I have to DITTO the "Bravo, John" - you made some excellent and salient points about taking personal responsibility for one's health. NOT doing cleanses or other procedures just to humor a friend or family member, BEING aware of what you are doing, following the whole process not just the parts you feel like doing.
I have had consistently excellent results with Dr.Clark's Liver Flush for the last 2 years. However, a friend tried it with bad results. He did not follow the whole plan, skipped the pre-requisites, only did part of the cleanse and quit partway through the night. As you can imagine, he was miserable and did not get any stones out. He refuses to try again, blaming the process instead of his own irresponsible approach.
We need to do what our bodies tell us to do - we have a wonderful intelligence to guide us, if we'll only listen ...
thanks for your insights, I'll be interested to read more (I'm new to the forum.)