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Re: RE PRE MARITAL SEX..What a nice response!
 
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Re: RE PRE MARITAL SEX..What a nice response!


What a nice note!!!

And thank you for such a well written, well intentioned response.

Frankly, I had my fingers crossed, for to expose oneself as an idealist...if that is actually the definition to which I would agree...on ANY forum, is to invite the sticks and stones of those who , sadly, lack the background to respond with interest or even opposition,nor written in a manner that one can actually find common word definitions, and continue the discussion.

Such is the case on internet forums, except for my six year hangout on a Survival forum, which encompasses the whole range of discussions, but we long ago kept infiltrators from muddying the water with flaming or bad language, and the like.

The net result is to have friends from all over the country...in this case.....who are as close as though they were next door, and had spent time from childhood with me.

Let me delve a little deeper into what I meant to say, for I can see where you are headed, and could easily follow that line with you.

What I truly feel, way way down inside, is a sadness that such as I describe is denied to most people, including me.

But there was a time when it was not so, and I find the distinction is in the way that women and men are brought up today...no, for the most part just gradually "age their way up" from childhood.

I harken back to the time when a strong father image gave the daughters the security that their soul needs in order that they not develop a negative self worth, and a son had a real man to look up to and learn from.

However, REAL man must be defined, and I skittered over that, since my post was three times that long and I spent untold hours to get it down to it's length.

Modern communication is lacking in almost all areas of life, because modern education is not education as much as it is indoctrination , with the SPIRT of each subject left out of the teaching, and mere rote being the replacement, hence kids are NOT taught to reason, to think logically, or to understand that they have responsibilities as well as pleasures.

Some do, of course, and I know a few.

Mostly, those are home schooled

Anyway, a REAL man accepts his calling in life, which is to be a protector of womanhood, a civilizing factor in a world of evil doers, a kind and gentle teacher of his children, and an utterly ruthless to the max punisher of those who do not obey the basic laws of civilized behavior.

This type of man understands fully that a woman is an equal in all things spiritual, and is in charge of those areas that are basic to her TRUE nature.

He also knows that a woman who is loved in this manner, is the most powerful friend, lover, mother and all around companion that he could ever hope for.

A woman responds to total love without guile or agenda in a most remarkable way, and knows her freedom, knows her responsibilities, and revels in being a woman, for the extra burdens that women bear...and any decent man knows this is true...is greatly outweighed by her utterly astounding capacity for sexual pleasure, far greater than any man who ever lived, bar none, for indeed her very equipment for that has been given far more areas of pleasure than a man, and intense sexual pleasure keeps a woman healthy and vigorous, and was a part "of the deal".

But again, those FEW days in all history are, for the most part, gone, and we are left to try to develop a neurotic relationship that is as minimal as is possible, since few of us are brought up with overall maturity and understanding.

Yes, I do believe that, given all of the above teaching from infancy, that a man and woman can become great friends, can find love without sex, just as my generation did...OK, almost and can build an intellectual relationship with honest communication, so that when they finally make a mature decision to marry, the sexual aspect will be treated exactly as the rest of their relationship........with patience, time, practice, and TOTAL HONESTY IN COMMUNICATION.

When this is done, and marriage is considered to be for a lifetime, the "easy outs" of today would not be available, and furthermore, the rest of the family used to be approached for advice, should communications break down momentarily.

As to the possible huge difference in sexual desire, I believe that would have been long obvious from the earliest times, and a parting would have been made before marriage.

Again, that takes a pretty mature mind.

Instead, we have situations like me.....raised to be nice, to be mannerly, to respect and protect women...ALL women, for "it's a man's job to do so", my Dad taught me.

And I did just that, rescuing a woman a time or two from a tight situation in which she found herself.

I also treated overseas whores with the same courtesy, not that I was a "user" of such, but when I looked for a couple of buddies whom I often carried back from their excess drinking...(I did not drink, nor do I now), I would find myself in bar/whorehouses, much to my initial surprise and embarrassment.

Yet I treated those women with utter respect, giving up my chair for them, standing when they approached, etc.

One girl in France cried over that, for she had never been treated with kindness.....especially since she gave nothing for it.

Once, while on R and R from the war I went to a Taxi Dance place in Japan.........a looooong time ago, and watched as this one very attractive woman was pawed and teased, and people grabbed her butt, etc and I was ready to kill them all for disgracing manhood and the uniform of the USA, which I wore proudly and with distinction from age seventeen.

So I went to them and asked if they'd like their sister or mother to put up with that, and most of them were shamed, and of course two others were gonna beat the crap outa me for interfering.

Instead, I went to the management and bought all of her "tickets" for the evening, and we became friends. I also enlisted the help of our company weightlifter, who was also a nice kind of guy, and if any one approached Y, they had to deal with both of us.

This blossomed, for each night while on R and R I just paid for all of her tickets.......thinking that I may be killed the next time out anyway, and I wanted her to see what a kind and non agenda man was like.


(I had to delete a ton of extra info about Yoneko for space reasons , for love did blossom WITHOUT SEX , but from friendship, caring, talking, etc...There was much more.)

And a few weeks ago I found a letter from her now forty some years old. And seeing: Love, Y'o, brought a flood of memories and a few tears, for we genuinely cared for one another, but it was HER maturity about the mixed race thing that clinched it, tearful as though that was.

As you can see, I am a throw back to that Irish culture that kept civilization from going in the tank back in the middle ages, and fought every invader , along with the Scots, to keep freedom alive.

What DOES a nice guy do when there is zero sex for three years and six months?

Live with it, is the moral answer. I know that.

Books? Let me think about that ...

B
 

 
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