Just working a stereotype. ;-) Explanation. So many that claim to be morally elite (under the xtianity hood and others as well) go on to piss on everything that moves. I find it humorous. I think all belief systems should be open to parody. Ask ”god.” Even she’s laugh.   [End]
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I am the pied piper of mirroring (psychologically speaking). I have a fan club that follows me around to try and keep me from bringing this kind of info to the masses. ;-) The vote thing is more of a comment on those who vote.   [End]
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It’s being posted in the christianity forum then because....? My response stands in essence with this forum and the info.   [End]
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I am not sure how this article and morality equates with christianity? Many great thinkers have observed the lack of morality within the christian meme.   [End]
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You make a good point about the naming of the telescope however what needs to be realized is that this is coming from a church of suppression. This is a church of double standards who impedes knowledge and potential yet holds the keys to great knowledge for a very few within the upper echelon of the structure. The are gate keepers. On one hand they perpetuate a myth about ”Satan” yet flaunt their esoteric agenda with the naming of the telescope with a name that they have sold as being synonymous with Satan. Anyone who has studied this religion knows that it is a cult of great influen ...
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John Adams ~ Second U.S. President, Founding Father of the United States Where do we find a precept in the Bible for Creeds, Confessions, Doctrines and Oaths, and whole carloads of other trumpery that we find religion encumbered with in these days? The divinity of Jesus is made a convenient cover for absurdity. This would be the best of all possible worlds, if there were no religion in it. The divinity of Jesus is made a convenient cover for absurdity. Have you considered that system of holy lies and pious frauds that has raged and triumphed for 1500 years. The Governme ...
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Robert Anton Wilson ~ American writer and philosopher The Bible tells us to be like God, and then on page after page it describes God as a mass murderer. this may be the single most important key to the political behavior of Western Civilization.   [End]
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George Washington Religious controversies are always productive of more acrimony and irreconcilable hatreds than those which spring from any other cause. I had hoped that liberal and enlightened thought would have reconciled the Christians so that their religious fights would not endanger the peace of Society. The United States of America should have a foundation free from the influence of clergy.   [End]
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Thomas Paine (1737-1809) I do not believe in the creed professed by the Jewish church, by the Roman church, by the Greek church, by the Turkish church, by the Protestant church, nor by any church that I know of....Each of those churches accuse the other of unbelief; and of my own part, I disbelieve them all. ~The Age of Reason, pp. 89 All natural institutions of churches, whether Jewish, Christian, or Turkish, appear to me no other than human inventions, set up to terrify and enslave mankind, and monopolize power and profit.” ~ The Age of Reason Of all the systems of religion t ...
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Abraham Lincoln As a young man Lincoln apparently wrote a manuscript that he planned to publish, which vehemently argued against the divine origin of the Bible and the Christian scheme of salvation. Samuel Hill, a friend and mentor, convinced him to drop it, considering the disastrous consequences it would have on his political career. In great contests, each party claims to act in accordance with the will of God. Both may be, and one must be, wrong. My earlier views of the unsoundness of the Christian scheme of salvation and the human origin of the scriptures have become clearer a ...
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Many christians like to say that Thomas was a devout christian and was one of the people who added a christian sensibility to the constitution, but.... This is myth. The constitution is not framed for christianity but actually allows for any belief while keeping christianity and other beliefs away from politics. Here are some interesting quotes and ideas from Thomas Jefferson. Read them and ask yourself about his ”christian” mindset. __________________________ Thomas Jefferson Question with boldness even the existence of a God; because, if there be one, he must more ap ...
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”I think that thought and believes are not causes that forces but the forces are the thoughts and believes. ” Interesting statement. I would like to offer a distinction. What I see is that the ”force” is behind thoughts and beliefs. Thoughts and beliefs shape the force. I will use a metaphor to flesh this out. If we see the force as current like in an electrical circuit. The circuit itself could be seen as thoughts and beliefs (information/intelligence) which actually takes the electrical ”force” and shapes it into specific experience. The current (force) is the same (i ...
