”In all honesty, IC, any article or video used by either side can be propaganda.” I absolutely agree. There is no one true belief system. The universe is a collection of a myriad of beliefs. This is why I value free will and allowing freedom of choice. ”Advances in Science have as much to say as Christianity in this matter (or perhaps more).” Trouble is science can be used to front an agenda. Just take a look at mainstream medicine and then move the same sensibilities over into this arena. I call those that engage in science with an agenda a scientician. ”I personally thin ...
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Satan is mythological. It was created after christianity’s initial collection of doctrines. Symbologically it actually means anti christ. Now depending on who you talk to you will get more break downs from there. Anti creation, resistance to change or flow or expansion, or even shadow side (negative side of polarity). This was personified and then others went to town on more and elaborate distortions.   [End]
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What I see in this is connectedness vs walling off (all choices within the experience of god. In other words,it’s ALL god. We choose the experience within. It is bizarre to me that some people see god as an entity separate from creation. This disconnect has caused lots of human suffering and other suffering at the hands of humans. It is what I and others refer to as separation. God is universal energy (infinite potential). Everything IS god. To use your term. ;-) If we move into that paradigm then all beliefs are acceptable (not always optima from a harmony stand point).   [End]
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Christianity is losing its hold within the structure of society so this will not happen. This could very well be propaganda designed to sway public opinion.   [End]
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Many are looking at it with an open mind beyond what society is telling them and beyond the social engineering vectors at play. I saw the patterns after I disconnected with mainstream media and had some spiritual experiences. Now the control of the world is obvious and can be verified easily, unless there is either an agenda (as seen in forums like this) or there is fear based aversion to checking it out. Once you awaken to what is really going on there is no turning back. its in the same league as seeing beyond the facade of santa clause.   [End]
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Pull it. Unless of course sparks cause demolition like cave ins. Oh my.   [End]
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Excellent post Chaz. That about sums it up. I suppose it would a similar thing to suggest that denialism is also a psych disorder. ;-) Doesn’t really help anything just shows a lock down on exploring obvious patterns. Ask some of the people that escaped nazi Germany how they were ridiculed by pointing it out the obvious rising power. They endured the ridicule and got away. Those that were in denial.... By the way, as you likely know chaz (others may not) the term conspiracy theory was a term created by intelligence (cia) and injected in our culture to act as a form of r ...
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Spam is spam and you made a good call. But your feet still smell and your breath smells like a cat on a tuna binge;-)   [End]
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”However unlike einstein a guevara, two thugs responsible for thee deaths of many lives jesus walked the walk and talked the talk !” Myth icon for a separation belief system to control the masses. Next? ”Add inner con to the list of self appointed propped up icons.” A personal attack. Who would have ever guessed.   [End]
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That is because beliefs pen ones mind into a filtered view of reality. Beliefs filter the mind. That then gives us an experience relative to the belief.   [End]
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I agree that Einstein was propped up by the elite. Many say that his wife was the real brain behind the image. Add Jesus to the list of propped up icons. Ah yes the separation icon ;-) Notice who was categorically excluded by the elite and look at the information they brought forth. Reich and Tesla for a couple of the big ones.   [End]
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Yes exactly. All beliefs are limiting by their shear nature. They step down into a finite experience from an infinite potential of possible experience. Nice to have someone thinking at this level of awareness. This is why having an open mind must be revered.   [End]
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From one of the gospels that din’t make the ”cut.” ”The Kingdom will not come by waiting for it. It will not be a matter of saying ’Here it is’ or ’There it is’. Rather, the Kingdom of the Father is spread out upon earth, and men do not see it. . . . Let him who seeks continue seeking until he finds. When he finds, he will become troubled. When he becomes troubled, he will be astonished, and he will rule over all things.” - Jesus (from the gnostic Gospel of Thomas)   [End]
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At least someone sees the goofiness.   [End]
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This tech is leaked but has been there for a long while. Not only is history gate kept bust so is our current affairs. Perception is reality.   [End]
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hey can all pound salt. Torture mongering parasites.   [End]
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There are those in denial of obvious agendas. There are also those who are part of the agenda that deny for cover. Discernment.   [End]
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Do you think spirit needs a belief? Perhaps we have different ideas on what is ”spiritual.” I think spirit can play with beliefs but in essence it is that which is no belief and yet the potential for an infinite amount of beliefs. Unless you are talking about a collections of ideas of what spiritual is then that would be just another religion. Perhaps a religion only adhered to by one person but still a religion. This is why the concept of infinite potential is so important to grasp. Because it is the potential for all beliefs and all amalgamations. It allows the experience ...
