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That ladies out of her mind LOL.    [End]
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I don’t have EC anymore but I went for a food allergy test which came up clean. I went for a food intolerance test and had some issues (eggs + a few other things). When I take protein - the cheap shitty kind on an empty stomach it gives me the sweats, weakness and I’ll puke it all out. If I mix it with fruit in a smoothy there’s no problems. I recently went on a 5000 calorie a day bulk and put on a crazy amount of muscle. If protein shakes are bothering you just try to either make your own in the blender or buy plant protein (it’s expensive tho).   [End]
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Always liked his advice and insights, just wondering if he still helps out on this forum. Let me know, Thanks! -MtL   [End]
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if you’re strong enough to make it past the first few days the rest shouldn’t be as tough. I’d recommend doing a juice fast if you don’t have the mental discipline for an extended water fast or if you find the symptoms unbearable. you can’t break a fast eating what ever you want, from what I’ve read people have actually died from eating steak and potatoes after an extended fast. you cant eat heavy meals you have to break a fast with small amounts of fruit and veggies. hope that helps, sorry if it came off a bit harsh or abrasive but fasting isn’t something to play with or go in half ...
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i love nate cuz he gets the f***ing idea and even went out and learned on his own. rebuild your health through diet and nutrition and exercise. it’s not complicated yet people struggle to accept it czu they’re lazy bastards and unwilling to change or they just want to do it their own way which is flawed then claim it doesn’t work. write down a list of reasons from your heart why you MUST improve your health then start doing it otherwise nothing will change. failure is truly NOT AN OPTION FOR YOU or your life will continue to be shit from this condition. look at that paper which motivates y ...
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This link won’t work anymore once the DNS updates.. couple weeks max so I’m making a backup of everything Nate posted in the comments section. http://www.exfoliativecheilitishelp.com/cure-exfoliative-cheilitis/#comments This is for people questioning the diet - saying it won’t work - or just too pussy to try it or wtvr your excuse....: -- Nate says... Thought I’d post my progress so far, because my lips have definitely been improving. Keep in mind that I haven’t healed 100% yet, I just wanted to share what I’ve been doing. I started on June 23rd, and for the most part I ...
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Actually, yes, there were two people who were helped by my protocol: 1) some guy on facebook saw very good improvements almost a complete stop in peeling. he followed the entire list of things to do but said he felt it was mainly eating lots of virgin organic coconut oil that helped him most. my facebook profile is down now (all time sinks are gone from my life now. so I can’t give you his name or contact info. 2) nate - from the comments on the site. a college guy, maybe he’s still around here but he actually posted images of his improved lips - he had no more peeling if I rememb ...
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::::DOWNLOAD LINKs FOR PDF FILE:::: Free download from CureZone: http://curezone.com/ig/i.asp?i=71113 From Media Fire http://www.mediafire.com/view/?doynbdqifhv8l38 If you can't open the PDF grab Foxit Reader free.. http://www.foxitsoftware.com/Secure_PDF_Reader/ The website is expired.   [End]
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Sup broheims, it’s been a while ;) http://exfoliativecheilitishelp.com is expiring soon.. just wondering if it’s worth renewing again to keep the site online. Do you guys like the site and think it’s worth keeping up? It’s only $20 to renew for another year but I’m not really motivated to spend time on it anymore. I’m thinking about converting the entire webpage into a PDF document people can save to their computer. That way it can just float around teh interwebs forever and it doesn’t ever have to cross my mind again. Anyway, it’s mainly up to you guys, leave some feedback ...
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Hi, If you decide to try it again all I can suggest is to keep a journal of everything you eat and drink throughout the day and send it to me after a couple of weeks if you see no improvement. That goes for anyone else as well. I can assure you there’s no such thing as luck. In my case it was a very slow process of identifying all the trigger foods then slowly cutting them all out of my diet. For the other people it helped it was simply a matter of following the instructions very closely. ---- ”in regards to a endoscopy and colonoscopy i have had that done recently and the docotr ...
