Re: Fundamentalists are driving true Christians away from the church

Yes, 136970,

For 2000 years, "Christianity" has been a place for all who will simply ACCEPT and FOLLOW (follow protocol/procedure) without questioning what REALLY MAKES SENSE (and there has been NO REAL/actual CHANGE/advancement in understanding/belief, or behavior).

The "bible" (the word "bible" is not in scripture because it is not a divinely inspired word, it is MAN'S word). The "bible" is still CALLED the "word of God" even though it never lived/"dwelt" among humanity or hung on the cross.

Only the Gentiles that decided to be ordained to eternal life glorified the word of God.....

Acts 13:48
"And when the Gentiles heard this, they were glad and glorified the word of God; and as many as were ordained to eternal life believed".

John 1:14
"And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us".

Ephesians 1:13
"the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation" (also Colossians 1:5).

...if only we would "rightly handle" (use correctly) the word of truth, we would already be fully aware of all of the lies (perditious beliefs) that have been taught for centuries.

Paul spoke against "SECTAS PERDITIONIS" (sect of perdition/heresy). The modern secular church is the result/outcome of centuries of perdition (we are the SON OF perdition).

The reason that LAWLESSNESS remains a mystery is that we don't want to admit that WE are the "lawless" (God's will is that we live the LAW of liberty, yet we refuse His will....WE are the "lawless").

The sixth day creation (MAN) has enjoyed learning about the three manifestations/aspects of God (Father, Son, Spirit) in a way that glorifies ourselves (man should not be glorified, ONLY GOD).......WE are our own 666 stumbling block.


Revelation 13:18 "it is a HUMAN number" (it is not the number of a 7th day creation "living breathing, soul" as Adam before the fall).

We have nothing to fear from satan (IF God's Spirit is IN us)....

"and you know what is restraining him" (2 Thessalonians 2:6).

...."His spirit in the inner man" (Ephesians 3:16).

The "strong delusion" is not a future event (this is the age of ETERNITY...."eternity" contains no "future", only "time" has "future").

God spoke to Ezekiel about those of bogus faith. He was telling Ezekiel....LAY OFF, they're all mine....."I will answer them MYSELF"...

Ezekiel 14:4 "I the LORD will answer him myself".....(the reason for the "strong delusion").

The Lord is going to shake His church (the collection of all who claim Him as savior.....the "heaven") so that....

"what cannot be shaken may remain" (Hebrews 12:27).

You have the right idea.....the new generation of believers must be wiser (and God will use you to that end, there is no 'coincidence').

In the first century when God's truth was being taught, it did not just 'ruffle a couple of feathers'....

Acts 17:6
"turned the world upside down".

Very few students of the status quo (the 'booksters' of all that has always been taught) will leave their comfort zone (their empire of pride as "Great scholars' is their only "claim to fame'), but God plans on a NEW generation that doesn't look for "signs" (lack of true "faith")or aim for a "gate" (we are to journey/walk with Jesus on a "street")....

"Rise and go to the street called Straight" (Acts 9:11).

....the Jews were accustomed to having a "gate" in THEIR worship (so Jesus told them about the strait GATE).

Ezekiel 46:1
"Thus says the Lord GOD: The gate of the inner court that faces east shall be shut on the six working days; but on the sabbath day it shall be opened" (in the age of eternity, JESUS Himself is the ETERNAL SABBATH REST).

If you were a 'book hardened' believer, would you be willing and able to believe God's REAL TRUTH (the "depths of God", 1 Corinthians 2:10)?.

The following is only a small part of God's real truth.....

What I'm going to tell you is UNCOMMON KNOWLEDGE,.....(so don't think you can check with someone and they will agree, understand, or WANT to agree/understand,
just use your common sense to believe whatever makes sense to you).

In O.T. times, the Jews did not know that God had a son (their promised Messiah hadn't come yet and they also did not know it would be Jehovah's SON). For that
reason, the Jews only worshipped "Jehovah" (they also could not have ETERNAL "purification"/salvation).

The Jews were able to obtain only TEMPORARY "purification" for their violations of MOSAIC LAW (which was a combination of what Moses brought down from the mountain PLUS all the rules/ordinances that Moses invented) by performing rituals of animal sacrifices ("the blood of bulls and goats" was most common) and offerings to God, but these rituals had to be repeated every year on the day of atonement.

Ephesians 2:15 "by abolishing in his flesh the law of commandments and ordinances".

Now (in JESUS devotion), the law that "SONS" of "ABBA FATHER" will be judged under is the LIBERTY "law" (not earthly logical for LIBERTY to be LAW, is it?...but it is GODLY LOGICAL).

James 1:25 "PERFECT law".

James 2:12 "So speak and so act AS THOSE to be judged under the LAW OF LIBERTY".

Now (for us), JESUS is the FINAL and everlasting/ETERNAL sin sacrifice (we worship 'GOD ETERNAL', same God, different dispensation/covenant) and His "eternal Spirit" (same spirit, different dispensation/covenant).