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In other words you project your reality. Reality creation is an inside job. Together we are all co-creating reality.   [End]
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Religious Fundamentalism As Mental Illness Jason R. Tippitt Camden, TN May 30, 1997 The Spanish Inquisition led to the torture and execution of countless individuals. This dark spot in human history occurred around 1492, the year Christopher Columbus joined the list of people who had ”discovered” what came to be called the New World. This final ”discovery” of the Americas led to the decimation of the native population due to diseases unknown to their immune systems and, later, to the ”loving” efforts of some of the new inhabitants to convert these ”savages” to Christianity. In ...
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”But I will tell you this ,a wise man once said, if you want to know the father you have to know the son!” Another way to see this is one has to open their mind to get to infinite potential lest ye be blocked. ”The devil” is symbolic of the blockage.   [End]
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Depends on his definition of the devil I suppose. My definition is separation and egoic mind where fear and anger stems out of. Its just so much easier to blame something outside ourselves. ;-) Bring in the horned one.   [End]
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Just watched stand up comedian Dana Gould (Simpson;s writer) share a funny bit about baptism. In order to appease his parents him and hos wife baptized their daughter with this to say...”Great a suspected pedofile dunks my kids head in a bucket so that when she dies she can live in an invisible castle.”   [End]
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Karma   [End]
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The devil is a metaphor for the egoic mind which is contractive in nature. God is a metaphor for infinite potential which is expansive in nature. Christ is the metaphor for the creative imagination that opens one up to infinite potential beyond the limited egoic mind (the devil). Christ then becomes a metaphor for an mediator between the 2 states. Being ”saved” really means being saved from a limited ”self.” And from there the ”battle” ensues as polarity does its dance. What I am expressing is the original, REAL christianity based on gnosis versus the dumbed down version that wa ...
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Seems like someone is breaking through. One thing to add is that these lower states are part and parcel of resistance. When we resist change and flow and effectively shrink away from all the potential that exists we recreate these states over and over and give our self more suffering and pain. To be free is to be fully open and flowing. This open and flowing state is part and parcel of the higher states. Ahhh fun with energy. For shits and giggles you may enjoy listening to some Guy Finley.   [End]
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Yes and a clean internal house (sub conscious mind) so that we don;t have any unraveling code. I think that is the esoteric meaning of a house divided against itself. So then the right emotion with the right intention without conflicting lurking code = coherent creation. I’ll buy that. But most people have clarity issues lurking and that’s where they get stopped up. This is why one must do a house cleaning of the mind to regain clarity and coherency.   [End]
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I think you pretty much nailed it. In other words we project our reality from within. The outside is a mere reflection of what is happening within us and spirituality is all about the inner game. The outer is where all the collective influence of all the projectors of reality takes place. All this influencing on the stage makes for one hell of a game. Now we can see why some belief systems or patterns continue to project similar experiences over and over. I see the inner as where the code is. It acts like a film. Then it get’s projected up on the wall where the experience of t ...
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Satan is mythological. It was created after christianity’s initial collection of doctrines. Symbologically it actually means anti christ. Now depending on who you talk to you will get more break downs from there. Anti creation, resistance to change or flow or expansion, or even shadow side (negative side of polarity). This was personified and then others went to town on more and elaborate distortions.   [End]
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What I see in this is connectedness vs walling off (all choices within the experience of god. In other words,it’s ALL god. We choose the experience within. It is bizarre to me that some people see god as an entity separate from creation. This disconnect has caused lots of human suffering and other suffering at the hands of humans. It is what I and others refer to as separation. God is universal energy (infinite potential). Everything IS god. To use your term. ;-) If we move into that paradigm then all beliefs are acceptable (not always optima from a harmony stand point).   [End]
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From one of the gospels that din’t make the ”cut.” ”The Kingdom will not come by waiting for it. It will not be a matter of saying ’Here it is’ or ’There it is’. Rather, the Kingdom of the Father is spread out upon earth, and men do not see it. . . . Let him who seeks continue seeking until he finds. When he finds, he will become troubled. When he becomes troubled, he will be astonished, and he will rule over all things.” - Jesus (from the gnostic Gospel of Thomas)   [End]
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At least someone sees the goofiness.   [End]
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There are those in denial of obvious agendas. There are also those who are part of the agenda that deny for cover. Discernment.   [End]
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Free masonry and related groups have infiltrated most if not all religions and political spectrums (left and right). The left pointing by itself misses the rest of the spectrum.   [End]
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A history check will show what has really happened instead of cherry picking a current thread. Like I said....   [End]
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Like I said before. I ”attacked” you to get your attention LONG after your extensive and abusive attack history was set in motion. It has become a long standing pattern where you always attack everyone first in your continual pattern of forum member abuse. Any one who posts information that you don’t agree with gets your belittling treatment in true and verifiable ”attack the messenger” style. Yes posting histories can be checked to verify this and should be. This victim thing you have shifted into isn’t flying at all. ;-) So then again. Are you willing to practice respe ...
