Do u mean u have not tried parasite meds, lot of ppl on that forum use the animal meds from tractor supply, herbs are not working for u, most use ivermectin, fenbendazole, pyrantel, and albendazole which is large size of pin that they sell in drugstore, please read some of these posts, ppl have had success, see protocol by member, ICU also, its easier to post if u use the microphone on your phone keyboard and dictate your post when u are not feeling well, please respond.