”before anything you should adress the colon, its the only part of the body that comes in physical contact with what we eat.” I would be interested in knowing how you consume your food, meaning how you get it to enter your colon without touching any other body parts. I have many body parts that come in physical contact with what I eat - lips, tongue, teeth, throat, esophagus, stomach, duodenum, jejeunum, ileum, and then the colon. Good digestion is the key to a clean colon and toxin free body. Digestion starts in the mind, with the anticipation of good food. Each part of the di ...
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I read a post in another forum where the poster said she puts dryer sheets in every package of clothing or pillows that she sells. Perhaps that is what is happening to your packages as well. I can’t stand ANY strong smelling laundry product. I want to smell like myself and my fragrance of choice (if I choose to wear one), not like a laundromat!   [End]
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I had a horrific headache after a lengthy colonic last summer. Apparently we drowned a worm - we saw it flusing away in the colonic tubing the next day. I did not have any headache relief until we flushed that sucker out of my body. You want to get the dead critters out as quickly as possible. So try some epsom salts, or Oxypowder or whatever else you have on hand to flush your bowels. Be sure to eat/drink alkalizing foods, such as fresh squeezed lemon juice or apple cider vineagar and be sure to drink a lot of pure water. Hope you feell better soon.   [End]
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When you say nothing is happening, what do you mean by that? Most parasites are microscopic and you will not see them. Are you using any type of bowel cleanser with the Humaworm? Have you done any prior parasite or bowel cleansing? One thing I have noticed is that since taking the Humanworm, by body has quickly become acidic. The drop in pH started after the first day. I test my urine and saliva and saw a huge drop in the pH since starting Humaworm. I’m attibuting the acidity to parasite die off and have been counterbalancing the pH with lemon water and ACV. After 3 days on the ...
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I find the Humaworm easier to digest. I’m on day 5 of Humaworm at the moment. It seems to be having more of an effect than the Paranil as well. I like the Colonix program and am using the fiber mix. I did three months of the Colonix program last year and am doing one month of it now, with the parasite capsule switch.   [End]
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My husband and I both get severe headaches from Febreeze as well as the commercial room deodorizers and air fresheners and overly strong candles. Essential oils can be perfume grade (usually made with a chemical solvent) or medical grade. With the increased popularity of aromatherapy, there are a lot of poor quality products on the market. I was taught that perfume or cologne is to be worn such that it is only noticed by someone in close physical proxmity. Too many people are putting on too much fragrance - you can smell them before they arrive and for a long time after they’ve left. ...
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Both products are good. They have different actions on the body. I use the Colonix program at least once a year for a good cleanse of the lower intestine. The Colonix program also contains some herbs to help cleanse the liver and kidneys. Oxypowder just flushes the intestinal tract. I use Oxypowder to clear out both the small and large intestine prior to and just after a liver flush so that the stones don’t get stuck. That means three days of Oxypowder at sufficient dosage to produce liquid eliminations prior to the liver flush, and then as many days as needed afterwards until no more ...
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Are you having bowel movements and eliminating or are you backed up? I’ve seen a few posts where first time users have had distension (bloating) problems the first time they used an oxygen cleaner because they were eliminating fast enough. If that is happening to you, you could try doing an enema to get things moving at the bottom of the pipe.   [End]
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The colonix program is primarily a colon, or large intestine cleanse, with some kidney and liver cleansing herbs included. The small intestine includes the duodenum, jejeunum and ileum, which have more of a digestive function. The colon has more of an absorption function. Psyllium fiber products are more effective for cleaning the colon. The psyllium will stick to the walls of the colon, moisten and loosen up the ”toxic wallpaper” that is stuck there. I use Oxypowder a few days a month, and especially after a liver flush. I do one colonix kit a year for the extra fiber scrub.   [End]
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Some folks will drink the recommended amount of water in large portions, which then acts as a diuretic because it is more water than the body can handle at one time. It is important that you not drink a lot of water just before a meal, and wait an hour or so after eating before drinking water. This is to avoid diluting your stomach’s digestive juices. The instructions that come with the colonix kit tell you to drink a glass of water after you drink the fibre drink. That can be too much at one time for some folks (like me!). I wait about 20 minutes after the fibre drink and then drink ...
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agree with hanna that the colonzone website is a bit overly strong in their opinion. Many people have benefited from the Colonix program and have not had problems after discontinuing its use. The folks at Dr. Natura do not recommend using the kit for multiple months after the initial cleanse. If one is doing the initial 2-3 month colonix cleanse, there is a break in between kits where one is taking the fiber only, and not using the tea. It is also important to note that the colonix kit uses senna in an infusion form only. The senna is not ingested as a whole powdered herb, which has ...
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The first week on the Colonix program is the ”hump” week. You body is getting accustomed to the additional fiber and cleansing and you need to get used to drinking enough water throughout the day. I became constipated on day three of the first week and had to brew a stronger Kleritea that evening. The folks I know who reported cramping were not drinking enough water, or were drinking too much at once and just peeing it out. Try to drink about 1/2 cup of water every 30 - 40 minutes, except around mealtimes. Just keep your water bottle with you and drink some consistently through the day.
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hanna, did you order any of this product to try?   [End]
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Your colon may be to dry, or your digestion to weak. I did the Colonix program for two months, and have recommended it to over twenty friends and colleagues who have used it successfully. I will say that the first week or so is something of a ”hump” week. By that I mean, learning how it works with your body. You do need to drink lots of water when using a psyllium type bowel cleanser. It’s important not to drink the water in large amounts, all at once, or you will just pee it out and then some. You might try drinking 1/2 cup of water every 30-40 minutes throughout the day. Also, be ...
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If you drink to much water at once, it acts as a diuretic and you will pee it out along with more water from your tissues. It is better to drink smaller amounts of water more frequently and evenly throughout the day, than a lot of water all at once. It is also important not to drink too much water with a meal and to wait about an hour and a half after eating to drink more water so that you don’t disrupt your digestion.   [End]
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Please read up on the diseases, symptoms to watch for, and have a treatment plan for how to take care of your child if you decide to participate in a measles party or similar (and please, only ONE disease exposure and full recovery at a time!). You need to plan on being home with your child while the disease runs its course and have a health care practitioner (naturpath, homeopath, even an ”old school” MD, etc) available to consult with. I had chicken pox, measles, mumps and rubella before first grade. My brother would get infected in kindergarten and bring it home to me. Other kids i ...
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Hair & eye colour can give some indication of the body’s constitution. From an ayurvedic perspective, light hair & eye colour in relation to one’s ethnic background is a sign of higher amounts of Pitta dosha in the constitution. Pitta people are more likely to form liver and gallstones.   [End]
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I am hoping that the liver flushing and liver herbs will help remove the cherry angiomas and additional moles that I developed as a result of Accutane. I have only done 6 flushes over an 18 month period, but plan to step up the pace this year.   [End]
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I used lemon juice for a liver flush once and found that the aciditiy was very harsh on my teeth. They were so sensitive I couldn’t chew anything for several days afterward.   [End]
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The only thing Splenda gets from sugar is the carbon molecule. It’s a hydrocarbon like DDT. Splenda breaks down into DDE, which is the same thing DDT turns into in your body. There is nothing healthy about this artificial sweetener. Stick with Stevia if you to avoid sugar for blood sugar management.   [End]
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The roots of constipation start higher up the pipe. Have you tried strengthening your digestion in the stomach by taking digestive enzymes with your meals? If your stomach is not secreting enough HCL to digest your food, you will have problems further down the pipe. HCL secretion is a parasympathetic response, which means you need to be reasonable relaxed at mealtimes for your stomach to work properly. If your liver and gallbladder are highly congested, in addition to not having enough HCL you may not be releasing enough bile and what little bile you are producing may be getting bound up ...
