Yes maybe atheism is a stage of growth and learning and it does seem to be the case and religion, particularly christianity, is the stage where all growth and learning stops and a tight litle box is built around your thought processes!   [End]
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Well once again no answer no basis for a theory just bashing what you’ve been told to bash! Tell me what are these lies and how do you know they are lies! And i dont think Im the one making unnecassary assumptions, I think those who live in fear of being exposed make th assumptions!And the lies!   [End]
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So you are here to make some silly claim with out foundation ! You claim wholes but have no counter theory, so your post have no meaning ,just nonsensical bashing against something that you know nothing about ! Sorry I thought you had something to say!   [End]
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”Hey Grog, now I know you’re old enough to remember”your quote ! Typicle christian ploy to start a fight then try to blame the other guy! Your derogotory statement opens you up to the conotation ”little man” because that how you present yourself!   [End]
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People dont hate god, just those who claim to have his power and wisdom ! The biggest affront to god is religion!   [End]
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lol you talk about deciet when your whole religion is based on deciet! you have no real argument against evolution, all you know is it goes against the lies you’ve been taught all your life! All you can use is tit for tat because thats what the bible teaches, all you see are enemies because the foundation on your belief system crumbles intellectualy in front of your eyes and it makes you want to start a war to keep it pumped up!   [End]
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lol! You creationist are always making up stories! I don’t remember anyone pointing a gun at the people who voted in the science of evolution ! It seems to me a was a proper debate with intellectual skills at work ! No Inquisition no Crusades no forced entry ! Evolution as we new it was simply a common sense approach to some good questions! The bible however is little more then a book of lies meant to decieve and control! There is not one thing based on reality in all of it, simply forced consensis and brainwashing!   [End]
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So which definintion do you chose ? Now you can pass several silly myths off at once! It seems the ones who resist the science of evolution the most have the least science behind there theory! Dogma is dogma little man! ©†ƒ……•™¼‡_Original_Message_¾€š½ž¢«»¬ï°© So which definintion do you chose ? Now you can pass several silly myths off at once! It seems the ones who resist the science evoilution the most have the least science behind there thoery! Dogma is doghma little man!   [End]
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Never said darwin has ALL the answers but at least he gave an honest account without the dogma of of some presumptuous fairy tale! Not one thing in the bible is accountable for anything it says! It has no proofs and does not try to give them, yet a whole group of stooges try to push thier book of bull on the rest of the world at the point of a gun! At least Darwinist do not try to force thier opinions on others !   [End]
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More brilliant debate from the creationist who demand proof of evolution but live by some silly story told in the book of Simon Says and Simon Says the Universe is only 6000 yrs old, more great comedy lol!   [End]
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Now here is some brilliant creationism, the bible thumpers bumbling and pathetic little story about where we came from. Im not sure who is more confused , those who read the bible or those who wrote it! But it sure is funny!   [End]
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Yours opinion is so much crapola ! And to prove that moderation is in a biased and evil mood is the fact that all though you have broken the rule of exosing my privacy number, is the fact that it was not deleted and has sat their for 13 hours and no one has done anything about it! This is the bias and hate that pushes the fundamentalist in charge! One half of moderation is guilty by there action the other by the passive blind eye they show by doing nothing!   [End]
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I said snake oil approach by mannotech ! This is the evil of power over what is being said to make people look bad! This may be an alternative sight but it is being run by people who are so out in right field and who have learned the corporate use of consensis driving opinion and forcing those who disagree out and coddling those you agree with! ! And do you go through all my deleted posts and have a good laugh! And your typicle passive agressive little remarks insinuating my health is making me say things with no real reason is so you! And just like the establishments way of dealing with ...
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And I dont see a conflict in eith er of those statements! My reasons are as clear as I can make them ! It is not I that has any thing to hide! Maybe you can clearify what the problem is you have with these statements!   [End]
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how would anyone know that the two times i posted anonamously have that info unlees it was a mod or givin to them by a mod ! Out of the hundreds of posts someone would know that was me, you guys have no end to your games two posts and that person would remember that or find it in such a short period f time all on thier own ! You can fool a lot of people with that kind of nonsense but not me ! Geesh What are you hiding Ptree? ©†ƒ……•™¼‡_Original_Message_¾€š½ž¢«»¬ï°© how would anyone know that the two times i posted anonamously have that info unlees it was a mod or givin to them by a ...
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lol dont kid yourself or anybody else! only a mod has that info and thats a well known fact ! But thats how you operate any way I can see and so can everybody else! Maybe after all the name calling from you and the underhanded tactics are becoming clearer by the minute people will start to understand how we are all being manipulated and made to look bad when really its just egomaniac moderation pulling string s and hiding meesages that expose them and protecting those you agree with them ! It a shame this has gotten so out of control because of selfish ego drivin moderation! Shame on you I ...
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By exposing my privacy number ! This is probably th esame moderator who banned me a while go and kept on banning me eveytime you unbanned me about 5 or 6 times ! this is The kind of moderation that gives Curezone such an abusive reputation and is probably the same one callin honest and concerned posters trolls! This is something you should not continue to ignore! Why sacrifice Curezones rep for the sake of an out of control moderator! who seem to be the ones bringing Curezone down the tubes of uselessness! ©†ƒ……•™¼‡_Original_Message_¾€š½ž¢«»¬ï°© By exposing my privacy number ! This ...