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With no one attacking you back you will either quit the pattern or stick out all alone now. Good luck. Peace.   [End]
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Dude you have been attacking everyone all along and always first. You have been playing the role of forum bully for a long time. You were given lots of slack all along. People get tired of it and smack back on occasion to get your attention. Now that people have called you out, you are going into a victim mode. The best mode of all is a respect mode where you just share info and leave forum members out of it. Now that you are seeing where this kind of shit leads.... Are you ready to stop or are you addicted to the drama? BTW I am sorry but I really needed to get your attention. ...
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Wanna try a new approach? Don’t attack anyone or even mention them. Then any attackers will stick out like a sore thumb. Try it and see what happens. Then just use the alert button.   [End]
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The amazing thing is that you have done a 180 on christianity. Discussing how I think the meme operates is not ”hate” as you try and label it. It is an exploration. I think it is a dysfunctional belief system and so did you at one time. A quick posting history on ”grog” will reveal what I am talking about. Perhaps you can enlighten me on why you are embracing this belief system now when before you were warning people about it? As fas as history goes, none of us know with 100 percent accurate the truth as who ever rules rewrites history to suite their agenda. Cmon grog you know t ...
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”I have no idea what you are saying in this or your other posts.” And everything else for that matter. You should really consider a refresher course in college. Stupidity isn’t *that* endearing. Perhaps around the campfire with the other hairy knuckle draggers your utterances fly, but in the larger society, well....   [End]
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You and your like minded clone Ryan show yourself with every word. Keep shinin’ Doing a great job for the cause. ;-)   [End]
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There is only one self hating person in this entire forum. Also very deluded and polluted. Get up. Set down your water pipe. Go to a room with a mirror and gaze for a while. Let us know what you come up with.   [End]
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You are really diggin’ to the lowest reaches of the murky barrel to come up with arguments now. The author uses Islam to say that it could be worse if not for christianity? That is like saying...consider yourself luck that you were only stabbed and not shot. These bizarre justifications for christian suppression of women is like an intelligence test. You either see the absurdity and pass the test or not.   [End]
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Poor attempt at spin. Written like a lawyer. Slavery is slavery and bottom line it was endorsed by the psychotic ”god” character in the book of distortion (bible). It would be funny to see so many people fall for all the incoherent bs in this book if it wasn’t for all the real damage it has caused. We won’t even open the can of worms about blood sacrifice to the all knowing beast knows as ”god,” but apparently some still use that to endorse the eating of meat, specifically BB Qed.   [End]
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Just observing christy-insanity. ;-)   [End]
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Doing a search on many of these ”christian” posters and you will see reams of examples of hatred placed on top a mythical god. They blame an outside force for what looks deep within their own consciousness. In other words they are projecting a pattern and blaming a ”god” symbol. That way they can live with themselves, barely. I think you have said you have a degree in psychology? Then you must see this pattern as well. it is kind of like how therapists will use a teddy bear to get a child to open up. The child will project their inner patterns onto the teddy bear. We same the ...
