Agent H is pretty obvious. Even you see it. ;-)   [End]
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The H posse rides. The site disruption continues and the disinfo is foisted high by the support team. Keep on.   [End]
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My own personal attack troll. Running shotgun for agent H and crew? Continue.   [End]
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I think it is time for the Webmaster to act regarding this notorious forum owner. I would like to see a public comment regarding this matter which will do much to clear this up instead of allowing him to operate in the shadows and continue his spin like he is now. This is the work of an agent provocateur. No other way to say it. It is quite obvious to those who have seen this kind of pattern play out. The formula is give 80 % decent info (that doesn’t matter in the scheme of things) and then spin the key 20% to throw people off. Also create as much forum disruption in the process t ...
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Actually I post lots of relevant info in several forums, none of which you are presently able to understand in your ”physical reality” mode. But then spinning info in that mode is the game you are playing. Pied pipe of disinfo. ;-) I have followed all of your antics for a very long time. My analysis is....disinfo agent. ”Or is your life so empty that you feel the need to argue on everything, even when you don’t have a clue what the truth is, just so you can try to bring other people down in to your misery pit?” It is quite clear you are speaking about yourself in that diatri ...
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Yet the webmaster supports DQ and not you. Other intelligent posters are also seeing through your antics. Create diversions and stifle proper flow of info. Is that the game? Anyone who has been on this site for a while sees right through your game. Play on player.   [End]
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Blatant spin. But then you know that and hope it flies.   [End]
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Very late to the party. You may want to go back and look at the posting history of Grog, Chaz, Thorn, Ryan, etc(all the same entity who has been banned many times for attacking people) to get an idea who you are defending. Your borderline personality assessment is totally inaccurate.   [End]
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Where do you timers find the people?   [End]
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She may understand satire. This is what I tend to air in the face of the grumbling, mumbling, bumbling forum bully. But bully no likey. Bully attack, but when the wind blows back, bully play victim. Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh. Poooor bulllllly.   [End]
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”I see your use if the English language is still on the level of a ten year old ! ” Have you considered a community college? Just head a few hundred miles into the nearest city. You know, the place that lights up real pretty at night?   [End]
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”According to the new rules, from the WM himself, defending an attack, is as bad as making the attack in the first place.” Then we all better leave this forum. ;-) I haven;t seen this applied coherently though. The question remains. Did the WM remove DQ’s post under this ”new rule” or was it deleted by default due to forum software. It was my understanding that it was by default. Only one person can clear this up beyond all our conjecture. Oh webmasterrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.   [End]
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I haven’t seen the post so I can’t comment on it. I can attest though to your always attack first stance in the past through all of your incarnations. You went through a myriad of characters because each one would fall to the knife of the webmaster. Nice try on the spin though. BTW have you considered driving into the big city (the one with all the pretty lights) and enrolling in a community college so you can bring your level up a few notches? This is like debating with Java the Hut. Speaking of huts.... You gonna throw up some lights for Jesus this year? [Image Embedded Here]   [End]
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And the pot continues to call the kettle black. Your history here is years long under many attack dog names. Your pedigree is that of an angry drooling mutt with distemper. Continue barking. Although I do miss your donkey days. That was an interesting romp.   [End]
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Ryan seems to be beyond critique by the local PTB. But drama sells so....   [End]
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I think what DQ is saying is that the webmaster deleted HV’s attack and due to the mechanics of the software, his post was removed *also* as a result (default). I have noticed that the webmaster has taken an interest in some of HV’s work lately and has been making edits and removals.   [End]
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It’s obvious by your statement you are either very late to the party and have missed all of the history on this issue or you are flying an agenda in alignment with Ryan/Grog/Chaz (pick on of his ”incarnations”.) As far as ”attacking his credibility” there is no need to do this because he is able to do that all on his own.   [End]
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...ask for your own forum. Then you can post away and vote for yourself. You could call it Grog’s Esteem.   [End]
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Seeing as this is Broadway, what role will you be playing this evening? Chaz? Grog? Ryan? One of a myriad of past performances or perhaps a new character in the making for when the curtain falls? Encore.   [End]
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OUCH! That may require a new nano silver band aid. Now I need a nick name.   [End]
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yer postin caps for lol says alot about ya. I’d tell ya so, but wuln’t want ya to take orfence. Does that about have the shtick? ”Nancy: It is a politically incorrect reference to a being like a girl, not a macho type.” Now I see why you were ärgerlich. Some Nanciful factoids.... http://wiki.name.com/en/Nancy   [End]
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Nancy. lol   [End]