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Hi Corny, I also use Oxypowder for three days prior and after a liver flush. I take it at night for the three nights preceding the day of the liver flush to be sure that the pathway is clean when those stones come out. I don’t take any the night of the flush because I’m taking the epsom salts as part of the flush protocol. I then take Oxypowder each night afterwards until I see no more stones coming out, which usually takes three days on my system. The Oxypowder is less dehydrating for me. I usually do the liver flush on a Saturday night and usually don’t have time to do enemas during ...
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Your orginal question asked if Oxypowder was good for the day after cleanse, not in lieu of epsom salts during the flush. I DO use epsom salts, but limit the epsom salts to a weaker solution as part of the flush itself. I have also done a liver flush using coffee enemas to dilate the bile ducts. You’ve indicated that you are an ”exit only” kind of flusher so the coffee solution will probably not appeal. If the problem you are experiencing with epsom salts relates more to dehydration, you may want to prepare for the flush by drinking electrolyte water (The company that makes Emerg ...
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Amberlynn, did you drink any chilled liquids or eat any chilled foods before your liver flush? I passed large green , emerald like blobs after participating in a liver flush program at a place that only allowed chilled raw foods. It was a miserable experience that almost completely extinguished my digestive fire. I passed these large brilliant green blobs after their version of the liver flush. It is my opinion that these were blobs of gelled bile that resulted from chilling my liver. I have not passed anything like this in any liver flush since then. I have passed many of the tan, y ...
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I use Oxypowder for two days before the liver flush to get the pipes clean before I push out the stones. I then use it after the liver flush until I see no more stones coming out. Usually this takes two or three days. You’ll still need to be sure you drink ample amounts of water. I don’t find the Oxypowder as dehydrating as the epsom salts, but it does work along a similar principle of drawing water into the intestines to flush them out.   [End]
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Can you describe the appearance of your large green stones? Did you eat any chilled foods on the day of your flush (you mentioned fruit -was it chilled)? Last summer I did an ”in residence” liver flush at a place that claimed to be ayurvedically oriented and promoted Andreas’s book, giving the impression that we would use his method for the flush. I was dissappointed to find that the program was pretty much the opposite of all ayurvedic guidelines for health & eating, and the flush methond was not Andreas’s. We were only allowed chilled blended raw food drinks for three days prior t ...
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Staci, I’ve read on a few Curezone posts that the Hulda Clark method does not allow ANYTHING after 2pm. I use Andreas Mortiz’z liver flush technique and do drink water if I feel thirsty, up to an hour before the juice/oil mixture. So far I have not had any problem with nausea after the oil mixture as a result of having had the water. I do get very thirsty after the epsom salt drinks. My constitution has a high percentage of Vata (from ayurvedic perspective), which means I have a tendency towards dryness to begin with. I tried not drinking water after 2pm but found that I got headach ...
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Bromelain does indeed come from pineapples, however it is made from the stem, not the fruit. Bromelain is excellent for wound healing and is anti inflammatory. Canned pineapples do not have the active enzymes that fresh pineapples have. For those of us who were around in the ’50s & 60’s when desert was often Jello with pineapple chunks, it was well known that you had to use canned pineapple or your Jello would not setup. The enzymes in fresh pinapple would go to work and keep the mixture liquid.   [End]
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Both Colosan and Oxypowder are magnesium + oxygen type cleansers that release oxygen & draw water into the bowel to liquify the contents for cleansing, but the energetics are different. If I had tried Colosan first, I would probably not be using an oxygen type product. Colosan aggravated by Pitta, made it difficult to control my bowel movements and produced very acidic BMs. I also felt dehydrated using it. The Oxypowder produces liquid BMs that are easy for me to control and it seems to release more oxygen in by body than the Colosan does. The bentonite in a P&B shake is very ha ...
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There are many ways to do a ”salt water flush”. You will get the best help from others on Curezone if you describe the protocol you have followed. The link below for the short intestinal wash describes what I know as a salt water flush. You may have followed a different method. http://www.yahooyoga.com/yyh2b02.htm I usually find that vomitting occurs if one has too much salt in the water, or drinks too much salt water too quickly. I find that I need to drink some of the salt water, burp a little air out, then drink and burp, drink and burp. I usually need to run to the bathroom ...
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The enema kit from the Health & Yoga is great. The stainless steel bucket is 6 1/2 inches high and 5 3/4 inches in diameter. (don’t let the illustration fool you - that must be a very tiny stool that they show it sitting on). You can boil the bucket to sterilize it if you are so inclined. The enema catheters are much easier to use than the nozzle tips that come with standard rubber enema bags. It’s very small and flexible, which lets you get the tip farther up the colon than a hard plastic nozzle. Why is this important? The shorter nozzles often release the enema solution at a point ...
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.....then you can point the beam in the toilet bowl (from between your legs) before your wipe, and without having to get up. You’ll be able to see any stones etc that are floating. You can get a small flashlight for your purse or pocket if you want to check movements in a public toilet (stalls are private, no one needs to know). If you REALLY want to know what was in that liquid bowel movement you’ll need to put a colander in the toilet bowl first, to catch any solids. I’ve not yet felt the need to go the colander route. The flashlight shows me enough.   [End]
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Hi bigredd! I use both Colonix and Oxypowder (not at the same time though!). If you are getting liquid bowel movements, then the Oxypowder is working. I’ve only ever needed 8 capsules at the maximum, usually only 4 - 6 capsules, but I’ve read than some people have needed up to 20 capsules. I did the 7 day Oxypowder cleanse when I finished my Colonix kits and now only use it to flush before and after a liver flush. I tried the Colosan product too, but that does not work well for me (aggravates my Pitta). Others on Curezone prefer the Colosan product. Since the bowels need to be cle ...
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Hello all, Can someone help explain the difference in virgin and extra virgin coconut oil, and organic and inorganic, because it is confusing me :( Thanks!   [End]
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and cleanse the residue out of your system? Your liver can regenerate itself. The brain fog is closely related to toxins in the systems, especially the bowel, and to the impaired hormonal functioning from the accutane. In a ”post-Accutane body”, it’s important to cleanse gently and alternate cleansing with rebuilding.   [End]
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Hi Archus! Your latest description of looking ”pregnant” just set off my warning flags. My apologies for not reading all of your prior posts before responding. I misinterpreted your initial description. I thought you were putting on the ”spare tire” fat, eg, putting on excess fat more evenly around the mid section. High Pitta conditions can trigger fat accumulation around the middle. The high coritisol levels are a big part of it and the Tulsi tea will help. Starving yourself is not the answer though. You would want to eat a Pitta pacifying diet of cooling foods. If you are ...
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Anything sour can potentially aggravate the Pitta dosha in the body. Pitta primarily resident in the small intestine and liver. If someone were already suffering from a significant Pitta imbalance, sour tastes would not be advised. I have a significant amount of Pitta in my constitution and as a result, can not consume large amounts of citrus, such as drinking a full glass of orange juice, because it overheats my digestive tract (sour stomach, loose BMs). Lemons and citrus are healthy when taken in the proper amounts for one’s own constitution.   [End]
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The Colonix kit from DrNatura is an easy to use colon cleanse that includes an anti parasite component. Liver toxins can irritate the intestines. All the flushing may have aggravated things. Holy Basil will help to balance your cortisol levels. I’d recommend drinking 2 sups of Tulsi tea a day as well. http://www.drnatura.com/ http://www.omorganics.com/product_pages/teas.htm http://www.omorganics.com/tulsi_article.htm   [End]
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that’s why you had increased anxiety etc when you took the Solaray Skin formula. If you drink any herb teas with astrigent herbs in them, like hibiscus (Red Zinger etc), you will have a similar reaction. Given your history, it’s easy to see how Vata became aggravated in your system. I’d recommend working on calming Vata before your next liver flush. You may want to consider moving away from the raw food until Vata is back in balance since raw foods can also aggravate Vata, especially if you eat raw foods during the fall & winter or in cold climates. At least try to eat your raw foods ...