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”Drink from the pure stream of water that Jesus Christ offers and do not drink or eat with devils who poison.” You bought into another form of poison laid out long ago. Apply your critical dot connecting to this myth and see where it leads. It lead me out of the snare and many others too. Take your power back. ;-) It is a promise for being saved tomorrow that keeps you powerless today. Guess what? Tomorrow never comes. Now who would spread a belief system like that and for what purpose? You get three guesses. see below. Yup. Those same ”su ...
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Religious beliefs that create separation. By creating a need to find completion out side of one’s self, it sets up a dynamic that can never be reached. What this allows though is offering solutions that can never be realized or gained. Like a carrot leading a horse on a loop that never ends. These solutions are mostly disguised control mechanisms. The formula is as follows: Problem...reaction...solution One example. Problem eg. I am a sinner Reaction eg. I need to be saved Solution. Do this and follow these tenants and you will be saved. The enslavement has happe ...
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That carrot dangling before the horse is used in all religion that creates separation. When ever one has to attain anything...the game begins...and yes enslavement.   [End]
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Hope is not change. It is just hoping for change which leads to apathy.   [End]
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Free masonry and related groups have infiltrated most if not all religions and political spectrums (left and right). The left pointing by itself misses the rest of the spectrum.   [End]
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A history check will show what has really happened instead of cherry picking a current thread. Like I said....   [End]
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Like I said before. I ”attacked” you to get your attention LONG after your extensive and abusive attack history was set in motion. It has become a long standing pattern where you always attack everyone first in your continual pattern of forum member abuse. Any one who posts information that you don’t agree with gets your belittling treatment in true and verifiable ”attack the messenger” style. Yes posting histories can be checked to verify this and should be. This victim thing you have shifted into isn’t flying at all. ;-) So then again. Are you willing to practice respe ...
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With no one attacking you back you will either quit the pattern or stick out all alone now. Good luck. Peace.   [End]
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Dude you have been attacking everyone all along and always first. You have been playing the role of forum bully for a long time. You were given lots of slack all along. People get tired of it and smack back on occasion to get your attention. Now that people have called you out, you are going into a victim mode. The best mode of all is a respect mode where you just share info and leave forum members out of it. Now that you are seeing where this kind of shit leads.... Are you ready to stop or are you addicted to the drama? BTW I am sorry but I really needed to get your attention. ...
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Wanna try a new approach? Don’t attack anyone or even mention them. Then any attackers will stick out like a sore thumb. Try it and see what happens. Then just use the alert button.   [End]
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Like us humans, and all other species riding on this eco orb, we are all experiencing a profound state of toxicity. Mankind has become parasitic in its effect on the rest of the eco system. This toxicity is effecting many functions including weather. There are of course other things affecting weather as well like long cosmic cycles at play. There are many factors where the weather is concerned. To deny climate change though, for what ever reason, is simply not paying attention to one’s environment.   [End]
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There is no real right or left. Been pointed out many times. All a puppet show laid out for distraction.   [End]
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Sums it up.   [End]
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Editor’s note: Dr. Carl Elliott, an M.D. and Ph.D., is the author of ”White Coat, Black Hat: Adventures on the Dark Side of Medicine” (Beacon Press, 2010). (CNN) -- If you want to understand the way prescription drugs are marketed today, have a look at the 1928 book, ”Propaganda,” by Edward Bernays, the father of public relations in America. For Bernays, the public relations business was less about selling things than about creating the conditions for things to sell themselves. When Bernays was working as a salesman for Mozart pianos, for example, he did not simply place advertisemen ...
