cUREZONE isn’t organized well anymore, can’t reply to threads even if logged in, etc. It’s a shame this site is such a mess now. The log-in merry go round is such a disaster. And when I tried to contact the webmaster through the official contact us page, I got an error. Nobody is manning this ship!   [End]
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The layout of the forums has gotten worse over time, not better: we can’t see the ”R” for recommended messages or the ”Star award” messages menu anymore. That feature, back when it existed, was the main feature that made visiting the forums worthwhile.   [End]
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”from what you have read” from vegan propaganda. And decidedly untrue.   [End]
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Real results disagree with you. Distilled water is not safe and does not selectively remove ”bad” minerals while leaving ”good minerals” -- I know someone who drank distilled for several years, and by the end had severe osteoporosis. And that’s a man, only in his early 50s, which is a population that doesn’t usually get osteoporosis   [End]
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Natalia, stop being so blind. The person clearly is NOT selling these products - they are two completely different manufacturer brands. You can buy them on any big supplement distribution site, but they are not made by only one company. One is ”Now” brand, (see photo) and one is ”Source Naturals” brand (see photo). Stop being this way, Natalia, it’s not helping anyone.   [End]
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So don’t inhale it! Lots of nutritious foods are dangerous if you inhale them into your lungs. Bacillus Subtilus is meant to be swallowed, not sucked into your lungs. Pure scare mongering this is, nothing more.   [End]
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”Dr.” McCombs is wrong. Here are studies proving it: http://www.curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=1912186#i   [End]
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Agave syrup has a lot of fructose, and fructose feeds candida: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agave_nectar Is a page listing fructose content in Agave https://books.google.com/books?id=wPCb1rjN2Q8C&pg=PA71&lpg=PA71&dq=fructose+albicans+-germ+-cart+-bisphosphate+-gene+growth&source=bl&ots=qPON0Rdxrj&sig=gibG5b-aswlcNOa6z77s7v0B2W4&hl=en&sa=X&ei=wq9AVYaNG4HVggTYjIRQ&ved=0CEgQ6AEwBg#v=onepage&q=fructose%20albicans%20-germ%20-cart%20-bisphosphate%20-gene%20growth&f=false Is one citation on fructose feeding candida I didn’t read most of the long paragraph of your post - long unbroken p ...
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For a very different opinion on carbs, read the book ”The Perfect Health Diet” by Paul Jaminet. His candida healed when he added back in a modest amount of safe starches. Too low carb can equal more problems.   [End]
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There are several threads on this candida forum (not the Dr. Jeff forum, which tries to play down posts about gymnema) citing a study in which the herb called gymnema blocks the switch that candida takes to turn into hyphal growth. It is a shame that the Dr. Jeff (”the candida expert”) forum has removed my ability to post on his forum after I made a post there about gymnema. Gymnema does the same thing that the product that Dr. Jeff sells does. I guess Dr. Jeff didn’t want people to have a less expensive product, that he doesn’t sell. To find the threads in this candida forum a ...
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This Color Therapy forum doesn’t exist, apparently. The entire first page of posts has not one single post about color therapy.   [End]
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How many proven studies do we have to trot out to get rid of the ridiculous beliefs of some people - even practitioners Dr. Jeff!! - that menstrual pain has anything to do with ”it’s in your head” or past emotional trauma? What century do you live in? The levels of specific pain mediating body chemicals has been proven to be different in women who suffer from menstrual pain from those who don’t. Specific. Body. Chemicals. Scientific blood tests. Not mumbo jumbo emotional fairy tales. If someone had a genetic difference in those body chemical levels that made their finger hurt ...
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Seriously, when is the medical establishment going to acknowledge that overly low blood pressure is not as rare as they think it is? People who always have blood pressure test results much, much lower than normal people do, are at risk of fainting and other health problems. People act like high BP is the only BP problem out there. I welcome stevia’s blood pressure raising effect, thank you - my BP is consistently too low.   [End]
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Did you do a word search in this forum for Lufenuron? Especially because there were many falures reported here in the forum, where people did not improve by taking Lufenuron. Just worth reading before you spend money!   [End]
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No, actually calcium spurs are caused by not enough vitamin K to get calcium where it belongs - inside bones - and get calcium away from where it does not belong. Taking more calcium without enough vitamin K will only exacerbate the problem, according to every study I’ve read on vitamin K. K2 is, I believe, the best form of vitamin K, rather than K1.   [End]
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Hi Beatty57, something that has helped me overcome a lingering tooth infection in the past, that maybe could be useful for you... Make a mouth rinse out of water with a little oregano oil in it. Oregano oil is in health food stores. I actually use the kind sold for ”external use only” because it is far less expensive, but if that scares you, they sell the type that can be swallowed, that is a bit pricier. A bottle lasts forever, it is so strong. And it kills germs fairly deep in the gums. Made my infection slowly disappear. It worked when many other home remedies (like salt wat ...
