Excellent quotes. Love Georgie.. With humans it’s abortion, but with chickens it’s an omelet. ~George Carlin Oh these special humans. We must maintain our dominance over other species on one hand while making sure we ourselves are held as sacred through our exclusive ”morality.” The we attribute such goofiness to a guy in the sky for having invented the bs.   [End]
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Relevant search term and then filter by choosing ”images” at the top of the google results page.   [End]
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Well meaning poking serves a valuable purpose. It stimulates people to make potentially knew choices unless of course they enjoy their current loop. What ever serves.   [End]
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”http://www.studiopress.com/demo/freelance.html” Then could you please come and sew my arm back on. I could really use it. ;-) But seriously you guys are showing in this little spin off thread here what the essence of healing is all about. Life is just one big informational cluster fux at all levels. We can shape that informational landscape in a disharmonious fashion or a harmonious one. I think it is obvious as to what may be preferred. Without contrast there would be no experience. You need polarity or there is no reference.   [End]
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Ya I hear ya. InnerCalm is kinda new agey which I am not. I must have been in a mellow mood when I chose it to make my first post. My name should be more like InterCom, Hows the lyme doing? I think more people have it and its variations than we could ever imagine.   [End]
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Was your user name inspired by the animation years back?   [End]
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I am vegan and thrive on that. But again others make their own choices.   [End]
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Get well. Take care.   [End]
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Good answer. Do you think humans are more special than other animals. I know at least one person in this forum who thinks that and has no problem killing an animal for supper yet is dysfunctionally vocal about wanting to force women to have children against their will.   [End]
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Muscle testing is an option. The body responds much better to natural food supplements than chemical types. Look at the foods that have what you need in them and also use digestive enzymes to extract the most out of them.   [End]
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If you had a daughter and she was brutally raped, became pregnant as a result and she did not want to have the baby, would you support her in her decision? Hard choices huh?   [End]
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Readd my other post titled ”Interesting” in this thread about when the soul potentially enters the body. I was reading that it is about the 2 month mark. They were observing with kirilian photography and they could plainly see a light ”body” detached from the human ”avatar.” Then at about the 2 month mark it merged. I am trying to back this up with more info. I find kirilian photography quite interesting when it comes to energy.   [End]
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Belief systems often have disconnects. I call them moral dilemmas. ;-)   [End]
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Trouble is he goes to every other forum and has a pattern of starting debates and insulting posters. That disrupts the flow of support forums. Many people think it would be helpful for him to stay in his own forum. This has come up with other disruptive entities in the past. He thinks he has an exclusive brand on ”the truth” and this has become his fuel for the disruption in other forums. it would be different if only one or two people noticed this pattern but the notice is widespread.   [End]
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He’d likely eat the fetus if he thought he could get high enough. Sometimes morals can be negotiated. ;-)   [End]
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Unless it is scrawled on a cave wall or perhaps engraved on a club. [Image Embedded Here]   [End]
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Does your ”concern” extend to the rest of the animal kingdom or do you think humans are ”special?” Try a no grunting response for a change.   [End]
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...the scenario as a staring point to show that it is imperative that people have their own rights and not be forced to do things concerning their own body. I created the scenario as a jump off point. A baby requires a mother to bring it forth in our world. Shouldn’t it remain the mothers right then to make decisions in that regard? So this is a very special case of human rights. And like I said before, belief systems weigh heavily in this. Some say the fetus is conscious and others say not initially etc. Who is right? Where is the proof? Free will.   [End]
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In mathematics, two negatives actually makes a positive. Trouble is when it comes to negative and positive aspects to belief systems, they are not universal. In other words what I find negative, another person may think is positive. And are they really negatives and positives in the overall scheme of things? Or is it all just information that we label that way. I think people think that because they believe something is true that it must be that everyone thinks that way. Boring world if that were true. We could just all be one person instead of the vast array that we are.   [End]
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”What the Hell are you smoking???” I would wager copious amounts of cannabis. Just a feeling. It is fueling severe hatred but he doesn’t yet get that hatred is actually self directed and likely the main cause of his failing life. You can’t spit venom like that constantly and NOT have it affect you. That energy takes it’s toll in health. I would be willing to wager heavily that our forum buddy is quite ill. You can sense it.   [End]
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Yes these are all beliefs until we see convincing proof. As long as we understand we are dealing with our beliefs. I did find the article interesting in regard to when a body and soul interfaces. If that is true it really changes this entire debate.   [End]
