or flukes in the toilet for at least a week, even after a liver flush. After FINALLY settling down late last night, the itching started and I could f ...
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CZ? CureZone? I sm here; the ONLY place that seems to be current. Have been on your protocol for 3 days now & hanging in there OK. PPM dose of PZQ caused MAJOR gastric upset last night. Perhaps the yogurt? We normally use only grass fed, raw dairy and no milk so maybe that. Took AM dose with yogurt and so far, so good. Things seem to be quiet and I am feeling MUCH better. Started exercising again & no brain fog, fatigue. Have been working on clearing sinuses and liver/gallbladder which seem to be connected somehow. When I do am coffee enema or liver flush, I get almost immedi ...
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Thanks Matt for the doc. Our current status: no Dr will help; We live very rural area with few other options; awaiting hair analysis results; have send stool samples to Ubiome.com but no response yet - not even sure what they will be doing anyway. Have a HUGE supply of supplements (many we were already taking) some concern with ALA, Carnitine r/t amalgams, have emergency supplies already. pH occasionally acidic but usually OK (7ish). Using MSM when low. Using your protocol, tried to treat flukes first. No idea what a challenge test is. ?? Took Pyrantel & IVM. Lots of Mg, includi ...
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Hi Matt, I just HAD to talk with you after reading this post. I HOPE you are willing to help us. We are an elderly couple (72&76y), formerly VERY fit and healthy. Everything ground to a halt last winter when I became very ill (after a cruise to Mexico, Belize & Honduras). Wheezing & non-stop coughing. Saw several MDs who were NOT helpful and prescribed the worst things for me (antibx, systemic steroids, acid blockers) in hindsight. These meds only precipitated a horrid immune response and significant worsening of symptoms. I am an RN and took to the literature and eventuall ...
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Just like those ahead of me, I found all of you when I coughed up one of these things! And Google brought me here. I too have the sticky mucus and the same symptoms and history. Am busily trying to attack them, but finding more and more possibilities (ropeworms!) which explain my weird symptoms (I feel them crawling and digging). Am now TOTALLY FREAKED. I am currently taking Albendazole and Ivermectin (about 2 1/2 wks in) and have been taking 1/4 C of silver every morning and have just started Oil of Oregano capsules. This morning I also put silver in my neti pot. I am so gl ...
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