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I'd like to read about your progress, so yes please do post as time goes by. The additional step you might consider, that I'm reading a lot about this fall, is using resistant starch (not the same as regular starchy food) combined with psyllium, to promote the good bacteria in the lower gut. Thread about this is here:   [End]
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The description of GH3 sounds like false advertising in this regard: here’s a study proving that PABA is easily absorbed when taken orally, contrary to GH3’s statement that PABA isn’t well absorbed: section 3.3.9 in the following paper: http://ec.europa.eu/health/ph_risk/committees/04_sccp/docs/sccp_o_058.pdf So...what else do the seller of GH3 say that isn’t true, is what I wonder. GH3 is very expensive, I wouldn’t buy it without doing some independent reading. The things GH3 turns into, PABA and choline, are much cheaper to buy.   [End]
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Glycerin doesn't feed candida. I found a study showing the sweeteners that candida can digest, and it showed that glycerin isn't digested by candida. Can't find study right now unfortunately.   [End]
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Type the word threelac into the search box near the top of this candida forum page. You will get 2377 messages about threelac. :-)   [End]
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A common herb, Gymnema Sylvestre, has been proven to block the hypha formation of candida in a university run study, and the same researchers found that the herb converted candida biofilm back to treatable yeast cells. Gymnema is far more affordable and available than undecelynic acid (SF722) is. Here is the study:   [End]
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”Finding all messages by one user”, a tool that has worked perfectly on curezone for years, suddenly does not work. It brings up posts by many other users instead.   [End]
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I make it myself; I’ve never seen it in stores other than with other flours mixed into the ingredients list, and with yeasts added, which I cannot eat.   [End]
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This Candida forum is a complete mess. The layout changed in the past 6 months making threads clump together. And when I reply to a message, the reply takes me to all the other forums that the original poster had also posted his/her message to.   [End]
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ISOCORT IS NOT THYROID! IT IS AN ADRENAL HORMONE! Shees people, get your facts straight! Isocort has cortisol, which your body makes with your adrenal glands. Not the thyroid glands.   [End]
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Okra pepsin did not work for me, my constipation problem was the same on it. And I’m not sensitive to lactose, I can leave lactose out of my diet and not get any change, good or bad. Some other things that can cause the constipation (also called slow motility) in candida people is an incorrect ratio of other bacteria in the gut. Candida itself often causes diarrhea, but if people also have too much of certain kinds of bacteria (not candida) in addition to their candida problem, they may get constipation in that way. Glad you find it helpful for you though.   [End]
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I’ve always been told it’s just excess of the one or two of the B vitamins that are yellow in color. Look at the capsule/tablet, it is yellow inside. On a separate subject, whether or not the pee becomes yellow, b vitamins can be used by yeast/candida living in your body. So, taking b vitamins does unfortunately help the candida somewhat to thrive. My answer has been to use B vitamins topically (mix with drops of water and rub onto skin). I read a study somewhere showing that they do get into the blood this way. This bypasses the digestive system.   [End]
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The B vitamins I use on skin, that give me personally a quick energy boost (and that is how I know they do get into blood from skin, although I read some study somewhere saying that as well) are in this product, although I’ve used another brand and it worked too: http://www.swansonvitamins.com/swanson-ultra-activated-b-complex-high-bioavailability-60-veg-caps I look for those that have: the methyl form of B12 (methylcobalamin) the methyl form of folate (which is better than folic acid) And don’t get me started on these forms of B12 and folate, that is a subject for that othe ...
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I suppose if the candida is systemic, then yes the vits/mins in your blood would also feed the candida...but we need some ourselves too. I figure this topical method is better than putting these particular vitamins and minerals into the gut, where the worse problems are with candida. A compromise, I guess it is. Sublingual is supposed to be faster than applying these vitamins to the skin, but I have no patience for leaving things sitting in my mouth for long. I’ve heard that sublingual absorption does take awhile (half hour for a lot of absorption, or something like that), and I’d ra ...
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You’re welcome. The forum link I sent you has a section about B12 that discusses different forms of B12 being better or worse, it might be useful. One more thing, I experiment with using vitamins and minerals on my skin (”topically”) and am reading that some of them absorb into the blood that way, thus avoiding feeding the candida in our guts. Only some vitamins seem to work this way though - the B vitamins do work for me this way. I can tell because certain single B vitamins give me energy shortly after taking, and I get that same soon energy in the same amount of time if I use th ...
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Hi Studiotea, If you don’t want to name the doctor that’s ok; I can’t travel anyway (I live in the US). Some websites say it can take 10 days - 2 weeks to get die-off symptoms, even if your protocol is killing candida well, and some say that die-off symptoms can come sooner. I do think that lactoferrin would be good, to escort any iron in your food into your blood, and keep it away from candida in your gut. But I still would not take any supplemental iron during your plan, or eat much high-iron food during your plan. As for the doses listed in the study, from the quick rea ...
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During these days that you have been taking doxy, diflucan, nystatin, and probiotics, have you had any new symptoms? symptoms that could be ”die off”...or could be something else, but have you had any new symptoms at all come up during this time, that were not there before you started taking all these things? Based on your message, I found the study and read the summary of the study report. The part about iron means: Don’t take any iron or eat high-iron foods while on this program, because iron weakened the synergistic effect of doxy and diflucan against the candida. In other word ...