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In other words....thought must be congruent with feeling for one to be an effective creator. Most people are living at levels of fear and anger which holds them way back. The guy in the sky thing was just a meta4. ;-)   [End]
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” Eternal torment is a lie that makes a lot of money for these fake christians.” Beej. All christians are fake. Some of them just don;t know it yet. It’s like being a salesperson for Winnie The Pooh.   [End]
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Oh that nasty devil. A concept created to keep people in line. Kind of like the IRS. ;-)   [End]
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Name any coherency test and we’ll dance little beejie. ;-)   [End]
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Now if he would just discard the rest of it then.... At least he’s further along than some that idolize goofy, passive/aggressive wanna be fundies. Little do they know they are already living in the hell they create ongoing. ;-)   [End]
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Insanisis 6:66 Unto the adams did the gods say, we are in control so bend over.   [End]
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Sick = mental illness in this case.   [End]
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Loony bin. The creature you worship also endorsed class systems in humans such as allowing for slavery. You are worshiping Hitler in a myth form. This is more suggestive of the people who project this belief. The christian moto is rape, pillage and plunder the earth because jeeezuz will swoop in and clean up our eco mess. Christian god = insanity   [End]
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Depends how ”good” Mary is. ;-)   [End]
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...as the animal kingdoms power animal. He was a real bear according to legend. He was a talking bear that had a fire phobia and it was through his living works that we may be free of forest fires. All we must do is emulate his great work and heed his advise and we too will be saved from forest fires. Praise Smokey. Also... Do not fall asunder to the evil one Yogi. That is one bad bear and he will try and tempt you because he is after your picnic basket. Don’t give in. Keep your basket safe. There was a time where Yogi tempted Smokey but Smokey did prevaileth ... [Image Embedded Here]
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The only way to deal with such blatant stubborn limited patterns is with satire. It might plant a seed. The absurdity needs to be spotlighted.   [End]
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Doesn’t Jesus look sweet with a bazooka. When he goes on a killing spree, christians get reallllllllllllly turned on. ;-)   [End]
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One very hurting soul. He is lashing out at all the wrong people while being suc***ed by the very system that has unsurped his power. He took the bait and did so based on his suffering. I feel very sorry for Ryan. I wish I could help but his mind is closed tight shut. And Ryan if you are seeing this I am not being patronizing although I sense you will think I am. If there was a way to reach out to you through your *current* confusion I would do so. I really hope that one day you will see through all the BS and see that you have more power than you think and that all these belief ...
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There is only one very confused man. Look in the mirror. Your continual need to abuse everyone in every post is a comment on your internal psyche which is obviously suffering. I would suggest your current belief system isn’t working Ryan. Not even close. Hit reset.   [End]
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Man you need to lighten up. You are one very angry, lonely, jaded and likely quite ill person. For that I will cut you some slack. Jesus isn’t going to save you Ryan. That is for you to do yourself, when you’re ready that is and tired of yet another lie you have obviously fallen for. When someone’s life is failing miserably they often turn to notions outside themselves as some kind of hopeful quick fix. It is just as trun in the healing arts as it is in spiritual circles. This christianity meme that you are currently flying with is a carrot that leads the horse further alon ...
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Actually Tomi is claiming you for his tribe. What are the oddz. I think you serve them as a useful idiot? Do you know the term?   [End]
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...was a carpenter ant, that would be one crazy lookin’ cross. Well not really a cross but more of an asterix. Discuss at will.   [End]
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Now sit back and watch the stir amongst the infected (gawd squad). Some people still need their teddy bears. It shifts responsibility to *that* outer force, even though it is a painted on idea. It is just another form of spiritual separation. You can see how this tethers the mind into a state of victimhood. One of the oldest problem...reaction...solution games going.   [End]
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Perhaps jesus will swoop in and save everyone. That’s what the mind virus that is christianity supports. I am surprised you have given into this older lie that free masonry. ;-) BTW, morality existed before christianity was constructed. Christianlity is a constructed belief system that borrowed its traits from other systems before it. Christianity is the old brand. New age is the new brand. Same product, new face lift. Both create a fracture in the psyche. They are ways to leverage minds and leave the inflicted without their power because they need to access their spirituali ...
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You don’t have to ”deal with” anything. You don’t need to be saved. You are not ”here” to have to do anything, although there are many that would steal your personal power and tell you otherwise (effectively enslaving you to a limited belief system). Spirituality is simple and most people over complicate it. It goes beyond all dogma and all ideas. it is a given and it is the core code of all reality. Over top of this we can try on all kinds of ideas and belief systems which is like trying on different clothes from an infinite tickle trunk. People that are very conditioned and st ...
