The term is p*i*s*s and vinegar ! Listen I am so toxic after thirty years in the plumbing industry that if sucking blood helped I would do it! I get horrible die off and detox syndrome with everything I try ! I think the Vita C is the easiest I've tried if it causes a little insomnia thats nothing! I can deal with that , but I dont know if the rest of the world can! lol! Groginator!