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Try resistant starch #3; there’s some long discussions about bifidobacteria attaching to this special kind of starch, and being carried by the resistant starch #3 down into the middle gut and lower gut, where the bifidos do the most good. This kind of starch is not the same as other PREbiotics. A thread that got me started reading about this: http://forums.phoenixrising.me/index.php?threads/the-resistant-starch-challenge-is-it-the-key-weve-been-looking-for.26976/   [End]
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What does this have to do with a forum for human candida sufferers? Is it now turning into some other kind of forum?   [End]
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Thanks; it seems some people make progress but others don’t; it depends on other factors. Someone in an earlier post said that if you have any infection (including candida), or have food sensitivities that haven’t been addressed, NB won’t do as much. My entire health life has been ”this won’t work if you don’t fix candida and avoid all the foods you are sensitive to at the same time”. People with a long list of food sensitivities like me need other options, unfortunately. If I avoided all of the long list of foods on my list, I’d never leave the house. I do the best I can, b ...
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Be aware that parasites in animals are documented to be cured without mineral changes in the animal’s intake. So, why would this be different in humans? For example, horses (owners of expensive race horses have entire websites documenting results of antiparasite products), and even the common housecat. When a housecat gets tapeworms, the usual medicine given in the US in praziquantel, and the result in 24 hours is no more tape worm eggs on the cat’s overnight sleeping bed, which, before the medicine, had been visible every morning. Yet the cat’s diet did not change - no changes in ...
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Wired, please use the correct terms, otherwise it can confuse people - I think the word you meant was ”agonists” not ”antagonists”. Agonists of GABA will artificially raise GABA. Antagonists would lower GABA, and the items you mentioned up there seem to raise GABA, they don’t (that I know) lower GABA. Your point is great, I just think that the point gets a little lost if some readers don’t realize the word meant there.   [End]
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Progesterone cream is useless and risky if you are not LOW in it! I’m so tired of hearing this pushed at us from so many books and websites. Too much progesterone leads to awful symptoms, I have been there, and no, the body does NOT always convert it to other things. Shees.   [End]
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I agree, taking my antifungals before the meal allows me to have somewhat more carbs at that meal and get away with it, without bloating. It is a useful tool in our little toolboxes!   [End]
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Godhelp, you are doing what you accuse others of. This is an advice forum. That is what the person you are accusing was doing, giving advice. And so are you. Just because advice sometimes comes from someone other than yourself doesn’t make it wrong.   [End]
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Have other people noticed a sad lack of progress by many people on Nutritional Balancing? There seem to be other health issues that many posters on this forum face, that maybe are not being addressed by Nutritional Balancing... If it is working for some people, great - but I wondered if, anecdotally, any of you know others who have dropped out due to lack of progress.   [End]
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The above post is an ADVERTISEMENT to SELL their product.   [End]
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The description of this protocol as ”It may take one or two months before significant reduction of yeast-related symptoms is achieved.” doesn’t get me very excited about trying it - that long for even any reduction in SYMPTOMS? Even plain old caprylic acid gives symptomatic relief in a day or two, but it doesn’t cure the problem enough to where we can have a reasonably normal diet and stop the caprylic acid. So the fact that this flax oil/special form of NAC protocol, based on the old Wondro remedy, doesnt even give symptomatic relief before a month or two...well it’s hard to get jaz ...
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EDTA absorbs well in the rectum, and if done at home is much less expensive than IVs are. Lots of companies sell EDTA suppositories, which deliver the EDTA into the rectum, and from there into the blood. The suppositories are overpriced (although not as expensive as IVs are), and a way to make the process even less expensive, is simply to buy EDTA on any major supplement selling website, open up the capsule and put it into a little water, and put that into an enema bottle to be put into the rectum. Another thread: http://curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=2138619#i   [End]
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A much belated Update: the cheap, easy to get form of EDTA is NOT caustic to skin. I bought some Calcium Disodium EDTA from Iherb, various companies bottle it and you get it for cheap at various big online supplement selling websites (Iherb, Vitacost, etc). I mixed a capsule full into about a quarter cup of water, put into an enema bottle, and into the rectum it went. No burning whatsoever. No side effects at all. I’m going to try it long term to reduce calcium deposits in my arteries. some sites selling other forms of EDTA argue that the Calcium Disodium EDTA form ”won’t remove ...