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So then if infinite potential holds all possibilities why lock in to any one belief. Why not remain free to choose at any given moment? Free flow. Non-attachment. You can’t exclude anything. All you can do is steer your experience based on what you tune into. Some tune into popular stations and others march to the beat of a different and unique drummer(creative potential).   [End]
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I was conditioned by things outside myself. Then I moved beyond it and went on an expanded journey leaving captivity behind. Exclusivity is the sword that kills. BTW why the name change tomi? You didn’t like ”Hunter”? Was the name banned or was it just time for some new shoes in the Fall collection?   [End]
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Hunter(tomi), for the most part you always jump to conclusions. God is a concept made up by man. We have been over this in several of your curezone incarnations. Infinite potential holds all possibilities. Yours. Mine. Theirs. Ours. Al flavors of the same infinite rainbow. ;-) All truths are permissible. ”God” is not exclusive. Men’s beliefs are. You do the math.   [End]
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The better news is you don;t have to personally wait. It’s a decision away. ;-)   [End]
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....you examine cults, expect to stir the sensibilities of those who are imprisoned through resonance. ;-) The flail-a-thon continueth. Watch how the ridiculous is justified.   [End]
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I like these kinds of gestures. They do make a difference in the energy of people. It’s like the inverse of road rage. Balancing the world with one thought and action at a time.   [End]
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http://www.break.com/index/door_to_door_atheists_bother_mormons.html   [End]
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”Anti christ” is anti creation or the inverse of the power to create freely.   [End]
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I wouldn’t wish that misfortune on anyone.   [End]
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An example of struggle....loosh. ;-) Perhaps the god of the bible is the loosh king?   [End]
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...the key in the story you have been conditioned to fall for is held in this line.. If I blow God’s next opportunity for eternal life being offered to me back to the slave Satan life I forever will be Further reading to understand the carrot before the horse paradigm of christianity. http://techref.massmind.org/techref/other/hank.htm *not that being offended by any language usage is also a belief system* ;-)   [End]
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Not to mention that is diverts there power. Instead of tapping infinite power from within themselves they have to get it from a faux outside source. The effect of this is to hobble the creative power of those that adhere to the diversion. Mind virus indeed. All thoughts are just that....thoughts.   [End]
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Wow what an amazing intellect. Aka..DUH!   [End]
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It was distorted from its inception. Then there are the minions who act as repeaters for the virus.   [End]
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”The technocrats that work to socially engineer through various media and compliant organizations, utilize every technique they possibly can. That includes manufacturing a perceived apocalypse, fake anti-christs, phony peace and safety, and false flags that start wars and rumors of war.” I agree. The one thing you tend to miss though is that christianity is part of that design. Take a wider view. ;-)   [End]
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If ”they” indeed created anything they created a conscious circuit container. They are not infinite potential but too play in that infinite field. Just as Monsanto creates franken genetics and calls forth new conscious parameters, so then do these ”gods.” A god then is just consciousness that creates and calls forth mew aspects of consciousness. Don;t you find it interesting that the ”eve” model was ”created” from the rib of the ”Adam” model? Sounds like some genetic cloning. ;-) You would think that some infinite consciousness would have a better means unless..... BTW, nothing ...
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Ever notice that ”god” is referred to as plural in the christianity manual? Ever notice that many cave drawings in other cultures depict ”alien” type entities and their folklore often has other worldly entities as part of it? Factor into the loosh info and you get a very interesting picture of your ”god.” Perhaps christians are nothing more than lab rats kissing up to their alien creator? Suffer onto me little children....   [End]
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Yes in ohterwords we are very likely a product of tinkering from the past. Actually there is some interesting information regarding that idea. Then there’s that whole, ”junk dna” thing. Why is that all ”turned off?” ;-)   [End]
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”One calling God a ”COCK” is not EXAMINING Christianity it’s a downright INSULT to a persons beliefs.” Actually its a metaphor, albiet a shocking one to some and a funny one to others. It depends on your filters and how attached you are to it all. Using the term is a way to say that it is obvious that men created god. men have enjoyed a power over women for many centuries and wrote it right into the bible. By saying that god has a peis is a way of saying that the god is a projection of men and thier ”collective” penis. This clearly demonstrates to me, and perahps others who are o ...