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Bentonite is very drying, which is why it is supposed to absorb toxins from the intestinal walls. Not everyone can use it. I find it too harsh. I think the bentonite may be the culprit rather than the psyllium, which is a demulcent. You need to be sure you are drinking enough water, and at the corrent times, with both of these ingredients though. I’ve used Oxypowder for pre and post liver flush cleansing and have done their recommended 7 day cleanse. I did not have any difficulty coming off of the Oxypowder after my cleanse. There are others on Curezone that seem to use it on a dail ...
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I’m sorry to hear that you had a bad experience with a detox program. It sounds like the program was too aggressive for your state of health. When someone tells me that they got very sick from a detox program I usually find that they tried to detox too quickly, eg, at a faster pace than their bodies could handle. It is very dissappointing to hear that this happened to you under the care of a health care professional. I would have expected your doctor to monitor your responses and alter the program as needed to prevent you from becoming depleted. Since this is support forum, not a de ...
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My mom is giving milkthistle to her senior dog based on her conventional vets recommendation. Her dog is of a breed prone to skin problems and the prednisone had created liver problems. The milk thistle is helping a lot. I use a holistic vet for my pets. He recommended I give a quarter tablet of Rainbow Light’s Milk Thistle formula to my cat when she got poisoned from the landscaping chemicals. My cat is an indoor cat. I take her for walks outdoors on a leash from time to time. I have no control over what chemicals are used in the commercial landscaping, so I have to keep her from e ...
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I take a course of liver building/protecting herbs such as milk thistle or schizandra with burdock or dandelion to help my liver rebuild itself (by generating new liver cells) and continue cleaning. I use the gold coin grass tincture or bhumyamalaki (chanca piedra) for two weeks before the actual flush since I prefer to have smaller or softer stones if possible. Still passed some big ones though. I did internal oleation (snehana) for a week before my third flush, which I believe helped by achieve a deeper flush (got into the gallbladder) on my third attempt. The oleation gradually bu ...
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I really appreciate the fact that his Liver Flush book takes into consideration what might ”go wrong” during a flush and tells you what to do about it. He offers alternate solutions for folks who can’t take the apple juice or epsom salts. I found the directions very clear and easy to follow. My flushes were very successful.   [End]
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Liver herbs generally fall into groups based on action - cleansing, building or protecting. Herbs like milk thistle protect liver cell integrity by stabilizing the membrane of the liver cell and promoting the production of liver enzymes (schizandra also good to promote liver enzymes). The choleretic herbs like dandelion and artichoke promote the production of bile, which helps cleanse by pushing a stronger flow through the bile ducts. Lithotropic herbs such as bhumyamalaki (phyllanthus niruri, aka, chanka piedra) help to break up and/or dissolbe stones in the liver so that they eventually ...
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that can deplete the ojas, or life sap. It’s a matter of balance. If you are sick and trying to heal, you need all the ojas you can muster. Rajas is the subtle form of pitta (fire). It can aggravate the mind. Think of cultures that are known (stereotypes) for eating a lot of garlic and you’ll also find they are known for emotional volatility as well. That is the rajas at work.   [End]
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There are many different herbs out there. They have many different functions - some cleanse the body, others, like adaptogens, can build strength in the body. It really depends on which ones you take. It would be helpful to know what types/which herbs you were taking that gave you palpitations and made you dizzy. Accutane will damage your liver and aggravate the vata dosha (ayurvedically speaking here). Anxiety is a sign of aggravated vata. Palpitations, insomnia, constipation, dry skin, can also be the result of high vata. Most cleansing herbs are bitter and astringent. These chara ...
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Granted, not all vegans eat a low fat diet, but many do. Being vegan doesn’t guarantee that one is eating a balanced diet. The liver needs fats to make bile. With a low fat diet, there may not be enough bile flowing through the liver and gall bladder with the resulting dryness contributing to stone formation. I was on a vegan diet for almost ten years when I started having trouble with dairy. I now know that my dairy problems were related to the way dairy is produced conventionally and only buy organic, non-homogenized, whole milk products and limit myself to 1 - 1 1/2 cups of dairy ...
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The redness and inflammation of Pitta are often indicative of an imbalance in the liver and a corresponding inability to adequately clean the blood (rakta dhatu. If your friend responds well to anantamool, she may want to try Surakta, which is a traditional arishta contains annantomool (Hemidesmus indicus). http://www.bazaarofindia.com/productsdetails1.asp?pid=100F29&itemid=100F29&pn... http://www.baidyanath.org/21421.shtml   [End]
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from pasture fed cows. Conventional milk products are highly adulterated and toxic to the body and will aggravate Pitta due to the stress on the liver from the toxins. Ayurveda considers real milk to be a precious substance. That which is being sold in the supermarket is anything but! You may find the following link interesting: http://www.realmilk.com/what.html Also recommend: The Untold Story of Milk by Ron Schmid. http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0967089743/qid=1118285834/sr=2-1/ref=p...   [End]
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I’m allergic to three classes of antibiotics, the codeines/demerols, the salicylates (aspirin etc) and latex. I used to wear a MedicAlert bracelet. It was ignored three times. I have used naturopathic, homeopathic and herbal medicine for sometime and have always refrained from over the counter drugs. One doctor at an urgent care center insisted I was lying when I told him I didn’t take any drugs or medication. He insisted that everyone took drugs. Scary isn’t it? No one in my family is allowed to go to am HMO without a patient advocate along. I carry medical insurance to pay for ...
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Hi RMA, If you reread my post you will see that I said a stressed liver and adrenal fatigue are contributing factors. I did not say that the liver is the sole cause. High estrogens are may ”always” be associated with major liver disease, but major liver disease is NOT always associated with high estrogens. That being said, keeping the intestines, kidneys and liver clean and healthy are a key to health. Environmental estrogens (xenoestrogens) and adrenal fatigue play a significant role. I did a google search on estrogen dominance in men and the majority of the search results poi ...
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We humans have lunar cycles as well as diurnal cycles. Artificial lighting can disrupt both of these. If you wanted to be truly ”natural”, you would not use any means of artificial light after the sun goes down. This would allow your body a longer period of darkness in the winter vs the summer and your body would adjust gradually and a have longer period of semi darkness during bright moons. It is possible that our ancestors may have slept in caves or other shelters during full moons or stayed up and ”partied” on those occasions (Beltane rites anyone?)They certainly didn’t have the s ...
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The ”plain” coconut oil that is sold is usually referred to as RDB, or refined, deodorized and bleached coconut oil. It’s usually made from copra (coconuts split in half and left to dry in the sun) rather than fresh coconut. It usually has some nasty chemicals in it. Virgin coconut oil smells and tastes like fresh coconut. Here are some links with more info: http://www.mercola.com/2003/sep/13/coconut_oil.htm http://www.mercola.com/forms/coconut_oil.htm http://www.coconut-connections.com/res1.htm   [End]
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We have security lights outside our building as well. Even with the blinds and drapes drawn, there is enough light to see the shadows of the furniture in the room. My husband and I bought sleep masks to avoid the expense of heavier drapes in the bedroom. I notice a big difference in the quality of my sleep when I don’t where the mask. My melatonin levels were lower on my saliva test when I did not wear the sleep mask, so you really do want to prevent any light from hitting your eyes while you sleep. It actually makes sense when you think about it. Our bodies are designed to decrease ...