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----------- ”also do you know have completely normal lips like normal person no dryness or anything like that. like do you have full stetchy lips and also what are you thouughts on moisturizing your lips now? for example do you use burts bees wax or something like that every now and then when the weather is bad? thanks” ----------- Yep 100% normal like before I had EC.. no more dryness, no more blood red, inflamed, cracking peeling lips. I don’t moisturize or frequently lick my lips anymore.   [End]
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------- ”mont! congrats on your curing of ec! its absouletely wonderful to know some people have gotton rid of ec. i dont mean to be negative but can you maybe try explain why most people follow your routene theory with no success for example me i did your system for 3 months with no improvenments at all and 98% of people have tried aswell with fail. so i ask why did it work for you and also why did it take such a short period of time with you. i think you said 4 weeks off memory. thanks” ------- TBH I can only say that’s what worked for me. If you look in the comment section you can ...
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----------- ”Also have you continued this strict diet after you were cured? What I mean is do you think that this will come back if you stop this strict diet?” ----------- Yes I still follow it more or less. Not nearly as strict but I still follow it. When I first slowed the peeling cycle if I would eat the wrong thing more than once per day I would get a thin buildup, twice per day medium buildup, etc Now even if I eat nothing but junk for 2-3 days I wont peel.. but I still feel like shit. I’m pretty sure over 5 days of nothing but junk food would start up some kind of peeling aga ...
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sure, here ya go: http://exfoliativecheilitishelp.com   [End]
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------- ”If you could just briefly give an overview of how you got cured that would be great, and also what you thought was the key. For example whether you thought it was diet, leaving them alone etc. thanks.” ------- I can’t seem to write anything briefly. That’s an issue I’m still dealing with lol. Diet is KEYYYYYYYYYYY. See the blog post, there’s no way to simplify it, too much info. sorry. Leaving them alone or peeling it everyday makes absolutely ZERO difference, that I can promise you for sure. I did pull off and bite off the skin whenever possible just to avoid walkin ...
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---------- ”What is your theory why your lips were peeling?” ---------- Well in my case it’s pretty simple. I was eating a horrible diet, over eating junk, drinking and partying too much, smoking too much weed and not getting proper nutrition. I lived this kind of life for years and years. Also my immunity hasn’t been the best since I was young I had problems with asthma, allergies and some other problems so I’ve been more prone to getting sick from the beginning. There’s no way to tell exactly why disease will manifest as peeling lips rather than eczema or psoriasis. As far as I ...
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Just logged in to check my inbox, I needed some info from a msg I got a couple years back (everything was deleted) :( Anyway while I’m here I figure I’ll answer some questions if you guys have any... Still haven’t peeled in well over a year now and no signs of it happening again. My Website in pdf format and my cure: http://curezone.com/ig/i.asp?i=71113   [End]
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the foreskin conspiracy.... wow, this forums hit a new low.   [End]
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obviously this problem is related to your digestive system / nutrient absorption and immune system. you don’t need an overpaid, poorly trained doctor or specialist to tell you that. tell them you want an endoscopy. this is one of the only tests that will find what’s really going on inside your gut since they send a camera down from your throat all the way into the intestines. other than that, don’t bother with them. IMO.   [End]
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”Tacroz Forte Ointment is a topical macrolide immunosuppressant”   lulz. sounds legit!     [End]
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Renewed http://exfoliativecheilitishelp.com for 1 more year even though I was considering just letting it expire. Good luck with the steam cleaning and blow drying treatments. In further curezone news, vaseline, carmex and chapstick all help reduce the peeling cycle! Miracle chapstick cure FTW!! Please forgive my sarcastic enthusiasm. Later.. -MtL   [End]
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Hey everyone -- @fregasedo - yea I had the same buildup. theres no definite way to say exactly how the condition was originally triggered because its impossible to prove without over complicating things. My theory is lowered immunity due to poor diet, unhealthy lifestyle, drinking smoking etc. I got EC in highschool when I was living reckless. Other people might have been born with a weaker immune or digestive system which would explain how some people didn’t abuse their body to get EC, regardless immunity and diet play a huge role in curing this or pretty much ANY condition. yes ...
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Hey all, just I few things I want to add before getting to the questions: -I eat only fruit everyday for breakfast. Then for lunch I eat 3 eggs fried with garlic and onions on 14 grain bread, I eat this EVERYDAY as a replacement for meat. I only eat a very small (deck of cards size) portion of chicken or beef once or twice per week if I even eat any at all. You should stick to eggs everyday in the beginning (fried eggs only). -Organic extra virgin coconut oil is a MUST USE, I can’t stress this enough.. you should be loading up on this stuff. Someone I was chatting with on FB a while ...