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But of course the highly paid scientists doing this study have no idea what to do about this information - unless someone knows how to reduce this lectin in the body.   [End]
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A few years ago I read a message by someone who said Carnosine made his candida grow like wildfire. I’ve avoided it since then. He did not have any theory as to why it did this.   [End]
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But Dvorge, you stopped taking S. Boulardii according to your December 2013 post, where you described a program that you said finally worked for you, and that program did not use S Boulardii. So just to clarify for readers, S Boulardii may not help everyone. Also, those who have an actual allergy to yeasts, in addition to a candida infection, will get worse on S Boulardii because it is a yeast and will set of that person’s allergic reactions.   [End]
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I hope readers can ignore the rude, close minded post directly before this one. Calling all other posts ”nonsense” is that person’s standard thought process.   [End]
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An in depth forum on ME and CFS is at Phoenix Rising (link below). The people posting there tend to be very scientific in their approach, and there are detailed ideas on methylation, gut pathogens, genetic issues, mercury, etc. http://forums.phoenixrising.me/index.php   [End]
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There is much updated information on the subject of resistant starch. The gums and brand you listed, H (I can’t spell your user name) are very different from a type of starch called resistant starch, found in only a few foods. Resistant starch can help those who cannot use ordinary soluble fibers, (like me). Updated info is here: http://curezone.org/forums/am.asp?i=2132517   [End]
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Seriphos, and also ordinary phosphatidylserine, can in some people cause elevated norepinephrine, which makes a person jittery and unable to sleep. It’s a genetic thing where some people’s liver processes handle it differently. A good forum to read about that is here, you can do a search there for the word ”phosphatidylserine” to find posts of people who have the same problem with it: (some people on that forum handle this supplement just fine, but others have problems with it) http://forums.phoenixrising.me/index.php?forums/detox-methylation-b12-glutathione-chelation.6/   [End]
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I’ve read some of you posts over the years Angel - happy that you are finding some answers. Just a word of caution on one of the things you are taking though, alpha lipoic acid (ALA) can move mercury around in your body if taken incorrectly, a worry for anyone who has mercury amalgam (metal ”silver colored”) fillings in their teeth. It’s really a bigger subject than I can do justice to, but wanted to at least alert you to it. The MTHFR subject is interesting, I’ve been bumping into it in other reading and plan on learning more. keep us updated if you can.   [End]
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Dvorge, in one of the posts on this thread, you say you tolerate s boulardii well, so are you taking it? Have you made any progress? If you are not taking it, why not?   [End]
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Nice, but we need stories about candida. I have yet to see a story of someone who cured their candida completely, using probiotics or cultured foods. Most people I talk to who have serious candida problems do NOT have common other illnesses, never even get the flu or colds. I work in a health food store, and dozens of people with candida problems come in every month. Just about none of them get colds/flus (they tell me this), and none of them have cancer. Yet these more common illnesses are what we hear about in mainstream media. And of course, cancer we see written up a lot - an ...
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Every state has silly laws about what you must do in order to sell food to the public. Special kitchens, etc. Big hurdle there.   [End]
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Molybdenum may chelate copper (or, may remove copper from the body in some way). I’ve seen hints/arguements that it does and that it doesn’t. And, copper is needed for healthy cartilage in the body. Most people (but not all) have too much copper and would want to lose some of it, but maybe you don’t have enough copper. Or to open a bigger subject, google biounavailable copper. Then it gets really complex.   [End]
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You’ll never get a consensus on this. It’s been debated back and forth on this forum for years and years, and it ends up fueling some very mean posts from certain people. Just so you aren’t surprised if it happens.   [End]
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No, actually Jerusalem artichokes are not the resistant starch. They are high in inulin and oligofructose instead, which are very different from resistant starch. The key ingredient I read about is a certain kind of resistant starch called resistant starch #2, and it is NOT a fiber actually. The wikipedia page on resistant starch has a short description. I think to avoid confusing people, it’s best to call it resistant starch, not fiber, because it works differently and isn’t a fiber. And it helps some people for whom fiber did not help. Here’s 2 quotes (and then the link I got it f ...
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And about the psyllium that I would leave out of the mix, I’d leave that out just because for me personally, psyllium is a problem. I’m sure many other people could leave it in the recipe. But the main point of this new topic is the resistant starch, which again, works much differently than any fiber, differently than psyllium.   [End]
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I stumbled on the following link. If you suspect you have a SIBO problem in addition to or instead of candida, maybe this link is useful. It talks about using a special resistant starch in your diet, it lasts down into the lower gut to feed probiotics there, and the theory is that it may even drag gut bugs out of the upper gut where there are too many, into the lower gut where they are more appropriate. I have no idea if this works, but the special kind of starch is certainly cheap enough to buy: it must say unmodified potato starch (NOT flour), and must be eaten UNcooked to work. ...
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Resistant starch resists digestion by you and lasts into the lower gut, to feed your good bacteria there. I don’t want to get into a debate about it, just wanted to post a link to a forum where people are methodically trying resistant starch in their diets and posting results. The forum happens to be one for low carb people BUT the thread I’m posting is a discussion amongst people who are on varied diets, not just low carb people. It’s really a nice mix of input on the thread: ***The starch they refer to MUST be a special kind and MUST be eaten uncooked in order to be resistant s ...