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You did not mention if it is your normal habit to stay up until 1am and sleep in until 8am of if you only do this during a liver flush. Consider the human body’s circadian rhythms. According to ayurveda, 10pm to 2am is Pitta time. The liver does much of its work during this time and cleanses itself between midnight and 2am. You need to be in a deep sleep for this cleansing to occur properly. Flushing the stones out is great, but the liver needs to regenerate and repair itself too. If you are in the habit of staying up late, you compromise your liver’s activities. Melatonin prod ...
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Emma, Generally speaking, ayurvedic massage is not supposed to be sexual in nature. It is true that there are tantric techniques that are sexual in nature, and that ayurveda views a healthy sex life as one of the pillars of life but I seriously doubt that many Indian women would put up with what you are describing. Tantra means ”tool”, not sex. Sadly the term is frequently misused in the West. Yes, there are sexual ”tools”, but they must be used appropriately and it should be clear up front that this is what is being practiced,and the intent is clear between both parties. This doe ...
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A raw food diet can really aggravate the Vata dosha. Raw foods can be difficult to digest and should not be eaten during the Vata time of year (late fall and winter when weather is cold and dry). The Pitta season (summer) would be the best time to eat raw foods as the digestive agni would be stronger. Constipation is a sign of disturbed apana vayu, the downward flowing air. This is caused by weak digestion. You need bile to digest your food. This may be why you are craving fats - your body needs fat to make bile. You liver cleanses may not have been successful due to lack of bile ...
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Oxypowder is supposed to cause watery bowel movements, but you should be able to control them well enough to get to the toilet in time. You should take enough Oxypowder to have 3 -5 watery BMs a day. If you are having significantly more BMs, or are unable to control them, you need to cut back on the dosage. Diarrhea from pathological causes, such as food poisoning, viruses & amoebas etc usually cause forceful BMs that are hard to contain because your colon is irritated by the cause and trying to expel everything as fast as possible. Be sure you are drinking enough water. Dehydrati ...
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Hi Dirk! I have used both Oxypowder and Colosan and found that my body responds very differently to each product. You can find the details at my earlier post here: http://curezone.com/forums/m.asp?f=329&i=9253 I am currently doing the 7 day Oxypowder cleanse in preparation for my 4th liver flush this weekend. One night I forgot to take the capsules, so decided to take the usual dose first thing in the morning (on an empty stomach) to make up for that. The morning dose required a bathroom visit very half hour or so for the first 4 hours of the morning. Needless to day, I cancel ...
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JoHanna, When you say ”if you sign up for email” do you mean checking the box of ”allow visitors to email you after to post” option. (I have that enabled) or is there some other way to sign up for email? Every email I have received thru curezone has shown the senders ”real” email address in the header of the message received with the exception of any messages from the webmasters. #33901   [End]
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Hi Roberto, Sorry to take so long to respond to your questions. I’ve had a very heavy work schedule the past two months. If I’m not asleep by 10pm, I still feel it for the next several days. You said that your blood test shows high estrogen. The adrenal problems are probably a contributing factor, but not the only one. You want to look at the whole picture, that is, all of the hormones in perspective to the others. Do the blood tests also show low testoterone? Have you done any bowel, kidney and liver cleansing? I did a search on all your posts and don’t see any mention of th ...
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getting off three antidepressants is an impressive achievement! You are right about the need to make changes to prevent new stones from forming. Improper diet and lifestyle is what makes us ill. Until we change these fundamental things, we will get more of the same.   [End]
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Liver flushes are a cleansing process. The body is in a building mode during the follicular phase of the cycle.When the unfertilized ovum dies, the body prepares itself to cleanse the womb. Additional cleansing would best be done during the cleansing phase. If you are in balance with your circadian rhythms, you would ovulate on the full moon and menstruate on the new moon. This is why liver flushes are generally recommended in the period after the full moon and before the new moon.   [End]
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Did you cut back on fats when you were flushing? Your body needs good fats for a healthy endocrine system. You may want to increase the amount of fat in your diet and research some ”women’s herbs” such as Vitex, Black Cohosh, Dong quai or shatavari to help balance things out.   [End]
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The liquid iodine that is sold at drug stores for topical (on the skin) application as an antiseptic can be ***poisonous*** if taken internally!!!  The product called Atomidine by Edgar Cayce has been detoxified for internal use. There are other liquid iodine products specifically for internal use as a dietary supplement and it will say so on the label. Your drug store may carry a product like this, but I have not seen this in any drugstore in my area.  I did a quick google search on liquid iodine dietary supplements and pasted them below.  Your natual foods ...
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The thyroid gland/human body does not produce iodine. It uses iodine, among other things, to produce thyroid hormones. We need to get iodine through our diets. Iodine is abundant in seawater, which is why sea vegetables and seafoods are rich in iodine. Hypothyroidism can be secondary to adrenal exhaustion. Since you have indicated a goiter, it makes sense to build up your body’s iodine supply to see if that addresses the problem. Liquid iodine is easier to absorb and if you think you are having digestive/absorbtion issues, a short course of liquid iodine supplementation may help you ...
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The radioactive iodine that you would take for the thyroid scan could very well kill off your remaining thyroid function if you are hypothyroid. (you might find this post interesting: http://www.curezone.com/forums/m.asp?f=25&i=596) Goiters are definitely a sign of iodine deficiency.  You may not be getting enough iodine in your diet. You may not be absorbing the iodine in your diet.  You may be absorbing other substances that are inhibiting your ability to use the iodine your absorb. The bowel cleanse will help with the absorption issue.  Are you exposed to a ...
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Melissa, There are many good basic books on natural remedies and herbal medicine. These will describe the actions of the herbs (pharmakinetics), contraindications (if known) and recommended dosages.  Ayurveda recommends starting with the smallest recommened dose and then increasing if needed.  The key is to pay attention to how your body (and mind) is responding. I personally believe that every household should have a good herbal handbook or two and some home remedy guides on hand.  A small problem or imbalance can usually be addressed with simple foods, culi ...
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From what I have read, if the body is low in magnesium, then it would absorb the magnesium from the Colosan first, then the Colosan would produce the watery BMS. I thought this was what happened with the first use of Colosan, but I tried the Colosan again a week after and had the same result. I find it hard to believe that I depleted such a large amount of magnesium in one week, especially since I supplement with magnesium citrate on a regular basis. My colon/rectum felt irritated from the Colosan, which is why I found it difficult to maintain bowel control when using it. This did no ...
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  Since the capsules you were taking contained equal parts of Vitex (chaste tree) and wild yam, you could buy the powdered herbs in bulk and mix them yourself.  You didn’t say how big the capules were, eg, "0" or "00" size.  If you are only taking two capsules a day, I would suggest 1/2 teaspoon twice a day, mixed with some warm water.  The taste of both of these herbs is not especially strong or distasteful. I’ve taken both in the manner described. You can buy the herbs from HerbalAlchemy or Present Moment. I’ve pasted a link here below.&nb ...