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I haven’t been around curezone in very long time and thought I’d return for 7 days to help answer questions since this is the place that helped give me the drive to research and find a cure that worked for me! If your wondering how I cured myself check here, it’s very well documented, I encourage you to read every word on this site including the comments section before asking a question: My Website in pdf format and my cure: http://curezone.com/ig/i.asp?i=71113 -- Read about cure here MtL   [End]
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give Triactol bust serum a shot.. it works for most women.   [End]
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@saplipguy: It was a lot of work my friend, i hope it helps! Supplements: Yes, but only a few I can recommend, they are quite expensive. I personally have taken 0 supplements in close to 8-9 months now. This is like the holy grail of supplements: IntraMax but costs too much $, notice how many superfoods and vitamins, minerals ect it contains. Use any topical creme: Nope, haven’t used topical creme of any kind in over 1 year and counting.. @#128 Sorry it was a problem with my hosting they go down from time to time. everything should be straightened out tho! @#126 yes, this a ...
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Hey guys, sorry I haven’t been around in a while. I see there are some questions. I’m not very active on CureZone anymore so please in the future just leave any comments in this section of the blog: Exfoliative Cheilitis Blog - Leave a Comment Here If you leave me a comment on the blog I get email notifications instantly, it works out better. @when should we work out? A: work out 5-6 days per week but try to be active everyday. @how long should be work out for? A: long enough to break a good sweat but not long enough to cause muscle failure or exhaustion. Try to mainl ...
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Website has been fully completed, this is pretty much all i can offer people as an explanation to how my lips are ok now. this will be my last post on CZ - i’ve offered all I can. good luck to you all, -mtl   [End]
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sorry..long night. Thanks for the correction.   [End]
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Hey everyone, just wanted to announce the release of the site I’ve been working on. I honestly feel this is the answer for most of you, please give it a shot. It’s still a work in progress but I figure its good enough to release at this point. If you have any questions or comments please address me through the blog itself (bottom left is comments button). How to Cure Exfoliative Cheilitis Moderator please don’t remove this link, its important people see this.   [End]
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You need this: The ’Cure’ To Exfoliative Cheilitis and Peeling Lips   [End]
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sorry bro - all kinds of sh1t hit the fan for me recently, everything is back to normal now though. check your PM, website is hours away from completion. cheers.   [End]
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-Natural hygiene (http://wikibin.org/articles/natural-hygiene.html) Natural Hygiene (or Orthopathy) is a branch of the Natural Health Movement that states the human body can and will heal itself, to whatever extent is possible, if the causes of disease are removed and a health-promoting lifestyle is practiced. For serious health concerns, it recommends being under the supervision of a Professional Medical Practitioner. Theories of Natural Hygiene It is characterized by several theories : *That the human body contains the power to heal itself (without medicine). *That disease ex ...
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I was originally going to share this link and information through PM but thought everyone should benefit from reading it. When I first stumbled across natural hygiene a while back I was sooooo happy because EVERYTHING about health finally made perfect sense. Natural hygiene provides a grand overview of how the body is designed to work and how it can heal itself. This is the basis of vibrant health and recovery from disease. IF YOU WANT TO RECOVER FROM EC I HIGHLY SUGGEST YOU START HERE. READ EVERY WORD OF THIS ARTICLE AND YOU WILL HAVE AN IDEA HOW YOU CAN GO ABOUT REVERSING THE ...
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hi badlips, by eating a small portion of eggs, chicken & salmon a few times per week you will have more than enough protein to satisfy your bodies needs. There is protein in just about everything we eat including grains, fruits and vegetables. Protein is ’overhyped’. Your body is able to recycle, create and maintain a large stockpile of protein ready to use at all times that can last for weeks without eating any meat products. 95% of people on a western American diet consume TOO MUCH protein and not enough alkaline water-based foods like fruits & veg. also +1 to what lipshitz said ...