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privacy I think this shows how cowardly you are and if you looked I di that only twice and felt it was cowardly ! Done because so many mods and trolls whre doing the same! I may have done that twice in the hundreds of posts but never had a moderator expose me before! Now all the cowardly mods use there numbers because they know how foolish they woulf look if using their names! Now off to complain to the incaring webmaster to see what hes going to do about being exposed by on of the worst mods and the most revengeful mods ever at curezone!   [End]
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If I told you it would be whiped out immediately! Lets say they are and have been the most silent of them all!   [End]
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Ya the cowardly alias ! Always ther to belttle any statment, and wonders why people distrust curezone! Thanks for helping to confirm or concerns!   [End]
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here at curezone ! It seems the corporate mind of consensis driving and misinformation have takin over ! The money makers at the Glyconutrient forum with thier corporate scripture and thier trashing of all the other nutrient s such as vitamin C or the claim that taking thier cocktail of natures products on the order of the pharmaceutical paradigm is all that is neccesary in a return to good health have coerced moderation into supporting them and censoring honest challenges to their mass marketing agenda ! The new MH forum labled an expert, yet even the webmaster has said he is wrong ...
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here at curezone ! It seems the corporate mind of consensis driving and misinformation have takin over ! The money makers at the Glyconutrient forum with thier corporate scripture and thier trashing of all the other nutrient s such as vitamin C or the claim that taking thier cocktail of natures products on the order of the pharmaceutical paradigm is all that is neccesary in a return to good health have coerced moderation into supporting them and censoring honest challenges to their mass marketing agenda ! The new MH forum labled an expert, yet even the webmaster has said he is wrong qui ...
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Don’t give up ! To many have left me here for the same reasons! Saying they cant handle the stress of it and dont want to be looke d at in a bad light! I have decided a long time ago that that is a cop out! I may have challenged you a few times on some of your ideas but you have always answered me in a forthright and open manner! Your leaving is exactly what they want! They have muffled to many and have persuaded those in control that challenging them is not tolerable! But the more that moderation calls me a troll the more I realize they have something to hide! One by one the good people ...
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Come on Millie ,you dont know if you can get leeks in India but you do just happen to have a an establishments doctors name! Who are you I say miss multiple alias’s? Whats you agenda, if I may ask?   [End]
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to defeat the Jewish community! Divide and conquer~create a whole religion based on a saint like man and blame a group of very successful people for the murder of him and create two hate groups that will fight and kill each other for centuries to come!   [End]
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A post titled Mai li and Grog by some one asking a simple guestion concerning MH ! This is wrong unless she asked it to be deleted ! And I dont see why she would!   [End]
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Trojan horse! Play the part and play it well ! I have often thought that curezone was viris laden !   [End]
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You mean if you were trying to make a profit in the alternative industry! Many cut and paste gurus enter the alternative health industry when eyes light up from its potential! My theory is simple ! If you cant beat them join them , then chip away from the inside out! You know an MD who is anti alternative and comes here push to pharmaceutical drugs etc. would never get his foot in the door! But some one already in the alternative industry and with a product for sale and is in financial trouble could easily be persuaded to do a little dirty work for the powers that be! In gener ...
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This is why Mh does a terrible disservice to the alternative health industry! According to Mh nothing is safe! He might as well say stop eating or kill yourself! People coming here first time readers will look at Mh’s forum and just give up before they even get started! With his stooges asking these constant retarded question he is always right at the front door when coming to Curezone! This guy is a plant, he is supported by people who have self promoting agendas including moderators and has fooled the rest! Even this guys attitude is so typical of the establishment doctor ...
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your god is denial and he doent get it! ©†ƒ……•™¼‡_Original_Message_¾€š½ž¢«»¬ï°© you god is denial and he doent get it!   [End]
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You abviously are the exception to that old adage, as your posts become less coherant as time goes on and your critiques are becoming less witty and more feeble!   [End]
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You can hide behind your god for only so long ! There are those with eyes and the ability to look at the past and come to the conclusions that people like mntn spew are charming to some and toxic to society! You can take some benevolent stand and claim to be all excepting of other peoples viewpoints only to a certain point! Then you realize they are the enemy in sheeps clothing ! Call it hate I could care less you can love your enemy and preach all you want about being open to others but the reality is if you dont take a stand you are part of the problem! If its hate or digust it is t ...
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Your getting closer! intelligent design= the nature of a tree, a Sunami tidal wave . The collaboration of natural forces! You can put a label on these things and call them god or the buddha nature or just natural intelligent selection! Some men call them selves prophets some are wise some are foolish! Do you act according the intelligent design of nature or the foolish ego controlled fear of nature! Do you try to control nature or do you try to live in nature are you seperate from all that is real or are you god too!   [End]
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Your getting closer! intelligent design= the nature of a tree, a Sunami tidal wave . The collaboration of natural forces! You can put a label on these things and call them god or the buddha nature or just natural intelligent selection! Some men call them selves prophets some are wise some are foolish! Do you act according the intelligent design of nature or the foolish ego controlled fear of nature! Do you try to control nature or do you try to live in nature are you seperate from all that is real or are you god too!   [End]
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You obviously waited in reply to my response never even reading it before you posted your preprinted post! You think a hundred thousand words is science, no clue to the realities of the corporate scam to fool people and mother nature ! Yuo are too far gone to reason with , you think the larger and more tedious your response is the more it validates itself! I asked you for an honest and personal response to my post and you filled the page up with propaganda that is of no value to those who have become aware of the profit making intention of the corporate world ,in fact you are so enamored ...
