I too cannot say enough about Primal defense. I've seen some of the most amazing results with it. And trust me, between my wife, myself and four children, we get our guinea pig on a LOT!! I was telling benda the other day that I imagine that PD will be the only store bought supplement I ever buy again now that I know about barefoot. Try the primal, just make sure you get the pills and not the dirt unless you're brave ; )