I agree from experience that you have to follow the protocol to get good results. I don't do any of the apple juice prep because I don't have gallstones...in fact, I don't have a gallbladder. The flush still produces plenty of liver 'stones' for me. Whether or not they are actually stones that were in my liver, or formed outside of my liver, I don't really care. I know by the color that I am moving bile, and I feel great just a couple days afterwards and all the way up until the next flush.