We, that is Lapis,Blueduck, Wrenn and I have tried to explain our reasoning behind our protest to the placement of this forum and have been met with condescending attitudes and name calling! I personally don;t understand the importance to you of the placement and why you take it so personally unless you have an agenda or you are promoting someone or something! So why don't you come clean and explain the reason you take this so personally and why it matters to you so much about the success of this particular forum? Grog