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Thank you very much for your heart felt answer. If I am to take what you said and sort out your opinion (which I agree with some of it) would it be fair then to say you are a proponent of free choice? You said you would not force them but try to influence their decision. Nothing wrong with that. So then you are just like me. I am pro choice and I personally WOULD have a child under most circumstances but think that is a choice we must all personally make ourselves and never be forced.   [End]
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I think he’s suffering. I think if we actually saw the people on the other end and saw their conditions, much more understanding would be available.   [End]
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It was pointed out to you by another poster that you are engaged in a belief system. There is evidence that a fetus doesn’t become conscious until after the abortion window is over. That said, I am pro life but pro choice as well. I think free will is very important, especially where belief systems are involved. No one wants to be told what to do with their bodies. What if you were forced to carry someone else’s baby? How would you feel about that?   [End]
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Would you force a women to carry a baby full term against her will if you had the power to do so? If it were medically possible would you carry a baby for someone else if they were choosing to abort and you could ”save” the child that way? Please think about your answers and respond with deep honesty.   [End]
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That kinda back fired for him. Poor guy.   [End]
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Notice your reaction ”speak for yourself?” That is what this entire debate has been about What would you do if someone told you you couldn’t have your baby and they aborted it against your will. See how you feel when the freedom of choice is reversed? I really want you to take some time with that one and feel it. If you are coming from a religious paradigm, then also isn’t free will a precious ideal? To stand for the forcing of a childbirth on a mother who did not want that to happen for what ever reason, that would take away her free will. So you see, you are faced with a dil ...
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Such a rational response and very concise. Thanks.   [End]
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I was recently reading an article (not online) that with kirilian photography you can see the soul waiting to enter the body of the fetus and it does so around the 2 month mark. I will look for more info to back this up. It sure resonates with me because, in case you haven’t noticed, we are not our bodies. They are like remote control devices that we control with our consciousness. So it would make sense that we interface with them when they are ready. If that turned out to be 100 percent factual, what would you say then?   [End]
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All bow to the holder of THE truth. Oh my. He just isn’t gettin’ it.   [End]
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Everyone is different in how they process information. I will cut to the chase. It is essential that this choice be made by the person whose body it is. No one wants to have anything forced to take place in their body by another. To force that would be barbaric. If you are a women, then I pose this to you... Would you be will to carry the child in your womb if that was possible? If you are a guy then you don;t really have resonance with the situation. You don’t even have ovaries.   [End]
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”Unless you have been in the position that these women are in, you have no right to judge or condemn any woman, for choosing to terminate a pregnancy” And there it is. It is easy to sit back and criticize when one is not emotionally, physically, mentally and emotionally invested in the situation. And if the character ”god” wants to help out ”he” can show up and do so. Otherwise the choice remains with the birth portal owner. Pretty simple really.   [End]
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Although watching the ”I know you are but what am I” antics is rather revealing. lol   [End]
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The pattern continues. I’ll let you stew in your ego a bit longer. Maybe if you don’t stimulate anymore attention you will return to your forum and lead your people.   [End]
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The thing is, and you identified it... The best course of action would be to nourish his own forum instead of venturing out all the time. People know where to find him when they want his opinion. By venturing out it is suggestive of other things beyond helping.   [End]
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”But you need to realize that curezone is a big tent with a lot of different approaches and views on health and treatments. And you need to have respect for that. ” Here’s hoping the advice is considered.   [End]
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If you’re interested you can look it up. Unlike you I am not a victim and do not need to continually prove my ”worth.” Like I said, concerning this thread, my exploration serves a purpose. A coherency check.   [End]
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So you’re using the victim thing as your stance? Poor little H must rise up against all the meanies and set everyone straight? Incredible spin doctoring but thanks for showing us the pattern. Bully. LOL What I am suggesting is that you can easily control the flow of your own site. You could have a ”no bully” zone. But of course as others are seeing your presence here is about site disruption. Nice 180 on the bully tag.   [End]
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Is the strategy to draw your boss out of the hot seat by bringing up ridiculous assertions while engaging in your usual character assassination antics? The question still remains unanswered so its time to bring in the clowns I see. What you are doing very nicely is proving the agenda to be correct for those who have been watching the patterns unfold over time. Keep up the ”good” work Hunter/Tomi.   [End]
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Don’t even get me started on his regular and highly suspect skewering of some of the greatest alternative health personas such as Gerson et al. By their fruits indeed. I have repeatedly asked why he continues to keep a presence here at curezone if he is so dismayed by the way the site is being run(allowed to run). No answer yet. The tell tale sign was that his recent thread (like many before it)got tossed over here in the trash can from the webmaster support forum. That is a clear indication of what the webmaster thinks of H’s ”concerns.” The webmaster is the only one who m ...