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I support the free discussion of these products pro or con! But I dont support the corporate abuses of Mannotech or the rip off markup by MLM spammer scammers! Your constant attacks on people who question these relatively new products or the recipe of Mr.Bird! have just as much right to voice thier opinion if not more then someone who is only here for profit! You cannot use the freeenterprize excuse or the establishment studies as ligitemate! This is peoples lives and well being we are talking about not a new car or a pair of shoes! Most of the people who are here at Curezone have m ...
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I know you believe this is your forum to use anything you want but its not! In most forums any solicitation is considered spam ! Why this continuing carnival barking is allowed is beyond me! Unless there is a pay off of some kind! Its the only forum allowed to post continuous salespitches and false advertisiments! Its funny now you are trying say you did not say the things you did! Sorry its all here in black and white! I saw no humor in any of your post only condesending remarks cuttng down anything other than the support of Maniatech ! You personal attacks on me only prove my point! ...
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I have heard great things about cabbage juice or broth and licorice as Claudio states in he link below! Soups and broth can me very nourishing and helpful! plus plenty of water ! G http://curezone.com/forums/f.asp?f=104&t=47594   [End]
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Hi Sweet pea! Yes believe it or not alcohol relieves the sypmtoms of gallstone it allows bile to flow! I myself did not reailize I had gallstone until I quit drinking! As far as the ulcer goes or heartburn mine went away after I gave up drinking! But i will help you look into a natural protocal for ulcers which may be something other the ulcers but an over acid stomach ! let me know what your diet is like now and maybe I can help you that way! I would imagine plenty of good clean water would help to relive the dehydation you suffer from after years fo drinking! great to hear of your suc ...
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Then maybe thats what you should do instead of defending the corrupt tion of mannotech, this is not a support forum for mannotech and it has been hyjacked by mannotech sales people who have no other interest except selling your overpriced products! you nor the guy who hasnt even the creativity to have a decent user names but calls himsef by the product you hawk! In affect a posting billboard. I believe you yourself have belittled curezone and its protocal makin fun of lthe liver gallbladder flushes, demeaning the use of Vitamin C and other protocal here at Curezone ,so i know your inter ...
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I see they supply you with volumes of pulp fiction to spread your bunk! I bet you could fill up this whole page with it! Has that familiar smell of mass production on it! but dont you think all this protest on your part only make you look the fool ! thou does protest too much me thinks! If you where so sure of Mannotechs great reputation you wouldnt have to defend it so rabidly! Are your superiors getting on your back for failing so miserably at defending them! Give me Libby Libby anyday , she was miles above you two in her ability to promote the company agenda! You two are wore thin a ...
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here comes the personal attacks ! Your anger must be proof that your glconutrients dont work!   [End]
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here comes the personal attacks ! Your anger must be proof that your glconutrients dont work!   [End]
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Ya the post was an obvious plant and its only purpose was to confuse and instill fear of anything other then the military indroctrination of the established medical quacks! They live in fear of being exposed and so use that fear to control thought by placing doubt and confusion in the publics mind ! They truly are desperate and losing the battle for support of the barbaric and unscientific methods! Truth is their biggest enemy !   [End]
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Those studie are more than likely meant to decieve ! The study on beta carotine was definately brought to the public eye in this manpulated manner ! What is ommitted in these studies or what they dont tell, often is enought to camoflage the real outcome of them! In the beta carotine study what they dont tell you and is typicle of how the establishment decieves, is the important yet ommitted fact that those who actually did worse had also been previously diagnosed with asbestos poisoning! With that in mind you can obviously concur that the rest of these studies have been falsified in one ...
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Well your first job it seems is convincing him to do something about his disease! Just diet is a very good start elminate all foods that kill like sugar which feeds cancer and process foods. The best and easisist form of starting the healing process is I believe magadoses of vitamin C something everybody has heard of and a really good quality mutivitimin /mineral suppliment! These are baby steps just like you are asking for but good ones with good studies to back them up! Grog   [End]
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Just a small tip, but whatever you decide I would go with the complete protocal of the one you chose wether it be Andreas’ or Dr Schultz or Hulda Clark ! Follow thier guidelines and get most of your info from them! To try to use what ever you feel good about and ignore the total protocal will only confuse you and the results you will be getting! And If your not sure where to start ,don’t, read some more and take your time making the right decision! Good Luck ! Grog   [End]
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There are tons of independent studies showing what cancer is and how to deal with it other then Hulda Clarks, the net is filled with them just place cancer+alternative therapies in a search engine and you will come up thousands of responses! Here is just one link listed below! You have the power at your finger tips, research and be persistent and you should be able to come up with enough info to convince any one who is not totally conditioned by the media and the medical establishment which is responsible for three quarters of a million deaths each year, many of them through the treatments ...
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Christian Killers? By Laurence M. Vance LewRockwell.com 12-2-4 There is no doubt that many of the soldiers responsible for the recent death and destruction in Fallujah are Christians. And there is no doubt that many Americans who call for more death and destruction in Iraq and elsewhere are Christians as well. Christian Killers. The phrase should be a contradiction in terms. If someone referred to Christian adulterers, Christian drug addicts, Christian prostitutes, Christian pimps, Christian gan ...
