I stick by the fact that we were born in a garden, and that if people had to personally raise, feed, slughter, butcher and store all their own meat, we'd see a few more people eating apples ; ) The bottom line is that the kingdom of heaven is not one of eating and drinking. It's like the folks who get all wrapped up in, "Was Christ black?" "No he had bronze skin!!" and then proceed to debate about the true color of bronze, where he was born, blah blah blah.