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Much of alternative medicine ”appears” to be loony to those who have not developed awareness within the paradigm. ;-) This extends to other subject matter as well.   [End]
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Wrong side of an issue?   [End]
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Forum Drama = revenue   [End]
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That is not an attack. That is an observation. If taken as an attack then that is a sensitivity issue in this case. I never made a personal attack. I am here. However what kind of behavior are you engaging in?   [End]
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You don’t make a very good slave nor are you in line with the status quo. I celebrate you. ;-)   [End]
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Drama/controversy = hits = revenue = wealthy Any questions?   [End]
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And we are referred to as the ones jumping on the moderator. Surreal. First we see an official ”I quit.” Then a resumption in the shadows flailing an agenda with no official ”I resume.” I sure hope the webmaster chimes in. This is a massive problem. George Bush could moderate better at this point. Reminds me of the kind of goofiness that goes on in some of the private forums here by private owners.   [End]
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This is a moderating disaster. Fail   [End]
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Yes it seems someone has let their shiny badge go to their head and allowed it to become an extension of a fractured ego, making up rules as they go to placate their inner demons. So instead of repairing the sickness that has been allowed to permeate the debate forums we just see a new disease added into the mix. Censorshipism. By their fruits....   [End]
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Being dealt with. ;-)   [End]
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I am sure the moderator will sort this out and explain what constitutes personal attacks for those who may still seem unaware as to what they look like. Perhaps this has been part of the problem all along. Oh moderator. Where art though moderator? We need an explanation on aisle 3.   [End]
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When you awaken notice the time stamp on your warnings and then notice the time stamp on the above post. Please sort this out so those of us that want to share information without this kind of insulting going on can do so in a forum or forums that support open flowing information and sharing and examination. It seems your presence is being blatantly ignored. I think you will soon see what has been going on here and what many forum members have been dealing with all along. Just read above. Thanks. Edit* I came back to copy and paste this in case it gets changed.. ”You’re being so ...
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Explain this to Grog and watch this forum transform.   [End]
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What you refuse to get is that you have bashed every person here repeatedly and have no desire to curb your attitude about it even though it is in direct opposition of the site TOS. Everyone here (except your son) and Moreless’s right hand, is calling you on it. As we do you then go into victim mode. It is like a kid who slaps another kid repeatedly. The kid then stands up to the bully and lets him have it. Then the bully runs around saying see, see they are picking on me that is why I must do this. Very strange logic matched with even stranger behavior. And you admitted ...
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You may be onto something there. ;-)   [End]
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Again you didn’t read. Hut then you seem to have an agenda that is quite obvious.   [End]
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I deflect insults back when they come my way. Take another look at my history. ;-)   [End]
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What you are clearly saying then (AustinM which has a similar look to JustinL..must be a coincidence)is that you think that personal assaults should be part of the forum rules. Perhaps you should lobby the webmaster to get that changed. As of now this style breaks TOS.   [End]
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Nope not at all. I am just calling for civility in your posting style. I fear no info. But for the sake of other sensitive posters who are not sharing because of all the unnecessary barking, there needs to be a balance on how the info is shared. The TOS clearly defines the rules of engagement which you are not following at all, ever. So your cry of censorship is not valid at all. Is it necessary for you to insult people every single post. Is that what you call sharing info?   [End]
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The only thing is.. We either have TOS and actually utilize them or create a free for all (which is what is going on now). If we have an even playing field I will venture a pretty good guess that the quality of posts and posters will rise dramatically. For instance. In improve, it is important not to block the flow so that the players keep reaching deeper and deeper aspects of their creativity. It is a similar thing when sharing any info. When the flow gets blocked it derails the process.   [End]
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There is a huge difference between ”attacking” information presented vs attacking personal members. This is the critical distinction that you are not making. If the webmaster or any forum moderator wants to they will soon see what is going on here. It is pretty stark and obvious. Just look at the last 3 pages in the abortion forum or the christianity forum. Also check the ip and compare it to Grog, Chaz, etc.   [End]
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I am not much of a censorship person. However in this case. You continue to disrupt the flow of interesting discussions over and over like it is your agenda. All you would have to do is stick with the information without always attacking people. You may have noticed that some have started attacking back. But in each and every case you start the attacks. So yes some moderation would be nice. Also look into this Ryan’s IP. I am pretty sure it is Grog/Chaz/and a raft of other names this person has used and been banned with each and every time. Enough is enough. No ”Rya ...