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Why does Mh need a public defender team ! I know this post will be deleted but so should your posts for jumping on any poster who disagrees with with Mh ! Ya dont dis MH the forum swat team will jump all over you and then delete you! Mh claims that his methods are unique and not in the mainsream of course, but not to be able to question him is just as despotic as the establishment docs! Your cry that the fda and the establishment are after him so dont dare challenge him is nonsense! Let the flow of dialogue be what it may, you are or should be mature enough to handle the tough questions i ...
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total true Bush, Bush x 1.04x (.04 is a random number)(total true Kerry), total true Bush”. The second part of the equation takes the total number of votes cast and subtracts the new Bush total, subtracts the third party totals and leaves the rest for Kerry. Sometimes the program would also reduce third party votes and award them to Bush. And even where Bush legitimately won, he was still awarded additional votes. The big Democratic counties (Broward for example) went to Kerry because it had to appear that everything was on the up and up. It’s interesting to see this unfold. Does an ...
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Hi Kathryn ! Glad your still hangin in there! Too bad you did’nt pop in for the few minutes Wrenns post, one of the few good moderators left, was up before it was deleted, it was an apology and an explanation that stated you where indeed a moderator of the forum ”Just For the fun of it”! These posts by Wrenn, here at the web mastres,uhg! And at another forum ! They where only up for a few minutes and some disagreable censorator deleted them! I really cant figure out why they have it in for you! But you must must have offended them for callin it as you see it! One of the Mods posted that we ...
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lol !!!!!!!!! whew! thats the funniest thing I.ve heard in along time!   [End]
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Well thats great , now you can concentrate on your penis enlargement attempts and promote your other hero John Holmes the male p 0 r n star with the big 12 incher! Something you know a lot about! Politics is not your forte, you only made a fool of yourself over here in this forum! But you did supply a barrel of laughs and buckets of mud! Although I feel sorry for the people in the sex forum who go there for serious answers only to find ridicule and snickers from a p 0 r n star wannabe from a shallow gene pool! Grits ya’ll!   [End]
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I understand and there is a problem if you have to have proof of treatment for insurance or work particulars ! But it can be done in a weening type of process not that I am suggesting that you should consider it at this point but for the sake of others ! I my self alowly decreased the amount and the type from hard alcohol to beer and such ! However I do realise that something like one in ten die from alclohol withdrawel ! So that must be taken into consideration! However I found that trying to do the same with painkillers was actually worse becoming addicted to them also ! I quit one ...
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Well then ,what do you eat on an average day?   [End]
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Au contrere, I believe marajuana helps expose the imbalanced mind and lets you know that something wrong is going on in your chemicle make up! Ususally a stressed adrenal which unrepaired leads to psychosis! Scientific studies that look at one small aspect of a persons history and excludes other influences like toxins in our food water and air! Another reason the establishment funds these studies to help discredit a true magical healing herb!   [End]
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I believe that is the big difference that devides theist and non theists! You claim mans thirst to worship is your driving force. A blind faith based belief that man is ignorant and not capable of aquiring his own true knowledge, a childlike and lazy mind that depends on despotic scripture to guide his life! Non theist have a thirst for knowledge, based on reason and the belief that man is capable of deciding the realities that exist in the world we live in and quides his life accordingly. I call it accountibilty. I, as a non theist take responsiblilty for my actions and their outcome ( ...
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Thank god Annuspooky, your scaring my cats!   [End]
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Well good luck ! the headaches aquired by dealing with institutions and the proffesionals hired to basically take the place of family and community are the very reasons I chose to take responsibilty for my own illnesses. The pain pills and the assistance used in these clinics is very temporary and non exsistent when it comes time to deal with what you still have to face when on your own ! It s sort of a prelude to recovery and a temporary delay to the task at hand! But for some it helps ! But i believe to except the assintance they say they offer winds up being just another bill to dea ...
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The belittlement of the working class is usually the first step in enforcing fascism in a country! The idea that some franchise manager is anything more then a straw boss with a horses ass mentality is also part of the chickens shit attitude of the beourgioses, they try to forre these images of disdain on the very people who made this country strong, who defend it and who stand up to the forced consensis of those who spew certain demeaning concepts to build up their lower then life attitude about who is in control! The middle class who embrace these concepts also soon find they have become ...
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Oh sorry I dont remeber numbers so I ass umed you where dung wood! Yoou can use a nic for a user name, numbers are like a pssing thought and I dont pay much attn. to who they are!   [End]
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Neo-Nazism in the USA In the USA, broad freedom of speech allows political organizations great latitude in expressing Nazi, racist or anti-Semitic ideology. Several White supremacist or white separatist groups share large parts of their ideology with Nazism. The federal government generally cracks down on such organizations only after members engage in hate crimes and violence. Organizations that describe themselves as being ’Neo-Fascist’ and/or ’Neo-Nazi’ or do not object to the label include; * NSDAP-AO * The Ku Klux Klan * American Nazi Party * National Allia ...
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Neo-fascism Where It Comes From January 25, 1981 The U.S. working class should not fall prey to the deadly illusion that the reemergence of the Ku Klux Klan and the growth of fascist violence in widely separated areas of the country is a fleeting, momentary phenomenon, soon destined to sink into oblivion as conditions rapidly change. This very attractive if not alluring prognosis can only disarm the broad mass of the people and subject them to the kind of passivity in the face of danger which can only lead to catastrophe. This conception of the menace of KKK ...