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”This of course destroys the family as women are better at serving others and men are better producing useful or necessary items or products!” Only for those who fall into stereotypical, conditioning molds. There is a new mindest rising out of the old ashes though where people are tappping into thier infinite potential. I see this taking palve on the internet as people are going around the old guard gatekeeprs and marketing products and serviceds directly to people. The old guard is very concerned and trying to force new rules on the internet to counter this in order to maintain the ...
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There are two main reasons why this is. Inflation has forced most people into a 2 family income necessity. The other aspect that floats on top of this is people living beyond their means in several ways. One way is they think they need to own everything they have been conditioned through advertising to own to fill a psychologically manufactured need.. Another is trying to keep up with their tribe (social proof conditioning). In order to reshape this, people must prioritize their life experiences and place emphasis on their family unit vs mere stuff and things. The irony of this fa ...
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Poor spin again. You’re not even good at what you do. But the bottom line will hopefully now be looked at. That is all people are asking for. If you think you have nothing to worry about and that you are not breaking TOS then sleep well.   [End]
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Explain this to Grog and watch this forum transform.   [End]
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What you refuse to get is that you have bashed every person here repeatedly and have no desire to curb your attitude about it even though it is in direct opposition of the site TOS. Everyone here (except your son) and Moreless’s right hand, is calling you on it. As we do you then go into victim mode. It is like a kid who slaps another kid repeatedly. The kid then stands up to the bully and lets him have it. Then the bully runs around saying see, see they are picking on me that is why I must do this. Very strange logic matched with even stranger behavior. And you admitted ...
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It is NOT my goal to get you banned Grog. It is my goal to have a moderator have this forum adhere to the TOS that the webmaster thought was important enough to initiate in the first place. Then we can return to a civil discussion on these important issues away from the personal assaults (mostly levied by yourself). Feigning victim doesn’t hide your posting history. ;-)   [End]
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Then read his posting history which will fill in all the shadows. ;-)   [End]
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So in other words you want the right to break TOS. Noted.   [End]
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Is Austin your son? Just curious. Did he become a christian and influence you in that regard. Trying to piece this together. Since you did a 180 in your belief system do you think it is possible to change again as more info comes in?   [End]
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You have more than earned the few digs you get now after lobbying an ocean of attack on everything that moves. Now you huddle into victim mode. Try this and watch it all change. Don’t attack anyone personally any more and no one will attack you in response. And as a bonus you will get to keep your current name and not have to create another one. Second bonus. You may begin to gain some credibility.   [End]
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You get yourself banned by your posting behavior. The rest of your post is an ongoing example of why. Keep going. Next incarnation be more creative with your name though. ;-)   [End]
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You hit the nail on the head in that everyone must heal themselves first and then be a shining example for others. To be messed up and then theorize how things should be is incoherent and ultimately an exercise in futility. Become the change....   [End]
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You may be onto something there. ;-)   [End]
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Again you didn’t read. Hut then you seem to have an agenda that is quite obvious.   [End]
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”I have not followed you or taken swipes at you, and you will notice that I have not replied to you at all, since I told you I would not, after your mask was dropped and I saw who you really are. So your accusations are false.” The hipocrisy flows along with your passive aggressive style. You tend to want to call others on the very thing you engage in yourself and then defend it in the weirdest ways. I guess that all the private emailers who pointed out your obvious stalking pattern along with much of your other nonsense, must have all been mistaken. ”Now I will return to not rep ...
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I deflect insults back when they come my way. Take another look at my history. ;-)   [End]
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What you are clearly saying then (AustinM which has a similar look to JustinL..must be a coincidence)is that you think that personal assaults should be part of the forum rules. Perhaps you should lobby the webmaster to get that changed. As of now this style breaks TOS.   [End]
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Nope not at all. I am just calling for civility in your posting style. I fear no info. But for the sake of other sensitive posters who are not sharing because of all the unnecessary barking, there needs to be a balance on how the info is shared. The TOS clearly defines the rules of engagement which you are not following at all, ever. So your cry of censorship is not valid at all. Is it necessary for you to insult people every single post. Is that what you call sharing info?   [End]
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The amazing thing is that you have done a 180 on christianity. Discussing how I think the meme operates is not ”hate” as you try and label it. It is an exploration. I think it is a dysfunctional belief system and so did you at one time. A quick posting history on ”grog” will reveal what I am talking about. Perhaps you can enlighten me on why you are embracing this belief system now when before you were warning people about it? As fas as history goes, none of us know with 100 percent accurate the truth as who ever rules rewrites history to suite their agenda. Cmon grog you know t ...
