Think on this one, will ya please :) Re: I thought...

>>>I would think one needs to flush out the "excess" or "man made" bromines and fluorides some how and get the body functioning as it is supposed to with the iodine.

How can one do that when drinking bromine\fluoride chasers all day long?<<<

Absolutely!! And don't forget the chlorine the soda (sigh)

Here's what I'd like ya to "think on"...

As I understand the mechanism of chloride and bromine in the blood, tne chloride increases renal clearance (as in the person in this report)...but I don't understand exactly how.
http://www.optimox.com/pics/Iodine/IOD-11/IOD_11.htm


100-ish mg bromine in the urine one day...add the 10 grans if sodium chloride - over 600 mg avg of bromine in the urine the next week

Also of note, this person exhibited GREATER symptoms/side effects of bromine in the blood AFTER she started the 10 grams of sodium chloride. This is something I've been concerned/confused about since I read it back in February.

(from the above link)
Orthoiodosupplementation induced and increased mobilization of bromine from storage sites with increased urinary excretion of bromide (4,6,12). The halide bromide was measured in the serum and urine samples of the second loading test. Bromide levels were markedly elevated in the 24 hr urine collections, at 192 mg/24 hr, compared to 3-12 mg/24 hr reported in normal subjects (8,9). Serum bromide levels were markedly elevated with a baseline of 141 mg/L, with post-iodine load values as high as 202 mg/L (Fig. 3). The renal clearance of bromide in adult subjects not ingesting large amount of chloride is around 1 L/24 hr. Therefore, the 24 hr urine bromide levels at steady state conditions should be equal to the amount of bromide in one liter of serum. The levels of bromide in serum and urine were some 20 times higher than expected in normal subjects. Since chloride increases renal clearance of bromide (10,11), she was placed on sodium chloride (Celtic Sea Salt ) at 10 gms per day for one week. After one day on chloride, urine bromide levels increased to 530 mg/24 hr and after the seventh day to 760 mg/24 hr. With a daily average excretion of 530 + 760 / 2 = 645 mg, she excreted 645 x 7 = 4515 mg of bromide during that week. Her serum bromide level after seven days on the chloride load decreased markedly to 43.2 mg/L, from a pre-chloride load of 141 mg/L. Since orthoiodosupplementation increases markedly urine excretion of bromide (4,6,12), it is likely that the patient's total body bromine content was much higher prior to starting the Iodine supplementation. This patient was not taking a bromide-containing medication. Her elevated serum and urine bromide levels are most likely from a dietary source.

AND...


Some patients require up to 2 years of orthoiodosupplementation to bring post loading urine bromide levels below 10 mg/24 hr, if chloride load is not included in the bromine detoxification program. Rapid mobilization of bromine from storage sites with orthoiodosupplementation combined with increased renal clearance of bromide with a chloride load often causes side effects. Increasing fluid intake and adding a complete nutritional program to orthoiodosupplementation minimizes these side effects. In this patient, rapid mobilization of bromine from storage sites with Iodine and increased excretion of bromide from chloride loading resulted in side effects of severe fatigue, facial and body acne, but urinary frequency improved significantly for the first time in 5 years. The patient was asked to score the effect of treatment modalities on her overall wellbeing, with a score of 1 being the worse and 10 being best. She gave a score of 3 while on Syntroid compared to a score of 5 following one year on orthoiodosupplementation at a daily average of 6.25 mg iodine; 3 months on Vitamin C at 3 gm/day; and 7 days on the chloride load.

So this...

"Rapid mobilization of bromine from storage sites with orthoiodosupplementation combined with increased renal clearance of bromide with a chloride load often causes side effects."

plus this...

"In this patient, rapid mobilization of bromine from storage sites with Iodine and increased excretion of bromide from chloride loading resulted in side effects of severe fatigue, facial and body acne,"

...equals WHAT? The chloride dislodges/mobilizes even MORE bromine than the iodine alone? Why would the salt INCREASE the side effects if it increass renal clearance? This inquiring mind wants to know BAD! :)

I know that sodium chloride IV's are the first course of ER treatment for bromine poisoning, and that the same is used for patients that have od'd on bromine-containing treatments/otc's....full dialysis works even better/faster.

What say ye? :)

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