Re: Post written by Rainy. Important Information.
@Loquat Reply to:
https://www.curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=2396182#i
Yes, I admit I lean towards the belief in a physical return of Christ and His 1000 year reign. I also lean towards two physical men, one being the false prophet and one being the antichrist of Revelation 13. Of course, these men will have satan and devils in them. I also believe that there are many now and in the past who have and have had the antichrist spirit, but there will be one man who satan himself will enter into, that will be the antichrist of Revelation 13. Also, there have been and still are many false prophets in the world. I have chosen to no longer debate end times. There are many different views. I don't have any faith that anyone has it all figured out correctly. I'm not 100 percent sure I am right anymore. I don't feel the Lord wants me to waste my time on it. It is especially foolish for me to teach/debate something that I am not sure of myself.
At the same time, people should not be totally ignorant of end times either and the different views. Yes, if I am right and the false prophet and the antichrist are real men they will deceive many. Chances are higher that people who are ignorant of these things will more likely be deceived and more likely take the mark.
I do believe in a physical catching away as described in Thessalonians. I guess you are calling this the rapture cult. I have no idea when this will happen. Post Trib makes the most sense to me, but I don't know. It could be mid. Pre Trib makes the least sense to me. I have no interest in arguing with anyone over it. I have never read the left behind books. I do not follow Hal Lindsay. I did read one of his books many years ago. I don't know what he is teaching today.
You said: "You claim you posted this link as a warning to believers who might otherwise be deceived by the false prophet and end up, almost inadvertantly it seems, losing their souls."
I didn't post Sundar with the idea that everyone should automatically believe what he is saying. This throws out your argument that I am like the story of the boy who cried wolf. I believe I even mentioned that people can come up with their own conclusions in the original post. This was not a dogmatic post where I was saying this is truth. As I've said before, I'm not even sure he is right. Jim Bakker even made it clear that he questioned that Sundar was right. What is wrong with making people aware of something that could possibly be true? Don't bad weather reports do the same? Can't a warning be given of something that may happen, even though we are not sure?
As far as my posting other warnings in the future, I don't plan on ever coming back after I close this account. I didn't plan on coming back after the last one. I just came back to try to clear up all the false accusations that was happening.
I'm getting the feeling that you do not believe in the gifts of the Spirit for today. Or, you believe they are a possibility, but because you prefer to err on the side of caution, you want nothing to do with them. I, on the other hand, believe in them. I prefer to seek God for truth rather than to be so afraid of making a mistake, that I throw out the real things of God because of fear. God gives us things to help us work and live for Him. We cannot be all that God wants us to be if we reject what He has for us. He has good reasons for these things, or He would not give them at all. Yes, there are false gifts and imposters. There are many false prophets. God has warned us of these things so we can be aware of them. God did not tell us in the Bible that because there are false prophets that we should run from all prophets. No, He told us to seek for discernment so that is what I do. Have I arrived at a perfect discernment level yet? No, but I will keep seeking Him for that because that is the biblical way. God does not want me to reject anything from Him that He is trying to give me.
As near as I can figure out you are calling all prophets of this day and age false prophets. Do you know of any true ones? I'm talking about Prophets, not biblical teachers who teach Bible prophecy.
You said: "... what will you do if this prophecy should fail?" I'm actually hoping it fails. I will rejoice if it fails.
You said: "And if they also fail to materialize, perhaps yet another one after that? Where does it end?"
I believe the false prophets will continue as long as God has His true prophets in the world. This statement by you convinces me that you do not believe God has His true prophets. Either that, or you want nothing to do with them even if God sent them. You shouldn't reject the things of God like that. In so doing, you are rejecting all He has for you. You are rejecting a portion of Him, one may say. You should seek discernment instead.
I posted the link for people to examine what was said and for people to use their own discernment, not mine. I'm still trying to discern this myself. Yes, as a warning of what could happen, but may not happen, was also my intent. I never cried wolf whether this turns out to be true or not!