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American soldiers terrorize and rape an Iraqi women. She becomes pregnant as a result. Christians swoop in and coerce her into having the baby. The hold food and shelter over her head as bait. Praise the lord.   [End]
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You side slipped the question again. How many times have you done that now? Quite a few and counting. Again. (I’ll bold it for you) Why remain on a site where it does not meet your satisfaction and allows you to be a ”victim” as you so clearly put it? This makes your statement ”provocateur” Quite ironic. But then we both know this is about classic site disruption. I don’t think you have many fooled. Perhaps that is why these tactics become necessary.   [End]
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It’s a matter of perspective. My posts may be very helpful in serving as a coherency check. Again I will ask, and you can continue to ignore, why remain on a site where you are a victim (as you put it) and where the site owner refuses to take up your (lost)”cause.” Why? If it is such a thorn in your side, to remain a ”victim” here on curezone (as you put it) when all you have to do is create your own site seems quite odd.   [End]
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The ugliness continues. *sigh*   [End]
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Interesting side step. That confirms my suspicions. As far as ”evidence,” much of what you choose is mainstream science for hire. The soy issue is a massive case in point. Some other tell tales are how you go after some icons in the alternative healing arts. People that have had massive success. Anyway the main point that you are not addressing is... Why be on a site where the owner isn’t jumping at your every whim? This time address the question.   [End]
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You missed the most important part. The webmaster is not addressing your ”claims.” Why do you suppose that is? Why remain on a site where your ”extreme value” is not seen by the owner? Why continue to piss into the wind? I hope someone has the time to dig up your conflicts with people where you personally attack them. It is way more than three.   [End]
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All the paper tigers are set to burn. The cointel pro ops are running to completion. Kill switch ready.   [End]
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”t is so ironic that your post is loaded with personal attacks against me just like DQs posts.” Then...without a gap.... ” I guess monkey see monkey do.” That is all.   [End]
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”while re-victimizing the real victim, which is me.” Ahhhhh the victim card. Was wondering when that would get played. The disruption continues as your methods fall on deaf ears. This is the most dramatic demonstration of megalomania I think I have ever witnessed on line. But then I think it is a feigned stance to create a sustained diversion. By their fruits...   [End]
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Like I said before. No one has you bound to this place. If in your mind it is so terribly run, then you can exercise your options. Having your own site isn’t rocket science, especially for someone who is ”so great” by their own standards.   [End]
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” Pretty good advice. So of course the bold text begs the question. Agenda?   [End]
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”Why do you think I posted about DQ’s abusive actions on the Webmaster forum? As for the rest of your post why are you not making these suggestions to DQ since HE is the one that started the insults then hid my response because it showed a contradiction in his claims? Ironic how the Trash Can Clique is all here supporting DQ’s trashy actions.” Actually the real irony is something else which I will get to, but first... Here’s the thing. You have had problems with so many people on this site and have complained over and over in the Webmaster forum about each and every one of the ...
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Instead of these type of histrionic/abusive posts, why don’t you just personally contact the website owner and get clarification on things. That is the most sure fire way to get things dealt with, one way or another. Unless these tirades have nothing to do with flowing with the site and something altogether different. So then, your choice. Further pouting and continued disruption or take it to the top and get your answer. If the answer given to you from the top doesn’t align with your sensibilities are you willing to create your very own website where you can be the king with y ...
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Extend that to forum owners as well with a comments section. ;-)   [End]
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Scientologist. LOL Perhaps you missed my blistering critique on that cult. Again Tomi/hunter your methods are quite suspect. BTW, H needs no help to get his messages delegated to *this* area. Perhaps look at his posting history for more on that (long before I was here). Of course you know that being part of his posse. ;-) BTW you are the king of thread derailment by shear volume of disruption and personal attacks ( certainly not expertise nor finesse).   [End]
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I would take a bullet for the Tonymeister. Well not a ”real” bullet because they sting a bit too much, but one of those nerf ones for sure. Seriously though... Tony has a long history with curezone and has it’s best interests in mind. He resonates with the owner on most, if not all issues and is a model for both a polite and helpful forum host as well as an impartial moderator. Unlike some others on this site, he has no agenda and when others post information that he may not agree with, he only examines the information, leaving the person out of it...unless provoked, then he will ...