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Hello All! Many curezone posters are using both Oxypowder and Colosan for bowel cleansing. From reading the posts, it appears to me that people use one or the other.  I have used Oxypowder to cleanse pre and post liver flush, with great success.  This month I decided to order Colosan, since it is more reasonably priced.  My body responede much differently to Colosan as to the Oxypowder.  You can read more details in my post on the Ask Andreas forum here: http://curezone.com/forums/m.asp?f=337&i=10616       [End]
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Hi Jeanette, From user’s descriptions of their experiences, it would seem that Oxypowder and Colosan are similar products and would flush the intestines in much the same way. That is what I thought until I tried the Colosan. It has been a significantly different experience. I am looking forward to Andreas response on the subject (thank you Andreas for your wonderful insights and words of wisdom!). I used Oxypowder for 3 - 4 days to prepare for each of my three liver flushes, and then used it again after the liver flush to clean out any stones. It usually took 2-3 days before I stoppe ...
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Hally, Bowel cleansing and liver flushing are useful tools to improve health, but they can be depleting. Are you doing anyting to build up your strength in between cleanses? Some people need a more palliative approach that cleanses, then builds, cleanses then builds. If you feel your digestion is weak, are you taking any carminative herbs or digestive enzymes with your meals? 33901   [End]
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....otherwise you risk reabsorbing the toxins expelled from the liver. It sounds like this is what is happening. If you body is clean and in balance, you can fight off the viruses & bacteria. If you are not able to do an enema or colonic, try using something like Oxypowder or Colosan, or even epsom salts to flush out your system. I generally use Oxypowder to flush the intestines and colon for three days before the liver flush, and then again after the liver flush. I keep up the Oxypowder until no more liver stones are visible. It usually takes 2 - 3 days to get all the stones out of my ...
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Were you feeling nauseous before you took the multi-vitamins? Ginger is good for nausea and gas. You may want to try some ginger tea.   [End]
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Roberto, The link below will take you to the Amazon page for a book called "My doctor says I’m fine: so why do I feel so bad?" by Shoshanna Zimmerman.  This books shows you how to interpret various body markings in context with what is out of balance, including the facial markings that show hormone imbalances.  Facial dimples are a sign of hormone imbalance. The ones right at the corners of the mouth tend to indicate insulin/digestive hormone related issues.  The ones further away relate to other systems.  Dimples in children are usually a sign that their b ...
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I am not taking any thyroid drugs. I am supplementing with Atomidine, which is detoxified iodine (per Edgar Cayce)or liquid potassium iodide supplement (get the one for internal use, not the white or yellow one for wounds as that is poisonous if taken internally). It seems like it is helping. Have you done an iodine skin test? You will need the brown coloured 2% tincture of iodine. Paint a 2 inch patch on your abdomen, inner thigh or forearm. Make note of the time when you paint the patch and make note of how many hours it takes to dissappear. If you have sufficient iodine in your s ...
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criss, boomer, what were your bowel movements like before you started the colonix program? I used the program successfully for two months and have recommended it to many friends and colleagues with great success as well. I’ve just ordered two kits for my husband. Problems in the intestines, especially gas, often start with problems in the stomach, such as too little hydrochloric acid production. What types of foods are you eating? You may need some digestive assistance, like digestive enzymes. When are you drinking the recommended amount of water? It is important not to drin ...
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Roberto, My saliva test didn’t measure the SIgA. That test was more expensive. I already had signs of malabsorption from an ayurvedic perspective. According to ayruveda, scallops on the sides of the tongue and vertical ridges on the fingernails are indicative of malabsorbtion. I still take digestive aids but I do not need as much or as often. Are you taking digestive enzyme formulas with your meals? Some people only use HCL. I prefer to have amylase, protease and lipase included. You may also want to include pancreatin, since accutane can affec the pancreas too. If the stomach is ...
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Hi Roberto! There are several books that touch on differing aspects of endocrinology. I don’t know of a single source though. I have read through many books and many websites and attended many seminars. I recommend that you start with a college level anatomy and physiology textbook for a foundation and then branch out to other books on the topic. They won’t all agree on all points, but as you read differing views, the pieces will start to come together. Wilson’ book is a useful perspective too. I highly recommend Andreas Moritz’s book ”Timeless Secrets of Health & Rejeuvenation” (I ha ...
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Justin, Have you tried doing the Colonix pack while just eating ”normally”? From your earlier postings, it sounds like you are trying to follow a detox regime at the same time. That may be too much at once for your body and are causing unnecessary stress. I ate my pancakes (flapjacks), and used ghee (clarified butter, olive and coconut oil (among other things), while on Colonix. I always recommend making changes gradually unless you have acute conditions that would require a more comprehensive approach. You want to get comfortable with each change in diet and/or lifestyle before y ...
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I don’t recall seeing that recommendation in the Colonix package insert or on their website. Is that a recommendation from your healthcare practitioner? Do you have liver issues that cause pain when you eat fats? We need fats in our diet to make bile to digest our foods as well and produce hormones. Organic butter, ghee (clarified butter), olive oil or virgin coconut oil would be better choices than margarine. ”Virtually” trans fat free means there is trans fat in the product, otherwise they would be able to claim ”trans fat free”. Don’t be fooled by the marketing rhetoric. Whet ...
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Happy to hear you are feeling noticeably better! Things will improve from here. I think you will really be happy with the Colonix program. You might try having a cup of black tea or chai in place of coffee and see how you do while weaning yourself off. The black tea will still have some caffeine, but not as much. I read somewhere recently that coffee actually changes the hormonal secretions of the colon and makes it more difficult to maintain blood sugar levels. Tea doesn’t have the same effect, nor is it as acidifying to the body.   [End]
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Some of the other products like Colosan or Oxypowder are supposed to clean the small intesting as well. It does seem appealing to just get the gunk flushes out and say ”begone!”, but you have to consider whether you can handle a dramatic change in a short period of time. Some folks can take colonic treatments without any ”side effects”. Everyone I’ve spoken with personally said it took them awhile to be functioning normally again. The internal colon pressure wash either brought up too many emotions that they weren’t prepared to handle, or they felt dried out, constipated and anxious ...
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I don’t have the original test results, only the last two that were taken after each session of the BioHealth therapeutic protocal for stage II adrenal exhaustion. My morning cortisol levels 14.7 nM were within the normal range of 13.0-24.0 nM. By noon I had dropped to 4.9 nM which is below the normal noon range of 5.0-8.0. At 4pm I had dropped even lower to 3.5 nM where the normal range is 4.0-7.0. Then at 10pm my cortisol levels were at 2.1 nM which was back within the normal 10pm range of 1.0-3.0. My DHEA average was only 0.7nM where the normal range was 2.0-10.0 After the seco ...
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Congratulations on taking an important step towards better health. I think you will like the results you get from the Colonix kit. FYI, you’ll need something like Oxypowder or Colosan to flush the intestines for a few days prior to and after the liver flush.   [End]
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It’s important to keep some perspective here. Senna products some in many forms. An infusion (tea) will not be as strong as taking it in capsules or tablets. There are many OTC laxatives that contain a lot of senna. The labels usually caution that the product can be ”habit forming”, but many people ignore this and just pop their Senocot or Correctal on a nightly basis. I find it hard to believe that someones colon would be ”pink and healthy” if it is coated with impacted faeces and/or mucoid plaque. The muscles of the colon will also become weak when they are so impacted they can’t m ...
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I got constipated on the third day and had to drink extra strong KleriTea that day. No problems with constipation after that. My friends reported similar experiences with the first week. It seems as though we forget to drink enough water after a few days, so we get a ”reminder”. :)   [End]
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If you are used to drinking coffee and then stop it suddenly, you will almost certainly have headaches. You might also find yourself constipated since your bowels are used to the stimulating effects of the coffee to make them move. If you don’t mind a few suggestions........I would recommend weaning yourself off the coffee gradually so that your body can adjust (this is true of any change in habits. If you change too quickly or too dramatically you could find yourself in a emotional and/or physical ”shock” that will make it hard to stick with the new habit). You could make it a goal to ...
