Thank you for the insight. Curezone has diminished so much in thee past 2 years. Hv's information was so worth reading. I am sad that he was unable to see how the goading from others affected his credibility when he would retaliate as he did. Curezone is no longer the great site it used to be, as evidenced by how much less traffic there is, and how little the moderators interact any more. Too bad... once upon a time this was a good place to seek info.