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A different forum that deals in EXACTLY this is the methylation forum on Phoenix Rising. There, people discuss methylB12, methylation, and important: tense muscles that can especially kick in when you are improving your methylation -- they say there that it is a temporary increase in your body’s need for potassium: http://forums.phoenixrising.me/index.php?forums/detox-methylation-b12-glutathione-chelation.6/   [End]
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Thank you for your straightforward post, Candida911. Reports like this, in list form, are helpful to others. I look forward to reading about what did work for you when you have time to write it up.   [End]
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When you wrote this post you wrote that you’d only been on this germanium plan for a couple of weeks but felt that it was working. Now that a few months have passed, I haven’t seen a follow up on whether this product ”cured” you? How are you doing now? Are you still taking this product and are you still having to follow a strict diet?   [End]
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That site is about the Specific Carbohydrate Diet (SCD). I tried it diligently once, it did not help any of my candida symptoms. I don’t think those two guys pictured on that website have any idea what a real candida problem is (although their diet may work for other problems).   [End]
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I think you mean ”fluconazole”. I’ve heard of people buying the products labeled for animals, and using them. Have not tried it myself though.   [End]
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I only know that when I’m having other candida symptoms flare up, I usually, but not always, also have flare ups with poor circulation in my legs. But not always, so I’m not sure of the connection. A correction, to keep visitors to your post from being confused: candida is a yeast, it is not a bacteria -- the products that your son is taking are probably antifungals, not antibacterials (you had first used one name and then the other, but they aren’t the same ”bug”).   [End]
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How resourceful - what a good way to communicate what you’ve done and the results. I don’t see the links to the rest of the videos, am I missing them?   [End]
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Nopal juice is what the above posting is discussing. Sold by various manufacturers. I haven’t tried it, just clarifying the above post, since the name of the product wasn’t mentioned this specifically.   [End]
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Why does the ”headache & migraines cures & alternatives support forum” not appear in the forum list? I am talking about the following forum list, which is supposed to list ALL forums that exist in curezone, no matter how often they have activity: http://curezone.com/forums/a.asp?q=0 I’m sitting here looking at the page titled ”headache & migraines cures & alternatives support forum”. We had to do a key word search to find it, it’s not on the list of forums.   [End]
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Actually the disregard for spelling feels uncomfortable when it’s so much of the post; some people take that to mean the writer doesn’t respect the reader’s time to even bother trying to spell anything correctly. Just saying, that’s how some people may react negatively to how the post was written. On another subject, I hope you find some useful information in these forums despite the extreme health protocols that some people write about - I agree that one needs to filter through posts to find those written with the approach one believes in. There are many completely different health a ...
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Glutamine is controversial for people with candida, some say it feeds candida. I can’t find the best study right now, that i’ve seen in the past, but here’s this page as a start. Online searches for ”albicans” and ”glutamine” in the same search box bring up some info elsewhere. http://pathway.candidagenome.org/CALBI/NEW-IMAGE?object=GLUTAMINE-DEG&detail-level=2   [End]
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That site has two separate pages on resistant starch and brain fog, and does not draw a link between eating resistant starch somehow helping brain fog. He talks about resistant starch being helpful in other health issues (weight loss, for example), but I do not see where it says that it does anything for brain fog.   [End]
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LDN stands for ”Low Dose Naltrexone” (some folks may not know that; so thought I’d put that here)   [End]
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His point of the 10 day cream only diet is short term curative, for a single purpose, I don’t think he is saying ”cream only forever”. I believe he means that after the 10 days is over, you do add carbs at other times of day, and other types of fats, and certain other healthy foods. Your general health guidelines are great but during the 10 days the original poster is talking about for most of his first post, his priority seems to be getting rid of the candida, then after the 10 days is over he seems to incorporate a more well-rounded diet (but keeping fats and certain carbs, not sur ...
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Thank you for posting an alternative idea that has worked for you. It’s refreshing to see someone try something different than the usual stuff on this forum, and post results. Can you clarify the sentence ”i eat no carb fruits with cream” -- I’m not sure I have ever heard of a ”no carb fruit”? Or did you mean do not eat any fruit with the cream (which fits better with the later statement about keeping carbs and fats separated by hours).   [End]
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Histidine and zinc helped IBS - a user’s experience: (I found this interesting story on IBSTales.com Maybe it will help people who have diarrhea predominant IBS. The person later stressed that it is important to try it withOUT vitamin B6, as vitamin B6 changes what histidine does in the body.) ”I began reading scientific articles and tried to sort out anything that might give me clues. I did find out that I have abnormally high levels of prostaglandin E1 (PGE1)... I had read that a cofactor in the production of PGE1 is zinc. I theorized that if I could get my zinc levels down maybe ...
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WHY is that post not an ”R” recommended mssg? It’s terrific! Thank your for bringing it to our attention. I wonder why the moderator of this candida forum, whoever it is, did not make that post an ”R” post. The ”R” posts are visible via the links at the top of the candida forum page, but sadly, that very positive and useful post is not one of them. Anyway, I hope people find it.   [End]
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Cilantro is to be avoided in Cutler chelation. This page that I’m reading the op’s post is the Cutler chelation page, and really, people need to READ the Cutler book before posting randomly on this page, lest we lead people astray - Cutler strictly states NOT to use cilantro.   [End]
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I googled a bit, and found the following citation that says that fluconazole also impairs vacuolar acidification, like that drug in the Johns Hopkins study that you found, Sans Sucre. Wondering what that Johns Hopkins study drug might be, I ran across the following citation -- it says something about synergy between azoles and amiodarone against candida, and amiodarone is a drug used to treat arrhythmia. I wonder if the mystery drug in the Johns Hopkins study is amiodarone. Maybe someday they’ll come up with a version of it that doesn’t mess with healthy hearts, and only messes with ...