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you are both living basically the same lifestyle and eating the same diet so its no wonder you both got EC. ”Very hard stool that is painful to pass Very fatigued after almost every big meal I eat.” Results of a bad diet.. overeating & lack of water based foods.   [End]
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baby food has no living enzymes which means your body is forced to produce enzymes to digest it. It probably also contains preservatives and stabilizers ect.. Its ok but definitely no substitute for fresh food =D   [End]
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@js88 thanks for helping out bro,, I sent you a PM!   [End]
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thanks js that was an interesting read and was extremely helpful to me! your diet is actually quite a bit different than mine but it sounds like the common link is lots of alkaline, living foods. Many people don’t know that acidic foods are NOT pre-digested like fruits and vegetables which contain living enzymes and natural sugars which can easily be broken down and digested by the body. You are also right about natural sugars found in fruit being extremely vital to good health. Apparently your body can get all necessary sugars from fruit alone! One thing I will add more of in my d ...
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@125280 i swear i didn’t make this thread... you can ask the mods to check the i.p. does sound alot like my own story tho. Btw this is the first time in curezone history that anyone other than myself have said diet had effect on the peeling cycle of their lips! woop woop!! score 1 for diet suckaz @js88 can you give us more information on what you eat throughout the day? Do you eat processed sugar or white flour? Any microwave dinners or that junk? Did you switch your diet over a period of months? Years? Please tell us more about how long it took your EC to improve.   [End]
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hey 643 ;D The protocol will be very strict as to what you can and cannot eat but you will never have you starving yourself or feeling hungry in fact you should feel light, clear-headed, well-nourished and energetic all throughout the day. You will get almost all essential amino acids, vitamins, minerals and living enzymes that keep your body in top shape but MOST OF ALL it DOES NOT provide any of the junk that sets off immune reactions and cause the lips to peel. I’m going to layout the protocol in a way that should be followed 100% to the word with NO modifications to the plan. This m ...
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Looking around this forum is funny.. things haven’t really changed at all. A bunch of new names but it’s really all just the same repetitive circle of over-complicated theories and sloppy guesswork. I’ve been thinking of putting up a website about how simple lifestyle changes can practically ELIMINATE the peeling process altogether and not only make your lips look better but also have you FEELING better as well. Yes, its TRUE THAT DIET DIRECTLY has an impact on your mental health just as much as it does physically! Some of you people are living in the stone age when it comes to wha ...
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Mandy, I think I’m going to be stuck drinking bottled water because thats all I really have access to. I owned a water ionizer but didn’t feel it was worth the money so I returned it 3 months later (after it broke down twice, model - jupiter microlite). I may buy a better one if they drop in price. Wouldn’t having any kind of food or drink (other than water) not be ideal for a water fast? From what I heard any kind of food introduced into the body while fasting will take it out of ”fasting mode” or whatever its called ;P (its been a while since I read about these things, kerotosis o ...
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Great, that’s good to know. Thanks a lot for your help, as far as I remember when I had questions during my first water fast it was you two that helped then as well. In case I never got to thank you both for that, just wanted to tell you it really helped me out!   [End]
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Hi everyone, My first strict water fast went well but I was extremely weak most of the time and very dizzy. I wasn’t able to complete my goal of 30 days, I had to stop at 10 because my supervisors at work didn’t like how I was so weak while driving the forklift lol... Unfortunately 10 days of fasting wasn’t enough to heal me of my health problems (exfoliative cheilitis, skin rashes, occasional pink eye, over acidic stomach, gingivitis.. all seem to be inflammatory, immune & digestive based problems). First water fast was over a year ago. Anyways, I’m currently unemployed and figured ...
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*yawn*,, like I said, I couldn’t care less about you.. I mean.. don Q, Im just pointing out the obvious. Hmm.. seems to be yer first post buddy and its done anonymously, wonder who it is... hmmmmmmm... lol   [End]
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Hey Juno, here’s the protocol I was talking about. If you can follow this perfectly your lips will most likely be in better shape than mine, I haven’t been able to completely stick to this regimen for more than 2-3 days without cheating. I notice a huge difference since I started and my lips looked perfect during those 2-3 days. A surprisingly big step is eating a LEAFY salad for breakfast, it helps a lot. Even when I just loosely follow the protocol it makes a world of difference. Just do what you can and watch what happens..\\ Btw, good luck with everything. Glad to see your working on m ...