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Same game, different day.   [End]
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I guess that means you and your disruption crew will be hanging out here to do your work even though you think the place is run terribly. Thanks for proving my point. Continue on. By their fruits...   [End]
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The king of disruption goes on the attack again. Perhaps you have noticed what the site owner thinks of your tirades. Yup in the ole trash can it went. So then, a simple solution to ”your big problem” would be to take your posse and start your own forum elsewhere. But then of course that would never happen would it. It is pointless to disrupt yourself. ;-)   [End]
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Well Tony ole chap. Looks like the site owner showed agent H and crew what he thought of this thread and relegated it to the sub basement. Suggestion to the infiltrators. Start your own forum if this one is run so ”terribly” in your opinion. You echo this sentiment repeatedly. Why would anyone stay at a site that they don’t like the way it is run? Ahhhhhh but then your agenda would miss its target audience wouldn’t it? Ding Ding...the tell tale sign of what is really going on. ;-)   [End]
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The disinfo crew has you in their cross hairs. The infiltration continues. Phase 3.   [End]
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But do you have Monsanto science for hire, peer reviewed documents to back up your claims? Our society has an illness agenda to continue with so.... By their fruits. The madness continues. ;-)   [End]
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Glad you got yourself out of the conditioning loop.   [End]
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Were you self deprogrammed or did you use a professional to get yourself out of the cult?   [End]
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Just human? How do you feel about chickens?   [End]
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But see they envision an angry god so its all about getting more people here to suffer the same wrath they have been all their lives. ;-) Misery loves company.   [End]
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We live in the land of individual rights under fire among those that despise them This land cries out with the screech of the angry callously voicing their intolerance Hear the christians cry ”It’s our choice” hear the fetuses say ”if at some point I am born into this world, I choose personal freedom” In a land found guilty of legal insanity millions have succumb to the church indoctrination I raise my voice against such injustice as my eyes watch in horror the numbing of a nation. Republished by InnerCalm   [End]
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Not according to the Diebold machine. ;-)   [End]
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Bong water.   [End]
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A man and a screen Fingers and keys An ill fit for shooting the breeze Dominate women the fetus a pawn align with jesus to spread the con Clackity clack more words appear selling a cause selling with fear We must end This freedom of choice how dare they choose must silence their voice My choices rule but yours do not count as I eat my carved cow and bellow about clackitty clack the hipocrisy flows from the heart of this man just beyond his own nose   [End]
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...as the animal kingdoms power animal. He was a real bear according to legend. He was a talking bear that had a fire phobia and it was through his living works that we may be free of forest fires. All we must do is emulate his great work and heed his advise and we too will be saved from forest fires. Praise Smokey. Also... Do not fall asunder to the evil one Yogi. That is one bad bear and he will try and tempt you because he is after your picnic basket. Don’t give in. Keep your basket safe. There was a time where Yogi tempted Smokey but Smokey did prevaileth ... [Image Embedded Here]
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Whose propaganda do you listen to . Those with a vested interest or those without. Here’s some info that has NO vested interest. http://www.fitnessspotlight.com/2007/11/16/ditch-the-soy/ Vs Monsanto and friends ”science” (for hire).   [End]
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The list reads like a who’s who of nutritional death. By their fruits... ;-)   [End]
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The only way to deal with such blatant stubborn limited patterns is with satire. It might plant a seed. The absurdity needs to be spotlighted.   [End]
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That is a fraction of what is going on now.   [End]
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Doesn’t Jesus look sweet with a bazooka. When he goes on a killing spree, christians get reallllllllllllly turned on. ;-)   [End]
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Apparently his pituitary is spitting out high levels of prolactin and his breasts are firming up. Perhaps we shall call him ”peaches.” ;-) This one’s for you Tony. [Video Embedded Here]   [End]
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...play in money markets? Forex trading?   [End]
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Excellent work Chaz. That cop did not stand a chance. The judge probably glossed over the statement and said........not worth it. This gets waved. You mowed the situation with extreme force. *applause*   [End]
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The boys still have it. 60 and going strong. [Video Embedded Here]   [End]
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Keepin’ the groove going with The Rockets. [Video Embedded Here]   [End]
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Get your morning groooooove on with Ram Jam. [Video Embedded Here]   [End]