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Re...B vitamins make my gut worse. Just a thought. your multivitamin has B’s in it. Controversial, I know, but I only take B vitamins sublingually now, and spit out the saliva instead to avoid swallowing them. I’m sure people on this board will not agree with this, but there it is. I sympathize with your situation - have only been in your situation a few times, and not at all in the past few years. I hope you figure out what is causing it for you.   [End]
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Here are my experiences with them: Magnesium I do solely as transdermal liquids currently. I buy magnesium chloride flakes and mix them with water, then rub on daily on my abdomen. Seems to keep crampy muscles at bay, so I believe it gets in the blood when applied to the skin, plus have read lots of users saying it helps them, so seems to help more people than not. Zinc and copper: I’m doing both of these currently as transdermal liquids. I do both due to my mineral analysis, which is another subject. If I rub on copper and not zinc, by the next day I seem to get depressed - this ...
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I first read about that type of thing 15 years ago, and the story I read then was already 10 or more years old. But will doctors acknowledge that candida can overgrow in the digestive tract? Nope! Doctors are useless, we could shove that article in front of their noses and they still stay stuck in what the AMA ”teaches” them.   [End]
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How about cooked quinoa or cooked amaranth? Can be eaten as a hot cereal. I don’t know if they are high in folate though. I swear by these for a filling breakfast. Add a tiny bit of any fat you can handle (if there are any you can handle, and do try tiny bits of various types, as I really believe people really do need a little fat in the long run) to make the cereal keep you going even longer. If you just can’t handle any fat added at all, the cereal is still pretty darn filling. Season with any cooking spice, like ginger powder (just a dash it gets pretty strong), or a little cinnami ...
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Did you ever have your estrogen lab tested? (there are saliva tests and blood tests). So many of us have read ”the book” on estrogen but it isn’t always high in everyone with these health problems. Just wondered if in your case you had confirmed that it really was high. In my case it wasn’t.   [End]
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You say you are cured, yet according to the following recent post you say you still take terpentine. Are you saying your experience is that you must continue to take terpentine to keep symptoms at bay? http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=2102029#i   [End]
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On the home page for curezone, near the top left in the blue bar, is the word ”support forums”, and directly beneath it is the word ”All”. Click on that word ”All” and you will then see an alphabetic list of all forums (not just those that have had posts done in the past whatever number of minutes) Then on that alphabetic list of forums, look for the ”ask curezone” forum. Or choose another forum on that list that fits the nature of your symptoms. The Ask Curezone forum is a good start if you are not sure.   [End]
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Actually, you are wrong, other methods do cure some people This woman used natural antifungals and the diet and cured herself in about 3 months: The Karen Tripp page: http://candidarecovery.com/   [End]
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For a summary of adrenal stress, there’s a book on Amazon called ”adrenal fatigue: the 21st century...” But also, I’ve read other people getting palpitations when taking an antifungal that is strong enough to suddenly kill off lots of candida at the same time. Of course, palpitations can be some other reason, but this one reason is a known cause (just don’t expect your doctor to understand or believe it.) If that is the cause for you, if you back off a bit on that antifungal and process with it more slowly, you may be able to kill off enough candida to not have those particular ”die o ...
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I don’t understand this sentence: ” His intolerances went through the roof which meant I could not treat him with natural antifungals, at the same time as giving him the probiotic which was Kiki soil based one the doctor doubled up his dose of calcium citrate and it burned his insides badly enough to need omeprazole and then ranitidine of which I have had terrible trouble getting him weaned from. ” You mentioned that the soil based org. probiotic caused the problems, but then this sentence talks about another probiotic, is it (kiki) the one that caused the problem?   [End]
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Use the search box for this forum. I didn’t try your groin/skin rash question, but did enter colonoscopy and then endoscopy, got many posts about this topic in this forum. Like: http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1041352#i http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=806608#i http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1796978#i   [End]
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If fiber, magnesium, and cleanses don’t work for you, try it! This is the first thing that has consistently worked for me that wasn’t stimulant lax’s. See above post for my original post please.   [End]
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If anyone wants to try it, it sounds easy (the message I just posted about the 2 specific B vitamins in a low dose). I cannot be the guinea pig for it today because I’m having a day of plenty of energy! But the next fatigued day I have, I’ll be happy to try this out and report what happens. It sounds too simple, but we’ll see.   [End]
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Choline as the only supplement won’t always be enough to raise many people’s acetylcholine, because acetylcholine depends on several other precursers. In myself, taking choline citrate or phosphatidylcholine never helped my constipation. So despite the fact that phosphatidylcholine is a nice helper for your liver, it was no help with my constipation. I’ll put a link here to a page with many precursers for acetylcholine listed - the page is focused on memory/brain support as one role of acetylcholine, but broader definitions of acetylcholine on other sites show that it helps gut motili ...
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Can’t believe nobody in this forum mentions acetylcholine in relation to constipation. I run into mentions of it in many other places, for example: ”I’ve had good luck in helping to relieve constipation by taking some cholinergic supplements (cholinergic means aiding acetylcholine).” That person said they take Huperzine-A and Galantamine, which are both supplements you can buy at ordinary vitamin websites, along with some choline, Vitamin C, and Vitamin B-5. ”Overall result was improved motility throughout the gastro tract,...and more frequent elimination. I had to play with the dos ...
