Re: Here ya go...Re: really need the post with the vit C doctor who used 1,000mgs iodine .....for Unyquity

Great! 'Glad to be of help :)

>>>but do you have any others you want asked.<<<

HUGE lol...'got a few hours? :::grin:::

Actually, you have no idea how thrilled I am at even having the teensy-eeniest of chances to get some questions to Dr. Flechas. I have far more than I have time to type, and I get a lil' 'confuzzled' with the 'thought processes' of holistically minded MD's. It seems (like other MD's) they sometimes become so 'specialized' in their thinking (and practice) that it's tough to get through the "white jacket wall", if you know what I mean. I'm not criticizing Flechas (in ANY way), but not knowing him or ever meeting him kinda limits my ability to formulate questions in the way he'd be most likely to receive them. BUT, knowing that you DO know him and that you indicate he's willing to field questions and give explanations, here's what's been on my mind (and at the top of my 'question list'):

Based on the obese patient/female (Brownstein's, I believe, but it could have been Flechas') that was having bromine detox symptoms and had a urinary bromine output of around 100mg - then AFTER doing the 10 grams of salt, her uriniary output of bromine increased to 700 mg, then averaged out around 600mg (which is a LOT of bromine, considering that 4000mg is considered a lethal dose)...do they have any additional protocols, suggestions or supplements that assist the organs of elmination during this extremely heavy load of bromine displacement? I'm thinking 600-700mg of poison is WAY tough on the kidneys/liver for even one day, let alone weeks/months worth of time. It seems to me that there might be something an MD would suggest (that we wouldn't think of) that could give some assistance to the kidneys/liver in this regard. Personally, I'm finding coffee enemas give great relief (not that I'm suggesting that you ask about that), but my liver & kidneys are very tender on the days I 'iodine'. (I've settled in, for now, on a protocol of 25-50 mg daily for 3 days, then 3 days 'off'...taking salt ALL days, Iodine or not).
(Btw, if you aren't aware, coffee enemas WERE in the almighty Merck Manual -the MD's 'bible' for treatments- for cleansing and assisting the liver up until the late 1970's - the reference was removed for 'space consideration', NOT because they weren't effective or anyone could ever show they were harmful...what a shame).

I'm incredibly interested right now on how the atomic weights of the halogens comes into play here...'most of us have read that because Iodine has the larger atomic weight (hence being the 'lightest') that the heavier halogens (bromine, fluorine, chlorine) displace the Iodine and take up residence where the iodine should be...hence when we start supplementing iodine, the larger quantities of iodine displace the other halogens. But using the example (again) of the patient that was displacing 600-700 mg of bromine in a days time, the only way that theory makes sense is if she were taking FAR more than 600-700mg of iodine daily. Hence, my question is formed: I've been led to believe that equal amounts of iodine/other halogen results in the other halogen pushing out the iodine. Is this true? If it is true, then how can someone displace 600-700mg of bromine without ingesting more than 600-700mg of iodine? (See this for reference, if needed:
http://www.jcrows.com/iodine.html,
which contains the following explanation/table):

>>>>Now while the thyroid gland helpfully stores iodine from the blood passing through it every 17 minutes, the gland may also be made to lose that stored iodine if, for example, we take in drinking water to which chlorine is added, or use too much sodium chloride, whose common name is table salt . There is a well-known law of halogen displacement. The halogen group is made up as follows:
Relative
Halogen Atomic Weight
Fluorine 19.
Chlorine 35.5
Bromine 80.
Iodine 127.

The critical activity of any one of these four halogens is in inverse proportion to its atomic weight. This means that any one of the four can displace the element with a higher atomic weight, but cannot displace an element with a lower atomic weight. For example, fluorine can displace chlorine, bromine and iodine because fluorine has a lower atomic weight than the other three. Similarly, chlorine can displace bromine and iodine because they both have a higher atomic weight. Likewise, bromine can displace iodine from the body because iodine has a higher atomic weight. But a reverse order is not possible. A knowledge of this well-known chemical law brings us to a consideration of the addition of chlorine to our drinking water as a purifying agent. We secure a drinking water that is harmful to the body not because of its harmful germ content but because the chlorine content now causes the body to lose the much-needed iodine. <<<<<<

This also brings up the 'much debated/asked question'...if chloride displaces iodine, then why in the WORLD would one take 10 GRAMS of sodium chloride to assist in bromine detox? Logic would indicate that 10 grams of salt would push out ALL of the 50mg of iodine consumed daily PLUS any that had already been stored. Might this be because chlorINE is far more vastly different in the human body than chlorIDE? Hmmmm, this is something for which MANY of us would like to get a solid explanation (or at least an educated/logical opinion or theory :)


Assuming it's the chloride in the salt (sodium chloride) that assists in pushing the bromine from the blood, then would magnesium chloride and/or potassium chloride have the same effect? If so, what daily dosage of magnesium or potassium chloride would be recommended? (I feel this is important as SO many people are on salt-restricted diets).


I'm pretty sure it was in the Flechas audios that he spoke of iodine displacing fluoride (although it could have been Blaylock...he hit the fluoride issue hard).
My question in that regard is: for those people that have the potential of releasing large amounts of bromine AND fluoride (for example, all benzodiazepines contain bromine or fluoride, many Rx pharmaceuticals are fluoridated, anti-depressants -Prozac, Paxil- to name a couple, and possibly Ritalin is fluoridated as well)...any many people (myself included)have taken fluoridated anti-depressants for DECADES, so our stores must be HUGE.

Is there a 'protocol' for assisting our bodies to remove serum fluorine/ide similar to the salt protocol for bromine/ide? How many milligrams of fluoride might we be looking at here? What damage (if any) might be incurred by large levels of fluoride floating throughout our bodies/blood?

It would seem to me, that when various toxic halogen and/or heavy metals are released from the tissues, that they go directly into the bloodstream...hence the liver/kidneys/skin become the primary organs of elimination (and the one that need the most cleansing & support). However I have read anecdotal stories that claim heavy metals are excreted via the digestive tract??? That would mean that heavy metals floating throughout the bloodstream would have to somehow 'magically' enter the digestive tract. (????) Hence the question: are heavy metals (or ANY toxins that have been released from the fat/tissues by the iodine) capable of leaving the body in any way but the urine and/or skin? If they CAN be released via the digestive tract/colon, then how in the world to they get INTO the digestive tract.

This one is very important to me--->>> Regarding the "companion" nutrients (especially magnesium & selenium). Does ingesting iodine CREATE a larger need for these substances? Does ingesting iodine somehow deplete our bodies of magnesium and/or selenium? OR are they suggested for general purposes because all of us tend to low in magnesium and those with thyroid issues are almost always low in selenium.

This one has recently 'cropped up': Iodine is an oxidant; Vitamin C is an anti-oxidant...might they 'cancel each other out' in some way or another? (Personally, I feel the body knows what to do with each of them and will utilize them properly & efficiently, but MANY people are asking this).

Which brings up the "timing" issue: Does it matter (and why) if one takes the Vitamin C before/with/after the Iodine, and why? Ditto the salt?


Whew, well now, that's QUITE a list...and I don't expect anything but that you give them consideration and discern whether or not they will fit into your list (or if they're 'worthy' of the esteemed doctors times...and yours!) 'Just having the chance to ask them is a miracle (as far as I'm concerned)....and you'll never know how much I appreciate the opportunity to have even the slightest of chances to have them presented to Dr. Flechas :) You ARE a goddess for even considering adding ANY of the above to your own list!

(Btw, your list is AWESOME...I'll especially be interested to understand more about the niacin :)

Blessings always,

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