How did I know grassman would be the one to reply. You're Hv's only male defender. All his other fans are lonely middle-aged women who fell hopelessly for his rugged good looks, long silky hair, piercing black eyes, and unparalleled herbal chemistry knowledge. When they join the debate, the drama gets really fun. You're just a predictable waste of time... always with the one-liners about how the 'zone' is going to hell. Next time, don't even bother.