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Undigested emotions are stored in the body as well. Cleansing will bring them up so that they can removed from the body as well. It usually seems to be the colon cleanse that brings them up, so when I recommend a colon cleanse to someone I alert then to this. This is one of the reasons I recommend the Colonix program to first time colon cleansers, since the Colonix product (a psyllium based cleanser)seems to bring up the toxic emotions at a pace most can handle. One friend of mine went in for a few colonic irrigation treatments a few years ago and was overwhelmed by the amount emotion ...
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The Colonix program is an excellent first choice for a colon cleanse. I’ve suggested it to many friends with great success. For most, the first week has been the ”hump week” as the body adjusts to the program. I got a little constipated on the third day. I took two strongly brewed KleriTeas that day, which got things moving along nicely and allowed me to get back to the regular program. I did not get severe headaches, nor did any of my friends, but headaches are a possibility if you release toxins faster than your kidneys and liver can handle. This is least likely to happen with the ...
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I recommend the Colonix program to anyone is doing a ”first time” colon cleanse. The program is very easy to incorporate into your day. The fiber drink is the best tasting one I’ve found. It’s important to cleanse at a level your kidneys and liver can handle, otherwise you will feel ill. The cleansing pace of Colonix has worked well for me and many others to whom I’ve recommended it. One thing to note - Colonix will work on the colon, or large intestine. At some point you will probably want to cleanse the small intestine as well, and perhaps do some liver flushing down the road. I r ...
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I started prepping for my 4th liver flush (scheduled for first Saturday in April) by taking the Gold Coin grass tincture and drinking my kidney tea. I’ve been taking the GCG for three or four days now. This morning I noticed about twenty small tan stones floating in the toilet along with a normal bowel movement. I flushed my intestines with Oxypowder for several days (until no more stones were visible)after my last liver flush in February. There have been no stones visible with my BMs after the last flush prior to today. Has anyone else experienced this? Is it possible that the GCG is ...
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Jessers, Mild thistle is a very bitter herb and its energetics are cold. If you take a large amount of it with a meal you can disrupt your digestion, which will then make you very tired and produce toxins in the body from incomplete digestion. The symptoms you describe, fatigue, weakness, chills, can be a sign of aggravating the vata dosha (as is anxiety). Your digestion is not strong enough to take a large dose of a bitter tonic without assistance from digestive enzymes or carminative herbs. You could be allergic to the milk thistle, but this is rare. If you want to continue ...
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You’ll need to buy his book ”The Amazing Liver Cleanse” (see link below)as the information is copyrighted. The book is available in paperback and is not very expensive. I like the way Andrea gives clear instructions and alternatives for persons who may not be able to drink a lot of apple juice (like myself - too much sugar for me) and gives clear descriptions of what to expect, what difficulties could occur, and what to do about them. I’ve done three flushes so far with this method and am prepping for the fourth in April. If you want more info about how my flushes went, click on the ”Al ...
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Hi Jessers, In the course of my studies I have encountered several differing points of view on the subject. In his book on liver therapy, Christopher Hobbs states that bitter tonics should be taken 15 minutes to 1/2 hour between meals. Dr. Vasant Lad gives general ayurvedic guidelines that herbs working on the lower part of the body such as purgatives, diurectics and emmenogogues (think colon, bladder and uterus) should be taken before meals; herbs that work on the digestive function such as stimulants, carminatives, bitter tonics and nutritive tonics (think stomach, spleen, liver an ...
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Jessers, Milk thistle helps to protect the liver cells and stimulates growth of new liver cells. It is not generally considered a liver cleanser though. There are other herbs such as burdock root, dandlion root, oregon grape and bhumyamalaki (phyllanthus niruri) that have a more cleansing effect and are great when combined with milk thistle. They won’t replace a liver flush but can help significantly with detoxing your liver. My husband’s liver went from 20% functioning to 80% functioning (per lab tests) in three months on 1000mg of milk thistle a day. Take your milk thistle (and ...
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Consider the brown/tan floating fluff to be a success. I only say foam after my first flush because my liver was too congested to release more. I took the gold coin crass tincture (to soften stones - I can’t handle the sugar in the apple juice) for several weeks before the second flush and released over a cup of stones with that one. My third flush released some really old and toxic stones. I have been eating a healthy diet most of my life, but made the mistake several year ago of taking some prescriptions that really ruined my life. Things are back on track now. Keep on flushing! Tr ...
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I responded to your other post above. I’d like to suggest that you do a Curezone search on Colonix to read what has already been posted.   [End]
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I have used the Colonix kit for a couple of months and have recommended it to many of my colleagues and friends. None of us experienced any pain or any serious difficulties. Be sure to drink enough water while you are on the program. You can expect to have more bowel movements than you are used to and it may seem as though more is coming out of you than you put in (which is what you want. My friends and I did get a little constipated on one day in the first week. I drank extra strong KleriTea on that day. It solved the problem and the rest of the program was fairly simple. I had to in ...
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The key is to have milk thistle as the main ingredient so that you get a minimum of 650 - 1000 mg of it a day (depending on your size and needs). At one point I had read a report indicating that a minimum of 650 mg was needed for real effectiveness in serious liver damage. My husband is very large, so he took 1000 mg a day. I would buy the more expensive brands from the local health food store. My husband would by the cheaper brands at the homeopathic section of Long’s drug store. It took about a month for the body odor, gray colour and yellow eyes to clear up. After three months he could ...
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Thanks for the suggestion. I agree that citrus juices can be heating but I used grapefruit juice for the first two flushes and did not experience any burning, so I don’t think it’s the juice. Could have been some vile toxins. It will be interesting to see if I experience the same type of burning on the next flush.   [End]
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I use Oxypowder as an intestinal flush before and after my liver flushes. I think it will help flush out mucoid plaque if you have first loosened it with a psyllium or psyllium/bentonite product. I did see some blackish-brown rubbery pieces that resembled seaweed during the first two days of Oxypowder. I belive this was mucoid plaque that had been loosened by the Colonix program that I had used just prior to the Oxypowder. My abdomen did get flatter after I finished the Colonix kit.   [End]
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Have you considered taking a course of liver supporting herbs to help strenthen and rebuild you liver in between flushes? Milk thistle helps to protect the liver from toxins and stimulates growth of new liver cells. Dandlion root and burdock help clean the liver. These three herbs are frequently sold in combination formulas at health food stores. My husband was put on very toxic pain killers after a car accident a few years ago. The drugs made his skin grey, his eyes yellow and gave him a strong billious body odor. His liver dropped to only 20% functioning according to the blood tes ...
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Congratulations on your flush! Please post again and let us know if it helped your insommnia.   [End]
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Hi LikeItOrNot! You kidneys will need to process a lot of toxins as part of cleansing, so please consider a course of kidney cleansing tea or similar before the actual liver flush. I agree with rhawnieg’s recommendation to use oxypowder or a similar product for a few days before and after your liver flush. You want the intestinal tract to be clear to allow any stones released from the liver to be easily flushed out. You haven’t indicated how much colon cleansing you have done in the past. If this is your first time, please keep in mind that colon cleansing can bring up toxic emoti ...
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I had a lot of burning with my third flush, which seemed to have flushed out much older stones. There were no stones,only chaff and foam with my first flush. Lots of yellow tan gravel with my second flush, but no difficulty, burning or nausea with either of the first two flushes. My third flush was very different. I released some red smooth stones and small black stones in addition to the gravel and had intense buring of the anus as well as weakness, nausea and headaches on the day after the flush. I wasn’t using a collander, so I could only identify the stones I could see. Apparent ...
