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Re: Need info, pleeeeeeeease!!!


A family member of mine was diagnosed as "adult onset" / "age-related" Type II, so I can relate to your situation. Here are my observations.

There is a potential double-whammy effect in this. The first whammy is one people are by and large most familiar with since it involves going through the routine of diagnosis by orthodox medicine. This routine predictably results in a well-worn path of advice: take these particular drugs; restrict the diet in these particular ways. Meanwhile, industry continues to develop more newly advanced drugs as well as processed foods. These short lists are generally advised under the guise of treating the condition such that it will avoid the need to administer Insulin. As a general rule of thumb, when this disease reaches the point of going on regular self-administered Insulin, a milestone of sorts has been crossed that relatively few return from.

Since my family is like most others - well indoctrinated in the ways of orthodoxy, there is not much legitimate opportunity for me to suggest some alternative methods. What I mean by this is, I can generally get the words out, but these words are seldom taken into consideration due to the backlash of reaction they are generally recieved with. As such, I truly have been relegated to an observer. Here is what I've observed.

In retrospect, this family member first started showing symptoms of the present disease about 15 years ago, but, at that time, orthodoxy did not in anyway diagnose it as Type II related, they treated it as though it was a separate, isolated condition. Some of the symptoms: formation of tiny blood clots in the exterior limbs, such as the tips of fingers; general sense of weakness & loss of vigor compared to normal. The blood clots were treated via special "outpatient" clinics who administered "clot busting" drugs. They went away. Next, orthodoxy did suggest radical changes to diet (elimination of all kinds of relatively common "normal" foods and food-stuffs covering various categories) that included the introduction of the obligatory "you must count your daily carbs and not exceed ______ per day", you must lose weight, and you must eliminate caffeinated beverages and you must give up the smokes. I'm not saying this constituted bad advice, I'm saying that it should not require a PHD in order for the soundness of this advice to make sense to the average person, or in other words, the above generic advice can pretty much apply to the full spectrum of modern diseases that orthodoxy is in charge beyond just Diabetes. In any case, the patient was able to do all the above - including the very difficult period of giving up cigs after 50-plus years. At best, this seemed to slow down the eventual onset of what has more recently (in the past 2 years) been diagnosed as Type II "adult onset". Guess what? Now that this more recent diagnosis has been made, there has been an entirely new but different set of diet restrictions, for which Carb Counting is no longer part of the routine. Many natural sources of Sugar (fruits, juices, etc) are now eliminated, but many store-bought juices are approved. Note: most store-bought juices do not contain any actual & genuine juice. There has also been a serious reduction of starch intake. Despite this, thrice-daily doses of Insulin were introduced about a year ago. The bottom line of my observations is, the patient is still alive, is ambulatory (on most days) but they are no longer thriving. Due to their many years of conditioning, they are occasionally depressed from the feelings that are probably natural to come from feeling deprived IE> " I can't eat this", I can't eat that", I can't drink those" the way I had for so many years prior.

The second whammy, in my opinion, is this. Type II Diabetes is the result of the Pancreas having worn down from a lifetime of constantly being in the process of trying to recover from what the average American generally know as "eating"; which is to say, eating in excess all manner of "food stuffs" that, on the one hand may satisfy a person and make their tastebudds happy, but on the other hand is in large part made up of a diet that by and large is short on basic nutrition and heavy on dead, junk food. Try taking a person such as described above, one who's already been through the revolving door of diet-restriction-du-jour, and get them to appreciate that there is a good chance they can recover their health IF they are willing to change their diet to only include the essentials: fruits, vegetables, nuts and mineral supplements as necessary. I do not personally know anyone who has recovered from Type II (IE> gotten off Insulin and all other meds) after having altered their diet to be more in harmony with natural nutrition. I have read about them. The stories are pretty dramatic, but on the overall, they are also somewhat rare. In my family, most of us acknowledge that we live to eat, not eat to live. This kind of conditioning is so entrenched that, in the present case it is probably better to just stick with orthodoxy a little while longer, because "it" will likely all be over in just a little while longer. To do it the right way would pretty much be completely opposite to the way we've been conditioned. Aside from just the parts of this conditioning that comes from family traditions, there is always the TV, and Media, and Newspapers, and "expert opinions" and friends that will unwittingly be trying to keep our conditioning on track in the rare event we have some success escaping just the family dynamics aspect of the situation. (I'd type in the winking smile at this point, but as funny as this may be, it's funny in a sad-but-true way). In the back of my mind, of course, I'm thinking that the present case is what my near future may look like in another 10-20 years.... if I stay on the same basic present track that lead to the present case.

Best of luck with yours!

 

 
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