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”On top of which, you also insult ”posters” constantly albeit subtle, and I can show you those posters retorts to remind you.” This was only ever done to directly mirror back the initial attack as a way to show the energy boom-a-rang. In other words it was a wind blowing debris back at the original insulter. You have been that many times. It has been pointed out by many posters. ”My answer to you is this, refrain from your insulting behaviour that is aimed at the heart of a christian, God etc.” If you are talking about parody aimed towards the belief system, then that will co ...
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Again for the record. I was exploring information. You stooped to personal attack again. That is now twice in 2 days. ;-)   [End]
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This shows that ”god” is an unjust character created by unjust men. The mormons took it even further when Smith had his divine moments and afterward was able to take on many wives (different flavor for each day of the week) Oh wait, they did this in the bible too. And people wonder why it is referred to as a book of porn by those that are not trapped in it. Now seriously ask yourself... Why would a fair, loving, balanced, god demand that women submit to their husbands. Seems ole god has a penis. Well we know that the ones who created the story character to enforce their own d ...
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What you’re dodging is that if the story book ”god” created ”everything” then ”he” created evil too. And you say...?   [End]
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What makes this really quite humorous is that ”evil” arose from somewhere. You say it just happened out of the blue. I say that ”blue” is infinite potential. If you really believe in the ”god” character in the bible then one would have to attribute evil to ”him.” After all ”he” is the alpha and omega according to the fable. ;-)   [End]
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Notice we just went from exploring information to you turning on exploring the messenger. Is it *that* hard to stick to the info?   [End]
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What then are the exclusive attributes of infinite potential. See if you can limit the concept into beliefs of any kind especially when they allow all beliefs. ;-)   [End]
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A cunning linguist. Har har har...   [End]
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There are individual truths and shared truths. These shared truths are merely shared perceptions. These perceptions/filters literally project reality from either this individual scriipt or shared scriipt and these projections seem very factual. They evolve along with the perceptions though. Reality is liquid and not held into a structured, predetermined mold. Feedback from consciousness is what determines the shape of reality and the perceptions of that overall shape from the individual vantage points (like camera angles with their own interpretations). Let’s look at your ”getting s ...
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Does christianity require victimhood as part of the belief system? It seems some christians see everything as an attack on their label. Even an exploration of the belief gets filtered as an attack and then the anti christian label comes out. I see this with some minority groups as well. It has gotten that you can;t even discuss beliefs or historical accounts in any manner without being labeled which is really just a device to shut down the discussion altogether.   [End]
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I think one may have got banned for ”christian behavior.” Smiling twas his choice. I think those that enjoy the banner christian here at curezone have found a new haunt to hang in. They can now support their very limited, exclusive view of christianity. I have noticed they are even fighting amongst themselves.   [End]
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I think we are dealing with some communication/language barriers. I would like to attempt to decipher what I understood our friend to say if I may. Our forefathers didn’t have a part to play so much as they just played or were played (influence vs empowerment). They either reacted or responded to the collective story. They either forged and influenced reality or were influenced by it (read victim consciousness). Of course it isn;t this cut and dry but this represents the polar extremes of the equation. I think the ”shit” being referred to can be attributed to being influenced by ...
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One of the key things to get is that we project reality from within to without. Many people have got this backwards and thus are lost in a house of mirrors. They take their ques and scripts from without themselves including notions of a separated god (a character no less). If we use the term ”god” then what ”god” really is...is everything collectively flowing as an elaborate informational/energetic evolving structure with many vantage points all feeding back into the overall totality. In other words...it’s ALL GOD! When we see this as the creative force drawing upon infinite potential ...
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”So ......the authors have seemingly done an amazing job...” Was it the authors, the editors along the way or the powers that be who initially endorsed and forced these views until they took hold that got so many people hooked? We see similar effects in other areas of the world with cults like Islam, Hinduism and Buddhism as well. People tend to want a spiritual teddy bear outside themselves. These religions fill a need and at a high price. We lose our freedom to choose and explore by taking on these belief constellations. We are in a time where this need for spiritual teddy bears ...
