Loquat: You are surely right vekky, but there's a huge difference between a creation that 'groans' under the weight of sin, decay and corruption, and the additional damage we inflict on it by our own activity.
Me: When I read that about the creation groaning, I guess I just think it's all summed up together, including all the additional damage we inflict. After all, none of it is taking God by surprise since He knows the end from the beginning. Now if I was an open theist, I'd live in terror!
It's just hard to watch, and live in it all, but like Romans says, it will be worth it.
Loquat: As a 'prophet', Michael Ruppert has a lot more credibility than Kat Kerr or her like will ever possess.
Me: I don't doubt it! But it is amazing the impact Kat and her like has still had, and is still having. Combined together, their impact is very strong. And the crazier their teachings and prophecies get, the more followers they have it seems.
I don't know much about Ruppert. Sounds like an interesting guy for sure!