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When overused, like anything else, they become a major diversion. But when they are your livelihood, then often anything goes, along with integrity out the window. According to disinfo guy, oxygen doesn’t effect cancer, soy good, genetically modified ain’t too bad, etc. hand pick scientific articles to back up the disinfo and viola... Infiltration complete and confusion and disruption set in motion. Have a posse to help run interference. Agent Provocateur 101.   [End]
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A megalomaniac with one of these.... [Image Embedded Here]   [End]
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Are you suggesting to become the change one wants to see in the world? Revolutionary.   [End]
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”By the way as I pointed out you were banned because you kept acting like a jerk as you are doing now...” Perhaps you could ban yourself then. Just to keep things fair and consistent. ”But hey, we all know you care less about the truth and your only interest is to pick fights to get your jollies.” Now walk to the closest mirror and tell yourself the very same thing. In fact, repeat it several times so it makes it past your megalomania filter.   [End]
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It’s hard to know anything for sure because we are making it up as we go along. ;-)   [End]
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I reside, barely, in the solar system clinging to a spinning orb and from space it appears like a dot in what we collectively call North America. I live in Dotland where connecting dots is a past time.   [End]
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Have awesome food that defines the pub. Create a difference in your market. See what all the others are doing and create a niche within your market. Super support that niche. When they zig...you zag.   [End]
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Good find on the poster. 15 bonus points. And.... A night with the princess. Looooo...get ready. Sprinkle some rose pedals too for that extra touch.   [End]
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I can only imagine how the term ”fetch” comes into play.   [End]
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Allies for a new frontier.   [End]
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Well meaning poking serves a valuable purpose. It stimulates people to make potentially knew choices unless of course they enjoy their current loop. What ever serves.   [End]
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”http://www.studiopress.com/demo/freelance.html” Then could you please come and sew my arm back on. I could really use it. ;-) But seriously you guys are showing in this little spin off thread here what the essence of healing is all about. Life is just one big informational cluster fux at all levels. We can shape that informational landscape in a disharmonious fashion or a harmonious one. I think it is obvious as to what may be preferred. Without contrast there would be no experience. You need polarity or there is no reference.   [End]
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Trouble is he goes to every other forum and has a pattern of starting debates and insulting posters. That disrupts the flow of support forums. Many people think it would be helpful for him to stay in his own forum. This has come up with other disruptive entities in the past. He thinks he has an exclusive brand on ”the truth” and this has become his fuel for the disruption in other forums. it would be different if only one or two people noticed this pattern but the notice is widespread.   [End]
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All bow to the holder of THE truth. Oh my. He just isn’t gettin’ it.   [End]
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Although watching the ”I know you are but what am I” antics is rather revealing. lol   [End]
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The pattern continues. I’ll let you stew in your ego a bit longer. Maybe if you don’t stimulate anymore attention you will return to your forum and lead your people.   [End]
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The thing is, and you identified it... The best course of action would be to nourish his own forum instead of venturing out all the time. People know where to find him when they want his opinion. By venturing out it is suggestive of other things beyond helping.   [End]
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”But you need to realize that curezone is a big tent with a lot of different approaches and views on health and treatments. And you need to have respect for that. ” Here’s hoping the advice is considered.   [End]
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If you’re interested you can look it up. Unlike you I am not a victim and do not need to continually prove my ”worth.” Like I said, concerning this thread, my exploration serves a purpose. A coherency check.   [End]