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Pantethine is sold under non-brand names too. It doesn’t have to say ”cholesteril” on the label, that’s just a branded name. As long as you don’t confuse a bottle labeled ”pantethine” with a bottle labeled ”pantothenic acid” (which is a less well-absorbed form) -- other brands that say exactly ”pantethine” are fine, in my opinion. Just trying to give folks some price compare options.   [End]
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I just bumped into an interesting post on another forum, where someone uses two specific B vitamins (and one is a special form of it instead of the more common form), together, and gets lasting relief from adrenal fatigue. The person seems to have researched the functions of those two b vitamins a bit, and the story sounded interesting, so thought I’d share it on curezone. This would be for the type of adrenal fatigue that involves too-low cortisol for much of the day. The gist of it is: in the morning, take about 1/5 of each capsule of the following: the b vitamin called PABA, an ...
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Gene test sounds expensive? The saliva test we used was through ZRT lab, and the nurse practitioner who signed off on my getting it said she uses that lab and one other lab fairly often. The test was less than $100.   [End]
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Some have progesterone dominance and need more estrogen though (I did). There are low cost saliva tests that answer which it is, and I stumbled around using the (awful for me) progesterone cream before I thought of getting the saliva test. Glandulars supporting adrenals I would think might be useful for both groups? But do be careful about jumping into taking herbs that reduce estrogen, or jumping into using progesterone cream, if you haven’t had a test yet.   [End]
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Please don’t assume Estrogen Dominance! That malady was written up in a couple of natural health books in the last few decades, and the idea gets so automatically assumed to be the case in many discussions online, that many women just look a handful of symptom lists and assume they have estrogen dominance. Don’t! A saliva test is simple, not expensive, and can tell you if you have it or not, and the symptom lists just are not accurate - those lists can describe many other maladies instead. I thought I had estro dominance 15 years or so ago, started taking things that those books des ...
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Thanks for the quote - that does give me hope for edta treating the lower gut. What was your experience like when you tried edta? Any die-off or other symptoms arise when you tried it? and did you swallow it as a capsule, or how did you try it?   [End]
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Good luck dvjorge! EDTA has been on my mind recently again, coincendentally. It actually KILLS candida, not just reduces the biofilm, actually kills it: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11077392 Beyond that, my impression of it overlaps a lot with yours: It chelates some minerals out of the body, including copper Copper imbalances are often part of the candida problem (but people could visit the Andy Cutler Chelation forum and the Nutritional Balancing AF forum to get two very different views on how to test for it and what to do about it) It prevents or maybe even r ...
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Wilson on female hormones and their effect on at least a few minerals: http://drlwilson.com/articles/PMS.htm   [End]
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Vitamin K2 moves calcium to where it should be in many cases, apparently. And vitamin k2, although created for us by flora in our guts, can be deficient for those with digestive imbalance and thus gut flora imbalances. here’s just one link, there are others: (the link doesn’t sell anything that I can see). I’ve used K2 for years, ”in case”. Haven’t had bone spurs, just decided to take it for prevention. http://www.newswithviews.com/Howenstine/james59.htm   [End]
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Rude language does not improve posts. It reduces credibility, no matter what is being said. Consider it.   [End]
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Cutler’s program is not intended for weight loss, and is not a cureall for issues caused by the person’s other choices as far as diet and supplements. That practitioner you saw who was overweight and had joint problems could have a bad diet or other issues, and yet be free of toxic metals due to Cutler’s protocol - perhaps, so please don’t discard an entire approach due to symptoms you see in someone that can easily be caused by other problems.   [End]
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#5043: what DO you take? Any supplements at all?   [End]
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This pdf document on the Trace Elements Lab site mentions odor (they use the spelling ”odour”) The paragraph says ”Classical signs of magnesium deficiency are ... general body odour. (Excessive odour of the feet is peculiar to zinc deficiency.)” http://www.traceelements.com/Docs/The%20Nutritional%20Relationships%20of%20Magnesium.pdf Maybe a magnesium issue? I just happened to have run across that document today.   [End]
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Dvorge what about this one? This was someone who posted thanking you for your for help, who got cured! They did use nystatin, which is a prescription though, maybe that’s why you say you haven’t seen anyone cured using only natural products. But let’s not think that means there are no cures at all! Also see my other posts about Karen Tripp, and the one right after that. http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=2095196#i   [End]
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Also another one here, he put his protocol for FREE on another website (the book he’s writing is the same thing, but it’s unclear if he’ll remove the free website after the book is published, or not) https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B8GpBF_xWPFYN0ZPaUpiRzRZN3c/edit The free site with the protocol: https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B8GpBF_xWPFYN0ZPaUpiRzRZN3c/edit   [End]
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What about Karen Tripp? She never posted on Curezone, but she has a public website with her story on how she beat candida. She did n’t use any prescriptions, only natural ingredients, and the diet. This is the link. She doesn’t sell anything. http://candidarecovery.com/   [End]
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Wilson is incorrect: some magnesium oils are not oxide. I have a magnesium oil that is magnesium chloride. I wish Wilson wouldn’t try to paint subjects with such a broad brush, he tends to do that at times. Saying ”all” of a form of product is X molecule...well in this case it’s simply not true.   [End]
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It’s odd that you don’t provide your name. It doesn’t seem to be on your website either (http://wholesomewellbeing.com). Although in fairness, the site does say it is being reconstructed. May we ask what your name is? To consider you as a practitioner.   [End]
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Lets not discard the entire idea or that entire list just because there are a few questionable things on it. Some people believe plain, whole grain like barley, in moderation after someone has been healed to a certain point, is an approproiate food to reintroduce. And as for club soda, where I live the only ingredients in club soda are water and bubbles, no sugar or carbs of any kind.   [End]
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That is one of the problems we all have... there aren’t many testimonies of cured people. Here are some threads about this, and also a link of someone elsewhere who did say they were cured (Karen Tripp) Please note that the post from some named ”Bee” is by someone who admits elsewhere that she still needs to follow a caveman type diet to stay well, which most folks believe means she never did get back to normally being able to eat healthy carbs. But the Karen Tripp story is inspiring. http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1078279#i http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=277117#i ...