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research food combining, you wont have any gas or indigestion if you follow its principles thank me later ;P -MtL   [End]
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Hey all, I’ve said I’m out so many times its starting to lose meaning. Anyways, this time I’m really outta here for good. In the past month and a half my lips have peeled only twice,, although I’m not fully cured my lips look great even while they’re peeling! (I know that doesn’t sound right lol) Basically the amount of skin that peels is very small and hardly noticeable. This has been a significant improvement over how my lips were even 3 months ago.. in fact not only my lips are better I feel better overall. Even though I’m not 100% cured I feel like I am! So anyways,,, I gotta go ...
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”if like me you got e.c from biting or peeling or rubbing with a towel after showers” so yer saying if a healthy person did any of that they would get EC.. a healthy person can bite and pick at their lips but there is no weak skin to come off.. same with the shower.. the skin doesn’t get mushy on a healyh person.. there isn’t anything to whipe off.   [End]
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cured or covered up? ;P   [End]
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Lol,,, Hveragerthi you really hate alkaline water! I bought the machine and have been drinking it for over a month.. I’m better than ever.. I’m still waiting for my heart to stop beating like you were saying b4.. ;D Isn’t staph infection something thats visible on the skin...? I’ve taken many candida supplements with little effect.. candida is the aternative medicine scape goat.. it gets the blame for everything, kinda misleading,. As for the autoimmune thing, you have to wonder whats causing the immune problem. The fact is its probably linked to the digestive system or something.. I ...
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you should try to focus on improving yer lips and other long term goals.. if you keep working on them they will become a reality ;D You should push to fix yer health I agree with Juno, don’t give up man. Diet and exercise are doing wonders for me.. you should try it out, no supplements at all.   [End]
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thats obviously the don q with a new account... lol ;D   [End]
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wow, that was quite possibly the gayest thing I’ve ever read...   [End]
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I guess it is an alkaline diet but its also and elimination diet where I don’t eat anything that makes me feel bad. If you eat fruit too close to your next meal its a bad food combination, the fruit mixing with the other food in your stomach doesn’t get digested properly and actually starts rotting inside of you until its eliminated. That’s one of the things that triggers EC, anything that will irritate the intestines will effect the lips.   [End]
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”What’s your protocol? vegan?” Nope.. check below.. this is taken from a previous post, I added a few things: Wake up, 30-60 mins later eat a VERY LIGHT breakfast of spinach leaf mixed salad with baby lettuce leaves,, eat a nice big bowl of that every morning, try to only put olive oil and grey Sea Salt on it. 15-30 minutes after eating that do some kind of cardio and maybe even calesthetics (push,pull ups), I personally just do jump rope in my apartment because the ceilings are high enough, I got a leather rope with bearings in the handle.. works great. So anyways, do some kind of ...
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Hey A haak,, just wanted to put an apology out there.. very sorry. I kinda lost my temper on you and made a ridiculously angry post haha. Anyways, it wasn’t really your comment that made me that mad.. it was everyone’s comments in general about my improvements that set me off. Hope you understand, sorry I was acting like an immature jack@ss, I just get mad and flip out because instead of TRYING out my diet people say stupid $hit like ”I tried a diet once and it had no effect”. This kinda crap honestly gets me super mad, first off I give MY WORD that this diet is having a VERY positive e ...
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hey Mahi, send yer email address to montrealhomegrown@yahoo.ca, I’ll answer yer questions through e-mail -MtL   [End]
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Cheers kartiks, yer a good guy man.   [End]
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a haak how are you going to say my lips never looked bad, your a complete dumba$$ (IMHO of course), I think your just trying to make excuses because your too $*@ing timid and weak minded to try to cure yourself with lifestyle changes.. you don’t have what it takes. I can post pics of my lips peeling, or when my lips were blood red and under HEAVY inflammation, unfortunately I don’t have pics of when my EC was at its worst but I don’t care because I have nothing to prove to a little prick like you or any other pipsqueek out there who just wants to debate ”if” my lips were bad or not. ASK YO ...
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genius, yer right in a way because all commercial dieting is useless. You have to tell us what kind of diet you were on, you can’t just say every diet is ineffective just because the ONE that you tried doesn’t work lol,. What do you make of the results I’ve been getting? I’m not really on any supplements.. I take bio-active whey protein but thats it. I’m just on a very clean diet + plenty of carido. I’ve gotten to a point with my diet where I know what foods have what effect on my body.. its actually easy to notice just we get used to feeling bad.. you should actually feel good and full ...