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Swine like you two, who would be (and are) wollowing in your own fecal matter if it was’nt for people like me! If you think for one minute I am ashamed at being a plumber yout both are a couple of sick turds! The most disgusting and burdonsome people on this planet are people like you two! Mtnn of puke a parasite on society whose best attribute is hocking pizza at some digusting little crap hole and paper pushing resourse sucking bottom feeders are the main problem with society ! You have no real product nor do you supply any real service to society ! You just suck suck suck! Sit on you h ...
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Hot tub, lol! cheap sheek, middle class stew pot, filled with fecal matter and dead skin! As a plumber I know how nasty hot tubs are ! Either you are stewing in fecal matter of your own and any guest who has dropped by to take a leak or scrub thier root out and left it just for you or the chemicals you need to disinfect it enough to kill the bacteria makes it little more than toxic cocktail! lol! yes, mntnn of sludge, enjoy your hot tub, a just reward for an alliance with ignorance!   [End]
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An exceptible term ,used to describe ”talk” and /or personal opinion of a post you disagree with here at curezone!   [End]
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You could take a lesson from Jawg, Mntnn of poor taste! The elections are over and your still trying to win it in peoples minds because you yourself know they didnt win like a man. They had to cheat and the whole world knows it, except for a few ignorant ones and those who are bought and paid for! Poor winners and cheaters gloat. I think in this election everyone lost, especially the character and the respect we used to have as a country! You and people like you have brought great shame to our shorelines and I think its just the beginning of a downhill spiral we may never recover from! Th ...
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What happened to all the clever cliches, laughter, and rude advice?   [End]
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you called me Grog ! Oh lighten up Im just tryin to get to know you! Its lonely out here! I are grog I come from the depths of hell ! But i rise to a higher light still guided by sound nnd smell I glide along alone in orbit on an unending sojourn from the deepest darkest parts of hell onto the highest lights where the spectered cosmos dwell I are Grog I seen you before and I know your smell! ©†ƒ……•™¼‡_Original_Message_¾€š½ž¢«»¬ï°© you called me Grog ! Oh lighten up Im just tryin to get to know you! Its lonely out here! I are grog I come from the depths of hell ! But i rise to a high ...
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who says im pissed off! I are grog, troll slayer ! what is your purpose! beside name callin! remember the eye the eye is always there you can’t see the eye but the eye sees you!   [End]
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Ya thats what i want ot know too! Just come on in mr.counts pull up a chair and put everybody down! Oh yah theres the door ,whats your hurry!   [End]
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for they fade away ! then you won’t be able to run and play! knock knock! who’s there ? Anu ! Anu who? Anu come out and play? lololololololololololololololol! I cracks me up!   [End]
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Remove all toxins from your environment ,including people! The in your face tough love crap is from the 70s time to move on! If they are not interested in adapting to new ideas and concepts and live in the past they become part of his problems! But he has to deal with these problems as they arise ! If he is willing to sit down and talk to you and is really trying to change, then worn out baggage only slows you down! He can address the family issue after his recovery if he still wants to! Things that make you weak or confused just aggravate the situation! I do understand how upse ...
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If Annanookkies incessant posting does anything besides its supposed intention of informing, it does blur any real issues others try to make available in this forum! It in affect making any other post scroll down the page and out of sight in no time at all! A tactic or just an inconsideration? Who Knows? Only the anoonooky knows! http://curezone.com/forums/m.asp?f=49&i=1778   [End]
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I can’t say that there is specific support group like you describe! However you seem to be the one who might be able to help him the most! By understanding what he is going through! If he is still functioning in society ,workplace etc, and is not ill or on a self destructive down spiraling path and realises he needs to quite he is capable of quiting on his own self determination! This is of course not an approved or scientific method ,as if there is one ,but many others have done just that! First he must realise he is dealing with a powerful addictive drug alcohol and the physical and ...
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If mh is such an honorable old soul ,why does he need henchmen like your self to promote and defend him! I once again question the purpose for such an obvious team effort to attack those who disagree with hime by both those who arrived about the same time as him and the atrosciuos support from moderation! The name calling of curezone users that goes beyond what is tolerable of anyone but you who support him and the moderations rhetoric that others would have been banned for! Over the top moderation and false information , a team to clear the way and defend is more then just suspiscious b ...
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So! only read the last part of your prescriptd post you are getting close if you understand the words!   [End]
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Not true ! Do you know how to read or just cut and paste! You dont have a clue what atheism is , do you? Do you understand the words that you post? If your response to my post is what you posted below you either did not read it or you cant read it! ©†ƒ……•™¼‡_Original_Message_¾€š½ž¢«»¬ï°© Not true ! Do you know how to read or just cut and paste! You dont have a clue wht atheism is , do you? Do you understand the words that you post? If you responce to my post is what you posted below you either did not read it or you cant read it!   [End]
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Elizibeth! That is fantastic! wow! Well if you can do it for six days you can do it forever! Thanks for letting us know and keep us posted! Congratulations! Feel free to e mail me if you need a shoulder to lean on! Groggy   [End]
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I posted this in the Conspiracy forum. I feel it applies to religious as well as governmental and/or the corporate worlds attempts to coerce those who queston them or appose their domination in every aspect of our lives! Grog The Delphi Technique to Achieve Consensus How it is leading us away from representative government to an illusion of citizen participation The Delphi Technique and consensus building are both founded in the same principle - the Hegelian dialectic of thesis, antithesis, and synthesis, with synthesis becoming the new thesis. The goal is a continual evolutio ...
