I'm stating what I believe to be true, which is what everyone in this discussion, and on this website does, including you in your post.
That's what debate is about, I'm sure you think you are right and I am wrong, just as I think you are wrong an I am right. It doesn't mean that either of us cannot learn, or respect the view of the other.
I have both learnt from your posts, and respect your view, and appreciate that you are polite and civil in your replies :)
I have enjoyed our discussion, and wish you all the best also.