Hebrews 9:14 "ETERNAL spirit......purify your conscience".

God sent Jesus in "the fulness of time" (the completion/end of "time", Ephesians 1:10). Jesus ended the age of time and started the age of ETERNITY (now God's purification is ETERNAL, not TEMPORARY).

http://www.blueletterbible.org/search/translationResults.cfm?Criteria=in+this...



God always had a "Spirit" ("Spirit of Holiness", Holy Spirit). Jesus is now the COMPLETION/ENTIRETY of God,....and so, you will see that 2 John 1:9 says that we now have "BOTH the Father and the SON" (God's Spirit is now all inclusive/integral and needs no separate
mention).

"does not abide in the doctrine of Christ does not have God; he who abides in the doctrine has both the Father and the Son" (2 John 1:9).

Our worship today is to 'GOD ETERNAL'. It is likely that no one understands this (or ever did), so if you expect someone to be able to agree with what I've written, you will not only be disappointed, but you will hear a lot of "Bu...Bu..but, I du know, it sounds crazy, it must mean something else" and "Forget about that nonsense, just keep "FOLLOWING" like a good puppet/soldier and bring us your money".

There are many things that were never understood by believers and scholars. TRUTH is useless to the modern day moneychangers (Judaizers), in fact, it is counterproductive to them because they just want us to be OBEDIENT TO 'THEM' and have us keep bringing them our money (we are not good stewarts unless we provide as best as God has enabled us for our marriage family/children....our FIRST and only REAL ministry).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incident_at_Antioch


Acts 11:26
"and in Antioch, the disciples were first called Christians".

Seventeen years after the crucifixion, the Jews that had come to Christ decided at the "Council of Jerusalem" to no longer be MEMBERS OF "THE WAY" (because they still wanted to follow MOSAIC LAW).

The Jewish/Hebrew believers who came to Jesus as the promised messiah in the O.T./Judaic scriptures also never understood that they must no longer have a "foundation of repentance".........(JESUS must now be our ONLY FOUNDATION).

Hebrews chapter 6 is explaining that the new teachings/principles about 'Jesus salvation' no longer require performing 'works of righteousness' in order to acheive cleanliness/"repentance" (spiritual purity) and that our ONLY FOUNDATION should be Christ Himself.......AND NEITHER should we have a simple "faith TOWARD God" (we should have a "FAITH FOR faith").....

Romans 1:17....."the righteousness of God is revealed through FAITH FOR FAITH".

Having a foundation other than CHRIST ONLY is "apostasy".....(having a foundation other than CHRIST ONLY makes it "impossible" to "restore" us to spiritual purity). ...."For God is not so unjust....".(Hebrews 6:10).

When someone first comes to Jesus, they are a "babe in Christ" (1 Corin. 3:1) and are TRAINED/taught/"fed" with "milk". They are trained to do works of righteousness (have a foundation of repentance), but they are not taught the need to "move on" to maturity in Christ so that they will have ONLY JESUS as THEIR FOUNDATION.

God always recognized that many believers today would make the mistake of not 'moving on' to a mature ("more excellent", 1 Corin.12:31) devotion, so He ensured that this important explanation was in scripture for us to read, but it does not mean that those who never learn to move on to a deeper devotion based on the love FOR GOD ("the GREATEST of these", 1 Corin. 13:13) will not be saved.....(for "GOD IS NOT SO UNJUST" Hebrews 6:10, saved through fire??).

God will not forget all of the "works" that the apostate believer did, nor will He overlook the love they showed 'to each other' FOR HIS SAKE (it's not about love for EACH OTHER, it's about having TRUE love FOR GOD HIMSELF').....we are only to have regard/love for others AS we also have regard/love for ourself (I don't go around kissing myself or showering myself with gifts, I'm sane and emotionally stable).

So do not make it impossible to be restored to spiritual purity by not moving on to a deeper and
truly PERSONAL relationship with Jesus. Learn of the "better things" that are part of salvation (Hebrews 6:10) and have a "faith for faith" (trust that God is a REWARDER, not a punisher', Hebrews 11:6).

1 Corinthians 3:2 "I fed you with milk, not solid food; for you were not ready for it; and even yet you are not ready".

Hebrews 5:14
"But solid food is for the mature, for those who have their faculties trained by practice to distinguish good from evil".

God had Pilate ask "What is truth?" (the OBJECTIVE truth about Jesus was declared by the state to be "INNOCENT", but He was sent to the cross because the people chose SUBJECTIVE TRUTH instead).

We no longer have mere EXISTENCE in TIME, we have "LIFE"....REAL LIFE....LIFE eternal.

John 14:6...."I am THE WAY..."........"the TRUTH"...."and THE LIFE".

What was said in scripture 2,000 years ago was said to people that were alive 2,000 years ago
(not all applies to us except the GOSPEL "doctrine of Christ", 2 John 1:9 and Hebrews 6:1).

All verses are from the RSV.

Luke 11:29
"This generation is an evil generation; it seeks a sign".

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