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I have used the Gold Coin Grass tincture very successfully for my liver flushes. I had no adverse reactions. A friend of mine tried it and broke out in horrible eruptive acne on her face, chest and back. The GCG (and Chinese Bitters) contain Bupleurum, which is a very powerful herb known to ”bring out eruptive diseases” and ”dredge out old emotions of sadness and anger stored in the organs and tissues of the body”. [from Michael Tierra’s Planetary Herbology”]This is a good thing if you are ready for it. A bit overwhelming if you are not prepared. You may want to start with a smal ...
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Thank you for the information and the compliment. I’m going to add Bhumyamalaki into my milk thistle/dandelion root/burdock liver support formula that I take in between flushes. My third flush seems to have been very successful, but it was also very depleting (perhaps because I was traveling before the last flush). I’m going to skip the March flush and work on building myself up before the next flush in April.   [End]
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My first flush in December produced only foam and a nice peaceful feeling. I had a little acid reflux during the night which was resolved by elevating my torso. No nausea or sick feelings. My second flush in January produced over a cupful of calcified stones over a three day period. No reflux issues this time. No nausea either. My third flush last night (February 5th)has produced many more stones and more types of stones. In addition to the yellow to tan calcified stones, I have also noticed some smaller, smooth surfaced reddish brown ones and some reddish black ones that look almos ...
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Hi sugaholic, Sorry to take so long to reply. I’ve been traveling. The Andreas Moritz flush is similar to the Clark flush posted on this site but seems a little simpler. He does not ask you to add Black Walnut tincture to the juice/oil mixture, nor include the ornithine capsules. I recommend you read his liver flush book as he gives alternatives for persons who do not tolerate apple juice or epsom salts (for those sensitve to sulfur of sugar for example)if you are having trouble with the Clark method. Otherwise, just be patient. It may take two or three flushes to get the conge ...
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Oxypowder produces watery bowel movements, affectionately known as ”butt pee” around this site. There are a number of substances that will give you liquid BMs, such as epsom salts. One thing that I noticed with Oxypowder is that there is hardly any odor associated with the butt pee! No need to light a match to burn off the excess methane, if you know what I mean. My watery BMs have been almost black at times, so I know I was releasing some really old stuff, yet almost odorless. (very helpful when you need to use a public toilet, like at the office) I believe the deodorising effect ...
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Thank you for the interesting post. Spirit’s post gave the Latin botanical name for your Chanca piedra. It’s the same Latin name (phyllanthus niruri)as the ayurvedic herb Bhumyamalaki! I’ve used that on and off in formuals for many years but not recently. Maybe I took enough to avoid gallstones but not the liver stones. I’ll start taking it again and see what my next flush produces. A Siddha Vaidya doctor once told me that the vaidya of his training ate at paste of all parts of the fresh Bhumyamamalki plant everyday.   [End]
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I didn’t get any stones on my first flush, just foam. I did the Andreas Moritz flush, using the Gold Coin Grass (GCG)tincture for 9 days prior to the 1st flush to soften and breakup the stones. Apparently my liver was too congested to release much with only 9 days of GCG. I took it for 21 days before my 2nd flush and released about of cup of stones, some were 1.5 inches in diameter. I’ll start taking the GCG on the full moon and do my 3rd flush on Feb 5th. That will be 12 days of the tincture before the flush. I’ll post my results a few days after the flush. I noticed that I was exp ...
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In his book, The Amazing Liver Clease, Andrea Moritz says that the foam released after the liver flush ”consists fo millions of tiny white sharp-edged cholesterol crystals which can easily rupture small bile ducts. They are equally important to release.” I only saw foam after my first liver flush. I didn’t release any foam from the Oxypowder or epsom salt BM’s prior to the flush, so I think the foam was from the liver. The stones showed up on the second liver flush.   [End]
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Is it possible that some calcified stones will float? I didn’t use a colander, but looking at what was floating in the toilet after my second liver flush (Andrea Moritz method), I released about a cup full of yellowish tan stones that looked like small pieces of pumice. They looked just like the pictures of calcified stones. The largest was an inch and a half in diameter. They all floated.   [End]
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David, It seems that in many ways you have now answered your own question. :) Cloudy urine is a sign of kapha in the urine. If you have a fatty liver, you very likely have fatty kidneys, a fatty heart and fatty arteries. The good news is - you can clean them up. Just don’t try to do it all overnight. The massage therapist activated your kidney trigger points to clear the energy blockages there. Since the kidneys couldn’t dispel the toxins throught the urine, they pushed them out the only way they could. As annoying as the breakouts are, it’s a blessing in disguise to force you to a ...
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Hi Roberto, Sorry to take so long to respond. I am working many hours this week and have not had much time to spend on Curezone. Regarding the ardrenal extracts and products that contain them (like isocort etc), I am reluctant to take these for several reasons. Firstly, I am a vegetarian and do not want to take on the karma of causing an animal pain or death to extract their hormones. Secondly, each species produces hormones that fit their species needs. The adrenal extracts are usually from pigs or sheep. Last I looked, I am still human. My human body requires a different type of ...
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David, I would look at the energetic qualities of the symptoms that are bothering you the most and then treat that. Knowing your ayurvedic constitution (prakruti)is interesting in that it lets you know where you are most likely to go out of balance under stress and gives you an idea of how to stay in balance once you get there. Most of us are already out of balance, so it’s more important to know what is out of balance. That’s what you treat - the imbalance (vikruti). Usually you treat the most aggravated dosha first, then see how the body shifts in response. Then treat the next m ...
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Dearest Andreas, First let me say how much I truly love your books! I recommend them to everyone. Thank you for writing them to help us along. I’d appreciate it if you would talk a little bit about snoring. What causes it and what can be done about it. My husband says I started snoring regularly about a year ago. Prior to that he said I only snored when I was really exhausted. I’ve been eating a good diet for the past couple of years and made many lifestyle adjustments to get back in sync with my circadian rhythms. I feel much better, yet now I’m snoring my husband into the next ...
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My apologies LavaGoddess. I meant to say ”Don’t be afraid to OCCASIONALLY drink a stronger tea if you need it.” I only need the stronger brew three times in the 30 days of the program - once in the first week, once in the second week (after which I reduced the Paranil capsules to 3 instead of 4) and once in the third week. A 5 or 6 minute steep was all I needed for most of the 2nd thru 4th week of the kit. My friends report pretty much the same thing. Thank you holisticnurse for point on senna and reminding me to be more clear in my suggestions.   [End]
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Dearest Roberto, The adrenal fatigue diagnosis & conclusion was the result of several factors, first through ayurvedic and traditional chinese medicine facial, tongue and pulse diagnosis (”low ojas”, ”depleted jing”, ”yin deficiency”), then confirmed with a saliva test. An ayurvedicaly trained naturopath gave me a free facial diagnosis after I attended her seminar. She noticed that I had the facial markings a ’sub-clinical thyroid’ imbalance. At the time this naturopath worked in the same office as an ob/gyn MD team who are trained in ”functional medicine”. There is a link at the bot ...
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Hi! If I send an email to someone via curezone, will the recipient receive a message from my anonymous #33901 or will it show my name and actual email address? What happens if I allow forum members to email me? I understand that my email address will not be visible on the forum, but what happens if someone emails a response rather than posting it on the forum? Please clarify how this works. Thank you so much.   [End]
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David, A few questions: 1)Has the acne spread more or faster since you started taking the gold coin grass/bupleurum tincture? 2)Are you suffering from or have you had a history of constipation, diarrhea, or maybe alternating between the two? Any burning indigestion? 3)What types of foods have you been eating? No judgement here, just trying to get a better idea of what may be going on. A few ideas for you to consider (this is based on what has worked for me, your body is different, listen to your inner voice as you read these - if it resonates with you, you may want try it, if no ...
