Re: Suspicions about oxypowder

Here is a discussion I had with someone who knwos a lot about chemistry (he is a retired scientist, not sure which kind). After this discussin I decided not to take Oxypowder . You have to start at the bottom and read up:

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That makes sense to me. That could be what's going on.

Rich


>
>
> Hi Rich,
>
> I just wanted to clarify - part of the Liver Flush is taking Epsom Salts
> which has a laxative effect. This is similar to the effect I get when
> taking the Oxypowder . Since both the Liver Flush and Oxypowder cause
> me to feel much more fatigued after eating fat, I suspect it is
> because the laxative action of these 2 things is causing me to lose
> bile salts.
>
> I do the Liver Flushes every 4-5 weeks.
>
> Susan
>

>
> Hi, Susan.
>
> I'm very happy to hear about your progress!
>
> I think you have the right understanding about the Oxypowder . If the
> cells are well protected by glutathione and other antioxidants, the
> Oxypowder might not hurt them, but if there is no congestion in the
> bowel, it probably isn't needed anyway.
>
> The fact that taking bile salts corrects the fatigue after eating fat
> suggests that perhaps the Liver Flushes depleted your supply of bile
> salts. I think that is possible, and I think that is a good reason
> not to overdo the flushes. Thanks for the information.
>
> Rich
>

>
> >
> >
> > HI Rich,
> >
> > I'm doing ok. I'm still managing to put in a full day, it's getting
> > easier actually. I still have days when I feel spacey and have yet
> not
> > to feel tired but I'm so much better than I was a few years ago and
> > I hope to continue to improve. I attribute my improvement to
> > improving
> my
> > digestion with digestive enzymes and the cleansing I've been doing.
> >
> > Thank you for the explanation. I have been taking this since Friday
> > night and am planning to do it for 1 week. I did produce a lot of
> > belching yesterday and on Saturday so I think I understand what that
> was
> > now. My understanding based on your explanation is that it would be
> > beneficial to take if there was much congestion in the bowels and
> > the product oxidized the congestion rather than oxidizing the cells,
> > but
> if
> > there was no congestion, it would be detrimental to the cells.
> >
> > I also wanted to point out that I got that terrible fatigue after
> eating
> > fat again on Saturday, the day after my first dose of Oxypowder (it
> > produces a lot of diarrhea). I then replenished my bile salts and
> now
> > I don't have that problem. So it seems it's not connected to the
> liver
> > flush but maybe to the Epsom Salts I take when doing the liver
> > flush. In any case, the bile salts seem to be what I need to get
> > around that. Just a little more interesting information for you.
> >
> > Susan
> >
>
> > Hi, Susan.
> >
> > I'm doing fine, thank you!
> >
> > It's good to hear from you again. How are you doing?
> >
> > The oxygen that is released from the reaction of magnesium peroxide
> and
> > water is in the atomic state, i.e. single atoms of neutral oxygen,
> also
> > known as monoatomic oxygen. This is a very reactive form of oxygen,
> the
> > same as is released from hydrogen peroxide. It is highly oxidizing,
> and
> > seeks to obtain electrons from whatever matter is available in its
> > environment. Organic matter in general will react with it,
> > producing carbon dioxide and water, among other things.
> >
> > This is a little like unclogging a plugged up sink in your home by
> > pouring an oxidizing agent such as bleach or hydrogen peroxide into
> it.
> > It will break down whatever organic matter is present.
> >
> > I would guess that some of the oxygen reacts to form carbon dioxide
> and
> > water, and some forms diatomic oxygen gas (O2). Some of these gases
> are
> > probably absorbed into the blood, and some probably produce flatus
> > or belching.
> >
> > I would guess that this product would kill anaerobic bacteria,
> > because it is highly oxidizing.
> >
> > If there is a state of oxidative stress in the intestinal cells,
> > this product might exacerbate it. I think it would be a good idea
> > to give the intestinal cells some glutathione a few hours before
> > using this,
> if
> > it is suspected that they are low in glutathione. That way, they
> > will be able to protect themselves when the conditions in the
> > intestinal lumen become more oxidizing.
> >
> > Rich
> >
> > In a message dated 6/1/2004 7:42:25 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> > sbulmer@sympatico.ca writes:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > HI Rich,
> > > How are you ?
> > >
> > > I have a chemistry question for you. A while ago, I wrote to you
> and
> > > asked you about magnesium oxide and what would happen if it were
> taken
> > > orally.
> > >
> > > There is another product called Oxypowder which is magnesium
> > peroxide.
> > > I know this relationship holds MgO2 + H2O R 1/2 O2 + Mg(OH)2; and
> > >
> > > MgO + H2O R Mg(OH)2.
> > >
> > >
> > > So, I know the Oxy-powder will breakdown to oxygen and magnesium
> > > hydroxide. I understand the magnesium hydroxide will cause
> > > diarrhea
> > due
> > > to osmosis. But what will the oxygen do in the gut. Their claim
> is
> > > that it will combine with hydrogen ions in the gut to form water and
> > > therefore clean the debris out of the gut. Is this possible ?
> Are
> > > there hydrogen ions floating around or would some other
> > molecule have
> > to
> > > be broken down to liberate some hydrogen ions to
> combine
> > > with the
> > > oxygen.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Susan" Tweet