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The abuse of despotic evil men and the governments they hijack have through history used religion or any other excuse then can to do their dirty deeds and its true that communist and their persicution of religion is an evil disgusting perversion of any government! The asault on those for thier personal beliefs is exactly what those who fear atheism try to accomplish in these modern days of so called religious tolerance ! I promise as an athiest I will cause you no harm if you make the same claim ! What is happening in China and what happened in Russia is another basterdization of what any ...
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Its ok I know your intentions were good and just wanted to insill good debate! However certain posters do not want a real debate and just use this forum as an excuse to push there religions on us who chose to keep an open mind and guestion the same old tired retoric of the past! Hope you continue to post here! Grog   [End]
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Kathryn! Hi ! Im glad your are still tuning in after the treatment you received here! Put please stay, we need you more than ever now! I believe your honesty and forthright nature is exactly what Curezone needs for those who come here for the help they required that was not provided to them from the medical community. For some this is their last resort and personal agendas and ego infested moderation will only chase people away who need what Curezone has to offer more then ever! So please reconsider and stay with us. Grog   [End]
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Hi Joyce! Wow that is promising news, I did not realize LDN had the potential to restore the immune system to normal function! I can see now why you are so excited about these results,thats fantastic! With such exciting results from this treatments is there a study anywhere that helps explain the mechanism behind them? I and I’m sure many others would be interested in understanting how this process works. It seems obvious that restoring the immune system to normal could have great potential to deal with many diseases and disorders to say the least.I am amazed that mainstream medicine has ...
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Hi Joyce! Remember me Grog? I have not seen you around for a while, glad to see your up and at em! Just wondering if you have ever tried some of the protocal here at Curezone like we talked about ! Seems some are having great success with their MS symptoms through the detoxifying procees as we had talked about a while ago . Just curious, and Im happy ot hear others are having success with these low dosage therapies you are so enthused about! But and no offense intended but I still believe that although Naltrexone is effective in reducing the painful and disabilitating affects of MS it h ...
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I see you agree with bt ! It seems those who question you and mh are somehow fearful to you and to endore bt’s accusations is what i expected from one of his followers!   [End]
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btturcott says, Big Pharma and the FDA have used tactics like some here have choosen to employ against MH since the very beginning of their existances to discredit doctors and new unregulated treatments. Its incredible really. If you can’t discuss/argue your points or convince the man or those reading the argument that your way is the best way then do whatever you can to discredit him. Scare people from even wanting to investigate what it is MH has to teach. Why point out the falicy in his research or presentation when it is so much easier and so much more effective to just sling mud. ...
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you just gave the go ahead to every evangelizing self appointed preacher on the net to proselitize from here to hell! geesh us h crist! and this advocate of idiocy will take it the fool tilt ! blah blah frikkin blah!   [End]
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webmaster ignore alert it was an accident! sorry! Grog ©†ƒ……•™¼‡_Original_Message_¾€š½ž¢«»¬ï°© webmaster ignore alert it was an accident! sorry! Grog   [End]
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Ya know I think ff was right ! You are just a kid pretending to be an adult!   [End]
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Contrivance ! Anyone can make up a story to support there dogma and force others to take it serious by constant harrassment and belittling them for refusing to indulge in such fallacious material. Of course made up by those who wish to force thier opinions on others! Its done all the time! Especially by fanatical religious zealots! I can see through your trickery its a thin as depression stew ! Bsides not playing games with someones preshuffled deck is something I learned a long time ago and I know how effectively it frustrates those who have no other recourse but to use stale bread as a ...
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the cowardly hide and send in the numbers to hide his rage and his ignornt fumbles makes up lil tales to hide that hes failed and to ride those who shows hes disrailed he moans and he cries to hide his suprise when he finds all the lies he was told as child are all dead so he tries to forget and tries to pretend that you cant see his little brown head with his cowardly number the one he hides under he whines and he cries and complains and follows white balls that fall in black holes a great place to hide his brown Head   [End]
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the cowardly hide and send in the numbers to hide his rage and his ignornt fumbles makes up lil tales to hide that hes failed and to ride those who shows hes disrailed he moans and he cries to hide his suprise when he finds all the lies he was told as child are all dead so he tries to forget and tries to pretend that you cant see his little brown head with his cowardly number the one he hides under he whines and he cries and complains and follows white balls that fall in black holes a great place to hide his brown Head   [End]
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The Delphi Technique to Achieve Consensus How it is leading us away from representative government to an illusion of citizen participation The Delphi Technique and consensus building are both founded in the same principle - the Hegelian dialectic of thesis, antithesis, and synthesis, with synthesis becoming the new thesis. The goal is a continual evolution to ”oneness of mind” (consensus means solidarity of belief) -the collective mind, the wholistic society, the wholistic earth, etc. In thesis and antithesis, opinions or views are presented on a subject to establish views and opposi ...
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You get sillier by the minute! No body takes you serious. Your demands for an answer only makes me laugh Stop your incessent complaining and whining, if you are just trying to start something you do have a serious problem ! I f you think waving you tongue at us and repeating what people said is provacative your wrong! You have to earn peoples respect before they take you serious! You act like your gonna convert somebody and score some brownie points here ! If people dont want to answer your posts and ignore you thats there privelage! Annoying people and provoking with patronizing silly ...