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Hi Lava Goddess! The first week of the Colonix Pack is the week of learning how to use it with your body. It WILL get easier. My friends had some problems with the first week too. I got constipated on the first week of Colonix. Actually it was on day 3. I felt very bunged up and had horrific headaches by the end of that day, so I drank a cup of KleriTea mid-afternoon and left the KleriTea bag in the cup for 15 minutes that evening. Things finally got moving and it was very easy after that, although I could only increase to 3 Paranil capsules on week two. What is the timing of your ...
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I use Oxypowder for three days before and then three days after my liver flushes. I start with four capsules and increase one capsule each night. The effect seems to be somewhat cumulative with my constitution. Four capsules starts me out with loose movements in the morning and almost ”butt pee” by evening. With six capsules, it’s definitely a watery blast six or more times a day. Be sure to drink extra water and electrolytes while you are using the Oxypowder.   [End]
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I’m not saying that Milk Thistle would’t do any cleansing of the liver (if it helps the cells regenerate they would probably clean them selves in the process), and I don’t mean to sound like I’m challenging your statement that your liver is congested. Milk Thistle is usually recommeded more for protection and regeneration. I guess it depends on what is meant by cleansing. There are other herbs that have ”lithotropic” (stone breaking)or ”deobstruent” (obstacle removing) qualities as part of their strengths. These seem like they would be more helpful in clearing/cleaning a bile duct vers ...
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Emailing me directly will not likely be any quicker than posting to the forum. I usually am not able to access my personal email until the evening and then not every day. I do receive an email notification when someone posts a response to my post and do follow up when I am able. Also, if you post to the forum, other curezone members can assist you as well, plus we add to the body of knowledge on this site. Since we have diverged from the liver flush topic onto adrenal stress and post accutane issues, I’d like to suggest that you place a post under one of the forums most closely relate ...
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It is my understanding that the epsom salts dilate the bile ducts to allow the liver/gallstones to come out more easily. You didn’t mention if you are using something to breakup of soften the stones (like apple juice, or gold coin grass/bupleurum tincure)before your flush. Milk Thistle helps to protect the liver by making the cell membranes less permeabli to toxins and it stimulates the growth of new liver cells, but it is not a liver cleanser live burdock, dandelion root or artichoke. Perhaps you could look at a different liver flush method. Your body might need a different protocol.   [End]
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Hello Experienced Liver Flushers! The liver flush was done on Saturday night, with lots of stones (up to 1.25 inches in diameter) and gravel passed on the Sunday following. I’ve been using Oxypowder each night since then to help flush the stones out of my intestines. Here it is Wednesday morning (three days after flush) and I passed a tremendous amount of gravel! Some of the pieces were 1/2 inch long. Is this typical? Do you think all of this was pushed out of the liver on Saturday night and is just making its way down the pipe? or could I still be passing stones out of the liver? ...
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I also drink water on the same type of schedule since the Epsom salts dehydrate me very much. I’m used to drinking a lot of water. I usually get a headache about 1/2 hour to an hour after the Epsom salts. It feels like a ”dehydration headache” and lessens or goes away after I drink a glass of water. I don’t drink any water after 9pm and had no nausea on either of my two liver flushes. I passed an unbelievable amount of stones and gravel on the second flush.   [End]
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Most of the material that I have read indicates that dark circles under the eyes are related to poor kidney and adrenal function and dehydration. Flushing your liver will help. Have you done anything for your kidneys/adrenals? Are you drinking enough water?   [End]
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Hi #35024, Please tell me what you need to know or are struggling with. I’ll do my best to help.   [End]
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Since you mentioned adrenals and electrolytes together, does this indicate a blood test? I think the saliva tests are more accurate for homones, but even those have limits. The right level of hormones for YOUR body may not fit into the accepted ”norm”, especially when the ”normal” range is from a control group that already has worn out adrenals. According to ayurveda, the disease (or depletion) process starts a long time before anything shows up in the blood. Symptoms of adrenal fatigue are similar to many other conditions, probably because the adrenal fatigue kicked them off. I’ll inc ...
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Dear #35024, I actually took the accutane in January of 2000. My apologies for the typo. 2002 is when I had to leave my job due to the unbearable fatigue and started down the path of natural therapies to help overcome the side effects. The URL below will take you to my post detailing my accutane experience. I worked with a Naturopath for a year with some minor success. She had me do two sets of BioHealth Stage II Adrenal Exhaustion protocols. These were complicated and expensive. I didn’t make a lot of improvement but I stopped getting worse, which in itself was a good improvemen ...
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Last night was my second liver flush following the directions in Anreas Moritz’s book. I took 1 Tbsp of the Gold Coin Grass tincture for three weeks prior to this flush. I also tried to have a glass of apple juice with a meal(so as not to spike and crash my blood sugar)every day during the week preceding. This seems to have broken things up enough to pass the stones. As far as I could tell, I only passed foam on my first flush. This time I passed a few dark green pea shaped stones and lots of yellowish-tan pieces of gravel and now some tan stones almost 1/2 in in diameter and very ...
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I used Oxypowder for three days before a liver flush and again after the flush to clear out any possible stones. I started with 4 capsules the first night and felt no impact from them. The second night I tried 6 capsules. This produced a few watery movements. The third night I tried 8 capsules. This produced watery BMs almost every two hours. The first morning ones were very dark, the later ones light coloured. There were no odors associated with them, which I attribute to the oxygen neutralizing the toxins. I drank almost a gallon of water during the day to try to make up for all ...
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The side effects may not have been listed on the package. It depends on the YEAR you were prescribed the drug. The number of side effects listed on the package since 2001 are far more than those listed when the drug first came out and are only on the package due to the number of injury complaints filed with the FDA since Accutane’s release in the 1982. ”The risks associated with taking Accutane are so great that the FDA has taken the remarkable step of requiring each dose of Accutane to come with a Medguide, listing these side effects (the only other drugs to ever require a Medguide ...
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I have no ego associated with the size of my stones. :-) As long as I get them out and clear the bile ducts, gravel will be fine (and probably easier to expel). I’ll report back after the second flush. Thank you for your support.   [End]
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Thank you both for the swift response. I will try taking the Gold Coin Grass tincture for a longer period of time (30 days instead of 8)to break up the congestion and then try again. I’ll drink water if I feel really dehydrated. If I still don’t get any stones out with the second flush I’ll try to not drink water (or at least less)after 2pm with the third flush.   [End]
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Hello! I just did my first liver cleanse following the directions in Andreas Mortiz’s book. The actual cleanse part was far easier than I thought it would be, but I didn’t pass any stones. I did get a lot of foam with my watery bowel movements and am wondering if this could be some type of chaff? This process started with two types of bowel cleanses. First I did the Colonix kit for 30 days. I completed three weeks of the kidney cleanse tea after the Colonix kit, then used Oxypowder for the three nights before the actual liver flush. The Oxypowder gave me liquid bowel movements, but ...
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An even more frightening aspect of the legal requirement to treat cancers with Chemo, Radiation or surgery is that parents can lose custody of their children should the child be diagnosed with cancer and the parents fail to bring the child in for these poisonous treatments. The doctor’s have the right to force the chemo and radiation on your child. You can be charged with child endangerment in the US if you choose other treatment modalities.   [End]
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