Re: Do you believe your bible is 100% God breathed, inerrant and infallible?
we are provided what we need. i believe there are indications that what we have is sufficient. i dont trust luther any farther than i could throw him, but then he should have progressed by now, hopefully.
the word of god is self contained. thats why the book of enoch, for example, is not included in the 24 scrolls of the tanakh. it contains some truth but it also contains errors.
johns book of the revelation is the little scroll or little tanakh. and i repeat, paul and jesus both referenced the tanakh as the scriptures. this is why salvation is of the jews. they gave us the truth among all the other nations of antiquity who came close in their writings sometimes but did not get it right and thus fell away. john talks about the tanakh, the 24 elders, and the four living. living is translated beasts, but thats an incorrect interpretation. jesus said his words were living. so the gospels and especially the words of jesus are very important and god breathed for sure. by now tampered with no doubt, but what we need is there. pfft. people dont even use that. i think it was thomas jefferson who compiled a bible just of the worlds of jesus. thats an interesting concept.
i have to believe concerning the new testament that in the first 300 years of our lord, the finest and most reliable writings were compiled for us. were they understood? i do not think so. but they couldnt deny the words so they stand and were protected for us just as the tanakh was. like peter warned, the writings of paul have been grossly abused throughout the centuries. he even says in some of his letters that its just his opinion in some places and in others he is writing via the holy spirit and is even imitating christ so well that others could use him as an example. i think he was telling the truth in both cases.
the biggest problem with calling some writing god breathed is that what one thinks about it may not be. actually, never is until a person does their work to find out what it means. gods thoughts are not our thoughts. jesus builds his church on the rock of revelation from the father, not from the scripture alone. what good does any bible do someone who does not also seek understanding from the father? none, except to maybe improve what one reaps in this life or teach how to be more duplicitous. man loves to pretend to have the power of god. loves to wield the "words of god" as their own personal bulldogs to rend others in twain.
as for the 66 (nice devilish number), i like textus receptus. i trust god that it is what he wanted us to have in these last days. i find every book useful. there is still much i have not been able to go over as much and glean more understanding from. the song of solomon, for example. but i get the gist of it. more to the point, the bible has become a part of me and the father has explained much to me and i have no problem gleaning truth wherever i go and from any source i come across. i have many teachers and counsellors, including everyone here.
100% God breathed - close enough
inerrant - properly understood
infallible - it has never failed me yet
all encompassing - not by a long shot
John 20:30
And many other signs truly did Jesus in the presence of his disciples, which are not written in this book:
John 21:25
And there are also many other things which Jesus did, the which, if they should be written every one, I suppose that even the world itself could not contain the books that should be written. Amen.
2 Timothy 4:13
The cloke that I left at Troas with Carpus, when thou comest, bring with thee, and the books, but especially the parchments.
Revelation 5:8
And when he had taken the book, the four beasts and four and twenty elders fell down before the Lamb, having every one of them harps, and golden vials full of odours, which are the prayers of saints.
Psalm 25:4
Shew me thy ways, O Lord; teach me thy paths.
Psalm 128:1
[ Psalm 128 ] [ A Song of degrees. ] Blessed is every one that feareth the Lord; that walketh in his ways.
Isaiah 55:8
For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the Lord.
amen