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All in all another good story made up by a man, exactly like christianity! You guys are very good story tellers! A silly story to suppress reality and to support another silly story! ©†ƒ……•™¼‡_Original_Message_¾€š½ž¢«»¬ï°© All in all another good story made up by a man, exactly like christianity! You guys are very good story tellers! And this is more of the same patronizing passive aggressiveness that is not needed in a support forum! A silly story to suppress reality and to support another silly story!   [End]
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Your posts just keep getting lamer by the moment! Who in the hell is stopping you from worshipping your style of religion ! The ignorance of that statement is mind boggling! You who have forced your way to every doorstep on this continent that doesnt have a locked gate and guard dogs, you who condemn those who do not do as you say ! This hypocrasy and harrassmnet of yours is as much humorous as it is rediculous! Go away and tend your sheep!   [End]
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Yes its hard to evolve even spiritually when you are put in a spiritual box, such as religion has done! Evolution as a species is only necassary to adapt to your surroundings. The human species great success in our physical environment is no longer necassary. However this great success has caused us to dominate our environement to the point of our own detriment. Our spiritual evolution however is necessary to awaken us to the fact that the laws of survival must include a more encompassing view and the connection between our continued success includes nurturing our environment as apposed ...
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All in all another good story made up by a man, exactly like christianity! You guys are very good story tellers! And this is more of the same patronizing passive aggressiveness that is not needed in a support forum! A silly story to suppress reality and to support another silly story!   [End]
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I agree and I hope you posted the counterpart to this point on the Christian fundamentalist forum! This forum grew out of sort of a self defense effort to embrace those folks who are muffled through out the general populace at large and the oppressive nature of extreme fundamentalism ! And even here we are attacked in a very passive agressive way! To be able ot speak up about your own inner beliefs is part of a self help effort that all peoples should be able to express and feel they have a voice also! Many people have live under the mind/soul stifling influence of certain religions a ...
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I would ask him what he thinks of those who use his name to justify war and the killing of innocent women and children!   [End]
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Kathryn, there is no blame in seeking truth! If you feel lies are being passed of as truth ,what else would an honest and caring person do ! Turning your back would have only made you feel even more remorseful ! Thank you for your concern and forthrightness! Grog   [End]
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If a blind eye is commendable then I congradulate you! if seeking truth is disgusting then let it be so!   [End]
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Mother of 4! Thank you ! I, like you, was drawn into the contentious nature of swing and should have not included you in my reference to unnessacary cut and paste scripture! At least when you do its not meant to be offensive and usually you are just defending your beliefs. I myself welcome your posts here at anytime, and apologise if I have offended you! Peace and Love! Grog ©†ƒ……•™¼‡_Original_Message_¾€š½ž¢«»¬ï°© Mother of 4 IThank you ! I, like you was drawn into the contentious nature of swing and should have not included you in my reference to unnessacary cut and paste scripture! ...
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I m not sure why and never looked into it but I believe that flax does not flush the liver! Although it has other benefits and besides Udos Blend having flax in its ingredients I would avoid a blended oil if nothing else so you know what works best for you! I agree with Ptree and like her idea about the clear colored or amber colored oils!   [End]
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Mh seems to have some very questionable information spread all over these forums ! I would think anyone would want to get to the bottom of this potential to disinform and ultimately cause setbacks and misdirect people in their persuit of health! Why would anyone want to slow or stop the wheels of truth to protect an unkown person from accomplishing these dirty deeds! Especially those who are supposed to watch over and keep an eye out for these types of posters? I find this quite unsettling!!!!   [End]
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You have to be kidding! Mainstream health! lol! What does that mean! The allopaths who create thier own psuedo science to protect their monetary interests! Do you think they would have anything unbiased to say about an herbalist who heals and keeps them from profiting from there agenda to reap the profits of lifetime treatments ! You are kidding right?   [End]
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exactly what does this klaptrap mean! explain these seemingly offensive remarks and with out hiding once again behind scripture! ©†ƒ……•™¼‡_Original_Message_¾€š½ž¢«»¬ï°© exactly what does this klaptrap mean! explain these seemingly offensive remarks and with out hiding once again behind scripture!   [End]
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Well Mr Swing ! With out getting into all the derogatory and negitive remarks, let me say Im not able to answer your question ” Am I an atheist”! The question itself brings to many variables into consideration! Let me say I respect religions or religious people who follow the tenets of the golden rules without exception! Those tenets include war as murder and the abuse of scripture as a lever to make consessions for the lack of common sense or to circumvent the tenets of the golden rules! Perhaps if you would answer my question first , I would be able to answer yours! My question would ...
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Sorry for your pain Kathryn ! But your right , something is rotten in denmark! Thanks for your concern for keeping Curezone honest! I suppose if this guy MH is who he says he is the search for truth that is going on now will expose this for us sooner or later! I have a feeling sooner then we think! Thank you once again ! Grog   [End]
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Ah passive aggression well disquised has a bitter flavor also! Hmmm what camp is this coming out of! This is getting interesting !   [End]
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Yes it seems you have a total blind devotion to this mh and appeared at the same time he a several others supporters of his, very interesting indeed! ©†ƒ……•™¼‡_Original_Message_¾€š½ž¢«»¬ï°© Yes it seems you have a total blind devotion this mh and appeared at the same time he a several others supporters of mh, very interesting indeed!   [End]
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MH ,who exactly gave you this huge list of forums to look over? That would be interesting to know, very interesting indeed!   [End]
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Oh Kathryn, I never meant you and if its just once in a while I have no problem with them! But its just how some people can be sort of disengenuous with them and over do them! I know that you are, if anything, genuine! No need to apologize, Your friend, Grog ©†ƒ……•™¼‡_Original_Message_¾€š½ž¢«»¬ï°© Oh Katherine, I never meant you and if its just once in a while I have no problem with them! But its just how some people can be sort of disengenuous with them and over do them! I know that you are, if anything, genuine! No need to apologize, Your friend, Grog http://www.curezone.com/forum ...