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Duck has a couple of meanings. There’s the water bird. Then there is the verb to duck as in to dodge questions. ;-)   [End]
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Out of the polarity circuit, what we focus on grows. That is the game of being human. Of course greater awareness transcends influences.   [End]
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Not sure what you mean. The story book known as the bible spells it out pretty clearly. The ”god” in this story is a tyrant. There is no mistaking it. If you mean that the authors that created the bible created this tyrant, then yes, of course they did, just as Charles M. Schulz was the creator of Charlie Brown.   [End]
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Yes the biblical character god is a hyrda with man traits all projected from man.   [End]
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His name is christian and he like to pretend to be an aunt at times. ;-) [Image Embedded Here]   [End]
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What you focus on grows.   [End]
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The saving line from an apologetic angle is ”it’s god’s will.” That way any result is acceptable.   [End]
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Experiment. Please forum members that believe in god try this... If god exists ask him to make a big yellow bird appear in front of you in 10 seconds. Pretty good test. Failed. Next.   [End]
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”When I was much younger, I was having a very tough time in my life, after talking with a christian friend, I decided that I would give christianity a try. I went home, I repented of everything I could think of that I may have done wrong, ” Holy shit that must have taken weeks. har har har. Ya that is pretty much what got me to give it all up along with that I realized it was fantasy invading my head.   [End]
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And again what this demonstrates very nicely is that there is no one truth. If anyone thinks there is then demonstrate it clearly beyond mere words. ;-)   [End]
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If a big jesus fell from the clouds I still would not accept it as some ultimate truth. There could be many explanations which could include new hologram tech driven by people who want others to believe in jesus or something related to jesus. There are many explanations for the same event.   [End]
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I would be in the ”underground” minority. In a sense I already am but in different terms.   [End]
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With these questions I would like to add one more that is kind of related. Should church and state be separate? Why?   [End]
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Reminds me of how the CIA craftily created the derogatory term ”conspiracy theory” to be used as a way to stop critical examination of government activity ore lest one be labeled a kook. It is also like how christians see and label most other belief systems as a cult yet ignore the same measuring stick on their own belief. I find these things are just more ways to redirect the flow of open exploration of belief systems and divert into weird and strange flows (walling off). How long now before the personal attacks? Grab your egg timer. ;-)   [End]
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Exclusivity within exclusivity. Chosen separation from infinite potential. Walling off reality to a very limited experience.   [End]
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”Who’s interpretation is correct? I don’t think any of them are.” At the end of the day it comes down to an individuated composite that one takes on as a belief system. In the case of christianity it is a belief system mostly borrowed from others and then, as we have witnessed, has variances depending on filters and other influences. Yes truth is liquid, evolves, flows depending on choices and agreements made. Together all choices made by all points of consciousness make up the grand ”truth.” This is a truth that has many vantage points and expressions because it all stems out of ...
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It comes down to this beyond all the maneuvering. You have not nor can prove that the biblical god exists beyond the story. As we go through the many contradictions found in the bible it becomes a very upstream battle to defend (it is part of the meme to defend it).   [End]
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I thought according to christians in this forum that god was ”all loving.” I’m confused.   [End]
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For a healthy society to function optimally and flourish it must allow freedom of choice for belief systems with one caveat. These beliefs must not impinge on another’s freedom. This is why true separation from church and state is necessary. I will defend your right to be a christian even though it is not a belief system I choose for myself (although I may perhaps share some of the tenants. Does this make me anti christian or pro freedom of choice? It may seem that I am anti christian by those who are christians and are sensitive from critically exploring their belief system, ho ...