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”And whats with this IC, I see you are allowing her, in your own words, to obsess about you again! lol! Love the sick egos on this forum!” Not sure who you are referring to. I seem to have a couple stalkers who try and pin me whenever they can. Agendas die hard. The same stalkers have been responsible for many people leaving. You do the math. My beef with you is only one thing. Quit the personal attacks at every turn. Stick to the information and we’re good.   [End]
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I actually do know him. ;-) And I knew you too for a while through private messages. So my info is accurate. The rest is obvious. Yes there is a pattern of taking out the trash and calling people an their crap especially after I have been subjected to attack after attack. You take every chance to take a swipe at me and when I swipe back Mrs. spud you enter histrionic mode. Noted again. ;-) You also defend H and Hunter throughout these forums and condone their behavior. You also condoned other people who were disrupting other forums (such as the Gulf Support Forum)Sorry I d ...
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I say we all pitch in for a strobe and a couple lava lights if that would keep him dazzled and away from his computer. When he does post he could change his name to Groovy Ryan.   [End]
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The only thing is.. We either have TOS and actually utilize them or create a free for all (which is what is going on now). If we have an even playing field I will venture a pretty good guess that the quality of posts and posters will rise dramatically. For instance. In improve, it is important not to block the flow so that the players keep reaching deeper and deeper aspects of their creativity. It is a similar thing when sharing any info. When the flow gets blocked it derails the process.   [End]
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There is a huge difference between ”attacking” information presented vs attacking personal members. This is the critical distinction that you are not making. If the webmaster or any forum moderator wants to they will soon see what is going on here. It is pretty stark and obvious. Just look at the last 3 pages in the abortion forum or the christianity forum. Also check the ip and compare it to Grog, Chaz, etc.   [End]
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I am not much of a censorship person. However in this case. You continue to disrupt the flow of interesting discussions over and over like it is your agenda. All you would have to do is stick with the information without always attacking people. You may have noticed that some have started attacking back. But in each and every case you start the attacks. So yes some moderation would be nice. Also look into this Ryan’s IP. I am pretty sure it is Grog/Chaz/and a raft of other names this person has used and been banned with each and every time. Enough is enough. No ”Rya ...
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There is only one guy into ”stroking parties” on this forum. Well when your boy joins ya then we can count that as two. It amazes me that you have taken to christianity to further your platform of hatred. Many posting characters ago (banned now)you despised christianity and saw it for what it was. I suppose though that was many joints and bowls ago. For instance... http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=270355#i and then another one of your personalities jumps in a year later after the banning to add to your thread. http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=270410#i You have d ...
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Strong smell coming from a lost man. May I suggest... [Image Embedded Here]   [End]
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Like father like son. The cave dwellers grunting into the mist. None can get a date. Too may bridges burned.   [End]
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He has a toddler that lives with him. He’s a toddler pushing 40. ;-) But you were accurate on the wife part. She left doge longgggggggggggggggg ago to save her sanity. Lots of other aquaintences tasted the poison and flew too. Bitter. Empty. Lonely. Sick. Stoned. All by choice. ;-) The pattern continues.   [End]
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Coming from super stoner. That flame done burn out long ago. Now your game is to spread your discontent. Try fixing your life and I’ll bet your attitude will improve.   [End]
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”I have no idea what you are saying in this or your other posts.” And everything else for that matter. You should really consider a refresher course in college. Stupidity isn’t *that* endearing. Perhaps around the campfire with the other hairy knuckle draggers your utterances fly, but in the larger society, well....   [End]
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You and your like minded clone Ryan show yourself with every word. Keep shinin’ Doing a great job for the cause. ;-)   [End]
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The way you post shows that you would make an excellent DICtator. Show us who you are. It helps our case.   [End]
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It is cases like this where some moderation would be nice. This guy has been banned more times than any other poster and has crawled back to spread his vile. It is like the mods just gave up. It just interrupts otherwise good flows of discussion.   [End]
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He’s a stoner. Seriously.   [End]