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hey Ace, yeah I went to a TCM a month ago.. he said EC is caused by excess acid in the body and spleen dampness ect.. I went for about 4 acupuncture sessions,, maybe 5 and the one I find that helped most was the one that cleared my sinuses.. I was sick at the time so he gave me a different treatment. It helped me feel great because it was like I was finally getting a good amount of oxygen. He was giving me some pills that didn’t help much.. I was on them for a good month or so. At one point I took 5x the recommended dose in one day.. nothing happened at all lol.. not smart I know :P Twi ...
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hey alesiom11, I did a water fast almost a year ago.. towards the end of the fast my lips had improved a lot and weren’t really peeling for about a week as far as I remember. My lips eventually went back to peeling more often ect.. I’m just trying to show people that ALL I’VE DONE is change my diet and started doing lots of excercise and my lips seem to have improved big time. These simple things ARE SHOWING MORE RESULTS THAT WATER FASTING. I haven’t been taking ANY supplements at all in the past 2 weeks, not even a multi-vitamin. My lips have never looked as good as in those pics... yeste ...
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I decided to take a pic and show you guys a comparison.. I’ve said many times my lips look their best after my 1 week water fast.. these are the pics of my lips AFTER fasting::: ----------------------------- ----------------------------- Here are pics taken YESTERDAY NIGHT, my lips have not changed from this in about 5 days, they have only peeled a very very small amount in the past 7 days. My lips still look the exact same as in the pic,, I haven’t used any lotion whatsoever in the last 48 hours, also keep in mind its winter time and usually my lips would be cr ...
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haha, oh man.. this is weak   [End]
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Re: kartiks ~ i pm’d ya as well --- inbox   [End]
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sorry kartiks I have to disagree,,, I was almost in the exact same boat as everyone the only difference is that I KEPT PUSHING HARD TO GET WHAT I WANTED. My lips looked exactly like dhamma’s back when I first got EC. The only reason I made improvements is because I went ballistic and because I am still pushing HARD to get myself cured. The only time I started slacking was when my lips first started looking more normal, I got a bit too comfortable. When my lips looked like shit I was going crazy or ballistic like you said trying everything I could. My mentality is that if I’m going to do ...
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Just an example,,, when CF was trying melatonin or otex everyone was crazy hyped up and wanting to try it, but when something comes around that requires more than popping a pill or using some lotion most if not all the people on this forum are completely unwilling to try. This just kinda makes me question why I even post.. An alkaline diet will help reduce the amount of skin buildup and delay peeling, I’ve experienced this myself yet no ones even remotely interested in trying.. see what I’m saying. What if the cure fro EC is simply 3 months of a very clean diet and doing excercise daily ...
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haha you the man uk ;D I think your partly right about TCM, at least in my case the problem is that my doctor was giving me little pre-made mass produced rabbit turd pills.. I’m sure if he would have taken the time to mix some real herbs it would have been much more effective.   [End]
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yea, that’s it man.. nutrition and exercise are the bare essentials to being healthy.. no one supplement is going to reverse bad health. good info just floats around this forum for a couple days then gets forgotten..I really doubt anyone is going to make use of it.. just a waist of time even writing it haha,.. I think thats one of the reasons I’m sick of this forum,, people complain that their lips are in bad shape yet they don’t do shit about it.. for example I said that eating a 80/20 diet will reduce inflammation and slow the peeling cycle, people don’t seem to give a shit.. this ...
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acid/alkaline food chart: http://www.rense.com/1.mpicons/acidalka.htm   [End]
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This forums gone dead lol, no posts in over 24 hours :P Just wanted to give a quick update and hopefully bring some life back haha I’ve noticed that eating a highly alkaline diet is a key to feeling healthy; it has made my lips much easier to manage IT HAS ALSO REDUCED INFLAMMATION AND IT SLOWS THE PEELING CYCLE!!! The changes where almost immediate, try for yourselves,, you don’t have to go crazy actually weighing and measuring your food 80/20% alkaline/acid.. just work on adding more alkaline foods to your diet and focus on limiting the acidic ones. I’m probably only doing a 6 ...