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So you’re using the victim thing as your stance? Poor little H must rise up against all the meanies and set everyone straight? Incredible spin doctoring but thanks for showing us the pattern. Bully. LOL What I am suggesting is that you can easily control the flow of your own site. You could have a ”no bully” zone. But of course as others are seeing your presence here is about site disruption. Nice 180 on the bully tag.   [End]
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Is the strategy to draw your boss out of the hot seat by bringing up ridiculous assertions while engaging in your usual character assassination antics? The question still remains unanswered so its time to bring in the clowns I see. What you are doing very nicely is proving the agenda to be correct for those who have been watching the patterns unfold over time. Keep up the ”good” work Hunter/Tomi.   [End]
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Don’t even get me started on his regular and highly suspect skewering of some of the greatest alternative health personas such as Gerson et al. By their fruits indeed. I have repeatedly asked why he continues to keep a presence here at curezone if he is so dismayed by the way the site is being run(allowed to run). No answer yet. The tell tale sign was that his recent thread (like many before it)got tossed over here in the trash can from the webmaster support forum. That is a clear indication of what the webmaster thinks of H’s ”concerns.” The webmaster is the only one who m ...
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You side slipped the question again. How many times have you done that now? Quite a few and counting. Again. (I’ll bold it for you) Why remain on a site where it does not meet your satisfaction and allows you to be a ”victim” as you so clearly put it? This makes your statement ”provocateur” Quite ironic. But then we both know this is about classic site disruption. I don’t think you have many fooled. Perhaps that is why these tactics become necessary.   [End]
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It’s a matter of perspective. My posts may be very helpful in serving as a coherency check. Again I will ask, and you can continue to ignore, why remain on a site where you are a victim (as you put it) and where the site owner refuses to take up your (lost)”cause.” Why? If it is such a thorn in your side, to remain a ”victim” here on curezone (as you put it) when all you have to do is create your own site seems quite odd.   [End]
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The ugliness continues. *sigh*   [End]
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Interesting side step. That confirms my suspicions. As far as ”evidence,” much of what you choose is mainstream science for hire. The soy issue is a massive case in point. Some other tell tales are how you go after some icons in the alternative healing arts. People that have had massive success. Anyway the main point that you are not addressing is... Why be on a site where the owner isn’t jumping at your every whim? This time address the question.   [End]
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You missed the most important part. The webmaster is not addressing your ”claims.” Why do you suppose that is? Why remain on a site where your ”extreme value” is not seen by the owner? Why continue to piss into the wind? I hope someone has the time to dig up your conflicts with people where you personally attack them. It is way more than three.   [End]
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”t is so ironic that your post is loaded with personal attacks against me just like DQs posts.” Then...without a gap.... ” I guess monkey see monkey do.” That is all.   [End]
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”while re-victimizing the real victim, which is me.” Ahhhhh the victim card. Was wondering when that would get played. The disruption continues as your methods fall on deaf ears. This is the most dramatic demonstration of megalomania I think I have ever witnessed on line. But then I think it is a feigned stance to create a sustained diversion. By their fruits...   [End]
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Like I said before. No one has you bound to this place. If in your mind it is so terribly run, then you can exercise your options. Having your own site isn’t rocket science, especially for someone who is ”so great” by their own standards.   [End]
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” Pretty good advice. So of course the bold text begs the question. Agenda?   [End]
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”Why do you think I posted about DQ’s abusive actions on the Webmaster forum? As for the rest of your post why are you not making these suggestions to DQ since HE is the one that started the insults then hid my response because it showed a contradiction in his claims? Ironic how the Trash Can Clique is all here supporting DQ’s trashy actions.” Actually the real irony is something else which I will get to, but first... Here’s the thing. You have had problems with so many people on this site and have complained over and over in the Webmaster forum about each and every one of the ...
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