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You are painting people with labels which are not even accurate. This left/right charade that you continue to fall for actually paints you. Glad you are ”entertained.” Must be better than average weed this week. Just think. Soon your pension will kick in and you will have a bit more cash to invest in your insobriety.   [End]
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He is not pro life. He is pro ego and pro dope and pro hipocrisy.   [End]
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How many accounts do you have? DO you get your son to vote too? I noticed your votes appear right after your posts. Try growing some self esteem and without the water pipe. Do you seriously think you are setting a good example for those eyes that live with you? Cmon’ dude. Start living your talk. You put on some weird moral show and act like a jack ass while muttering words and ideas you have no first hand awareness of. Like Gandhi said. Be the change.... Try it.   [End]
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He has a hard time knowing the difference between a video and insulting forum members directly. He knows, but how else can he spread his poison?   [End]
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Ryan is a lonely old man. Wife left long ago.(whew) He smokes way too much weed and then posts his toxic waste. He is a hurting, lost and ill individual who wants everyone else to hurt along with him.   [End]
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There is only one self hating person in this entire forum. Also very deluded and polluted. Get up. Set down your water pipe. Go to a room with a mirror and gaze for a while. Let us know what you come up with.   [End]
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You are really diggin’ to the lowest reaches of the murky barrel to come up with arguments now. The author uses Islam to say that it could be worse if not for christianity? That is like saying...consider yourself luck that you were only stabbed and not shot. These bizarre justifications for christian suppression of women is like an intelligence test. You either see the absurdity and pass the test or not.   [End]
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Poor attempt at spin. Written like a lawyer. Slavery is slavery and bottom line it was endorsed by the psychotic ”god” character in the book of distortion (bible). It would be funny to see so many people fall for all the incoherent bs in this book if it wasn’t for all the real damage it has caused. We won’t even open the can of worms about blood sacrifice to the all knowing beast knows as ”god,” but apparently some still use that to endorse the eating of meat, specifically BB Qed.   [End]
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Sore doesn’t sufficiently discribe how badly my breast hurt 3/4 of the time. I had tried everything for 23 years with extremely limited relief. At this point, I feel I have to share that I have go ... [Video Embedded Here]   [End]
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A child of 16 doesn’t need a womb and its owner to sustain it.   [End]
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In amongst an otherwise good discussion, some incoherent noise is heard. ...ignoring the noise and the source it emanates from. ;-)   [End]
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...blow on the little guy to help get him over. Welcome to our crazy world young fella. ;-)   [End]
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French Bulldog Can’t Roll Over - watch more funny videos If embed code doesn’t work, here is the direct link... http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/8d45ee1177/french-bulldog-can-t-roll-over?rel=player [Video Embedded Here]   [End]
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”Hunting and killing an animal for food, clothing and\or shelter and tools... is quite a bit different than aborting a baby\child.” The difference is the meaning associated with the ”death” which is an example of how human mind filters things based on belief systems. ;-) Filters often exist to justify our actions. We invent the why. Our society is filled with examples of this conscious circuit at work. BTW, this is a good exploration and should be how this forum is used. Let’s hope the name calling will subside into the background of irrelevancy. I will always return to ...
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”I agree with what you say, killing is killing, whether it be at the early stages of life (fetus/unborn baby) or after birth. No matter the name, the new life is what it is. Whether it be at 4 weeks - 6 weeks - 8 weeks etc., and there is no end to the debate because no one can prove that this isn’t human life.” Food for thought (pun intended. Some will kill an animal, eat it and make up a long diatribe in support of that murderous act (downplaying it and spinning it as essential with supporting information). The same people though will claim, on the other hand, that aborting a fetus ...
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You may be onto something. But don’t tell too many people or big pharma will lose profits. ;-)   [End]
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You brought up some very excellent points. We need to ask better questions in order for a better harmony to unfold. If we all buy into the notion that we are co-creating this world as active participants, then we influence and shape the world in an ongoing fashion. That contribution cannot be a forced endeavor but is truly natural. Within that scope there are influences and that process is also part of the full nature of life. So then what is ”natural.” Well in a sense it all is part of the game of infinite potential. A better question again then, may be, what is harmonious ...