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Hey AHR, I’m on almost the same diet as you.. I’ve been eating a huge leafy salad about 3x a day.. Its some pre-packaged organic salad thing.. mainly spinach and baby lettuce I think. I started back when don-chi hote brought up alkaline diet. I eat one huge container of it per day + other raw veges, I already notice improvement.. my lips are more often pink then red.. my pupils are RARELY dilated for no reason (they used to be quite often), I also feel lighter and more healthy in general along with no more heartburn. Oh almost forgot.. I’m also taking moreless’ drink at least 2x/day (spoon ...
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we were talking about my water fast from a while back, I haven’t fasted recently, my lips didn’t really peel while I was fasting and they looked great after the 1 week point.. slowly they went back to the same ol’ cycle I’m actually pretty sure it was that fast that stopped my chronic fatigue   [End]
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hey lulu, yeah, fasting wasn’t easy, it took much more willpower than I was expecting, towards the end I felt like a zombie haha, I can’t wait until my next fast though.. it was a very good experience overall. to be honest I’m not all that sure about Iodine though, seems like one of those over hyped supplements. I was on it for a good 3 months and I didn’t feel or see much difference. I guess it works for some though because that forum is always packed. I think I’m going to try the moreless protocol along with drinking 3+ liters of alkalized water/day. I’m going to buy one of the ...
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nice, I’m sure an endoscopy will give us more of an idea what is internally wrong. way to go man   [End]
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GI tract evaluation = endoscopy ?   [End]
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lol   [End]
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well I think you might want to take another look... you might be having trouble seeing things, your telling me you don’t see the word ”medical device” anywhere in this certificate? its even in the document name.. LOL its called ”CertificateofMedicalDevice.pdf” http://enagic.com/products/pdfs3/CertificateofMedicalDevice.pdf Lmao, its signed by the director, safety division pharmaceutical and food safety bureau, ministry of health... what else do you want? HERES MORE THIS EXPLAINS WHATS BEHIND THE CERTIFICATE:: http://www5.cao.go.jp/otodb/english/houseido/hou/lh_02070.h ...
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”You seem to really want to defend Kangen despite all of their misleading claims and false information. Makes me wonder why?” Makes me wonder why as well, I think I’mma stop chatting about this now, I’ve got my answers ;D Peace   [End]
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Yea, I’m feeling the same as Juno,, the TCM could be helping but its probably going to be a long healing process, not something that will happen overnight. Next time I go to my doc I’m talking to him about the sha shen mai dong remedy, I’m going to tell him I want to continue acupuncture along with that treatment.   [End]
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yea i was thinking bubble baths with candles and aromatherapy while listening to Mozart might help me cure myself haha, I was just kidding as well, I haven’t taken a bath since I was about 4 years old but still,,, I guess I’ll try it... its not all that big of an issue..... i guess :P what kind of health problems did the moreless protocol help you overcome if you don’t mind me asking? is your story included on the long list of testimonials? -Mtl   [End]
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Thanks for the info, I usually order supplements off the net, here’s a link to food grade pickling power: http://www.bulkfoods.com/search_results.asp?txtsearchParamCat=1&txtsearchParamType=ALL&txtsearchParamMan=ALL&txtsearchParamVen=ALL&txtFromSearch=fromSearch&txtsearchParamTxt=4330   [End]
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I posted that certificate because it shows approval ”of a medical device” by the government of japan.. that means it underwent testing including some kind of safety study by the government. That website I was joking about you owning was trashing alkalizers.. lol, you aren’t even reading the pages or watching the vids I’m linking are you :P Honestly watch those videos in the first alkaline study post I made.. you’ll be shocked about how this technology is used in japanese hospitals. http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1301040#i hey san, I think I might try the moreless protoco ...
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manufacture a ”MEDICAL DEVICE”.. emphasis on medical.. but yeah, there is a difference   [End]
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Not the answer I was hoping for but you gave me something to think about none the less.. trust me I’m not eager to spend money on some water machine unless it lives up to the hype if that’s the case I would gladly pay 2000 even though I don’t have cash to throw around. I don’t even make that much money in a month just to give you an idea.. Anyways, the bottom line is I just want to be cured.. I guess I’ll try your protocol (baths and everything..) I should have all the kelp, lime powder ect ordered within the next few days.. I’ll wait on the ionizer to see if your protocol will work for ...