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Here’s a quote from someone else who tried it (not me, although I have it on my ”might try” list). The following quote is from a page about borax on the site Earthclinic.com (similar to Curezone): ”did an enema twice in one night just to make sure I got some results, the 1st time I did 1tsp borax & the second time (that same night) I did a one tsp baking soda ennema. The toilet results where pretty good, but I have a slow digestive system so by the next day I was seeing even better results from that night’s enema. I took a day off ...and on the third night I did the enema again, b ...
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Problems with using a word like ”best” anticandida ingredient: some of them kill candida allright and also kill some good bacteria...so it’s a balancing act on how to handle it, I believe. And hardly anyone can agree on which ones kill good bacteria and which don’t. (there’s a few posts about that in the R Recommended messages section at top of this candida forum) Also, some anticandida ingredients are strong enough that if some people start right out with a fairly large dose, they get awful die off symptoms, so maybe they would have been better off with a less strong ingredient at f ...
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Try licorice root (not the candy, the herbal root), for that ulcer. Here’s just one link about it, there are other sites that talk about it too. if you scroll way down on the page of the following link, you’ll see: ”In one study, licorice root fluid extract was used to treat 100 patients with stomach ulcers for 6 weeks. Ninety percent of the patients improved, with ulcers completely disappearing in 22 of the patients.” http://www.naturalnews.com/024440_licorice_ulcers_inflammation.html   [End]
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It is? That would be good for the original poster on this thread. I read in Dr. Crook’s old candida book that all of the azoles get absorbed into blood and don’t target the lower gut very well, but itraconazole wasn’t invented yet when Dr. Crook wrote his book in the 1980s, so maybe this azole is an exception.   [End]
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Was your sensitivity test on stool or blood? (I guess I’m asking, do you think your infection is only in your intestinal tract, or do you think it is also in your blood) Because it seems unclear if itraconazole lasts all the way down to the lower gut... if you are mostly concerned with your gut and not worried about anything in your blood, the itraconazole wouldn’t target the lower part of your gut if it gets absorbed into the bloodstream fairly high up in the gut. If anyone decides itra does not last into the lower gut (and again, I’m not sure), I wonder if one way around this is t ...
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In other words, if people take ibuprofen along with the azole prescription, the azole prescription is much more likely to work. (for those who don’t want to read the study) Thank you, that was a good study to post :-)   [End]
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um...punctuation please. We cannot tell what you are asking.   [End]
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Now and then I take one or at most two capsules of it, with a meal. Logically, chitosan may do more to weaken candida if taken on an empty stomach, but I haven’t tried that yet. I have not noticed anything, good or bad, from taking it with food.   [End]
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Try lactoferrin with your iron supps. Lactoferrin is a supplement that makes iron better absorbed into your blood, leaving less in your lower gut for the bad bugs to eat. I’m paraphrasing it, but that is the general idea of how lactoferrin supplements can help. Just a thought.   [End]
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Here you go, the experiment using other compounds: http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=757185#i   [End]
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Taking things to fix candida problems, and changing diet to fix candida problems, is what these forums are. I didn’t imply that the things that did not work for me were in any way ”your fault”. Not sure why you seemed to think so. And no, stress has not correlated with my constipation, I get it sometimes when life is easy, and don’t get it sometimes when life is hard, and vice versa. People like me who cannot use the usual methods to relieve the problem need to band together, we have nobody else to turn to. I simply posted here so others in my shoes will not feel alone.   [End]
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Before jumping to the solutions that work for ”everyone”, these do not work for me and I must ask for OTHER ideas. Constipation, aggravated by any slight change in diet (whether improving diet by removing candida causing foods or unimproving diet by adding back in candida causing foods), any stress, and who know what kind of supplements. Things that do NOT work once I have the constipation: Minerals. Yes even magnesium (I’ve tried them all, yes even epsoms), mixed mineral liquids ala ”the candida expert”, etc. Fiber. I refuse to discuss fiber products further, it does not work ...
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Eric, this study says goat milk DOES have beta casein, just like cow’s milk does: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18024728   [End]
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Beneficial bacteria don’t love ”increased pH” though, increased ph means higher ph numbers which is more alkaline. Alkaline, great for your blood, but in your gut, where most beneficial bacteria live, those bacteria will be happier with acid. That’s why ”Acidophilus” is called Acidophilus: the word means ”acid loving” in Latin. Maybe you and I are saying the same thing, I could not tell from your wording. Point is, we wouldn’t want newcomers to get the wrong idea about ph in the gut.   [End]
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