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” This is obviously an opinion of the author, so pointing out that this is opinion is stating the obvious and unnecessary. It is an interesting opinion none the less.” It is obvious that the bible is the collection of opinions of authors as well but in this case, to some at least, it still needs pointing out....often.   [End]
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Can you find a quote from the same book that contradicts that?   [End]
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Perhaps you have some other ideas why the bible is full if discrepancies? I offered two explanations.   [End]
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”As far as the last sentence goes, any one that says that they alone offer the path to salvation, must be an anti-christ.” Wouldn;t that make ”jesus” the anti christ then? Or is he exempt and exclusive?   [End]
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Two main options... Either the bible was written by bumbling idiots or ...it was inspired by an idiot ”god.”   [End]
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It reminds me of this video..... [Video Embedded Here]   [End]
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”What happened next was that people responded to my response, rather than challenge my view they attacked me personally.” It’s just business as usual in fundyland.   [End]
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”...and have been complaining about every successive post by non-christians, have not even attempted to address the original post. The original post makes some pretty interesting claims, and I can only assume that because there has been no comment about the contents of the original post, by christians on the forum, that they must agree with what this post contains. Very telling.” And there you have it. ;-)   [End]
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The result of having your belief system fail a coherency test and then playing games in an attempt to diffuse the focus.   [End]
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More spin and lying fer jeezuz. ;-)   [End]
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Your effort failed. All aboard the fail boat.   [End]
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Lyin fer jessuz. ;-)   [End]
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The spinneth continueth.   [End]
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Spin. Up is down and down is up. Seems to go with the territory.   [End]
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The spin continues. Even with words like ”anti-christian.” This suggests that you don’t enjoy having your belief system challenged. I understand it must be uncomfortable to see the ongoing results of such incoherency come to light. Perhaps this feels like ridicule to you which is what happens when a person is very attached to a set of beliefs.   [End]
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It sure has and you do it continuously. Then spin it afterwords.   [End]
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Let me repeat again. When one reflects the piss back and one gets splashed, that is deflecting attacks.. The initial attacks are coming from several members of the christian tribe before they get mirrored back. Nice try on the spin.   [End]
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I enjoy your words and your energy. Keep posting. Laugh. God laughs and has a great humor. Especially when he is dressed up in drag. bazinga   [End]
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Freedom   [End]
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The book says what it says. Ignoring it then claiming that I lack potential doesn’t cover anything up no matter how much you wish it did. A sick god is displayed in the bible of porn. What we see in this forum is a lot of flailing trying to explain it away. The meme demonstration continues.   [End]
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It is no wonder that many psychologists think christianity is a meme of dysfunction. The clinic continues.   [End]
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Yes in this forum many christians engage in constant attacks then claim victim when anything gets directed back even in a humorous manner. All of it is a diversionary tactic to direct attention away from questions or subject matter that they cannot respond to in a logical fashion...so then the circus begins.   [End]
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I think I know what you are saying in essence. The outer reality is but an after glow of our thoughts. In other words we literally project reality from the code level of consciousness. When we get caught up on the outer illusion we create a distorted feedback loop. When we take our cues freely from within we can freely create without on the stage of light. We can shape our projections without the ”attachments.” This outer illusion can also be one of a personality we think is real when it is only a collection of conscious circuitry 9read filters). We can reshape these too without a ...
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This relates to infinite potential very well. From infinite potential we choose our scriipt and then our life experience unfolds. Once can choose to filter their life from a limited construct (cookie cutter) or take a wider approach. The metaphor is like shopping at a store that may have only 100 items vs one that has thousands. The store of infinite potential has infinite possiblilities unlike the limited store of christianity.   [End]
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Enter the ”faith” card. What you are saying is right on the mark. it will be interesting to see the answer.   [End]
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Looks like some countries Like The United States have taken that ”law” even further to protect themselves in ensuring a good flow of oil and revenues for shareholders of American companies like Haliburton. I can see how a notion like this can be perpetuated with a biblical ”god” character that murders children for ”his” kicks is obeyed as a cult leader. So many contradictions. At this rate the ”lamb will never lay down with the lion.”   [End]
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The polar opposites creates the space to explore between and we ride the multi parametric experience between it all.   [End]
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”Since 1963 when prayer was taken out of schools and government by this supposed seperation of religion and government America has not won any wars it has become involved in. Before 1963 America won the wars it became involved in.” I’ll let Gandhi speak to your sensibilities... ”I like your Christ. I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.” ---Gandhi--- ”There are many causes I would die for. There is not a single cause I would kill for.” ---Gandhi--- ”An eye for an eye will make the whole world blind.” ---Gandhi--- ”I consider western C ...
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Lost...lol. The irony. \ Anyway is from now on I will refer to winnie the pooh as Winnie The Pooh however ZI shall still maintain proper respect fro god and jsesus as such... god & jesus or even gawd and jeezus (variety is good) if the story book characters don;t like being refered to as such may they make my hands cramp up so I canannn nnnpooo llllonggerrr typp...arggg.   [End]
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