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Vs let’s force our will on another, no matter what it is. Question: Would you give up your right to eat a murdered animal (meat) in order to have all aborted fetuses ”saved?” Is your conviction only extended to one small fragment of the entire ecosystem?   [End]
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This demonstrates why an issue like abortion must never be considered as a microcosm. It is a connected holistic issue and connects a much deeper theme as you have pointed out. Our world is disharmonic due to our choices and influences. One thing that many of our religious vie holders fail to realize is that the views they are projecting into the world are a big part of the disconnect. The more you push against something, the bigger it gets. What you focus on grows.   [End]
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Along with grzbear’s opinion he also stated this very important additional phrase that seems t be missed... ”That said, do not let my position, determine yours... you have every right to do what I, or, someone else may believe is wrong.” In other words it would appear that grz bear is not only prolife like everyone else in this forum but also pro choice. The issue that still remains though is that some people in this forum favor a forcing of women to grow thier fetus’s into babies against thier will. *That* is a serious issue. You either subscribe to free will or you do not.   [End]
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Just observing christy-insanity. ;-)   [End]
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Actually you may be surprised the people using social networks these days. It is heavily used for branding and marketing and many business circles. Take a look on face book and twitter and search some of the famous people that you may have some respect for. You may reconsider the ”half a brain” status label after undertaking the exercise. Twitter for instance in alt health circles: Mike Adams from http://www.naturlanews.com is on there. Jon Barron is on there. Mercola is on there. etc. Many famous authors also have a presence on there as well as face book. Social media is ...
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Computers using AI and algorithms do the initial screening then flag any ”hot” convos for humans to consider. There is nothing ”conspiracy theory” about this. It has been widely admitted by both American and Canadian governments and is operated under the guise of national security. The Bush administration came under the gun many years ago doing this covertly. Did you see the article online the other day that showed a CIA tracking device that was found by a Middle Eastern man who lives in the U.S? This kind of tracking has been going on as well for some time. Yes folks the pol ...
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It’s all about sharing and there are many ways and styles to do just that. Keep on keepin’ on. ;-)   [End]
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Doing a search on many of these ”christian” posters and you will see reams of examples of hatred placed on top a mythical god. They blame an outside force for what looks deep within their own consciousness. In other words they are projecting a pattern and blaming a ”god” symbol. That way they can live with themselves, barely. I think you have said you have a degree in psychology? Then you must see this pattern as well. it is kind of like how therapists will use a teddy bear to get a child to open up. The child will project their inner patterns onto the teddy bear. We same the ...
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2 things missing from your post: 1) harp music 2) flashing warning sign saying...”church and state must never mix.”   [End]
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I thought you and master moreless were his chosen messengers? Why don’t I just ask you? Get on the god hotline and find out.   [End]
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”As you see by the video, God is changing hearts within the abortion centers. Who knows....a nurse or abortionist’s heart may be pricked right now reading/watching this forum.” It is one thing to” change a heart” through influence and it is entirely another thing to control that same heart through force. Is god about forcing or about giving choice as in free will?   [End]
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Perhaps when the THC is fully metabolized and providing memory isn’t impaired, you will get your question.   [End]
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Believe me. The global elite don;t need to rely on abortions to meet their population reduction and sterilization agenda. That is the very long way around the issue. There are more effective methods to reach their objectives. Throwing this into the freedom of choice debate just confuses and obscures the view.   [End]
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Mental illness.   [End]
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Domin8. It’s been a game for some men for a very long time and it has especially reared its ugly head in religions. It is based of course on the notion that there is a guy in the sky who thinks women are actually a man slave. Convenient lie for some men.   [End]
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Would really freak some of these people out to know that hair and finger nails can grow after the main body dies. Perhaps we should keep dead people propped up in chairs around the family table until the hair and nails stop growing. That growth could be suggestive of a living being. Tissue does not equal consciousness. So then let’s see some actual science suggesting that fetal tissue is a rational, thinking being, rather than just some random opinions of a few scientists that are not seeing the whole picture but are looking at it from a narrow view. By the way a scientist’s vie ...
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