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She knows it’s there, she’s not going to believe anything anyone tells her anyhow. I suggested writing some FAQs along time ago. Never happened. Then somebody started the wiki which quite f ... [Video Embedded Here]   [End]
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The ultimate winning combo. Song by Lenny and performance by Jeff. Immortal. [Video Embedded Here]   [End]
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Pretty much. Seeing as they have ideas of diagnosis and treatment for the masses perhaps we can suggest in kind for them. My suggestion is a high pressure colonic via fire hydrant. Your ideas?   [End]
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For those following along its 6:45 AM where I am. Not a busy time at curezone. However Tomi is from the uk and its prime time there. It just so happens that the number he is playing tag with is also up and on along with him (playing the exact same game). Interesting coincidence. ;-) Connecting dots. Observe another thread derailment by the numbers ala tomi.   [End]
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Yup. And it just goes to show once again that when we isolate and use as a ”treatment’ we create yet another imbalance (problem). We must look at this holistically.   [End]
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Then stick to the message Tomi so we don’t have to dance. Unless you enjoy it. By the way how is one ”late at the party.” People usually tend to go To parties and not At them. Is it different where you live? I will leave you be to your spin doctoring and game playing with multiple personas. If you want to follow me around I understand. You are not fooling anyone though. Just yourself. I will leave it at that. Back to the topic.   [End]
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Hunters other number. Predictable. Do you have actual info on the topic or just following me around playing your usual sniper games?   [End]
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You are picking and choosing and spinning. Nothing new. You have a hard time deciphering messages, thus the everclear remark (it is a strong alcohol for the record). Follow along and if you need help perhaps ask another forum member to act as a guide. Now let me ask you. Besides following me around from thread to thread, engaged in your usual tactics, what are your ACTUAL VIEWS on the topic within the thread. Unless of course you’d rather focus on me like you have been for months now. By the way, after all your game playing did you get the girl? (hardly ;-) Of course if you w ...
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What you are not understanding is the difference between freedom of choice, whatever in view form or not or what these guys are saying they would do. They would force a women against her will to have an unwanted pregnancy. A bit late to the party Hunter/tomi. Are you speaking for your entire male tribe or just yourself?   [End]
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The point being that if some of these posters had their way, they would want women to be forced to go to term with unwanted pregnancies. Is that more clear, beyond the Ever Clear?   [End]
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My view, because you missed it, is freedom of choice.   [End]
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Totally agree. My research shows we were a seeded race. Just look at some of the cave drawings for a quick snap of evidence.   [End]
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Notice that you find it difficult to stick to the info Ryan and go on the attack. This literally creams your credibility in case you don’t know. Just curious. Besides abortions, what other things should be forced upon people against their will? And you label other’s fascist? What a twist. ;-) Where do you stand on animal rights? Just checking for your moral coherency on this. Let me guess. You have no problem killing animals because humans have more value in your eyes. How would you like a world where you weren’t allowed to eat chicken anymore? How is that different than ...
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So far I have only seen men in this forum wanting to force their views. The odd time we see a very conditioned christian female parrot what they think is the party line, but that is rare in comparison. Seems to be another control issue by some men. It may be time for the forced vasectomy forum so we can see how the debate flips. ;-)   [End]
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The hate card is often used to distract the main issue. When a person is sitting on nothing, often they flail away. Tell any one of the guys that they need to have their testicles removed in order to curb unwanted pregnancies and you will see a double standard rear its ugly head. Again for the labelers. I am pro life. If I had the apparatus to have a child and I got pregnant I would have the child. The rub is, I don’t have the right to force that decision on anyone else. The morality from the black dusty book that gets quoted here often talks about free will...not forced will. ...
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The purple one’s right? But just remember that GMO soy isn’t as bad as some things. *Insert face palm here.* If there was a thread of credibility left it vanished on that one. Some spin is just to hard of a sell no matter what foundation has been laid to inject the poison.   [End]
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Makes a good motor oil too that doesn’t break down very easily. Damn fine plastic too. MMMMMMM, let’s endorse that as food. Animals won’t touch it but let’s process the crap out of it in order to make it partially usable. Then lets promote it and spin it as a health food. And for its promoters... ...by their fruits. Don;t even get me started on the GMO aspects.   [End]
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