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Well,, I’m thinking about it, just because you have so many positive testimonials to back it and everyone here seems so positive. Its honestly refreshing because 90% of curezone is full of people who are scrambling trying different methods without success (me being one of them lol). What is also impressive is that you are a good enough person to help people without asking for money. Its really amazing when someone can come up with a working protocol that can cure all kinds of sickness and disease... but I have some questions. First I should probably explain some of my health history.. w ...
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How does the U.S. rate in world health? According to the United Nations, the U.S. is currently ranked #37 for longevity - right below Cuba. Japan tops the list at #1. (1) While undoubtedly there are many factors contributing to this statistic, what we do know is that the Japanese tend to focus more on prevention; hence, the average Japanese citizen manages to spend only about 1/3 as much on health care as the average American, yet lives 5-7 years longer. (2) Perhaps one of their secrets is something ridiculously simple and yet so important...the water that they drink. Approximate ...
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here’s the certificate to prove they did back it: ”Certificate of Medical Device Marketing Authorization by Ministry of Health, Labour and Welfare, Government of Japan” http://www.enagic.com/archives/category/products/certificates   [End]
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Hmm.. I dunno, this is all seeming a bit over the top for me. The fact is there are sites like consumersreport.com (just an example) which provide reviews on products from the customers themselves. I know from experience that people are very bitchy if they get scammed,, especially out of money,, ESPECIALLY if its in the thousands, some crazy fool would for sure make a website devoted to his story about how a kangen water machine emptied his bank account and ruined his health LOL, or people could post on forums such as this one, or leave a bad review on amazon.com but the fact is there isn’ ...
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hey lulu & chrisb1, I don’t think I ever got a chance to thank you both for guiding me through my first water fast. I only lasted a week, I had to cut it short because supervisors at work thought I was going to drop dead while driving the forklift or something LOL ;D To me a week was a big accomplishment, I couldn’t have done it without you guys. During that time my lips actually stopped peeling and looked great for a few days, unfortunately once I started eating again the peeling cycle of my lips followed. I’ve been going to a TCM doc who says I have too much heat in my gut. I’m pre ...
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Yea, I had that from when I was excessively licking my lips.   [End]
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I’ve had some time to think everything you’ve been saying over and to be honest I don’t think I agree. Then again I’m no expert but here’s what I’ve been thinking.. You are saying acids are not related to cancer but which foods have been 100% proven and linked to cancer? a diet rich in acid foods or alkaline? The pH of these foods must have effect on different parts of the body.. right? That article was saying if drink alkaline water (or eat alkaline food I assume) that cells in the stomach will produce more acid until the pH goes back up to 4. If this alkaline water were to permanen ...
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hm.. thanks for sharing that, I’m gonna look into some of the stuff you’ve brought up I wish I could talk with someone who actually uses one of these machines but doesn’t sell them.. is an unbiased opinion too much to ask for   [End]
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Hey will i learn, thanks for advice, I’m gonna take a look at moreless’ protocol but foot baths or just baths in general aren’t really my thing, even if they do a great detox. Maybe I’m just being ridiculous but if I take a foot bath I’m pretty sure my testosterone will drop a few points lol ;D Or at least my manly ego will take a hit. I’ve tried alkaline diets but they didn’t do all that much for me, I’m thinking one of these machines might be a good investment.. whats 2 g’s compared to the 4 I’ve spent on supplements and health care the past 5 years. I just really need to find out ...
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yeah.. there seems to be a lack of REAL testimonials, if I get any good info I’ll PM it to you, hope you do the same ;D peace   [End]
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err.. yea, thanks for the great advice...   [End]
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I have atopic dermatitis (or something similar), dandruff and also noticed my finger and toe nails are extremely brittle, acid reflux,,, the list goes on.. half on my health problems are gone, I used to be much worse off a few years back but I can’t seem to get back to 100%   [End]
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Hey all, I know this might not be the right forum to ask this question but no one else seems to know. I figure there are probably some water experts somewhere in here ;D or at least some who have a good understanding of pH Has anyone ever tried one of these? http://www.waterionizerreviews.org/product_detail.php?product_key=Jupiter-Orion Does it live up to the claims? Can it have negative effects on the body since being overly alkaline isn’t healthy? Has anyone personally been cured of any illness by taking alkaline water?! Thanks ;D -MtL   [End]
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