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Oh Kathryn, I never meant you and if its just once in a while I have no problem with them! But its just how some people can be sort of disengenuous with them and over do them! I know that you are, if anything, genuine! No need to apologize, Your friend, Grog ©†ƒ……•™¼‡_Original_Message_¾€š½ž¢«»¬ï°© Oh Katherine, I never meant you and if its just once in a while I have no problem with them! But its just how some people can be sort of disengenuous with them and over do them! I know that you are, if anything, genuine! No need to apologize, Your friend, Grog   [End]
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I agree katherine, he acts in a very authoritative manner and I would like to know who he is talking about and who sent him here to check us out? http://curezone.com/forums/m.asp?f=400&i=235   [End]
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MH ,who exactly gave you this huge list of forums to look over? That would be interesting to know if not shocking!   [End]
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Perhaps there could be a trash forum where all these deleted messages can be reviewed for reference!   [End]
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Yes excellent, I like the way this is moderated , instead of just delteing the whole message! Very good Moderation! Thanks!   [End]
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I’ll have a little faith when the professional elitist medical snobs reduce the three quarters of a million american deaths they are responsible for! I ’ll have a little faith when the medical communty stops pumping toxic vaccines down the mouths of our children and elderly! I’ll have a little faith when these self appointed gods come down to earth and allow patient input and act human enough not to stare bullets through you when you dare to call one by thier first names! I ’ll have a little faith when you go to them for a problem and they stop reaching for thier prescription pad before ...
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How can you tell its female! And look at that goofy thing, it doesnt have a nose! lol!   [End]
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some poster lose control with them! then the hypocrasy of a negative response and behind that some a canary eatin grin! no thanks and all the cutsie goofy baby doll stufff! Er! yuk! so childish!   [End]
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Oh no! lol! But I must confess Millie I have used the power of the no vote against you a few times! However it is devisive and nonconsructive, methinks! I love the ”edit your message” though and used it almost all the time, my spelling is quite attroeshush! lol!   [End]
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I always wonder how it worked anyways when this post of mine shows where two out of one persons voted for it! lol! I personally wish Curezone would take care of the problem of having to relog in constantly! ©†ƒ……•™¼‡_Original_Message_¾€š½ž¢«»¬ï°© I always wonder how it worked anyways when this post of mine where two out of one persons voted for it! lol! I personally wish Curezone would take care of the problem of having to relog in constantly! http://curezone.com/forums/m.asp?f=264&i=2488   [End]
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I agree! I protested from the beginning, then thought it might help to expose the forum trolls or slow them down, but it obviously has not done that, it seems it is just used as a personal punching bag by some!   [End]
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Im glad to see the establishment is at least aware of the failures of cut burn and drug! But I wonder how far they persue alternatives before they ultimately revert to the barbian use of the knife? I mean is not the oncologist by definition the expert of lump extraction? And if he doesnt is not his liscense in jeopardy? Or his exile emminent also? ©†ƒ……•™¼‡_Original_Message_¾€š½ž¢«»¬ï°© Im glad to see the establishment is at least aware of the failures of cut burn and drug! But I wonder how far they persue alternatives before they ultimately revert to the barbian use of the knife? I ...
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Schwang69 ,should’nt you be tending one of your 10or12 prepubescant brides! Or is Jack helping out! Talk abour head up a pigs rear!   [End]
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Ah the cowardy numbered swine spreading his manure! Hides behind a number and cheap pigdung cliches!   [End]
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Im all ears ! Count me in! Grog ” Namo Amitabha Buddha”   [End]
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Racist Spacist. Grog, no man I’m not a racist. I have never been a racist and do not want to start being a racist. I love all people in all parts of the world. All different colors and creeds and shapes and sizes. The referrence to the Brown Head has to do with where individuals have there heads. If one has his head jammed into his back side. I guaranteeth that it will turn brown. Thus when I read your responce to my post below it prompted me to ask the question is your head brown because there certainly did not seem to be much thought put into your post. It was like you had tunnel vision ...
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Your under wear is showing foo! Again you are out of touch! This post by ff had nothing to do with you! And what the hell is a brownhead, are you a racist also?   [End]
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lol not a question at all ! It was a reply to a troll who has had his blather deleted! Where did you see a question in all that! Maybe there should be a forum for people who have to add ’ith’ to every other word, as ifith we livith in the ye ole days of oldith! Geesh! Does it make you feel holy or something to talk like thatith? Geeshith! lol!   [End]
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My life is not as intense as this one, lol. Slightly strange at times. Mostly I just have a sense about people.   [End]
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Joyce Elaine Morris I was born with a veil, a caul. In essence, that’s what my mother said. Some call it a cowl: others a cawl. This makes me special because of the call. Essentially, that’s what my mother said. At first, it did. I possess the gift. I know your future, I know your past. I see things that you cannot see Whether I want to or not. ”Blessed are the eyes which see The things that you see. Many prophets and kings have desired To see what you see.” Fundamentally, that’s what my mother read. Consecrated eyes witness your future; And, discerning eyes inspect your ...
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