Thanks for the encouragement - but I don't think showing him the worms would help - he thinks me, and this forum are nuts! I asked him to get me some water at the store tonight and he turned on the tap. I told him no, that's toxic and he all but rolled his eyes at me! (Yes, he did buy the water, but he still thinks I'm nuts!). If the pain gets bad enough, as I think it is, he might consider something short term. So if you want to send me what you have, I would appreciate it! It's just that I don't have personal experience with this, so it's hard for me to help him (and sound like I know what I'm talking about!). Like I said, he did let me try a few things, but none really helped, so I might be even further behind than when I started. I am already starting to adopt a healthier eating plan (unknown to him) that should help a bit, but I think hitting this thing at the source is what's going to make him a believer and help him out the most. If you have anything, please send it. I'm willing to try to convince him of anything to try at this point. It's just so sad to see him in so much pain, and very little I can do about it.